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8:00 PM
@sbi It was also the last time the US were the only ones with it.
 
@sbi I am not making your point. You are claiming that I am wrong for not wanting Obama re-elected because the rest of the world believe otherwise.
 
The world breathes a collective sigh of relief #thankyouamerica
 
user1182183
anyway when will this fake world economy crisis be gone? Any known (leaked by world leaders associates) end date yet?
 
@sbi Sounds like a pretty lame excuse for (by your own admission) being completely illogical.
 
@GamErix I don't think it's a conspiracy, actually.
 
sbi
8:01 PM
@Chimera Did I say you're "wrong"? I don't think so. I just consider it ridiculous that one can want a party in power that spouts as much nonsense as everybody else together.
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel :>
 
@sbi You want your name to be associated with argument by rape?
 
Let's not forget most Romney supporters are probably voting against Obama and not for Romney.
 
user1182183
Bytheway, is it true that america bought alaska from russia?
 
user1182183
for $0.02 / km2
 
8:03 PM
@GamErix yes
 
@EtiennedeMartel ...and (being fair) vice versa. I have yet to cast what I'd think of as a vote for any candidate, only against a worse one.
 
@GamErix no.
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck gold, oil, yay xD rich rich rich , and russians: FUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
@sbi Enough non-sense is spouted by both parties. I compared what I believe to be facts and came to the conclusion Romney would be better... And my decision is not dependent on what other countries think or even other US citizens.
 
user1182183
 
sbi
8:04 PM
@JerryCoffin Shrug. I am not going to be dragged into a meta-discussion about that, but I think my analogy pretty well parallels what you said: In preparation for something unspeakably bad, someone does something that would be good if it wasn't overshadowed by the bad that followed. YMMV, of course.
@R.MartinhoFernandes My name? Never. This handle? Fine.
 
@GamErix 2 cents per acre ~ $5 per km^2
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck ye ok but in short : for a ridicoulusly low price xD
 
@GamErix 1 M$ back them, I think.
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel 1 million dollars? ; O
 
sbi
@Chimera Yeah. I heard that. And I have brought up arguments why this might not be a wise thing to do. To which you repeated what I was bringing up arguments against. Before that gets tiring, I'll bow out.
 
8:06 PM
@GamErix IIRC, yes.
 
user1182183
1.481.347 km2 ... * 1,000,000 .. OHMG
 
user1182183
russia isn't rich? XD
 
@sbi Yes please bow out. I'm not going to be persuaded by mob mentality.
 
@GamErix What.
 
user1182183
(surface of alaska) * 1M$ /km2
 
8:07 PM
@llonesmiz Oh aha. Thanks for doing the leg work there. Having a look whether it is a dupe. So it is. Closing as dupe :) — sehe 1 min ago
 
@GamErix That's not what I meant.
 
close votes anyone? ^
 
sbi
@Chimera Haha!
 
I meant 1 M$ for the whole thing.
 
user1182183
8:07 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh
 
user1182183
u mean whole alaska?
 
user1182183
xD
 
Yes.
> Alaska was purchased from Russia on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million ($120 million adjusted for inflation) at approximately two cents per acre ($4.74/km²).
 
user1182183
yea then it's really, well, cheap, not for me *sigh
 
Looks like I was bullshiting.
Again.
 
8:08 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'll never trust you again.
 
sbi
user image
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There are so many threads on reddit today about people who moved from the US to another country and how happy they are.
 
user1182183
I moved to The NEtherlands and now I'm fucked because if my whole family (5 persons) want to get the Dutch nationality we have to pay almost 3,000 euros
 
sbi
@Rapptz Because so much of what the Reps opposed is standard pretty much everywhere else?
 
@sbi I think your analogy is fatally flawed. A rape is unspeakably awful in itself. Buying a dress doesn't change that either way. At the same time, you seem to be basically attempting to legitimize an ad hominem attack, assuming that basically since he was evil, everything he did must be considered wrong.
 
8:10 PM
@sbi Yes because we ALL know that ALL Republicans are against the gay population and don't want evolution taught.
 
user1182183
byebye military officer*
 
sbi
@Chimera hey, I was already out! And you already kicked at me once afterwards. No need to repeat that.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin No, that's wrong. That wasn't my reasoning. But this, too, is too tiring for me tonight, so I'll drop it, too.
 
@sbi Did you say you messed up? I honestly did not follow the whole discussion.
 
sbi
8:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, I had seen that one, too, earlier in the campaign.
 
@sbi What? You think I'm not going to mention the obvious bullshit of that note?
 
sbi
@Chimera Yawn.
 
I'm trying to find a social poll and see where most republicans stand on social issues. I'm kind of interested.
 
@sbi Have a little respect and don't lump people into neat little boxes. It doesn't work that way.
 
@GamErix 1 million total
 
sbi
8:15 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Actually, I didn't. He said (and I quote) "the intent was almost certainly bad -- but that doesn't mean all the effects were bad" — to which I brought an example of a case where nobody agreed with that statement. Since then, and for reasons I can't fathom, it's become meta.
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck yeye I knew that :$
 
@EtiennedeMartel lololololol
 
@sbi Well, your analogy did include rape. That's pretty bad.
 
 
8:16 PM
> vintage-food-has-replaced-my-sex-life-now-i-cant-even-get-into-my-own-pants-Foodpants.jpg
Nice image name.
 
@Rapptz I suspect that'll be hard to find. The primary system means almost everybody registers with one of the two main parties, but at least among the people I know, most choose based on which party the consider marginally less insane, not because they really agree with the platform of the one they choose.
 
> Women exempt from combat; “candid analysis” of military gays.
Damn shit.
 
@Rapptz SEO
 
user1182183
@sehe at which age?
 
@JerryCoffin Very well said.
 
8:17 PM
@GamErix 1957, obviously (the picture dates itself)
 
> Best way to deter crime is to enforce existing laws.
 
user1182183
@sehe ye but how old were u? :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel What is "candid analysis"?
 
Damn it, when will these idiots learn that rehabilitation is superior to incarceration for most cases?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, but it was about Hitler and war! Also, it was an analogy. And when became repelling arguments by applying them to extreme situations a bad thing?
 
8:18 PM
@GamErix 0 y/o at birth, 58 in my prime. I'm getting there
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think rape is valid in arguments when the subject is Hitler.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes This is not a test, this is rooock and roooollllllllll
 
Hey dudes
 
@EtiennedeMartel That is why I'm becoming a foster parent. To hopefully help at risk children so they don't end up in the justice system.
 
Look, someone else! Hide the politics and let's go back to C++ before they notice.
 
8:19 PM
@Chucky Oï. Been here before?
 
lol
 
Uhoh
Don'ts makes its bads...
Takes a sads songs...
Ands makes its betters
 
When I left this place, it was still in a pretty good shape. What happened ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You there in the frying pan. Yeah, come on out here with us in the fire!
 
I'm new
 
8:20 PM
@kbok Time passed.
 
@Chimera So honest question, feel free to ignore, but do you typically vote Republican? Or do you vote independently?
 
sbi
@Chimera It is your country that tries to shoehorn the political spectrum into two boxes, not mine. There's five parties in my country's parliament, and six (plus one party-less MP) in my state's.
 
Hitler/Obama rape debate ?
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@Chucky Then that means you got to read the newbie hints.
(Seriously, am I the only one here who tries to enforce the newbie hints thing?)
 
@kbok That's too good to stay unstarred.
 
8:21 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Hey chill out. You don't need to enforce that pro forma
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's the noob hents now
 
@kbok Obama has much more sex appeal than Hitler. I mean, Hitler had only one testicle.
 
user1182183
what a shame the hiberfil.sys can't be moved to the root of another partition -.- hurray for most backup software >x
 
@Rapptz I vote who I believe will do the best job regardless of the party they are affiliated with.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why do you think we ownerized you? whistles
 
8:21 PM
@sehe I'm chiller than a popsicle.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What.
 
user1182183
at least Acronis True Image can compress 18 gb into 8 gb
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think it's an urban legend. Better post a question on Skeptics
 
@Chimera Ah. Okay.
 
@kbok "Was Hitler monoballed?"
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8:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Then why the alarm for nothing? There was a new user. Big deal. He didn't even drive by link, swear or call names. It could be worse :)
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't tell me that he was monoballed by a Jew..
 
@sbi My comment about putting people into neat little boxes was a response to the image you posted... Not about the number of political parties a country may or may not have.
 
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Q: Did Hitler only have one testicle?

PolynomialIt has been suggested many times that Adolf Hitler suffered from monorchism - i.e. he had only one testicle. Amusingly, people always seem to remember that it was (supposedly) his left testicle that was missing. The Wikipedia article is pretty verbose and has numerous issues, and I couldn't spot...

 
seriously
 
It can't, really. The 18gb was just artificially inflated: so much redundancy...
(conversely, any decent compression tool would do the same)
 
8:23 PM
@Chimera takes two people to stop talking. You can't ask him to butt out and then keep talking. Whatever he says, don't respond.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wow this is a real question?
 
Would anyone be able to quickly tell me what's wrong with a simple array sum program?
 
@sehe I always give the newbie hints to newbies. And, oh, look, a question!
 
@EtiennedeMartel No need for any sweat: it's in the starboard
 
user1182183
@sehe substract a 3 gb hiberfil.sys from it and it's 15GB > 8 GB, seriously, that's some nice shit over here
 
8:24 PM
@Chucky The problem is arrays.
 
@Chucky Nope. Stack Overflow and the hints
 
@MooingDuck Good advice. Plonk.
 
@sehe I like dumping links.
 
@Chucky use std::array
@Chimera plonk is a little strong.
 
I'm like a garbage truck. But filled with links.
 
8:25 PM
@MooingDuck If it works...
 
user1182183
anyway I'm wondering why VS2012 requires 5GB on my system drive... even when I select another partition >_>
 
@MooingDuck It's just temporary until this conversation is long gone.
 
@MooingDuck Likely not the problem. Inb4 float inexact
 
user1182183
Now I have to go and buy a larger usb stick
 
user1182183
for backups
 
8:25 PM
@GamErix because Microsoft
 
sbi
@Chimera Your response, young man, was accusing me to put ALL Reps into one box, in response to a text that started with "to all those Reps who said X." I am sorry, but this really seems rather silly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's the Unicode error/placeholder/whatever fucked up shit character?
 
@GamErix Don't back it up. Backup your data, not the software. It doesn't work well anyway to restore it
 
sbi
@GamErix Runtime libs.
 
@EtiennedeMartel U+FFFD
 
8:26 PM
 
@sbi Yeah. But 5Gb ...
 
user1182183
@sehe don't have any non-restorable data, and because I hate OS slowdowns I just make a backup of it
 
sbi
@sehe I suppose it installs Debug versions. ICBWT.
 
@GamErix "I hate OS slowdowns" -> "I waste time copying more bits unnecessarily" seems like some contradiction to me
@sbi Yeah. But 5Gb ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks. What's the difference between that and U+001A?
 
8:28 PM
@GamErix lolwut
 
sbi
@sehe Really, I'm just guessing.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's some control character.
 
user1182183
anyway this is how I setup my system now: C: drive; windows, program files, program files (x86), Z: drive, \users\ , all other shit, pagefiles, games, etc
 
@GamErix I'd blame .NET. Such a nice target, it doesn't matter whether it's true!
 
AFAICT the installer doesn't ship symbols (we have symbol servers for that now). So it would just be the binaries. 5 Gb is freaking awesome
 
user1182183
8:28 PM
with C drive ony 25 GB and Z 470GB
 
This is how I setup my system: hard drive: stuff.
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@GamErix windows and program files fits in 25GB? huh. I normally put the games on that same drive
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes now tell me which files you have on each sector :>
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, that's "substitute" from ASCII.
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck 15GB to be exactly
 
8:30 PM
@MooingDuck Welcome to Win7.
 
to be exactly what
 
user1182183
Windows 7 ultimate with all VC++ redistributables (x86 and x86) and directx and net frameworks from 1.1 to 4.5
 
user1182183
+ all my drivers
 
@GamErix My guess, 32bit, since 64bit takes 30Gb on bare install, IIRC
 
user1182183
@sehe 64 seriously
 
8:30 PM
Wokay. Not bad.
 
@GamErix what about things like browsers, ides, and other non-games
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck Z:\
 
I have a wireless network with several APs and one of them is defective. I would like to blacklist it on Win8. Any ideas ?
 
user1182183
even all user accounts areo n another partition
 
@GamErix huh
 
8:31 PM
@kbok Replace or remove that AP?
 
I can hardcode one MAC address in my netcfg config file on Arch, but on windows, no luck
@Chimera It's not my network actually
 
@kbok Use a firewall rule?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Honestly I don't know why they didn't pick that one instead of making up a new one. Possibly because it already had meaning elsewhere (namely ^Z for EOF in DOS and ^Z for suspend in *nix)
 
A firewall rule ? To blacklist an AP ?
 
@kbok Sure, doesn't the AP have it's own IP?
 
8:33 PM
We have no IP layer at the time the blacklisting must be done
It's a pre-handshake event
 
@EtiennedeMartel I am not versed in the history of the standard, so that's all I can say.
 
Anyway I'm glad I know where's the problem from, I've had connection issues since nearly six months now
If I can kick that shit off I could play starcraft online again
 
user1182183
C: plain windows with drivers, hiberfil.sys (3.5GB) and now VS2012 (5GB), 21 GB.
 
Else I'll have to setup a router and wire all that shit together
 
user1182183
User profiles, appdata, temp, other shit, program, games on Z: which is 470 GB and only 100GB used
 
8:36 PM
I honestly don't see the point.
But then, I don't have to reinstall Windows every three months or whatever.
 
Why does the sleep file needs to be 8.3 ? This is 2012 for god's sake
 
And no, I have no idea why my system doesn't fuck up that often.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes At least in the usual case, the point seems to be to get all the really frequently used stuff on an SSD, and everything else somewhere else.
 
@kbok sleep file? 8.3?
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes well now when I need to reinstall I will just restore a "just the system" backup image
 
8:37 PM
@kbok Possibly because it needs to be accessed early at boot time.
 
user1182183
everything else will work fine
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But it's NTFS anyway so you need a complex driver
 
@melak47 "hiberfile.sys" this is a 8.3 scheme, from the old MS-DOS days
 
8:38 PM
@kbok haha, you made it 9.3.
 
user1182183
[The filesystem paradox](http://technet.microsoft.com/nl-nl/magazine/2007.11.windowsconfidential(en-us).aspx)

*"My colleague Adrian Oney explained: in order to read the boot files off the disk, you need the file system driver, but the file system driver is on the disk, which you can't read until you've loaded the file system driver. Oh no, Catch-22!"*
 
@kbok precisely that: it is a special file and will be placed such that it doesn't require the complex driver
 
eight chars dot extension
 
@kbok oh, I turned that thing off anyway. was eating too much SSD space with 16GB RAM :)
 
8:41 PM
@kbok At a guess, it's more just because there's never been a particularly good reason to change it.
 
Oh yeah, it may have been there for a longer time than I thought :)
 
@JerryCoffin that too. Win7+ has had ability to boot from VHD file images for a while now and I'm pretty sure they can be in 'arbitray paths'. It might be a 2phase loader, though (like modern grubs: stage 1, stage 1.5 (with special drivers), stage 2
 
@kbok AFAIK it wasn't there before XP.
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin kinda stupid to waste an expensive SSD for hibernation
 
user1182183
and SSD's aren't that old...
 
8:43 PM
I always wondered where the stage1.5 was located ? At some fixed location on the disk or something ?
 
Ell
Argh I hate "continue" buttons that do nothing!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes XP is quite old though
 
user1182183
@Ell "continue to click this stupid button and let it get on your nerves continously"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd have to check to be sure, but seem to recall it being there in Win2K and NT 4 as well.
 
@JerryCoffin Or don't check, and we can both be right (and you don't waste precious time proving me wrong).
:P
 
8:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sounds all right to me.
 
Anyway, 8.3 was long gone by then, no?
 
Does skyrim run on wine ? SC2 ?
 
user1182183
F# DAFUQ?
 
user1182183
*just installed VS2012...
 
8:49 PM
F# is actually pretty good if you have some time to dedicate to learning it
 
F# is cool. Computation workflows are sweet.
 
user1182183
@kbok reading about it and sounds impressive
 
It's big in the finance industry.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Workflows are just monads in disguise, aren't they?
 
@FredOverflow Not just.
 
8:50 PM
What else do they offer beyond Monads?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes and no -- NT supported long file names from the beginning, but early on was frequently used with MS-DOS based systems (NT 3.1 was roughly concurrent with Windows 3.1).
 
> Computation expressions in F# provide a convenient syntax for writing computations that can be sequenced and combined using control flow constructs and bindings. They can be used to provide a convenient syntax for monads, a functional programming feature that can be used to manage data, control, and side effects in functional programs.
 
user1182183
XNA 4.0 works with VS2012?
 
user1182183
want to try to create stupid useless time consuming game
 
Ell
8:52 PM
hm. Why does it need to put stuff on C:/ ?
 
@kbok Wait. My semantic analyzer keeps changing back-and-forth: "finance" <-> "industry"?
@Ell It doesn't. It needs to put on SYSVOL$
 
Ell
why?
 
@GamErix lol
 
@sehe yep, the finance industry
 
@Ell Because it has been programmed to do so, probably.
 
8:53 PM
why!
 
Ell
gah, stupid thing
 
@kbok Where they manufacture finance?
 
@sehe That would be the finance manufacturing industry.
 
> Financial services are the economic services provided by the finance industry, which encompasses a broad range of organizations that manage money
 
@kbok s/manage/mismanage/ FTFY.
 
8:55 PM
@sehe Industries can produce services instead of goods.
 
F# ftw
 
user1182183
aww shame there is no XNA for VS2012 :> now I cannot kill my time
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's the TL;DR?
 
user1182183
anyone recomends a good openGL tutorial for the very novice suckers?
 
@GamErix You can kill your time pondering whether while(true) is less efficient than for(;;)
 
user1182183
8:59 PM
(which also includes setting up a windows development environment)
 

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