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7:00 PM
lol
 
An example of an horrible question is this one.
 
> how i can make smtp server
lol you don't need to make an SMTP server to send an email.
 
— How can I make SMTP server? — With a lot of goat sacrifices.
You need some sort of SMTP server.
Somewhere.
 
That doesn't mean that you need to make one. :P
 
std::make_smtp_server()
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7:01 PM
Well, no. Nobody sane writes SMTP servers.
Just like nobody sane writes browsers.
 
Nobody sane writes software.
 
It's one of those areas that are so terribly fucked up that nobody should ever wander there.
@RMartinhoFernandes Python has smtpd in standard library.
 
Writing browsers is for pussies. Real men write a programmings!
 
a what?
 
A programming.
 
did you just edit in a typo? :p
 
On purpose; the linked-to website is also one big typo.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik This site is awful.
I mean, hell, unformatted code? What the hell.
 
@EtiennedeMartel All of Stack Exchange is.
 
well thanks, I'm gonna go and write a programmings right now
 
7:05 PM
"Awful" doesn't do justice.
SO questions are awful.
 
This, this transcends awfulness and invents entirely new scale.
 
WHAT. THE. SHIT.
> An introduction to C programming, What is C++ Programming
> C Plus plus is a programming language which is very popular. C programming has different kinds features which make it more easier and useful for programming. It is based on real world object which help to understand programming structure of C++. It is use for make different-different type of and application like window system software, Server-client application etc. It is also use in Hardware design software.
 
>Object Oriented Programming (OOPS)
OOPS. :)
 
that is horrendous
What. The. Actual. Fuck???
 
7:06 PM
It's like they wrote words on post-its, put those on a wall, and then threw darts at them.
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
Someone asked on Mumble where "a programming" came from that day.
 

Write a programming!

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7:08 PM
I'm laughing way too hard at that..
 
The Dictator say: "write a programming" or I shoot you!
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik Absolutely sublime.
 
It's like cplusplus.com rewritten by somebody from a country I shall not name, and then shat on by the web designer from GoDaddy.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That website's gotta be a joke.
> Programmingstutorial.com is a basic school of all online programming students. This latest programming site which is specially designed for the students those are in search of smart online education. The tutorial provides the latest programming techniques to the students to do the better then the best.
 
to do the better than the best :)
 
7:12 PM
The better then the best in English.
 
Funky stuff about the mess that is C: blog.regehr.org/archives/721
@RadekdaknokSlupik I'm pretty sure it's "than".
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik You fail.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik grammar fail
 
@EtiennedeMartel Read the quote again. >>
 
7:13 PM
I did that on purpose, fools.
 
melak47 was quoting the quote wrong.
 
No you didn't. We decided when you can whip out the sarcasm.
 
yeah, sorry radek :/
 
I'm writing JAVA. It's normal that my language is now fucked up.
 
7:15 PM
It's "Java". Not "JAVA". It's not an acronym.
 
like Lua
 
WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING?
 
7:16 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It's really JAVAL. Just A Very Asinine Language.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik No need to capitalize JAVA. It's not that important.
 
BECAUSE we can't hear otherwise
 
@FredOverflow I was a joke.
 
ToNy ThE lIoN
 
7:17 PM
Because System.out.println("JAVA");.
 
because FUCK JAVA
 
@EtiennedeMartel it's JAVA because I can't help but get angry when I have see it
 
@TonyTheLion No! You'll get all kinds of diseases that way.
 
JAVA and c.
Looks so fucking ugly when people do that.
 
What do you get when combine Jave and a Lion?
 
7:17 PM
So, should we call C male programmers "Sea men"?
 
Jalion
 
@TonyTheLion A sad lion.
2
 
an angry lion
 
@EtiennedeMartel GG
 
7:18 PM
GEEEEE GEEEEEEE
That's how you have to say it.
 
I did, out loud
 
Less QQ more pew pew.
 
by "pew pew" do you mean "SHA-2 cracking"?
 
Good Guy Greg to the rescue!
 
7:19 PM
Pew pew is good.
 
Actually...
 
If it's easier to use Java, writing it in C++ is silly.
 
Oh guise you MUST see this
Screw you :<
 
I'd probably go with
 
7:20 PM
Jump to 1:45 to see the cat fly
 
Yeah, we all did.
 
I MUST see it? Okay, I'll not watch it.
 
"Nothing is easier to write in Java, because if I didn't want to use C++ I'd use C#".
 
You are sooooo late.
 
Oh crap. How late?
 
7:21 PM
@DeadMG Java's only strength compared to C# is portability. But that's more because of the JVM than the language itself.
 
cat-ro-copter, seen it
 
So, yeah, the language sucks, the runtime is alright.
 
Time for awesome dinner!
 
C# is quite portable, too.
 
7:22 PM
@thecoshman Does it feature bacon?
@CatPlusPlus The CLR is not as supported as the JVM.
 
Mono even runs on silly mobile platforms.
 
Yeah, but the JVM runs on anything.
 
For specialised profiles you have to write specialised code, anyway.
 
So, if I needed portability, I would go with something like Clojure our Scala.
Probably Scala.
 
7:24 PM
Yeah, why damage your brain with Lisp.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'd say about half the C++ I've written was for platforms that never have and probably never will support a JVM.
 
@EtiennedeMartel My primary problem with that is that the JVM sucks donkey cock.
 
Catcopter. What an awesome world we live in.
 
Scala seems okay, if bit weird in places.
 
@DeadMG By your standards, the only thing that doesn't suck donkey cock is you.
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7:25 PM
the CLR is much better
 
And maybe the Queen.
 
actually, I significantly dislike the monarchy
 
hmm.. since I put it the second gpu, my sound card is not detected anymore....oops
 
I could have sworn.
 
because I'm awesome
@DeadMG not surprisingly, that comes out of your mouth
 
7:26 PM
Don't worry, I too, dislike the monarchy. Every time those pompous assholes come over here we have to foot the bill.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's even worse here.
 
of course my only usable plain old PCI slot is sandwiched right between the graphics cards...
 
@melak47 For, apparently, a rather loose definition of "usable."
 
I'll run out of tea before the night's over. Stupid exam.
 
7:28 PM
@TonyTheLion You would have prefered for the cocks to go in his mouth?
 
@JerryCoffin the others are obscured by the graphics cards :)
 
@CatPlusPlus Better ration it.
 
@CatPlusPlus Mountain Dew for the win.
 
I have my first exam in a week
then two more in that week
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol, then he'd get a reality of what sucking donkey cock is all about :P
 
7:32 PM
what, I'd gain a whole reality?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Mind linking me your 2darray implementation ?
 
Boost.MultiArray.
Or Eigen's Array, really.
 
@ScarletAmaranth This? ideone.com/gytw7
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't really need to use it, just wanted to see it :P
@RMartinhoFernandes Thanks
@CatPlusPlus When will you start talking to us kitty ? :P
 
7:37 PM
hey robot
 
I had a couple more ideas for pushing my SHA-2 solver forwards and I would appreciate your advice
 
@ScarletAmaranth There are those that can talk the talk, but they can't ... Oh wait.
 
I've been toying with my existing solver, and I've come across a bit of a problem- namely, not every 457-bit value is a possible input
 
7:38 PM
because of the length
it's impossible to have, say, 001, (skip 440odd bits), and 000 for length
 
so I've been thinking about building 447 trees which represent each possible length
I'm fairly certain that, even combined, they represent a smaller search space than the current tree
 
447
the total input length is 512 bits, -64 for length = 448, -1 because SHA-2 appends a 1 bit to the end of all messages
 
it was Xeo who had to program the "devils game" thing right?
 
7:42 PM
@StackedCrooked Have you realized that luffy and jimbei have been arguing 2 episodes instead of actually legging it to the palace :D ?
 
I was also thinking that it's kinda silly to build them for the first few, let's say, 80 lengths, because you can just bruteforce those
 
@Xeo: what was your algorithm for chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/3906819#3906819? Because I thought of some decent ones recently
 
and the main value is in the other lengths
 
@DeadMG So what advice were you looking for? Sounds like you have a decent plan laid out.
 
well, I was also thinking of simply attempting to correct for the length problem later
 
7:43 PM
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Q: Big text on left and chunk of text on right

SylarFirst of all, tex.stackexchange is not opening from here. (Down most likely), hence the post here as it related to programming. I was beating my head up with latex for this but couldn't come up with a properly formatted output. So basically, what I want is a large font text on the left (Compa...

 
like, arrive at a solution, oh it violates the length constraint, backtrack
but I think that might become NP-Complete
 
Closecloseclose.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Be sure to read the note at the end. That thing is nothing but a gag for my conscience.
 
Just for the "my question is so important you ought to answer it now, wherever you are" attitude.
 
I just created a VS10 project with three trailing spaces in the name. Will my computer explode?
 
7:45 PM
Yes.
 
@DeadMG That does sound likely.
 
no, but VS10 might spank you and attach jumper cables to your nipples, because it's into that sort of thing
 
It is? Gosh.
 
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Q: Deserializing a class defined in a plugin

IdovIn my process I load plugins from which I get objects I use in the rest of the process. This class inherits from MyInterface so serializing it is not a big deal. I just implement a virtual const unsigned char* Serialize() method in it. What I can't figure out is how I can deserialize it, since th...

^ Why typeclasses > interfaces. Hurr durr.
 
@CatPlusPlus Do typeclasses cross binary interfaces?
 
7:47 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah i know, i very rarely use 2dim + arrays, in which case i use boost. I just happen to like your code for some reason.
 
They can.
Most importantly, they allow overloading on return type.
 
@DeadMG Probably into latex too, in that case -- those of use who were just voting to close may want to avoid it for a few days.
 
Oh gawd. Brain bleach.
 
lol
 
What normal people do when they're bored: Play games, watch TV series.
What @MooingDuck does: Creating projects with trailing spaces.
Seems legit.
 
7:49 PM
@ScarletAmaranth I live to learn!
 
@MooingDuck ^^
 
@ScarletAmaranth I'm kinda sad, I'd really expected the explode comment to get at least one star
 
@EtiennedeMartel it did :p
awesome dinner was awesome!
 
Well, well.
 
Maybe everyone's out of stars by now, like sbi.
 
7:50 PM
We're all made of stars.
 
@MooingDuck I'll star you bro, you're NOT ALONE!
 
@CatPlusPlus I have stars, ergo, I people have stars to give me.
 
I only used three or so stars today.
 
any hoops
night all
 
@CatPlusPlus Not me -- I'm stingy with them. Or maybe just stingy, full stop.
 
7:51 PM
Well, you're a bee.
 
@thecoshman G'night.
 
Whatever.
Evil hellspawn.
 
@CatPlusPlus I keep forgetting that by the time I log in, it's like 4p or later for most of you.
 
7:52 PM
@thecoshman You're not allowed to leave before 3AM.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Reminds me that I still need to watch yesterday's episode.
 
@MooingDuck It's ~21:00 right now. 22:00 for the easterners.
 
You're still on that?
 
@CatPlusPlus No, not really. Got kicked out of hell for being too nasty.
 
7:53 PM
Oh yes I am.
 
@StackedCrooked I like how they broke the tension between those two with robin there though :P
 
@DeadMG Only real life can teach you that. And to do that, you must stand up, go out, and get shitfaced with cheap vodka.
 
germany is not that far east :P
 
@ScarletAmaranth Poor Sanji :p
 
I'd avoid cheap distilled alcohol. It might not be quite edible.
 
7:55 PM
@StackedCrooked I knew it wasn't gonna end up well for him as soon as I saw Robin approaching closer :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel Pretty sure that the cheap vodka has nothing to do with it :P
 
@melak47 I live on the westernmost part of Europe. Every other European is an easterner.
 
Unless you have a trusted source.
 
note to self
when already wearing your headphones, it is not necessary to find and attempt to put on an identical set of headphones
3
 
7:56 PM
Why do you write a note to yourself in here?
Oh.
 
Unless you want your headphones to wear headphones.
 
Meta headphones.
 
Metameta.
 
@StackedCrooked Zorro is a fairly likeable character ;) Although I'm more of a Nami fan
 
@ScarletAmaranth You mean you're a fan of her tits.
 
sbi
7:57 PM
@MooingDuck No, but your fellow-worker will, when they will have to deal with this.
 
Her constantly growing tits.
 
@ScarletAmaranth So basically you're a boob fan?
 
Not because of boobs :)
 
Whoever linked mil-millington.com earlier, you've ruined my productivity for the week,
 
I liked her background with "belemmele" or whatever her name was
(The oranges gal.)
 
7:58 PM
Bellemere.
 
Her boobs grow like a tsu*nami*..
 
Har har.
 
nami is a wave, right ?
 
Oh gawd a hentai talk.
 
tsu should be something like harbor
 
7:58 PM
Yep.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Hmm...did somebody re-classify Iceland as "not part of Europe" while I wasn't looking? Or is it just that there are no people there?
 
I think it was in the seventh film where her boobs never stop bouncing.
I mean, I understand the appeal of fanservice, but that's just going too far.
 
@StackedCrooked Also, I;m not sure whether it's a well known fact among OP fans but did you notice that character's appearances have a lot "in common" with their personalities ?
 
Nobody cares about Iceland.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Correct.
 
7:59 PM
@sbi I'm not at work today, yesterday was.... interesting. So I took a sick day.
 
"I'm sick of you people."
 
@StackedCrooked Yet I'm still struggling to find something in Zorro that would relate his character and his appearance.
 
Now, now.
 
Zorro is a different guy.
Lol.
 
@StackedCrooked Yet I'm still struggling to find something in Zorro that would relate his character and his appearance.
 
@ScarletAmaranth You mean you are looking for a link between zoro and zorro?
 
@StackedCrooked Nope, I'm looking for a link between how he behaves* and how he's drawn. Say Usop is a liar so he's got a long nose, etc.
 
I think Usopp is the only one where there is such a link.
 
Luffy's straw hat and his "chill personality" ?
 
8:06 PM
He's very serious about his hat though :)
 
Franky's hair and her cheerful mood ? (They actually elaborated on that in a few episodes :D)
 
Naturally there's a link between appearance and personality.
 
The episode with choppa giving different drinks to Franky made me burst in laughter.
 
In case of zoro you could say his appearance is a bit ascetic.
As a warrior.
 
Mhm, possibly.
 
8:09 PM
No fashionable clothes etc.
Lives for the sword alone.
 
What is with people and this insane fear of dependencies.
 
logic?
 
algebra?
 
I thought about just use boost for a really long time. And that was the way the project started. But later I found all the things I use are also available in c++11. So I think it would be good not to force a third party dependence if the user have a recent compiler. In fact, if I require boost then I need to require at least boost 1.49, which is the most recent release, and outdate most Linux distributions. Even the recent released fedora 17 only have boost 1.48. So by forcing boost I need the user to install boost themselves which not everyone want to, while libstdc++ come with gcc4.6 is ok — Yan Zhou 8 mins ago
Oh my, people would have to DO SOMETHING.
How could that be.
Also, using distros with outdated packages is fail.
 
If the user in question is not a dev then static linking comes to mind, too...
 
8:13 PM
Or maybe just dropping Boost into your project. 99% of it doesn't have to be compiled separately.
 
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Q: June 2012 Community Moderator Election

CommunityStack Overflow continues to grow... When the Fall 2011 Election began, there were 72K members eligible to vote; today, there are over 97K. One of the most direct indications of a need for more moderators is flags per day, which has increased from 890 to over 1300. So it's time to take the phon...

 
@CatPlusPlus You're still in college, right ? How are you school mates (un)familiar with pointers ?
 
Be your own Meta Police
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@ScarletAmaranth I don't know, we had only some MIPS assembly, most of it is Java.
Even embedded systems was entirely Java.
Only other deviation (apart from that MIPS assembly) was programming paradigms course, where we had OCaml and Oz.
I bet there's some people who might have used C or C++ at some point.
 
@CatPlusPlus So they will leave college without ever even encountering the concept ?
 
8:17 PM
@Shog9 yay policing shit
 
Possibly.
 
nice ...
 
I think we should try to put one of our own in power.
 
@DeadMG You running for the office again?
I'll vote on you!
 
I think @sbi would make a great moderator. Har har.
 
8:18 PM
Don't count on me.
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't even recall why I did last time, and I have little intention of doing so again
 
I reckon sbi would rather stab himself in an eye with a fork but that's just what I think.
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More crappy work with crappy questions, no thanks.
 
Not just crappy questions. Also crappy crabby users.
 
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Q: Java Classes and C++ Classes

Ofek RonIm new to C++, and am familiar with Java, the first thing i was wondering about when i started looking at C++ codes is that Classes dont have privilage difiners such private, protected and public. Exemples: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/classes http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/cl...

lol
 
8:21 PM
Enthusiasm level: Shog9 :)
 
Let's start a bet pool: will genesis try again?
 
"all these crap rappers, they're rapping like crabs"
@CatPlusPlus Probably not.
 
> when i started looking at C++ codes is that Classes dont have privilage difiners
@RadekdaknokSlupik lol
 
sbi
Nov 12 '11 at 14:20, by sbi
@Als No, I would be a bad moderator. I have explained that during the last election already. (@RMartinho? Now where's that robot when you need him? Probably plotting the destruction of humanity again...)
Jan 19 '11 at 9:42, by sbi
Come to think of it, I wouldn't want to vote for any moderator who put himself up as a candidate. :) (And in best Groucho Marx tradition, I wouldn't want to moderate for a crowd that elected me as a moderator.)
 
@JerryCoffin Ok, I forgot to sleep some "mainland" in there. You're right, Icelanders are not easterners. They're northerners.
 
8:28 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm neither a mainlander nor a northerner
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm glad you were careful to make that plural -- if you hadn't, the other one would have gotten upset.
 
@DeadMG Yes, you are a northerner. You live north of me.
I'm the center, remember?
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik That is a very poorly worded question. It's a good thought, but the wording is... highly misleading
 
Damn, now I have Let it be stuck in my head.
 
8:29 PM
Oh gawd I slipped "sleep" instead of "slip". Brb, slashing my wrists.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I don't think so at all.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Emo Martinho.
(Rolls right off the tongue)
 
Y TV NO air things so that the new seasons start airing when the old ones are actually over?
always irritating dead spaces
 
I haven't been on reddit for a while.
I log in and lo and behold, I've been given mod rights to /r/goblincamp a month ago.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Hmm...and what came out? A bit of hydraulic fluid?
 
sbi
8:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Just let it be and it will pass.
 
Robots run on booze, silly.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I edited question heavily, asking for reopen votes.
 
Someone's bored.
 
@sbi Actually, it's been stuck in my head since that argument with The Trollinator this morning.
 
sbi
@ScarletAmaranth I, however, think that I would neither want to be a moderator nor would I want to stab myself into an eye with a fork.
 
8:37 PM
@sbi Mhm, I've always though you're the fork type.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel This Too Shall Pass.
 
holy tits
 
@sbi that wasn't one of the options
 
sbi
@DeadMG Got a new religion?
 
am I the only person who thinks that example code should be of exemplifying quality?
 
8:38 PM
@sbi that's an old one
 
why is it that people shit all over their examples because they're showing other people how to do shit? If you're trying to help someone else, that's even more of a reason to get it all right.
 
I think example code should be a stinking mess that no one wants to try understanding.
 
sbi
@MooingDuck "That's a good one." FTFY.
@MooingDuck Why should I limit myself to the options others dream up for me?
@DeadMG No, we're two. I had been banging my head against this many time when I still answered questions on SO.
 
sbi
8:40 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Aren't you working for a game company? See.
 
@DeadMG No, but I do think sometimes people go overboard on trying to deal with every sort of completely unrelated hint of a possibility that (for example) in demonstrating undefined behavior from XYZ, you really should have been more careful to not include any extra headers (etc.)
 
@sbi How did you know?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel "code should be a stinking mess that no one wants to try understanding"
 
@JerryCoffin Eh. I'm all for "Implementation left to reader" kind of thing for details, but I'm not for actively showing terrible practices like raw new and delete.
@sbi Seems like I hand out more downvotes for terrible examples than I give out for good answers.
 
@DeadMG I definitely do
 
sbi
8:42 PM
@DeadMG I handed out snarky comments. And sometimes explanations why I think it's bad. And, yeah, of course, downvotes.
DOWNVOTE ALL THE BAD EXAMPLES!
 
@sbi Well, if you want to keep your job, you have to make sure you're the only one who can maintain your code.
 
oh my god
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A: beginner and cpp class

STATUS_ACCESS_DENIEDHow about this then? int main () { CRectangle rect (3,4); // on stack cout << "rect area: " << rect.area() << endl; return 0; } or if you must have prect: int main () { CRectangle rect (3,4); // still on stack CRectangle * prect = &rect; // simple alias ...

look at the edit history
I wish I could downvote again.
 
Oh hey, hungarian notation!
Fuck that guy.
 
Fuck him like a Hungarian.
STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED is an appropriate username though.
 
@DeadMG: because it makes it less readable. But I hope my edit suits you better though introducing too many concepts at once isn't exactly helpful ... — STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED 2 mins ago
Ahahaha.
 
8:45 PM
meh, shitty code
 
template<typename T> meh(T);
I invented my own syntax.
NO return type required.
Because meh.
 
it returns meh in all cases
cause it's meh
 
@MooingDuck I also fixed some spelling and grammatical mistakes. It's a pretty good question, in fact.
 
Meh ...
 
we should start gang downvoting and deleting answers which show manual memory management
 
8:54 PM
@DeadMG I usually just comment, and if they comment saying no, then I downvote.
 
@DeadMG Hmm...I might have to post a few, just to give you some practice.
 
> Provides access to users stored in the database, and maps them to {@link com.daknok.hexapoda.core.model.User} objects.
Oh I love packages/namespaces.
Why's it so quiet, by the way? Is everybody playing scary video games?
 

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