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9:22 PM
@sbi There are a few people I wouldn't mind sending to a Jerk Exchange...
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Of course, this morning I was in one comment exchange called: nonsensical, silly, illogical, incorrect, stupid, dense, foolish, little, and very little.
(Some of those things are probably true, but hopefully not all of them, at least not all at once :-D)
 
what famous c++ ppl use twitter?
 
@JamesMcNellis, Redmond, WA
C++ Enthusiast. Developer at Microsoft working on Expression Blend. Stack Overflow Fanatic.
38 tweets, 30 followers, following 117 users
 
9:36 PM
If you look through the list of people that I follow, there are a lot of "famous" C++ people on there.
 
Everyone that I've found, at least.
 
martin fowler. sounds famous. isn't that some book author?
 
He wrote Refactoring
 
9:39 PM
I think most of the C++ people are at the bottom. I originally joined Twitter to follow C++ experts, so I followed most of them when I first joined.
 
what is a "fowler" in english?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb he wrote code complete too, iirc.
 
@AlfPSteinbach A bird hunter.
@jweyrich That was Steve McConnell
 
code complete is by Steve McConnel
 
@jweyrich no, but i always confuse him with the anti-pattern guys, don't know why
 
9:40 PM
@JamesMcNellis ahhh yeah.
 
ah i think i confused martin with michael sipser
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Sipser's book is excellent. I don't think I would have understood any of my theory of computation class without that book.
 
@AlfPSteinbach lol
ah, I confused with Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture. Got this book two days ago, but I didn't like :P
 
@James indeed i like it too
damn why is litb already used on twitter :(
 
@JohannesSchaublitb may I hack it for food? Strudel? lol
 
9:45 PM
lol
 
Maybe it's another Leave it to Beaver fan (that's what Wikipedia thinks litb means, at least: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LITB)
 
Damn you, @James, after visiting your Twitter profile I’m now following lots more people
I can’t even handle the people I’m following now …
 
@KonradRudolph I'm kind of sorry I follow as many people as I do... I can't keep up with just the ones on my list.
 
Just started studies on silverlight, wpf, wcf, xaml, etc. Too much to learn. @JamesMcNellis any advice?
 
i always find it disconcerting when someone follows me
i think it's impolite to follow people
 
even if they're chirping and twittering (could be interesting, i guess)
 
That's the book that everyone here recommends. I read pieces of it trying to come up to speed. It's pretty good. MSDN is obviously very useful and actually has pretty good walkthroughs and examples for XAML stuff.
 
Note to everybody: I gave up on teaching myself WPF when I discovered that Microsoft's XML-editor, just a text editor, required minimum 512 MB RAM.
 
@JamesMcNellis tyvm! Everything leads me to believe I'm going to work C# next.
 
@jweyrich It's probably a good idea to learn the basics of C# before digging really far into XAML. I'm not sure, though; I kind of dove into everything all at once, ha ha.
 
9:57 PM
ah
if you can stomach C++, the basics of C# are a snooze cruise
 
I think Mozilla's XUL is good alternative to Microsoft XAML. I would like XUL to become international standard. It's very cool.
(I'm being contrary, I need more coffee)
 
@JamesMcNellis I have about 3-4 weeks of experience (wow! haha) - played with ASP.NET MVC (v1), NHibernate, LINQ, etc. But I do programming for ~10 years now, so I believe this won't scare me. I loved extension methods and delegates. Wrote a LINQ extension to accept string for ordering. E.g.: ?orderBy=property1.subproperty. LINQ only accepted lambdas at the time - not sure it changed.
@DeadMG yeah. Mainly if you have previous experience with Java. Everything is easier then.
See @sbi... people are really converting me to the dark side.
 
Is Joshua on to something here?
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A: Ways to detect whether a C++ virtual function has been redefined in a derived class

Joshuaif (this->myFunction != MyEquation::myFunction) { // overridden }

 
10:14 PM
mozilla xul looks ugly imo
 
@JohannesSchaublitb in everyone's opinion, actually.
 
@JohnDibling No. You can only make a pointer to member function with & classname :: member.
 
@Charles, right, but look past the actual syntax. Does the idea work?
 
@JohnDibling no
 
@Alf because you can't get this's member function address?
 
10:16 PM
@JohnDibling but i wouldn't be surprised if the only totally incorrect answer so far is selected as "the solution"
@JohnDibling because you don't get the machine code level address. you would get a pointer-like thing that can be used to call function virtually
 
the spec requires a & to appear before a naked qualified id refering to a member function, in case the function isnt immediately called
 
hm
that's kinda a bummer
 
@JohnDibling And & Base :: virtualmember has to work polymorphically. So it can have exactly the same value as & Derived :: virtualmember .
 
10:33 PM
ohh i'm now a tweeter too
 
sbi
Andrei Alexandrescu: http://twitter.com/#!/incomputable
Daveed Vandevoorde: http://twitter.com/#!/daveedvdv
Dave Abrahams: http://twitter.com/#!/DaveAbrahams
Herb Sutter: http://twitter.com/#!/herbsutter
Bjarne Stroustrup: http://twitter.com/#!/stroustrup
Eric Niebler: http://twitter.com/#!/ericniebler
 
nice list
thanks xD
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb "sbi" was already used, too.
 
haha
can one change his username afterwards?
 
sbi
@jweyrich Come to the dark side. We have fast compilation. And sweets. :)
@JohannesSchaublitb What's your nick?
 
10:39 PM
how do I find out whether I've hit my daily rep cap?
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal You go to to stackoverflow.com/users/recent/… and add it up?
@JohannesSchaublitb Yes, you can.
 
@sbi i'm jlitb
 
@sbi meh lame
 
@JohannesSchaublitb That sounds like a java port. eurgh.
 
@TomalakGeretkal stackoverflow.com/reputation will most clearly show when you're over
 
sbi
10:43 PM
@TomalakGeretkal You mean you can't sum it up? :)
@Johannes Who's James Widman?
 
the "today" link is helpful, except you have to subtract out accepts
 
@sbi he's a guy from the committee
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Mhm. I'm surprised I have never heard that name. Is he on clc++m?
@KonradRudolph I'm following 32, low volume most of them. @James follows 117. That number actually discourages me from looking through all of them to find interesting ones...
 
@sbi I make the mistake of looking at the lists of people that others follow and adding interesting ones...
 
@FredNurk thanks. I don't really know what to make of that data, but still.
 
10:50 PM
@sbi dunno. he's sometimes speaking up in core issues
 
@TomalakGeretkal there's a meta.so post explaining it, somewhere
 
@sbi I wanted a box on my profile to say "You are 15 rep below your daily cap! It will reset in 2 hrs 30 mins. Thanks for playing!"
 
114
Q: How do I audit my reputation?

Jeff AtwoodIf I am concerned that my reputation score is incorrect, how can I audit it, or get a report of a detailed breakdown of my reputation? Return to FAQ index

 
lol @TomalakGeretkal . i would upvote such a proposal!
 
@JohannesSchaublitb +1
 
10:53 PM
the time is easy since it displays the UTC time at the top and bottom on the mail page
 
@FredNurk ty
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal I'm looking at my rep once in a while (how would I know where to look otherwise?), but I'm not usually trying to hit the cap or hunt badges. I answer when I feel like it, read more than I answer (you learn a lot from reading others' answers), and it seems I answer a lot less since I managed to stumble into this chat...
 
@sbi ... good for you?
 
for looking at whether youhit the cap, you can just click on the "today" summary
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal It's definitely more relaxed than rep whoring is. (When you get as old as I am, you will also learn to appreciate relaxation. :))
 
10:55 PM
@TomalakGeretkal to get "legendary" is really difficult though, i think xD
 
@JohannesSchaublitb For some reason, legendary feels more than three times as much work as epic.
 
@sbi the problem is relaxing while avoiding trolls
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Especially since after you meet the criteria to get it, you still have to wait another month.
 
yeah weird
@JamesMcNellis i agree
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis So do I but I A) tried to avoid lists that contain many (>30) accounts and B) am sifting rather heavy-handedly. Everyone who tweets too much (no, I'm not looking at neilhimself) or has a bad signal/noise ratio by my high standards (Anthony "Good Morning" Williams), is off the list faster than they can type "@".
 
11:00 PM
oh noo what did i do. i followed @TomalakGeretkal
 
@sbi When did I say that I am rep whoring? Why do you assume that you're older than I? I just wanted to know!
 
BTW what'S with those #terms on twitter? are those magic?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb hashtags. go google.
 
sbi
@FredNurk And the solution is relaxation through avoiding trolls! :)
 
@sbi condescending ;(
 
11:01 PM
ohhhh
 
@TomalakGeretkal: tbf, your gravatar looks younger than his
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal You didn't say you're rep-whoring, but I (implicitly) did.
 
@FredNurk he's after hot girls
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Since I'm The Grumpy Old Man [TM] around here, you are, by definition, not as old as I am. Years don't matter.
@FredNurk And what does that make yours?
 
why is it repwhoring if you just want to have high rep?
 
11:04 PM
@Tomalak: @sbi is older than everybody. Just look at his picture. That's actually him!
 
i also want high rep. that's why i frequently invent trollish questions
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb It's called rep-whoring because we losers envy you for your rep and have to belittle it.
 
@sbi tss your rep is much higher than mine
 
sbi
@JohnDibling John! You weren't supposed to disclose this!
@JohannesSchaublitb Whom are you talking to??
 
@sbi I have a gravatar now?
 
11:06 PM
your avatar looks very old!
i've seen those in old egypt
 
sbi
@FredNurk Yeah, the default, mandala-style one, which I wouldn't be aböe to tell from all the others if it wasn't for the fact that you're the last of the regulars here in the chat which doesn't have a proper avatar.
@JohannesSchaublitb What have you smoked tonight? You have more than twice as much rep as I have.
 
that's not true really
you have more reputation by heart
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Again: What do you smoke?
 
i've not smoked for a couple of years
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Then it must have been incredibly strong stuff to have lasted that long!
 
11:09 PM
lol
 
Ha ha ha. I wonder if that works with money: "no, I don't have enough real money to buy this house, but I have more money by heart, does that count?"
 
11:25 PM
@sbi I kinda like it
 
sbi
@FredNurk I thought so, too, about mine, until I hit the chat and had a hard time telling mine from others, let alone telling the others from each other. That's when I searched for a n actual avatar for me.
 
It's now hard to tell all the "actual" avatars apart from one another. @Fred's is the only one that really stands out!
 
sbi
The other day I managed to convince just about all of the regular contributers here to get one, too. Only you dodged it. :)
 
I have to leave, but this deserves a better response than just my "short answer"
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A: Cannot find baseclass function if baseclass has two functions of same name

John DiblingThe short answer to "why" is "because that's how overloading works." You are hiding the f(int) overload in C. The longer answer is much longer. You can un-hide it by doing this: struct C: public B { using A::f; void f(int, int) { } void f1(int) { } };

I invite you all to elaborate on my behalf :)
Feel free to wiki of you so desire
 
Zan got it
 
11:40 PM
That is a frequently asked question. Whether there is a question tagged [c++-faq] that asks about that issue, I don't know.
 
Theres a bug in this chat
if someone does @Charles, it will highlight both me and the other Charles in this room
 
@TomalakGeretkal: there's comment upvotes for that :)
@CharlesRay: it's a known problem; affects comment replies too, if someone doesn't remove the space when copying the name (except there it only highlights one)
 
@FredNurk Okay, just making sure it got reported.
 
11:57 PM
@FredNurk how did you figure out that comment-number link?
 
guessed
 
right click > inspect, in chrome, shows the source as a tree and scrolls to that element
 

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