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sbi
6:00 PM
@TonyTheTiger Me, too. I had to stop doing it now, though, since I really need to do some laundry, and I cooked myself a meal. Not much of an achievement for the day (for two, actually), but it does spoil an otherwise almost perfect Sunday. :)
 
@sbi :)
 
@sbi Here's the song I've been talking about ! marxists.org/history/ussr/sounds/mp3/Katyusha.mp3
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I know that one. My Russian is too rusty to understand anything, but if those are the lyrics I got to know the song with then it's a love song: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha_%28song%29. A nice one, indeed, if a bit schmaltzy. :)
 
What's wrong with you germans? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmaltz
this doesn't look nice :(
(Yes, I looked up the word schmaltzy and then had to see what Schmaltz was)
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay According to leo, "schmaltzy" is Yiddish. :)
 
6:21 PM
:)
what's up?
coding?
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I'm not overly fond of it, but it's better than it looks. Once in a while I make some (with salt, onion, and apple), and me and the kids eat it on bread for dinner. We wouldn't want to eat it all the time, but twice or thrice a year it's nice to eat.
@ManofOneWay Usually the sky.
 
@sbi You never get tired of answering like that do you =)
@sbi btw, how old are you? just out of curiosity
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay Oh, I do sometimes. But when I do, I don't answer, and so you don't realize I'm tired of it. :)
@ManofOneWay Older than you.
 
@how much older? =)
 
6:44 PM
I"m tired... meh.
 
@sbi Btw, here's the small clipboard app I'm working on (the one question that DeadMG down voted me on) i54.tinypic.com/33mol7o.png
@sbi It's still far from finished but it's a start
@sbi I think it could be handy if you copy a lot and also if you need something you know you copied a long time ago
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I use a plugin for Visual Studio (Visual Assist) which provides access to earlier clippings. I used it a lot.
 
@sbi Nice, I think it could be useful
 
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Q: Why is beanstalkd hitting 100% CPU usage?

Randall StevensBeanstalkd hit 100% cpu usage. It's not the "too many connections" problem. I double checked. You can no longer connect to the daemon.

Lol.
Some people.
 
6:59 PM
The SO user profile file shows your email address in plain text. Shouldn't there be some obfuscation for anti-spam purposes?
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked It only shows it to yourself. Are you afraid of you spamming yourself?
 
@sbi Ah, I hadn't noticed that.
There's this online service that allows you to send emails to yourself in the future.
That would be one way to spam yourself.
 
You guys ever played Donkey Kong Country 2 ? I just love this song
 
> 10 years ago, I was crushing over a girl in freshman year. She was standing around with mutual friends and I knew her name was Monica, but we had never actually met. I walked up to her and introduced myself, saying: Hi, I'm Monica.
 
7:17 PM
@StackedCrooked haha! I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I do feel sorry for you :)
 
@ManofOneWay It's a quote :)
 
@CatPlusPlus oh lord that was funny
 
@StackedCrooked from where? =)
 
Reddit, most likely.
 
@CatPlusPlus right on (where else?)
 
7:19 PM
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A: Please notify people of the reasons for chat suspension

balphaI agree with this in principle, and have made the following change: From now on, when a user is suspended, the "this user is suspended" message on the user's chat profile will include the reason for the suspension; it's one of these three possible reasons: The user is suspended on the parent si...

 
> In the future, please use flagging for its intended purpose only.
Can I laugh now?
I will laugh anyway.
 
I will flag anyway.
 
I'm too sexy for my shirt
 
@DeadMG Please, no.
 
oh yeah
 
7:24 PM
@DeadMG btw somebody mentioned you in /r/programming
 
probably calling me ignorant, arrogant, misinformed, or something like that
 
He's biased, but not dishonest. He also knows a lot about both languages. DeadMG knows very little about D, but bashes it anyway.
hey, I used to know that guy
 
Proggit is meh.
 
@sbi: We were suspended right about the time I posted that question.
 
7:28 PM
> Want to replace the Standard library? You can.
^How would you replace typeid?
 
that's more about typeid being a language feature in disguise
 
Personally, I don't view standard library being replaceable as a very useful feature.
 
Can you write all the type traits in the new standard without compiler magic?
 
I think that you can do almost all of them
@CatPlusPlus The EASTL did it.
 
@DeadMG Ha! almost.
 
7:30 PM
@MartinhoFernandes Nope.
E.g. the traits for trivial something.
 
see, I really don't get why people disliked my answer to that question so much
maybe I just value different traits to the D community at large?
 
@DeadMG It seems more like a rant than an answer. But I only skimmed it since it flipped the bozo bit on, so I can't honestly say that I 'disliked' it.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked typeid is an operator for which the std lib provide std::type_info. Are you by any chance talking of the latter?
 
well, it definitely started out that way
but I edited it and cleaned it up
 
@StackedCrooked To expand on what sbi said, Boost (sometimes) internally use a type_info knock-off for instance.
And BOOST_WHATEVER_TYPEID (well not exactly but you get the meaning) has to be used instead of typeid, and is for types only, not arbitrary expressions.
 
7:35 PM
decltype() will solve that problem
 
@DeadMG Still won't emulate the behaviour of typeid for polymorphic types.
 
true, you would have to put in a little more work to make that happen
but you still can do it
 
@sbi Yes. If typeid returns a std::type_info object then typeid is a language feature depending on a library feature. This seems like dependency in the wrong direction to me.
 
it absolutely is in the wrong direction
 
sbi
@DeadMG So is new throwing std::bad_alloc then. <shrug/> Get a grip. Be practical.
 
7:46 PM
oh I don't care about that
new is a language feature because and only because you couldn't perfect forward in C++ previous to rvalue references
 
sbi
@Martinho: See my comment here
 
you could trivially make it a library one now
 
Obj-C doesn't have new you must call alloc followed by init (the constructor) yourself. I kind of like this.
 
you're talking obj-c now?
 
Cool you can just provide your own std::type_info : ideone.com/YH8HP
So typeid doesn't hinder replacing std implementation.
 
sbi
7:57 PM
@StackedCrooked I very much doubt that this is guaranteed to compile.
 
It works on GCC on my comp.
@sbi I think it should compile, in order to make stl replacable.
 
@sbi Oh so people have been being banned while offline, so no one noticed it so far.
Seems... pointless
 
You could flag someone while they are offline.
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Yeah, obviously. Indeed, very stupid.
 
Okay, what's the use for flagging, if the response is deferred by hours, if not days, exactly?
Chat is real-time. Nobody remembers what happened an hour ago, let alone day ago.
So it'll be removed from history, boo-hoo, very useful.
 
sbi
8:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus In my case my memory played tricks. My posting only acquired enough flags a day later, so it only was deleted a day later, so I only was suspended a day later.
 
I'm more and more convinced that the entire flagging system is broken, useless shit.
@sbi Yeah, that's the point. Supposedly offensive content has been deleted a day after it's been posted.
At which point, nobody would see it anyway.
Because everyone already did.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Actually, it isn't removed from history. As I have just learned through balpha, it is still there.
 
Oh, even more useful.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Obviously, someone must have seen it and flagged it a day later, or it wouldn't have been deleted then.
 
Ah, it's just not on the transcript, but the history links still work?
WTF?
 
8:05 PM
My point is, moderating real-time chat usually requires real-time response.
 
@MartinhoFernandes only for the room owners and the message owner
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Well, you would need to know the message's ID, since there is no message anymore to link to the history anymore. But, yeah, when you know the message ID of a deleted message, it seems you can still reach its history. :)
@balpha Ah, Ok. Thanks for the clarification.
 
Ah, that makes sense.
So, as a room owner we can see any deleted message.
 
sbi
BTW, how did you get here, @balpha? Did someone flag something for moderation, or was it just a creeping suspicion that we might talk about you? :)
 
So, since that UserJS thingy remembers IDs, I can now look into your deleted messages. Har har.
 
8:08 PM
@sbi it wasn't a creeping suspicion, I was totally certain you'd be :)
 
Maybe the fact that we can see deleted messages should go in the newbie hints.
 
No, no, it'll be funnier if nobody knows.
We broke the chat.
Boo.
 
sbi
8:23 PM
@MartinhoFernandes I'd rather not advertise that.
@MartinhoFernandes I'd rather not advertise that.
Wow, does it now post the messages which I thought were lost?
 
I see two "I'd rather not advertise that."
 
sbi
2 mins ago, by sbi
Wow, does it now post the messages which I thought were lost?
 
hehe, sbi is a two-timer.
 
Yeah, and that, obviously.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Actually, I'm a twelve-to-six'er.
 
two perfect halves
 
I have Pacman.
Anyway, @balpha, my proposal: replace global flagging with local moderation (deletion power to the room owners).
And I'm not saying that just because I'm a room owner. :P
 
@MartinhoFernandes Did it get it right?
 
I don't think so.
 
sbi
8:38 PM
@MartinhoFernandes "If your sleep chart appears way off the mark, please ensure that you have specified the correct time zone in your Twitter account settings."
 
I either go to sleep: 1) around midnight, 2) 7AM, 3) 7PM.
Depends on what's happening the following day.
 
Funny, I either get up at midnight, 7AM or 7PM.
And I'm not too sure about Englishness of that construct.
 
The hell with Englishness.
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Uh oh. Now you have called The Wrath of the Puppy down on you!
Goodbye. We will remember you in as a fine lad.
 
user457812
I'm an English major, and I say screw the English!
 
user457812
8:44 PM
It's all completely absurd
 
@sbi Don't fink so :P
 
@sbi What? I can get offed for saying that?
 
sbi
This chat is still quite wacky. It takes like 15secs for some messages to get through.
 
@MartinhoFernandes You can, but I can't be bothered
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Do not underestimate the puppy!
 
8:44 PM
@DeadMG I think that's your connection. Everything seems fine around here.
 
@nil The English what?
 
user457812
The only exception is that if you mistake "it's" and "its" too often, the Krampus will steal you away in the night and torture you for all eternity
 
NOBODY expects the English Inquisition!
 
Even the English Inquisition.
 
user457812
8:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus The English.
 
@nil All of them?
 
user457812
All of them. Even the children. Especially their pet rocks.
 
Now that's illegal.
 
Now you're pushing it.
 
sbi
@nil You're an English major? Well, I'm colonel, so step back in line!
 
8:47 PM
You are?
 
I'm a semicolonel.
3
 
user457812
It was colonel sbi with the chain of command in the chatroom.
 
No, the chain was for something else.
 
user457812
It's a repurposed chain - recycling is important.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Don't matter.
 
8:48 PM
Don't antimatter, too.
Ah, sorry, I've seem to have drifted off a bit.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, you're off center.
 
Oh man, I don't like reinventing wheels, but this cpp-netlib takes forever to compile. I hate header-only stuff.
 
@MartinhoFernandes What are you developing?
 
Anyone knows some C++ HTTP client library that doesn't slow down my compilation infinitely?
@ManofOneWay A BitTorrent client.
 
@MartinhoFernandes Why are you making it in C++?
 
9:01 PM
I only need the HTTP to send one GET request to a tracker and get the response.
@ManofOneWay I'm learning C++ with it.
 
@MartinhoFernandes I see
 
there's a Windows lib for it based on COM
can't recall what it's called, but there is one
 
I rather it was portable. Besides, I'm on Linux.
 
WinINet.
 
not that
 
9:02 PM
@MartinhoFernandes curl (I'm not sure if it is C++ though). I use the Poco Net libraries, but that could slow down your compilation, being a large lib.
 
@MartinhoFernandes cpp-netlib.github.com
 
@ManofOneWay That's what I'm using.
 
@MartinhoFernandes Different approach: have you tried precompiling the header?
 
@MartinhoFernandes Sry, haven't been reading the chat =)
 
Doesn't asio have HTTP client?
 
9:03 PM
or just include it in a single .cpp file, and expose a few wrapper functions only, so the entire lib doesn't have to be recompiled for each translation unit?
 
@jalf that's what I was thinking (pimpl)
 
Well, if you only want to make a tracker request, then you don't really need full-blown HTTP client.
 
That's what I was thinking.
I think I might just build the request by hand, and send it with asio through TCP.
 
Though AFAIR BitTorrent uses HTTP bit more than that.
 
@CatPlusPlus No, it doesn't.
 
9:05 PM
There's web seeding.
 
That's an extension.
 
I don't remember how scrape works.
 
@CatPlusPlus Simple HTTP GET.
 
Never really been interested in implementing BT.
 
The request will always be the same, the only change is the URL.
Screw it, I'm going with NIH.
 
9:08 PM
evening y'all
 
what's new?
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger An operator.
 
Image analysis is really advanced these days youtube.com/watch?v=KUFkb0d1kbU&t=8s
 
@sbi why does that crack me up everytime?
 
9:11 PM
I want the "uncrop" feature!
 
@StackedCrooked I've already posted that several times. :P Red Dwarf is awesome, the film bit less, but still.
 
I also like the part where they get stuff out of the reflections on Rimmer's head.
 
hahah interesting ways
 
Given that he is an hologram and all that.
 
9:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus just discovered it
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger How am I to know?
 
It's amazing how Red Dwarf is the only futuristic thing I've seen where the holograms don't have crappy quality, like Star Wars.
:)
 
@sbi you're not really... It's probably because I'm sad that that makes me laugh each time. haha
 
Meh, the new One Piece episode is only available in 360p on Sunday. I have to wait until Monday for the 720p, but I don't have the discipline for that.
Life in the first world can be hard.
 
9:18 PM
gross
 
interesting design :)
 
It would be really embarrassing if a nerdy guy used it thinking it is a cool design while not knowing what it really it.
 
hehe yea
 
@StackedCrooked Watch it.
 
Tony The Tiger I see you found a present for my birthday :D
 
9:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus I started downloading it. However, I may not have used the best torrent..
 
@legion huh?
 
We'll see.
 
That tampax :D
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Where did you dig this ou... Oh. Never mind.
 
@sbi reddit/r/funny
woa I'm glad I never tried this
 
sbi
9:25 PM
Damn. Can you all please keep adding messages, so this scrolls out my browser window? That constant movement is getting on my nerves.
Ah. Apparently, Escape makes FF stop animating it.
 
user457812
I can't..
 
user457812
stop..
 
user457812
watching it...
 
user457812
It's hypnotic.
 
9:26 PM
lol
haha
is that better? No more moving pictures
 
sbi
How is this not a real question? Am I missing something?
 
I upvoted your answer
donno why that isn't a real question
some people are just weird I guess
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I'd rather you vote for reopen.
 
@sbi I did that too
I got a message saying something about not having upvoted in a while, when I upvoted your answer, ever seen such a message?
was too fast for me tor read the entire thing
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Yeah. It says you haven't voted on questions for a while.
 
9:33 PM
@sbi what's the point of that message? To annoy me? I fail to see it's purpose, except for pointing out what I already know
 
I very rarely vote on questions
and it's usually down
 
@TonyTheTiger To encourage (i.e. bug) people enough that they upvote questions.
 
you pessimist
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Increase voting on questions. Apparently, questions aren't voted on enough, so they put this in to remind us.
 
wtf
that's annoying
maybe we should all randomly go upvote some questions, to piss em off?
/me feeling evil tonight
Slacktivism (sometimes slactivism) is a portmanteau formed out of the words slacker and activism. The word is usually considered a pejorative term that describes "feel-good" measures, in support of an issue or social cause, that have little or no practical effect other than to make the person doing it feel satisfaction. The acts tend to require minimal personal effort from the slacktivist. Slacktivist activities include signing Internet petitions, joining a community organization without contributing to the organization's efforts, copying and pasting of Social Network statuses or messages...
didn't know it existed
 
9:37 PM
Oh, it has a name.
 
yea slacktivism
 
That thing pisses me off. It's nice to have a name for it.
 
oh good
is the internet really full of douchebags and morons?
 
You're new to this, aren't you?
2
 
9:39 PM
@TonyTheTiger Do you expect the nice and quiet people to make headlines?
 
The world is full of douchebags and morons, why would Internet be any different. It's all the same people.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, your answer really just proves it.
 
@sbi Proves it how? :P
 
It just kind of baffles me that people wanna be douchebags
or are these people just naturally douchebags?!
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Because it's a mischievous answer.
 
9:41 PM
homo douchebagius
 
2 mins ago, by Martinho Fernandes
You're new to this, aren't you?
huh?
I'm not new to this
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Well, your question suggested otherwise.
 
@sbi yea well sometimes things baffle me so much I have to question it
it's like an 'omg I can't believe it" type question
 
@sbi No, it's just a statement of a fact. I don't see how is that "1. Causing mischief. 2. Playful in a naughty or teasing way. 3. Troublesome; irritating: a mischievous prank. 4. Causing harm, injury, or damage: mischievous rumors and falsehoods."
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus You're such a douchebag.
 
9:43 PM
>If you're already intelligent, then the internet can be used to expand your knowledge and learn about anything you care to. If you are ignorant, then the internet will only reinforce your ignorance.
I guess that says it all :)
 
Oh, duh that's an example of usage.
 
@sbi :(
 
What should you do if you come across a tiger in the jungle? Wipe him off, apologise and run!
The sign said pet food. So I did.
 
What's that g++/ld flag to show the paths of the libraries being linked?
 
-H
or -h
Oh wait! libraries.
Unfortunately I can't remember that off-hand and my manpage is broken.
 
9:58 PM
Nevermind, I used ldconfig, and there is only one libboost_system around.
Then I used nm and the symbol the compiler keeps complaining about is there!
I'm completely at a loss.
 

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