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4:00 PM
What does flagging it do, turn it plaid?
 
I have no idea, I can't click it.
 
@sehe Can't flag it from there.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You can just flag it like it is with me. BTW,
What'd you enter?
 
4:03 PM
Should I flag it? Opera just shows it
RTLO unicode hole
 
Holes are pretty offensive
 
@Pubby Depends on the type. The facial orifice is featured in many a gravatar
 
@Pubby Especially if there's a donkey before them.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes how do you prefer to enter them UNICODE atrocities? I mean, I always fire up Vim for things like that. In practice, I rarely edit chat messages outside the browser (different for SO answers)
 
I consider Unicode to be donkey.
 
4:09 PM
@sehe That one I copy-pasted from an old post. In Windows I used charmap, on Linux I use kcharselect.
I fail to see how vim helps.
I mean, unless you memorized the codepoints.
 
Oh, :dig
But yes, for rarities like this: *i_CTRL-V_digit*
 
@sehe btw, I just remembered that kcharselect can list similar characters, and it listed ` (U+1FEF GREEK VARIA) as an alternative to `. I fixed that vim answer of yours :)
 
Considering most vim users are autistic psychopaths, memorizing the codepoints wouldn't surprise me.
 
@sehe That's from the goodies I get with kcharselect.
Search by similarity is awesome btw.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Brilliant. I shall be installing kcharselect
 
4:18 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Did you mostly call me a psychopath? I'll kill you for that.
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@EtiennedeMartel No way. Can't even remember the freaking BOM marker if my life depended on it
 
Why isn't there standardized fixed point math with hardware support? I'd rather have that then inconsistent floats.
 
I don't mind the psychopath (after all, we're planning to overthrow mankind), but I resent the "autistic".
 
@Pubby hardware support would be nice.
 
4:22 PM
Funny thing is that, for a while, my mother wondered if I had Asperger syndrome.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes who's the 'we'
 
Turns out I don't, but a fews years ago, in a job interview, one of the interviewers asked me if I was autistic, because I somehow nailed a supposedly difficult technical test.
 
Dammit, onebox fail.
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, so if you're smart, you must be autistic.
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What's wrong with being artistic? :(
 
4:24 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes the only solution
@Pubby trolling?
 
@thecoshman Us.
 
any hoops
home time for me
got some kick ass weather, and a course for the rest of week, so out of office :D
oooh yeah!
 
You got a week without work?
 
Quick question: Can a derived class re-define private/protected members of base class? (my hunch is yes...)?
 
@user1035219 I assume you mean functions?
 
yes functions
@MooingDuck yes
 
@sbi apparently Tom has (had?) a sense of humor: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/118538/159703
 
@user1035219 Redefine or override?
 
@sehe Oh noes, what have you done! Now I'll be stuck there for hours.
 
@user1035219 Functions can be overriden if declared virtual in a base class, or otherwise a new declaration will hide the declaration of the base class. Hard to tell if either situation counts as 're-defining'.
 
4:28 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes you posted it?
 
But I didn't notice that one.
 
@Pubby I meant override. (Would re-define mean something else and is it possible)?
 
redefining would change the base class's function
 
@LucDanton Thanks that answers my question
@Pubby I see. Is that even possible?
 
4:30 PM
@EtiennedeMartel ??? (I actually have that on my playlist)
@user1035219 Not in C++
 
@Pubby Ok, thanks
 
@Pubby Was more a response to "cool-ass game music".
 
@sehe Oh never mind. It's not that bad. It's only large because it repeats a pattern all over.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah. Wallpaper all over again
@Pubby He hacked your playlist
 
@sehe Damnit, he changed everything to Nickelback.
 
4:33 PM
 
I think this SO user is a nudist:
He has 2 pictures and both of them he's wearing no visible clothing
 
Maybe those pictures were taken while he was programming while e.g. rock climbing topless. That's how extreme programming works right?
 
Well he lives in my city, guess I could go ask him.
 
@Pubby You realize you failed to link to the user
 
Oh, right. His ID is 85371
 
4:43 PM
Ah, I should have known this before:
133
Q: Column 80 - Plain Text optimised SOFU

Farseeker Screenshot / Code Snippet About Browsing the existing SOFU family of websites was OK in a text-based browser, but when you're stuck in a Linux shell with no way out and no other computers around and you just know you saw the answer on Server Fault last week, this is how you can find it...

@Pubby Nice try
 
@sehe I actually don't know his SO account. I just saw he signed up for a SO meetup.
 
@LucDanton Rock climbing topless? WTF?
 
@Pubby Link or it didn happen
 
Yay, GHC is building for 4 hours now.
 
4:48 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes One usually climbs in fair weather. I suppose you shouldn't be afraid of cuts. Random googling.
 
Oh noes! SPAM links
 
You mean?
(Disclaimer: I haven't clicked that, so I can't say what its SFW status is)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes NVSFW
 
 
Now, I'd be interested in 'rock climbing topples'
@Pubby Note how it is from the 'science' photo library
 
4:51 PM
Who the heck flagged that?
 
Xeo
@Pubby What the... who the fuck flagged that?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Just scroll down for relevant images. Not using 'topless' as a keyword was the point, to show that there's nothing special about rock climbing topless.
 
It's science!
 
Yeah, who flagged that?
 
Someone flagged that?
 
4:51 PM
@LucDanton Ah, ok.
 
Let's beat him up!
 
We should counter-flag the flagger.
Eh, YouTube really has trouble with targeted advertising. I get shampoo ads targeted at women, and now I just had a german ad for Uncharted: Golden Abyss.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel You even have ads?
 
Last time I checked, I wasn't German. I don't even speak German.
@Xeo Sure. I'd say one video out of ten starts with a 30-seconds ad.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ah, so you must be a women. Glad we cleared that up
 
Xeo
4:53 PM
@EtiennedeMartel wow, we had that for a while in Germany too, but not anymore it seems
 
@sehe A german female gamer, yeah.
 
@Xeo I think it is pretty simple: it would depend on the channel; some channels probably enable ads either to gain some more income or to pay off the rights involved in posting the vids
It happens to me only when browsing 'quality' material. The usual YT pulp doesn't give me ads (IIRC)
 
@EtiennedeMartel German non-bald female gamer.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, I have plenty of hair. And beard. Erm.
 
Beards are annoying.
 
4:59 PM
Beards are dwarfy.
 
Beards are cool.
 
Mine isn't. It's not even symmetric.
 
I have a beard because I'm too lazy to shave.
 
@CatPlusPlus +1 story of my life.
 
5:28 PM
Anyone up for a quick sys admin question?
 
-3
A: Are there robots with female characteristics in Isaac Asimov's stories?

JOHNYES THERE IS YOU GAY MOTHER FUCKERS, U CAN FUCK THEM

 
He registered just to answer you, you must feel grateful.
 
I like how it contradicts itself
 
5:36 PM
The funniest thing is that he wrote "you" and then "u".
 
Ell
:L
 
I don't know, do people really believe something like that has any impact?
 
Ell
hi guys
 
Oooh, some random person called me a name on the Internet, I'm gonna go cry.
 
@CatPlusPlus But it has! Look how many people had a laugh!
 
5:39 PM
I'm trying to understand the thought process, or lack thereof.
 
hmm, Is there a way to find the SO/SE answer with the lowest score?
 
@MooingDuck It's probably been deleted.
 
Via data explorer, probably.
 
-97
Q: How to send 100,000 emails weekly?

xRobotHow can one send an email to 100,000 users on a weekly basis in PHP? This includes mail to subscribers using the following providers: AOL G-Mail Hotmail Yahoo It is important that all e-mail actually be delivered, to the extent that it is possible. Obviously, just sending the mail conventiona...

 
5:40 PM
Can we get it to -100?
 
Let's make it 100.
 
It has 100 stars, ha
 
How does one have 100k users and still don't know how to send mass mailing?
 
Ell
they dont :L
 
I'd think that's one of first things you learn when your userbase grows beyond a certain point.
And that point ain't 100k.
But then again, you can write large programs by copy-pasting code from SO, so...
 
Ell
5:45 PM
can you? o.O
 
The Advanced Super Ninja Search Options doesn't provide a way to sort results :/
 
@MooingDuck You can sort afterwards-
 
I might be mentally disabled :/
 
Ell
why? :O
 
Did a search for "is:answer", sorted by votes, but it only gives me 334 pages of results. Apparently it gives up after a while. Lowest score I can get while sorted is 61.
I wonder how it decides "relevance" for that search, I can't find a pattern
but this is the most relevant answer on SO: stackoverflow.com/questions/39/…
 
5:52 PM
There isn't. They will try to tell you there is, but it's all elaborate lies.
Even if the explanation makes sense, it doesn't.
 
and the most relevant for "is:question" is the same pages as "is:answer". I bet it's sorted by ID /questions/39/....
 
What's is:result?
Oh.
 
but ID 146 is sorted before 126, so there's something else at play as well
 
ohai nubs
 
sup bub
 
5:58 PM
6 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
There isn't. They will try to tell you there is, but it's all elaborate lies.
 
I been thinking
vertex_buffer<T>
useful class... yay or nay?
 
@DeadMG Wow, that's new.
 
quiet you
 
6:01 PM
@DeadMG What does it do?
 
just wraps a vertex buffer and type-safely puts data in and out
kinda like a std::vector but with IDirect3DVertexBuffer9* on the inside instead of T*
 
> I have no interest in testing against fairy-tale data.
 
@CatPlusPlus neat
 
lol
@DeadMG Type safety sounds good.
 
You want to batch vertex uploads, though.
 
6:05 PM
eh
I'll worry about batching them laters
 
-33
A: How do you get a timestamp in JavaScript?

Douglas Gross var d=new Date(); var timestamp = new Array(2); timestamp[1] = d.getDate(); timestamp[2] = d.getMonth(); document.write(timestamp[1]); switch (timestamp[2]) { case 0: document.write("Jan"); break; case 1: document.write("Feb"); break; ...

Lol.
 
@CatPlusPlus How do I learn to use that? Is there a guide somewhere?
 
it's just SQL
 
Schema is on the right, the rest is experimentation.
 
@DeadMG PostTypeId = 2 <--- where'd the 2 come from?
 
6:13 PM
From other queries looking for answers.
 
-23
A: Break statements In the real world

S.LottIn the real-world, I look at every break statement critically as a potential bug. Not an actual bug, but a potential bug. I challenge the programmers I work with on every break statement to justify its use. Is it more clear? Does it have the expected results? Every statement (especially ever...

 
stackoverflow.com/a/216406/16102 Lol it has a +500 bounty.
 
-23, 500 rep bounty.
 
:P
And 64 comments.
 
Why would that answer net so many downvotes?
 
6:19 PM
Maybe it was on Reddit.
 
if I create a std::vector from a pair of iterators
will it have an exact capacity?
or still have some extra space left over?
 
It can always have more capacity than needed.
 
gonna steal it's resizing algorithm to resize the GPU buffer
 
Wut? Multiply capacity by constant at each reallocation.
 
sure, but I have to have a std::vector<T> going on anyway for when the device resets
so I may as well just mirror it on the GPU rather than using my own method
 
6:21 PM
Then have vector<T> and upload from there.
Why reinventing the wheel.
 
which is what I'm doing :P
no wheel reinventing going on
 
@DeadMG MSVC will allocate exact amounts with functions that it can figure out the count for, unless count = 1.
 
hmmm
size() as number of elements for CPU-side functions or size() as size in bytes for GPU functions?
 
-4
A: Strangest language feature

maxpolkThe fact that there is no encapsulation in C++ (or Java). Any object can violate the encapsulation of any other object, mess around with its private data, as long as it's the same type. For example: #include <iostream> using namespace std; class X { public: // Construct by passing...

Lol.
 
lols#
 
6:26 PM
lol
 
-12
A: Strangest language feature

Dennis CheungYou can throw anything throwable in Java. class YourBoss extends Throwable { } public class Main{ public void main(String[] s) throws YourBoss { try{ throw new YourBoss(); }catch(Exception e){ }catch(Error e){ } } }

This one's better.
 
@MooingDuck Heyy what was the debugger you suggested to me ?
 
@Beginnernato Netbeans or Eclipse, RMartinho suggested Q-Blocks... something?
 
6:29 PM
QT-Creator and CodeBlocks?
 
I have an answer like that somewhere
huh, can't find it
must have been deleted
 
netbeans has .sh extenstion ... how do i open tht ?
 
@Beginnernato say what now?
 
I want Cube World to be out now. :<
 
6:33 PM
@MooingDuck im trying to download netbeans for a linux and the file has a .sh extentsion .. iunno how to open that :S
 
@Beginnernato use a package manager of some sort
 
Linux: the only operating system where you click "Download for my OS" and the file you download can't be opened by the OS in question.
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sh is a shell script, which means you're doing it the hard way
 
@MooingDuck The hard way?
$ ./foo.sh # now sit and wait
 
@Beginnernato try what R.Martinho says, he seems to know stuff.
@RMartinhoFernandes I've never installed anything that way, is that common?
 
6:37 PM
AMD drivers come in that form, but that's definitively not a reference. I mean, binary blobs.
 
@MooingDuck Dunno if it's common. I mostly install stuff through the package manager.
@LucDanton Yeah, NVidia does that too.
 
I forgot how much I dislike SQL syntax errors
 
What's "the idiom to typedef a pointer to a structure"?
 
You mean the C crap like typedef struct foo {} * FOOP;?
 
What's the point of that?
 
6:42 PM
@CatPlusPlus Theoretically speaking, this is actually a good point. But practically speaking, such a strict encapsulation has only disadvantages. I know, I’ve worked with VB6, which uses this.
 
Xeo
@Pubby typedef struct { ... } FOO, *PFOO; C crap
 
I never cared much for OOP theory.
 
@KonradRudolph Ruby does that too.
 
Typedefs can have commas?
 
Xeo
@KonradRudolph > in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. in practice there is
 
6:43 PM
@Pubby Those are two typedefs.
 
What the fuck, Ruby?!
 
Restricting access at object level is unpragmatic.
 
But what's the point of PFOO? Why not just FOO*?
 
Xeo
@Pubby Sure, a typedef is just another declaration
 
But Ruby is pragmatic!
@Pubby There's no point.
 
6:43 PM
@Pubby Only MS does that, y'know.
 
So then why is it an idiom?
 
it's not
 
Xeo
typedef int INT, *PINT, INT_ARR[5], *PINT_ARR[5], (*INT_PARR)[5];
 
@CatPlusPlus Sadly enough many developers took over that type of coding
 
it's only used for Systems Hungarian
 
6:44 PM
@Xeo STOP IT!
 
Why did the nice man tell me it was an idiom then?
 
Microsoft did it once and now they're stuck that way for all eternity
 
@Xeo I think you've had one PINT too many.
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@Pubby He's crazy.
Or works for MS.
Well, he's crazy either way.
 
@CatPlusPlus why does the error message on data.stackexchange.com get paler and paler? I can barely read it now
 
6:45 PM
What error message?
 
they're the Meta sites
 
@CatPlusPlus for syntax errors. Each time I click "Run Query", the message gets paler and paler. I can't even select it to read it
 
@LucDanton I'm only starring that because "you've had 568 ml too many" doesn't work as well.
 
@MooingDuck Dunno.
 
@CatPlusPlus refreshing the page makes it bright red again. I guess I'll just refresh once in a while.
 
6:47 PM
I only made that one query with it.
Not an expert here.
 
@MooingDuck That sounds stupid.
Are you sure you're not drunk?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm quite sure.
 
Ok, just checking.
 
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes Hey, I could've added a function decl too! Be glad that I didn't
@LucDanton But but but.. I don't drink. :(
 
I have a new trick
template<typename ...ExplicitArgs, typename ...Args>
auto forwarder(Args &&...args) -> decltype(
         receiver<ExplicitArgs...>(forward<Args>(args)...)) {
  return receiver<ExplicitArgs...>(forward<Args>(args)...);
}
this is how you can add a nice feature to your perfect forwarding template
 
6:55 PM
GHC is still building.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Did you read an answer where I commented recently?
 
@CatPlusPlus What's taking so long? GCC could have bootstrapped itself by now.
 
That reminds me of it.
 
It's stage2.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes i atted you
 
6:56 PM
@CatPlusPlus Are you building 7.4?
 
Hell knows why it's taking so long.
My server's CPU sucks, most likely.
Yes.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Oh, stupid SO didn't notify me. It seems that in comments you need to put the dot. Sigh...
 
Well, I didn't even notice there was GHC update until I saw Portage is stuck at 3/24 updates 2 hours after I ran emerge-update.
 

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