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Jun 2, 2023 17:51
I have giant backlog of work for my actual dayjob ready 😆
Jun 2, 2023 17:46
let the bon temps roulez
Jun 2, 2023 17:46
cheers
Jun 2, 2023 17:31
And just to state it it very clearly: I am formally taking part in the general moderation strike and so per what’s stated in openletter.mousetail.nl despite what I had said previously, I will instead now not be handling any flags at all — nor doing any other moderation tasks — unless/until anything happens that leads to those of us all who are striking to end agreeing together to end the strike.
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Jun 2, 2023 17:30
:)
Jun 2, 2023 17:29
Yes indeed
Jun 2, 2023 17:27
PSA about some of my earlier comments here: At chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/56399301#56399301 I had written “I can at least promise that I personally will continue to review all the AI/GPT flags, and never decline any that are valid”, but prior to yet knowing that we were going ahead with the strike…
Jun 2, 2023 09:18
To be candid about it, I think most of y’all may probably know more about what triggers auto-repercussions than I yet do. I realize now it’s something I need to study, but I confess that I really have not yet
Jun 2, 2023 09:17
@markalex I would think there already would be auto-repercussions if 5 user's answers where deleted by mod. I don’t understand in what cases it would not be. But it seems there are some such cases.
Jun 2, 2023 09:15
@KarlKnechtel I would think that the actions I just took would have already caused an answer-ban — but so far at least, it doesn’t seem to have happened
Jun 2, 2023 09:14
@KarlKnechtel I have to confess that I don’t know — I mean, I don’t know enough about the system behavior to understand what leads to automated answer-bans.
Jun 2, 2023 09:07
but I guess I can say that if you were to get suspended for voting abuse for this, it seems like I would be aware that it had happened and would strongly object to it, and try to get the suspension revoked
Jun 2, 2023 09:06
yeah
Jun 2, 2023 09:06
well there is that
Jun 2, 2023 09:05
But anyway, also in general, downvoting these cases seems to be one of the most effective ways to stop them before they post even more
Jun 2, 2023 09:05
well either way it’s gone now
Jun 2, 2023 09:05
ah OK
Jun 2, 2023 09:04
In general, in a lot of these cases, we see that same pattern — many GPT bingers quickly self-delete any answers that get downvoted.
Jun 2, 2023 09:02
@mickmackusa FWIW, it seems like your downvotes were effective. I looks like that user self-deleted every single answer they had posted which was downvoted. There was one remaining un-downvoted answer that they’d posted, and I just now deleted that one myself.
Jun 2, 2023 08:59
@mickmackusa Regardless of the volume, I will keep reviewing the flags and handling them however I can when the confines that the staff have put us under. At least I will keep doing that as long as I continue to have moderator privileges.
Jun 2, 2023 08:57
@mickmackusa Please keep flagging AI/GPT posting abuse of any kind. I can at least promise that I personally will continue to review all the AI/GPT flags, and never decline any that are valid. Since the moderators team is prohibited from doing any suspensions for most of the cases — and I have been personally told directly to stop even sending mod messages for them (even without suspending) — the flags may end up remaining pending for a long time, given the current circumstances.
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Jun 2, 2023 08:53
@mickmackusa Yes that is a flaggable offense — at least I can promise you that if I review a flag for it, I will act on that flag
May 15, 2023 09:06
@rene thanks, looking now
Jan 11, 2023 12:09
haha
Jan 11, 2023 12:08
@VLAZ I get the feeling there’s no active development being doing on the chat app — so I guess my only choice is to step down
Jan 11, 2023 12:05
seems like the chat UI also provides no way to control the width of the names column
Jan 11, 2023 12:05
at least I find no setting for in my chat prefs that would cause it
Jan 11, 2023 12:04
@VLAZ aha
Jan 11, 2023 12:03
@VLAZ Yeah someone else mentioned that to me before but I don’t know why I show up that way. I guess there’s some setting in my chat preferences I should check?
Jan 11, 2023 11:56
@mickmackusa What @CodyGray said — and that user posted multiple other ChatGPT-generated answers in short succession around the same time
Dec 14, 2022 00:54
@gre_gor Good point, yes — but anyway, subsequently deleted (by the community)
Dec 13, 2022 11:09
Anyway, I don’t feel strongly about it — just wanted to put it out there
Dec 13, 2022 11:08
I think it’s true that it’s actually not strictly a dupe — but I think in spite of not being a dupe, it has very little value
Dec 13, 2022 11:07
(I meant “true in general” about “not in favor of deleting duplicates immediately” and “give the OP the time to look at the dupe target, and give them an opportunity to edit the question”)
Dec 13, 2022 11:06
Yeah true in general but I think in this specific case there’s no real improvement that could be made. That said, there are others who have answered (other than the accepted answer) and commented there who I know have a lot more insight in the language than I do. So I may simply be missing something
 

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Mar 3, 2023 22:16
I guess the definitive answer is: the community decides, case by case. Community members can vote to dupe-close, and other community members can vote to reopen
Mar 3, 2023 22:14
@KevinB yeah, that's a common case
Mar 3, 2023 22:12
Yeah, it really depends on the specific case
Mar 3, 2023 22:10
Personally, it seems to me that in practice, they actually usually are duplicates
Mar 3, 2023 22:08
Ah, so Catija is saying the opposite of "different questions with the same answer are duplicates".
Mar 3, 2023 22:03
/me looks
Mar 3, 2023 21:58
Ok, thanks
Mar 3, 2023 21:57
:)
Mar 3, 2023 21:56
Ok
Mar 3, 2023 21:56
Ah ok, that's why I couldn't recall anything definitive
Mar 3, 2023 21:55
> Different questions with the same answer are duplicates.
Mar 3, 2023 21:55
That is, to support this assertion:
Mar 3, 2023 21:52
Anybody have a link handy to the appropriate meta Q&A?