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1:20 AM
This is my first chat here.
What is this all about ?
Could anyone tell me how to use the Chat Usefully ?
 
hello
you just chat. about random shit. hopefully related to topics that the rest of us find interesting
but, at least in this room, the chat doesn't strictly have to be about C++
 
rlc
usually, it's more or less related to something that's more or less related to C++ ;-)
sometimes, we stray from our off-topic ways and really discuss C++ with zealous furor
 
if we stayed on just C++, it would be boring :)
 
rlc
the furor can get to the point that we're all waving our Standards around (sometimes all three versions at once)
but usually, someone brings up something blissfully off-topic by that time
 
1:39 AM
sex, or language/religious/political flamewars work well
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rlc
@DeadMG I was hoping someone else would mention that ;-)
someone other than myself, that is
thx :-D
 
lol
 
Haha
 
@Legolas First and foremost, realize that "usefully" mostly misses the point of chat. The intent of chatting isn't necessarily to be useful.
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rlc
@JerryCoffin that doesn't mean it's never useful, though
we do sometimes have constructive and useful discussions
 
1:55 AM
@rlc As an accidental side effect I guess being useful isn't necessarily a horrible thing, but definitely should not be encouraged... :-)
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rlc
:-D
say, do you guys think that if I explain lambda expressions to n00bs, they'll understand what I mean with "an empty capture set"?
 
only if you explain capturing first
 
rlc
@DeadMG I have like a brief overview, but I don't go into much detail
 
2:10 AM
the idea of capturing nothing is pretty basic, so I think they'll get it after little introduction
 
rlc
by way of introduction, I have a C++03 functor that does a lot more than the example lambda expression, and I explain what a lambda expression that does the same thing as the functor would look like..
I guess they'll be OK
 
@rlc you mean c++ n00bs that already know a lisp, like js?
 
rlc
@FredNurk no, C++ n00bs that, a few months ago, didn't know how to program at all
 
your tacit evasion of my flamewar instigation is noted :(
 
rlc
I do expect them to learn quickly :-)
huh?
was that a flame?
 
2:16 AM
36 mins ago, by DeadMG
sex, or language/religious/political flamewars work well
 
rlc
if so, check your flame thrower
 
I wasn't flaming you, I was trolling :P (but only half-seriously, either way)
 
rlc
:-D
 
I wouldn't expect people that new to programming as a whole to understand closures
 
rlc
well, they'll have had at least 30 previous lessons
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2:19 AM
but a functor object that manually keeps data members should provide a good path for them to understand
 
rlc
functional style is the 30th
 
2:37 AM
argh
hurry up internets, download faster
 
rlc
2:49 AM
g'night :-)
 
 
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sbi
5:28 AM
@FredNurk Pah! I haven't lived in a household with a TV for >20 years now. I sometimes think about whether I should equip myself at least with the minimal means to watch TV once in a while (like some TV stick), in order to see the news or watch a football (soccer) match, but whenever I get to watch TV (about twice a year when I'm visiting somewhere), then that enforces my opinion that the disadvantages greatly outweigh the advantages.
@rlc IME, when teaching C++, you'll have to come back revisiting the same topics again and again, on a higher level each time. C++ is too complex, and the different areas all depend on each other to much, in order to teach them systematically.
For example: In order to fully teach dynamic memory allocation, your students will need to know about exceptions. However, in order to fully learn about exceptions, they'll need to know about polymorphism. And I haven't found a useful way to teach polymorphism without also introducing dynamic allocation.
Anyway, what I was trying to hint at: I'd probably (never had to) first teach lambda functions without mentioning capturing, and introduce the topic only afterwards, when they have gained some ground.
Oh, and you might find this interesting:
Herb Sutter's talk on C++ lambdas @ NWCPP video: http://vimeo.com/23975522, slides: http://www.nwcpp.org/images/stories/lambda.pdf
 
 
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6:36 AM
@sbi could always pop out to the pub to watch matches, good excuse for a pint :)
@sbi The problem with using C++ ... is that there's already a strong tendency in the language to require you to know everything before you can do anything. -- Larry Wall
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sbi
7:00 AM
@FredNurk I don't bother with excuses for having a pint. :)
@FredNurk To some extend that's true. However, while I agree that it takes more pushing, you can teach C++ so that students are able to write simple programs almost from the go. Koenig/Moo have taught me the trick, and I have since performed it on many occasions.
 
sbi
7:12 AM
This is a dupe in need of close votes: stackoverflow.com/q/5459759/140719
 
@sbi I don't know the pedigree of that quote, but I strongly suspect it's older than AC++, for what that's worth
 
how does inverse sorting work?
 
@sbi Oh no -- a true cabal at work!
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Huh?
 
@sbi all 5 closers are from this room, almost like we had a nefarious purpose :P
"so, guys, what shall we close today?"
 
7:26 AM
@sbi you did get the accepted answer though...
 
sbi
@FredNurk Ah, I see. Well, I got 35 rep out of answering that one, so I guess it's hard to accuse me being a conspirator against it.
 
why close it if it was already fully answered and accepted?
 
close dupes as dupes, no matter how old they are
 
@sbi accusing you of being a repwhore :P :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Because it's a dupe?
 
7:28 AM
@TonyTheTiger here's an old dupe recently closed: stackoverflow.com/questions/204841/…
'course, it didn't help that question that the highest-voted & accepted answer was just a link to the other...
 
@sbi oh ok, didn't think it mattered after that...
but I was wrong it seems
@FredNurk easy rep
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Ha! I have, just this week, actually been looking out for questions I could answer (rather than stumbling into them) for the first time in what I believe have been months. If you look at my activity page, you'll see that I'm mostly commenting nowadays, and that my answers are few and very far between.
 
@TonyTheTiger closing dupes 1) provides a link for anyone finding through that question, and 2) directs people on where to put updates, new answers, etc.
@TonyTheTiger actually, I don't think anyone could add comments in oct '08, so that was the only way to include a link besides closing, and people were still figuring out what closing meant
 
@sbi I was merely kidding with ya, but cool, you've been on a hunt again :)
@FredNurk oh ok
 
what are you people going to close ?
and why ?
 
7:32 AM
@Miss see sbi's remark with "dupe" above
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Closing questions as duplicates isn't just a way to prevent you from getting rep on it, it's a tool to prevent the site from being flooded with identical questions with answers of wildly varying degrees of sophistication.
 
hm well i am going to post an question ... so lets talk latter ...
 
@sbi yea, I guess I hadn't thought that far yet.... it's still early morning :P
 
@sbi I'd be more worried about quality than sophistication. A good answer isn't necessarily sophisticated.
 
@TonyTheTiger: and somehow I forgot to mention just now that links incoming to a question do figure into the site's metrics. I either forgot how or it wasn't mentioned, but I could see it being useful to add search terms from duplicate questions to aid in gauging relevancy
 
7:37 AM
@frednurk: do you know about inverse sort ?
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin (Just a matter of me being a furriner and picking the wrong word.)
 
@Miss never heard of it
 
yes me too.
actually i have function whose ' working looks like insertion sort ..
but function name is written "inverse sort"
so i am not sure for that function. ..
 
@sbi I guess under the circumstances, making rather unsophisticated use of English has a kind of poetic justice to it. :-)
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Maybe I haven't slept enough, but that one went over my head... :(
 
7:43 AM
@sbi Probably just a mediocre attempt at humor on my part.
 
7:59 AM
Good morning.
 
morning
 
8:24 AM
Question "The Eternal Question". Close button with no indication of vote to close. Click on it: already one vote. Select "subjective". That's reload the question with 3 votes. Reload the C++ tag page, question closed.
 
sbi
@AProgrammer ???
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Oink.
 
@sbi Sean wants some voices for the Berlin meetup. You coming? What about @Xeo?
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph @Xeo is a sissy and won't come. I plan on coming. Had we decided on a place yet?
 
8:34 AM
Prater
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Oh, nice!
 
But since the weather … isn’t playing fair …
 
sbi
Only, I think it will be raining tonight.
I think you can sit inside there, too, but it's far less room, so we might not fit.
 
at the moment there would be only five people, maybe six
so that shouldn’t be a problem
if all else fails, there is enough backup
 
I ain't gonna make it :(
 
sbi
8:37 AM
@Tony, didn't you want to come, too??
 
@Tony damn, that’s a shame :(
 
hi alll
 
@sbi I did want to come
it's rather expensive for one evening at the moment
I'll come visit Berlin for a weekend sometime and then whomever that lives there and wants to go have a beer with me, we can do that
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I can understand that. (If you want, you can stay with me, though. That could at least save you the hotel/hostel costs.)
 
mm, I'd like to visit europe some day
doubt that will be soon though :(
 
8:42 AM
Imma do a eurotrip too
 
@FredNurk I'm visiting the US soon :)
 
oh, where at?
 
Los Angeles
 
never been there, sounds like fun
 
it sure was last time i was there :)
@sbi very nice offer of you... flights a 156 euro, return... ugh
to Berlin (Schoenefeld), wherever that is?
 
sbi
8:45 AM
@TonyTheTiger South of Berlin. Might be half an hour by city train to where we meet.
@TonyTheTiger Where do you come from again?
 
@sbi Brussels
 
hi all ,whats up ?
 
flight is mid afternoon
saturday
 
@Miss you tell us
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger There's bus´services, if you're hardy: berlinlinienbus.de That one seems to charge €57 for one way on a Sat.
 
8:52 AM
@reno: nothing special ...
 
@sbi oh nice :P but unless you wanna be stuck with me, I'll need a two way. hahah :)
shit, I just realized it's friday
oops
thought it was Thursday today
lol
 
And how is that bad?
 
Rebecca made it bad for everyone. forever
 
@MartinhoFernandes cause it means, if I wanna go Berlin, it's already tomorrow, instead of the day after
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Yeah, I just checked. You can't book anything for this weekend, so I checked for the next weekend. Leaving Fri 1300 Gare du Nord, arriving Sat 0915 in Berlin, going back Sun 1900 Berlin, being back Mon 0545 GdN, costs 102. I'm not sure saving €54 is worth the discomfort, though.
 
8:56 AM
Is shit a bad word?
 
:D that is a poopy word
 
@sbi no it's not, then I might as well hop on a flight and come tomorrow... if I could just make up my mind :P
 
@reno: i like that .. poopy..
 
sbi
@Miss Pervert! :)
 
If I'm right there is an overnight train
from Brussels are 23:41 and arrives at 8:20
 
sbi
9:00 AM
@Reno That might be somewhat better in comfort, but is likely much more expensive than the bus. In fact, it might even be more expensive than the flight.
 
heheh @reno nice ,.. so when are you going for a long night..
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Well, you have until about 3pm Berlin time to reach me here.
 
Ah I see. anyway here is the link
 
sbi
@Reno How on earth do you know this from Texas?
 
@sbi google and I wait I'm in korea right now
 
9:03 AM
@sbi one more question, would you be able to meet me around 4 or whenever I arrive, I kinda don't wanna have to hang around in a city until we have the eve meeting...
 
@Miss long night ... um I the winters I guess
 
@reno: :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Well, I plan on being in my garden by that time, but you'd be very welcome to a BBQ. :)
@Reno So you're a Texan in Korea, and just googled the train from Bruxelles to Berlin to help us Europeans to get together? Wow. I'm impressed.
 
@sbi ok sure :) As long as I can find your garden... hahah
 
what about c++ sex.. how is it going on>?
 
9:08 AM
I've got to edit my profile I'm not Texan. I was in Nashville a while a ago. Oh yeah I'm happy to help :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I could give you exact instruction. But. When you'd arrive 1600 at SFX, you'd need at least an hour to my garden. Since the meetup is at 2000, and we'd need 20mins to walk to my apartment (I would need a shower), and another 30mins to the Prater, we should leave at 1900. That would give us two hours to relax and eat. I'm not sure that's worth the hassle.
 
@reno : your age is 16... heheh lie ..
 
@Miss what makes you think so?
 
btw, your profile pic is nice. .
 
well thank you a friend of mine from deviant art did it for me.
 
9:13 AM
@sbi so what do you suggest I'd do then, go straight to that place from the airport?
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I dunno. @Konrad, could you give a shelter to the tiger for a few hours Sat afternoon? I think you're living in P'berg, right? It'd be a lot of hassle for little gain for him to come to me to Pankow.
 
@reno: wow thats prertty good ..
 
9:28 AM
@sbi I don't mind really...
 
@sbi Yes, possible
 
@reno: i can't say you age.. but i can say that you are not in 16..
 
@sbi @Tony Sorry, I’m currently not at the computer but we can talk later. Either way, if Tony needs shelter on saturday, that can be arranged. I’ll be off now
 
ok i want to leave from here ...hheeh funny
 
@Miss yep you are right I'm actually 14
 
9:30 AM
@KonradRudolph ok sure :)
 
cya~
 
stil i do't believe .. anyways good luck with your age ..
see ya good bye from c++ chat room..
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger You could always come to my garden, but it's like an hour from Schönefeld, you'd pass by the meetup place (and @Konrad, who lives in the vicinity) after two thirds of the journey, and we barely have time to say hi and gobble something down before we have to leave.
You can still stay with me, though. (Although I do have something to do on Sun morning (about 10-12), so you would have to breakfast with my teenage daughter. :) She speaks pretty good English, though, so you don't have to stress your German after having had to much beer the night before.)
When would your fly back go on Sun?
 
@sbi Flight back is 11:25
so I'd be long gone before I can interrupt the rest of your Sunday
@sbi I don't mind speaking some German, good practice :)
 
9:52 AM
I’m back
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Oh, that's early! And you likely have to be there an hour earlier, right? Ok. Well, my daughter just called to tell me she'll at a friend's birthday party tomorrow and will also sleep there, so it's just the two of us. I need to leave at about 09:30 tomorrow, which is pretty much the time you need to leave if you want to be in Schönefeld at ~10:30, so we could have breakfast together before you leave. What do you think? Would that work out for you?
@KonradRudolph @Tony said he'd be in Berlin at about 4pm, and the meetup is at 8pm, so he has 4hrs to kill. (Though he might be landing at 4pm, which would make him be in P'berg at around 5pm.)
 
@sbi I'm not difficult... Should be fine... so I'm just booking my flight now
 
sbi
@Konrad: I offered to shelter @Tony until the meetup, but I'll be in my garden (Schönholz), and it would take him even longer to get there, and he'd pass by the Prater (and, IIRC, your place). That wouldn't make much sense. So maybe you two can arrange something?
 
@sbi @Tony If the plane arrives at 4 then you’ll take almost exactly 1h to get to my place
the advantage: you don’t have to change trains (if you’re lucky), you can just mount the train at the airport and get off at my stop ;)
so Tony would probably arrive around 5 at my place
so we would have three hours to kill … seems reasonable ;)
 
@KonradRudolph seems o#k
 
sbi
10:03 AM
@TonyTheTiger Ok. So you stay with @Konrad in the afternoon, we meet at the meetup, you're coming with me afterwards, and we'll leave together. And I don't have to get up early the Sun after the meetup all alone. Sounds good to me. :)
 
ok guys, plane is booked! :)
@sbi :)
 
cool
@Tony so you’ll be needing directions to my place?
 
sbi
@Tony & @Konrad Will you find a way to setup meeting each other?
 
I’d prefer not giving them away in a public chat ;)
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph That's why I asked. I once found an email address of you somewhere online, and I do have @Tony's.
 
10:08 AM
@sbi if you could mail my email to @KonradRudolph if you have his email, I'd appreciate :)
 
@sbi Do as @Tony says. Thanks. ;-)
 
pretty insane to take a flight for a beer, should be worth it though :)
 
sbi
10:22 AM
@KonradRudolph Sent it to madrat.
 
Fun fact: madr.at also works ;)
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger You wouldn't want to come from Belgium for beer. You come for socializing. :)
@KonradRudolph :)
Please let me know before 3pm whether you've found each other. (Preferably here in the chat, my sbi@... address is strongly filtered.)
 
Really great answer by Nawaz here. stackoverflow.com/questions/6060824/…
 
@sbi hehe :)
 
11:09 AM
Hi there.
When a function returns a reference to a temporary, is it just UB if the reference is actually attempted to be used or is the whole code ill-formed?
 
@wilx is that a temporary created inside the function?
 
pretty sure that it's only UB if you attempt to use the reference
it's a dangling reference/pointer just like any other
 
11:25 AM
Tony The Tiger: Yes.
 
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Q: Global variable inside multiple classes

JohnnyLet's say I have something like this: <?php namespace Twitter; class Twitter { function __construct() { $config = array ('api' => 'something', 'api_url' => 'something2'); } // some code goes here } class TwitterConnection { ...

Bets on how longs till someone posts a singleton are open.
 
And another one, does std::remove_if() have defined semantics for std::set?
 
I say before the question is 5 minutes old.
 
Hmm, SGI's STL docs says "ForwardIterator is mutable."
That means it won't work on that.
I am baffled how many invalid things do compile in VS2005.
 
sbi
@DeadMG There might be differences between pointers and references, though. References aren't supposed to be dangling.
@wilx No, because it needs to copy elements, for which it needs a sequential container. Associative containers have some of these algorithms as member functions, though.
 
 
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sbi
12:35 PM
@Konrad, @Tony Are you setup and communicating? I'll be offline pretty soon, and probably won't be able to react until late in the night.
 
1:11 PM
@wilx If a function returns a local variable as a const reference then its lifetime can be extended if the caller binds the return value to a const reference.
 
@sbi yea we're all good :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Ok, thanks!
 
@sbi Sorry, was off. Yes, we are communicating, everything’s set
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked I the question was about returning references to a local automatic objects, not about returning automatic objects.
 
@sbi What is the difference between a local automatic object and an automatic object?
 
1:21 PM
@StackedCrooked I think he means one is local to the function and the other not
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Yep, indeed.
@StackedCrooked The difference is between returning an automatic object and returning a reference to one.
The latter is bad if the object is out of scope when you try to access it through the reference.
 
"C++0x is dead, long live C++11"?
Has the international ballot ended already?
 
@sbi automatic object == stack allocated object? (as in the old meaning of the auto keyword?)
 
sbi
@wilx Yeah, that room motto is kinda old already. Several days. We should change that. Any idea anyone?
 
Cool.
I assume it has been accepted?
 
rlc
1:25 PM
@sbi "Patiently awaiting C++1x" ?
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Yeah. Also I was referring to an rvalue returned from a function as "automatic object", probably wrongly.
 
"C++11 is out, what are we going to bitch about now?"
 
sbi
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Q: When will C++0x be finished?

Howard HinnantOk, this is the first question I've asked and I didn't know you couldn't answer your own question. Answer: March 25, 2011. :-) I'm not kidding, it's official. Well, at least as far as the committee is concerned.

 
@wilx not yet, but it is generally considered a formality. There's very little reason why anyone would vote against it
 
rlc
@sbi AFAIK, it won't be C++11 until it's approved by ISO, which might take until 2012 still
I'm calling it C++1{1,2,3}
 
sbi
1:28 PM
@rlc Voting is scheduled for September, IIRC.
This year.
 
rlc
@sbi schedules change... ;-)
 
Cool.
 
@rlc afaik, the official name goes by the year the standard was finalized though, regardless of when it is approved by ISO, so it'd be C++11 even then
 
sbi
BTW, @rlc, did you see my reply to you: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/746276#746276?
Anyway, gotta go. See you guys.
 
rlc
@sbi yes, and I agree
 
1:30 PM
@rlc I think once a ballot has been scheduled in ISO, that schedule is unlikely to change ;)
 
rlc
I've been talking about RAII for almost every installment since I first introduced it
now I'll be talking about functional programming for a while
 
that's the advantage of huge bureaucratic organizations. ;)
 
rlc
@jalf well, I'll resign myself to calling it c++11 when the vote's passed - but no sooner
:D
IMO, there are bugs in FDIS that should be fixed
but I guess a TR could do that
 
@rlc well, they won't be this time around
hence the F in FDIS
 
rlc
;-(
 
1:32 PM
and so far, the consensus seems to be that there are fewer, and less significant, bugs than there were in C++98
 
rlc
@jalf I just hope it won't take 5 years to fix them
 
we'll see :)
 
1:44 PM
@rlc Fixing of identified problems has already started. The publication of the fixes in another form than DR answers will probably wait 5 years due to ISO process.
(and I'm not sure if "editorial fixes" can be applied or not. ISTR that there were some difference between the latest FDIS and the standard for C++98).
 
2:00 PM
Should the C++3xxx tag be synonymous with the C++0x tag?
 
@Xaade What tag is that?
 
@Xaade Is that when they finally add quantum bogosort to the stdlib?
 
2:18 PM
@rlc Have you posted them to comp.std.c++? If you prefer not to, I'll be happy to -- despite FDIS status, clear bugs can still be fixed (though, of course, they might not get fixed if others disagree about whether they're clearly bugs).
 
I predict that C++ will last for another 10 years. I also predict that 10 years from now, I'll predict that C++ will last for another 10 years. Etc...
C++ will last forever..
 
@jalf Not so -- it's (what they intend to be) the last draft, but things can still be fixed if they're clearly wrong. Unless I'm badly mistaken, there are still some actions approved at the last meeting that are still being applied.
 
2:32 PM
@JerryCoffin afaik, those were applied before the FDIS was created. That's why it was released a number of weeks after the meeting
the FDIS was the result of everything that was voted in at the last meeting
 
rlc
@JerryCoffin It's @FredN that found the bug I was thinking about. I've suggested the same thing (that he post it to csc++) I don't know if he's done that yet
 
as I understand it, all the changes that can be made are non-C++-specific procedural changes and formalities to make sure it follows ISO's rules
 
0
Q: Why is the default value of the TCPClient's ReceiveBufferSize is 8192?

the_drowAccording to the MSDN docs the ReceiveBufferSize defaults to 8192. I checked and it's not a result of a power of two which makes sense when using buffers. Is there a special reason? Maybe due to the fact that there is some extra overhead with TCP?

 
@rlc:hi
 
He checked.
 
2:37 PM
Did you ever work with image processing ?
 
rlc
@MartinhoFernandes 8192 == 8K
I don't see how that is such a weird number?
@Miss yes, for five years, in fact - but not on the vision team
 
hmm well i coded up max filter for removing the salt from noisy image..
but i did not get the result according to my study ..
i am not satisfy with my result.. i hope you know about max and mini filter
right
let me show you my max filter result
 
hi
 
as i know max filter spread the brightness and prominent the dark parts
and in my case, result looks to me opposite ...
what do you think @rlc:
 
rlc
@Miss I think you have a bug
 
2:44 PM
ahh you mean max filter result is not right ...
 
@rlc Yes everything is a multiple of 2. Well... half of everything.
 
i think my program spread the dark region and white parts are prominent...
@xaade: what do you mean?
 
rlc
@Xaade not everything is a power of 2 though
but 8K is
 
Actually the amount of numbers that are a power of 2 out of all positive integers would be, 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... 1/8192 + ...

Oddly enough, it's the result of the sum of 1/2^n { n = 0 - inf.
 
@Xaade The sum of 1/2^n forall n in [1, inf] (if that's what your notation mean) is 2.
Somehow that seems wrong.
 
rlc
2:54 PM
@MartinhoFernandes yes
that would either mean there are two times as many powers of two than there are positive integers, or that there are two powers of two (depending on how you interpret "the amount of..."
neither of which hold water
 
There are as many integral powers of 2 as there are integer numbers.
 
rlc
@MartinhoFernandes if you mean to say that there is both an infinite amount of integral powers of two and an infinite amount of positive integers, you're right, but inf == inf doesn't necessarily hold
in this case, the proportion of integral powers of two w.r.t. the number of positive integers nears 0
 
@rlc No, I meant to say exactly that. There are as many. It is the same "amount of infinity", if you want.
 
There are as many integers than there are element in any infinite subset of integers.
 
Because I can define a one-to-one mapping between integral powers of two and integers.
 
rlc
2:58 PM
@MartinhoFernandes that, you can
 
In math terms #Z = #{2^n, forall n in Z}.
 
rlc
i gotta go though
cu l8er
 

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