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12:05 AM
Hey Cabal; I recently approved a suggested edit that I thought was mostly good, but introduced a tag [stlstring] -- which has 17 questions currently tagged. I was a little surprised it wasn't named [stdstring], but that has only 122 questions tagged. Is there a better tag for either or both of these? Which is preferred? Thanks
 
I pondered if there are any good meta-rules for C++ development, and I came up with one
As we all know, it's impossible to indicate in the function name what result a function produces, since the typical function produces ten to thirty different results and has just as many different actions, depending on the arguments.
So, functions should be named systematically, like foo07 (the seventh function in file foo.cpp).
Hopefully it's clear to all that the systematic names are much better than misleading arbitrary ones.
@sbi Same happened to me not long ago (January), although I haven't been active in the MS groups for many years... I think, I will probably not get it. But it would be nice in way, because I have a vague association that you then get free access to all of the latest MS tools (i.e. like a free MSDN subscription or something?)
OTHO., MVPs have to be courteous at all times and not use "rude" words. I think even using the word "bug", instead of approved "problem", can be frowned upon in some contexts. So, perhaps not suitable for me, he he.
@Shog9: I'm not sure but I suspect that the low activity here is somewhat associated with your presence. Which if true is pretty dumb behavior, but consistent with the laws of quantum mechanics: watched pot never boils, and all that.
 
1:15 AM
@StackedCrooked huh, I assume the compile errors shown on ideone are just because the sample is missing #includes? The actual error is just with operator=?
I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Your sample seems valid enough
 
@jalf nice lib
 
1:33 AM
A useful use of lambdas is using them to initialise global variables
 
@DzekTrek thanks. Still need a few kinks worked out though ;)
 
One of these days, I need to teach myself all these advanced C++ features - templates, lambdas, multiple inheritance... lol
 
@Mysticial lol good one
 
@jalf Keep up the good work! :) It's fantastic. ( better than any other STM library I have encountered so far )
 
1:54 AM
@jalf It's not that.
Let me check again.
I want to be sure :)
 
@StackedCrooked anyway, it's late, far too tired to look at it now. Will see if I can figure it out tomorrow. :)
 
No problem.
 
I remember operator= caused me a few headaches because I figured the assignment had to be done transactionally, but as I recall I settled on a fairly simple implementation which just creates a transaction internally and copies the object
 
It occurs when having nested stm objects. I worked around it by removing the nesting.
 
oof, that's a lot of error message
 
2:03 AM
I know...
I don't expect you to read it all now :)
But try the sample I posted yourself!
 
yup, will do
anyway, 'night
 
Gnight.
 
Slow day
 
2:29 AM
@AlfPSteinbach Heh... 'specially given that most of the time I'm "here" I'm actually watching some other room. ;-P
 
I'm writing a webserver and need to replace certain string patterns in URLs. For example %32 would be whatever ascii value hex number 32 is. Surely there's already a function to do this somewhere?
I'm new to C++ so I don't know where to look for a lot of things.
 
@LeviMorrison they're usually called something "encode" and "unencode". but I've only used these functions in scripts, not in C++. they're not in the C++ standard library, but google them
 
2:52 AM
Wow. I really cannot find much lol.
 
I'm not an idiot: besides, I need to decode, not encode.
People reference cpp-netlib but
honestly I cannot find the function the refer to.
 
@LeviMorrison From that comment I would say you have chosen to not think. Or maybe it's very late? Why not try clicking on the link I gave you? Then read the google results.
 
@AlfPSteinbach I'm really insulted, to be quite frank with you. I am fully capable of googling. You don't think I didn't try before I came here? For reference, the top result clearly has problems handling multi-byte characters, the next requires me to install a monolithic C library, and so on. Sending me a 'Let me google that for you' link does not help, and is insulting.
 
@LeviMorrison it worked for me. when that googling doesn't work for you, i think it will not help you if i just give you code or a direct url. you need to work on your googling skills, or think about whether e.g. you're too tired, and sleep on it; better day tomorrow ;-)
 
3:04 AM
@AlfPSteinbach Would you please stop insulting my intelligence? If it worked so well for you, give me a link to a robust URL decoder that doesn't require additional libraries? Go on. I have plenty of other things to do. I'll wait.
 
@LeviMorrison Also, getting insulted when people use their time to help you, to the extent of giving you a link to click on, that's not going to help you.
@LeviMorrison that was the first i found, in one click. i'm not going to give you the ready-cooked fish you're asking for. i now think you're trolling. goodbye.
 
Lol . . . I need to keep this transcript. @NikiC will love it.
 
@LeviMorrison Just of idle curiosity, what makes you think that I or anybody else here know @NikiC?
 
Oh, he's a friend of mine. Every time we come to this chat room, someone is rude or insulting. To be honest, I probably overreacted to you a bit. Please understand my frustration. I've only had one or two people in this room ever be helpful. Everyone else is rude. So when you send me a lmgt link when I just said I have wrote a webserver (past tense), it seemed like standard Lounge<C++> junk.
 
Well, the basic unencode function is pretty trivial. E.g. the SO question about that lists two or three such (full source code). But since there are several de facto "standards" for the encoding I'd guess there might be some hard choice involved in how to decode certain strings.
 
3:42 AM
posted on February 18, 2012 by Scott Meyers

For the third year in a row, Herb Sutter, Andrei Alexandrescu, and I are teaming up for C++ and Beyond, a limited-attendance conference-only-better event built around the dissemination of new, timely, and practical information for serious C++ software developers. This year's C&B will take place August 5-8 in Asheville, North Carolina, at the Grove Park Inn.  A more detailed post anno

 
4:02 AM
hi
 
good morning!
(in Norway)
 
it's morning but not good
 
oh. behind the clouds the sun is shining, somewhere. that's nice. also, winter has finally come to Norway. a bit late, but now we finally have snow.
 
lol
even we had snow earlier
 
4:34 AM
@AlfPSteinbach : That's poetic. In India it is always sunny. Except for the monsoons.
@AlfPSteinbach But isn't it now coming to spring in Europe?
 
@FaheemMitha well, mother nature has been quite a bit confused lately, like the last ten or fifteen years
 
Thaw came a week ago here.
Probably not only Belgium.
Trivia: What happens if you click the Google logo on the Google homepage?
 
@AlfPSteinbach : Maybe it's global warmiing / climate change.
@StackedCrooked : Nothing here.
 
4:51 AM
Yeah, it used to be a link to the Google homepage. Now it isn't anymore.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:08 AM
no one wakes up early on a saturday?
 
7:33 AM
@AlfPSteinbach what's the time on your side? It's 11:32 AM here.
 
damn. it's boring here without people criticising java, talking about sex or debating haskell.
 
^ I like happen to like Haskell
And Java is annoying
better?
 
@robjb you forgot the third thing.
 
Hmm
Well I could, but I won't.
 
sbi
7:44 AM
@AlfPSteinbach I don't know if you get such benefits as an MVP, but it seems reasonable to assume. OTOH, I in the last 15 years access to MSDN in every company I have worked for, so I'm not too interested in that.
@IntermediateHacker My smallest kid woke me up around 6am. (During the week I have trouble getting her out of bed at 6:15.) I tried to keep her quiet until the others were awake, which meant I didn't have a chance to sleep since. :(
@IntermediateHacker Criticizing Java here has become boring, too. If you want thrill, go to the Java room and criticize it.
@IntermediateHacker There's a Haskell room, too (and from what I know it's mostly populated by regulars from here). There's no sex room, though, and I doubt there'll ever be one.
 
@sbi agreed - criticizing Java is lame
 
@sbi Criticizing Java usually leads to the second thing in the list, that's why it's mentioned.
 
sbi
@IntermediateHacker I doubt I would be roused by Java critique. I strongly prefer women.
Anyway, I now need to make breakfast for the kids.
 
criticizing java is as appealing as beating a dead horse
 
> I might add that I totally disagree with the manipulation of history that seems to be so common here. Those who wipe out discussions they would rather have not taken place are bound to see them repeated.
^ @sbi
 
7:51 AM
NEW OPINION: Criticizing Java is not fun. People don't get roused by criticizing Java. Criticizing Java is lame.
NOTE TO SELF: Gotta try beating a dead horse when I have time and a horse.
 
yes, but if they're lucky, they're not around then, or it doesn't matter to them then, and anyway meanwhile opinion is formed without the removed stuff to influence said opinion
 
@IntermediateHacker Criticizing Java never gets old
 
@IntermediateHacker maybe you can find a dead horse in the roadkill group?
 
@DeadMG can't agree more.
 
the great thing about Java is that whenever you feel down in the dumps, and whenever you get stuck dealing with Windows.h's crappy macros, and that kind of C++ crap, you can always think "Well, it could be worse. I could be programming in Java."
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7:54 AM
mawning
 
in કેઝ્યુઅલ ચેટ, 10 mins ago, by Jigar Patel
@IntermediateHacker ohh Wel Come.... but don`t hack this room???
........
 
@TonyTheLion ohai
 
what's up?
 
hmm
 
7:56 AM
I have a very nasty feeling right now
I need to spend physically way more hours of the day coding instead of just letting it cook in the back of my head
 
@DeadMG stomach?
 
it's taking way too long for me to iterate my designs
 
damn my lousy internet connection. I hate living on the f*cking border. Sometimes i get signals from UAE, then I get signals from Oman while sitting in the same damn place, and the company automatically charge me RO 2 roaming every time.
 
I love my internet connection
 
8:00 AM
my internet connection loves me
 
wow, you must have really hit it hard around the head
 
guess it's more of a location problem than an internet connection problem.
 
@DeadMG hahah lol
location location location
 
@IntermediateHacker Get a hardline instead of wireless?
 
@DeadMG I have that too. But it has only one slot and is constantly hijacked by my mom. Which leaves me with the wireless.
 
8:03 AM
ah
what do you mean has only one slot?
 
that sucks
 
@DeadMG usually hard-line broadbands here allow up to three slots for LAN Wires. But mine has only one.
 
uh, get a router or splitter?
they're pretty damn cheap
 
Yeah, I'll get one soon .
 
routers and splitters come with at least wired Ethernet outputs
splitters are way cheaper than routers
 
8:05 AM
Do they slow down the internet speed?
 
just fyi
no
pretty much everyone's internet goes through a router
my internet at my parent's house goes through a splitter and a router
 
thanks. I feel like an idiot for now for wasting the past 3 months wrestling with the wireless connection when I could just have bought a splitter. Will get one as soon as I can.
 
no probs
 
lol
I thought that routers/splitters were common sense
 
@TonyTheLion guess common sense isn't common.
 
8:09 AM
it never has been and it never will be
 
my mom has a lot of it, maybe she could lend me some of her common sense. -_-
 
hahah
it's uncommon sense then
 
man
why do I keep eating cookies? they do nothing but make me sick
 
you there is other things you can eat
 
@DeadMG chocolate cup cakes is my weakness.
 
8:15 AM
also
why do I keep declaring functions in my interfaces where I have absolutely no fucking idea how to implement them and don't need their functionality?
that's dumb-ass cakes
 
8:29 AM
lol, can't stop reading those Dilbert comic strips. funny as hell.
 
man
a friend of mine recommended me Fringe
 
the season pilot is a bunch of people's flesh melting off
not really what I'm looking for
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach ISTR that. Could be written by me. I certainly agree. Where is it from?
 
@sbi it was something you wrote on meta
 
sbi
8:40 AM
@AlfPSteinbach Yeah, of course, wiping out discussion will influence opinions to some degree. For a while. That is why I speak up so loudly whenever I see it here, after all: It's the only way to prevent that from happening.
Common sense tends to be retrospective. (Larry Moore)
 
wait, you can reply to someone without including @their_name ?
 
sbi
@IntermediateHacker You have been here for so long. You might want to finally bite the bullet and read those newbie hints. You might, after all, learn something doing so.
@AlfPSteinbach Is that the origin of the PHB's hairstyle?
 
wait, found it.
@sbi I read the newbie hints!
the '@sbi' was still automatically included???
 
sbi
Sigh. Have a look at the message's unformatted source.
 
@IntermediateHacker The message ID's are like raw pointers.
 
8:54 AM
oh, I get it.
 
sbi
It's simply that referring oneboxed message aren't rendered to spell out the name.
:2674568 No, this didn't work when we tried a year or two ago.
 
sbi
@IntermediateHacker Really. You've been here for months, and you never noticed that oneboxed message don't spell out a referee? For a C++ programmer, who should be used to pay attention to details, this is amazingly inattentive.
 
@sbi guess there's no denying it. I'm a hopeless idiot. :'(
 
sbi
:2674610 Really??
What happens if a comment consists of nothing but a, erm, you know, a comment?
 
9:01 AM
@sbi Yeah, I interpreted @IntermediateHacker's initial assertion to be about the final appearance of the message, so had to see if you could "invisibly" make a message a reply
 
Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom
404k 109 1722 3013
crossed 4kk rep >:(
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter No, I was amazed by this comment comments. Does this really work?
 
Jon Skeet is invincible. :(
wait, I have an idea.
 
@IntermediateHacker .com ?
 
@MrAnubis click it now. I edited it.
 
9:07 AM
13 secs ago, by Potatoswatter
Quine
 
@IntermediateHacker yeah , another good example of recursion :P
 
@MrAnubis yeah. :D
 
sbi
@IntermediateHacker No, Jon Skeet is a freak. I've lost interest in the rep game long before I reached 10% the rep he has. He just kept playing, like a child playing a game and never getting bored of it. That's pathetic.
5
Also, Jon Skeet's rep/answer ratio is half of mine. :)
 
I can feel some fire :P
yeah it's so true :)
 
@MrAnubis ....lol. but he does have a point. rep is just an overrated game.
 
sbi
9:10 AM
@MrAnubis No, there's no fire at all. It's more like mild amusement.
 
@sbi But whatever you said is 100% true , He is so much in rep-whoring
I envy him :D
@sbi I can write code at runtime in C# using reflection ?
 
sbi
@MrAnubis If there's anything about Jon I envy him for, it's his simple single mindedness. Live must be a lot easier when you have but one thing in your mind. (He has two kids, I understand. They are older than SO, though.)
@MrAnubis How would I know whether you can do that?
 
@sbi in C# I meant, that is possible ? (a friend had told me recently)
 
@sbi Eh. His is just over 20. That's not bad. Mine is just under 30, seems OK. Yours is about 40, which seems exceptional.
 
sbi
@MrAnubis I'm not sure whether this is what you were asking about, but I did have to fiddle with someone else's code the other day, and the code created a a new class at runtime, depending on some runtime parameters.
@Potatoswatter Actually, his was ~21, mine ~40. Damn, now this message has become useless. I should have waited for your 2mins edit period to end.
 
9:17 AM
@sbi cool feature , Thanks for help :)
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter Well, to be fair, you will have to take into account the rep cap. I think he averages at ~300rep/day. That's 100 per day above the rep cap. (And 5 times as much as I made.)
But that's why I said he's a freak. What does he do this for? Seems pointless.
 
@sbi Ah, considering the rep cap, he doesn't appear concerned with reputation at all. Guess he just likes helping C# users. :v) stackoverflow.com/users/22656/jon-skeet?tab=reputation
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter Yeah, but doesn't it get old to all of us to answer the same questions over and over? Where's the fun in that?
 
@sbi Perhaps MS decided it's worthwhile to pay him for whatever he's been doing.
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter Isn't he with google?
 
9:27 AM
Oh, right, oops. I dunno, never mind.
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter Well, it doesn't change your argument, of course.
I always thought I heard he's doing Java for them. ICBWT.
 
I crapped a baleen whale today?
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter What's that mean in plain English
 
}} The baleen whales, also called whalebone whales or great whales, form the Mysticeti, one of two suborders of the Cetacea (whales, dolphins, and porpoises). Baleen whales are characterized by having baleen plates for filtering food from water, rather than having teeth. This distinguishes them from the other suborder of cetaceans, the toothed whales or Odontoceti. Living Mysticeti species have teeth only during the embryonal phase. Fossil Mysticeti had teeth before baleen evolved. The suborder contains four extant families and fifteen species. Etymology The taxonomic name Mysticeti app...
Human feces (or human faeces), also known as a stool, is the waste product of the human digestive system including bacteria. It varies significantly in appearance, according to the state of the digestive system, diet and general health. Normally stool is semisolid, with a mucus coating. Small pieces of harder, less moist feces can sometimes be seen impacted on the distal (leading) end. This is a normal occurrence when a prior bowel movement is incomplete, and feces are returned from the rectum to the intestine, where water is absorbed. Meconium (sometimes erroneously spelled merconi...
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter I had already found that. I still don't know what "crapping a baleen whale" means.
 
9:42 AM
I'm not being particularly mature at the moment.
 
sbi
Two of my kids just involuntarily upended three boxes of sorted Lego, and will now have to sort the mess they made. The boy is very upset. :(
 
@sbi it means something big came out
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach Ah. Slaps forehead.
 
Well that saves me the trouble of figuring out what "loving on a boat" is. Google's results looked yucky.
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter LOL! I meant "living". :-o
And why would loving be yucky — even on a boat?
Love can be messy, though. To that I agree.
When my daughter was visited by her boyfriend for the first time, I told her that, and asked her to change her bedclothes more often. When she looked somewhat pained, I offered to help her prepare the washing machine, and then she could stuff it in there herself, without it passing through my hands. To that she enthusiastically agreed. :)
A nice side effect of this is that she now sometimes does laundry on her own.
 
10:04 AM
shit, just broke my chair
 
Well, if your daughter had sex such that it got into Google's index, that would be even more yucky than you handling the laundry.
 
sbi
Oh, Shog is back. We're under surveillance again. :(
 
I wonder if I am allowed to use algorithms for commercially that I run into in a research paper. any ideas please?
 
yes
 
@DeadMG Was it like a baleen whale?
 
sbi
10:05 AM
@Potatoswatter I think her laptop got used rarely when he was here, so the webcam didn't come into play.
 
you cannot copyright or patent an algorithm, as far as I am aware
@Potatoswatter What even is a baleen whale?
 
@DeadMG See above.
 
sbi
@DeadMG I think in the US you can.
 
@Potatoswatter Right. How would breaking my chair even possibly approximate such a thing?
 
10:06 AM
"shit just broke my chair"…
 
...and?
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter Another way to show the importance of a comma.
 
they were talking about human feces
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion You didn't turn up until we started talking about sex again.
 
you're talking about shit, that's not sex afaik
sex != human waste products
 
10:09 AM
depends on if you consider children a waste
 
sbi
However, you appeared 2 or 3mins after @Potatoswatter dropped the word "sex", while feces had already been talked about an hour earlier.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Yes! See the log.
 
meh, you're right
I swear, I had no idea
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion It's called "instinct".
 
10:12 AM
lol
 
Morning.
 
anybody here familiar with ARM assembler?
morning @CatPlusPlus
 
@TonyTheLion It's pretty standard RISC… what's the question?
 
What you need to learn about new architecture on that level is that architecture's manual.
 
I have a series of statements that look like this: ff8345a0 .word 0xff8345a0 I wondered what this means, because most of the time, the address references nothing else.
 
10:24 AM
@TonyTheLion That's a common syntax for defining data. So the label ff8345a0 points to the assembled data 0xff8345a0. Try checking at runtime what 0xff8345a0 points to, but probably it points somewhere. Unusual to have such a label, though. (And if the address were less than 0xa0000000, the resulting label would be invalid!)
 
It's probably generated code.
 
@Potatoswatter oh I see, well, as unusual as it may be, there's a lot of them in my dump
 
Maybe a bad pointer? :D
 
@TonyTheLion If you disassembled a binary with no symbols, then the disassembler has no better way to identify a global object than its static address. But it's odd it wouldn't put an underscore in front, since usually a label can't begin with a numeral.
 
Since the program works, I doubt it
@Potatoswatter ah right
e59ff304 ldr pc, [pc, #772] ; 180f14 <sub_FFBB3254+0xa0> this seems to be the the way some of this data is loaded
 
10:34 AM
@TonyTheLion Is that inside a switch statement?
 
just a subroutine, it seems
00180c08 <sub_FF83A460>:
  180c08:	e59ff304 	ldr	pc, [pc, #772]	; 180f14 <sub_FFBB3254+0xa0>
 
@TonyTheLion Unless they are unused pointers hanging around in memory or something
 
there's a whole slew of them
 
Oh, it's a trampoline-style jump table.
Probably to extend the range of nearby local jumps.
 
ah
hmmmm interesting
but the addresses it jumps to aren't available without running it?
 
10:37 AM
That one jumps to 180f14… just use the comment :)
 
because the sub_xxxxxx routines go to one of these .word things, which lead to nowhere
 
0x180c08 + 772 = 0x180f14
 
sbi
@DeadMG Well, with this one, it's still in the process of happening legally. I guess it just took me a while to get used to the practical state, so I might have referred to the old state once in a while. I'm sorry for confusing you.
 
@Potatoswatter right, that leads here: 180f14: ff83a460 .word 0xff83a460
so I guess the ff.... is a runtime thing?
 
@TonyTheLion Yes, so ff83a460 is the address of the destination code.
 
10:39 AM
@sbi That's OK, it's not like I can even remember if I ate breakfast, let alone the marital state of others
 
Are you using a case-insensitive search? The sub_XXX labels are capitals while the xxx labels are lowercase.
 
no, my search is case sensitive
 
now I can't lean back on my chair
because it's broken
 
It's possible but unlikely that the destination address is inside a subroutine or otherwise wasn't labelled by the disassembler, you can try truncating the label to find the nearest preceding subroutine start.
 
10:42 AM
Any opinions on new windows logo?
 
@Potatoswatter yea well, I just realized I don't have all the sources of what this code can reference, so it's possible there's references to places I can't access
I don't have the sources of the OS this runs on, and some of this stuff references this OS
@Pubby which one?
 
@TonyTheLion Well, either it points to the same binary you just disassembled, or it points to an external library in which case the label should appear in the library imports table.
 
@TonyTheLion The Windows 8 one
 
Check that the disassembler is giving you the statically linked libraries.
 
:|
Is that really the Windows 8 logo?
 
10:44 AM
@Pubby It's meh with a capital TM.
 
@Pubby that's ugly
 
Greece wants their flag back.
 
IMO they should just go back to 98's logo
 
That logo will drive me crazy because the bar in the middle of the window doesn't have perspective applied to it
/me cries
 
@monokrome That's exactly what I was thinking
Unless it's not actually a perspective logo. The window could just be a strange shape.
 
10:47 AM
Enough people are going to think that it's a window that it counts as an issue! :|
 
> Windows To Go will allow Windows 8 to be run from a bootable USB device
 
maaaan
can't lean back! on my chair! fail! :(
 
wut? no more reason to have a linux bootable USB stick
damn :(
 
@TonyTheLion Except that it runs Linux :)
 
@monokrome Enough reason to never have it :P
 
10:51 AM
But it's not Windows!
 
an excellent reason to not use it
 
An excellent reason to not use Windows!
 
the only reason I wouldn't use Windows is because of the price
but since I'm a student, I don't have to pay, so that's gone
 
DeadMG is a hardcore windows fan, so no point even trying to convince him to use something else
 
Meh. Windows on a USB stick says more about the advance of hardware than software.
 
10:52 AM
and even if I wasn't, I'd probably just crack open the closest torrent site
there's no reason for me to use anything else
 
Linux is free, so you don't need to crack open a torrent site
:)
 
Linux is only free if my time is worthless
 
Linux is faster to use than Windows
 
I bet you've never even tried it
 
@TonyTheLion It was inflicted upon me in the university labs. A good part of the reason why I never go to them.
@Pubby I doubt that very much.
 
10:55 AM
woah, "inflicted upon me", sounds like you were tortured using Linux
 
well, I'm not sure I'd shy away from using Linux being equivalent to torture
 
Well, the Linux labs at my uni were an awful attempt to clone an ancient Sun environment.
Literally an early 90's window manager. But everyone gets enough exposure to Linux these days, that wouldn't be an excuse for ignorance.
 
if I changed to Linux, I would have to re-learn the operation of virtually every program
most of which would probably come with shitty command-line interfaces which take a decade to be proficient enough to equal the speed of a GUI
 
be happy you can learn something, open your mind to new things :)
 
10:58 AM
and then when I'm done, the only result would be that I would have an operating system that's as useful as Windows, except it doesn't play games, so less useful than Windows
 
ahh games
now we get to the crux of the situation
 
@TonyTheLion You could be waterboarded. Want that experience?
 
Unless you cloister yourself in Microsoft's walled garden (and that likely means ditching C++), you'll use Linux soon enough.
 
It takes like a week to be faster at command line than GUI
 
@Potatoswatter Why?
 
10:59 AM
@DeadMG I could be, but Linux isn't going to waterboard me
 
@DeadMG Because it's incredibly popular. You will use it at work.
 
@TonyTheLion That's not the point. The point is that there are some experiences which are not worth having. Why have a lesser experience when you could have a greater experience?
 

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