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8:00 PM
Also, lol. The guy has only one picture on Instagram.
 
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He made an Instagram account just for this.
 
lol
that's actually pretty funny
 
@Zoidberg In the idiom, it would be the third meaning (your second bullet)
@Zoidberg Effort! Warrant upvoting
 
@sehe Shouldn't you be saying that to @Rapptz ?
 
@Borgleader Fixed, ty
 
8:01 PM
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Q: Add retro filters for code

Konrad RudolphTriggered by a question where the code was provided via a link to Instagram and by the existence of the code hosting service Instacode, I’d like to suggest implementing hipstery image filers for code posted on Stack Overflow: However, it’s obviously (duh!) bad for usability to just replace the...

 
I'm watching an anime called: Maria is watching over us.
 
this is my finest feature request yet … :)
 
So yuri.
 
@sehe In the idiom it's the first meaning.
 
@StackedCrooked Girls love.
 
8:01 PM
Yep.
 
I'm now reading my old code and man, is it terrible.
 
@KonradRudolph +1'd
 
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@KonradRudolph lol .
 
@Rapptz Check the etymology on that. It's the third. It means roughly: "preaching to the clergy". It refers to preachers preferring to face the choir, because they would meet more eager confirmation and less 'bored faces' or critique
 
@Zoidberg I was surprised that I actually have the privilege of creating tags on meta
 
8:02 PM
'Preaching to the choir' (also sometimes spelled quire) is of US origin. It clearly refers to the pointlessness of a preacher attempting to convert those who, by their presence in church, have already demonstrated their faith. The first reference we can find is from 1973. Many other references date from soon after that, which points to the phrase being coined in that year; for example, this from The Lima News, Ohio, January 1973:

"He said he felt like the minister who was preaching to the choir. That is, to the people who always come to church, but not the ones who need it most."
 
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@KonradRudolph Why? You have 4k on Meta.
 
@Rapptz You copied that. From some source. I don't know
 
Yeah I copy and pasted it
Which is not even close to what you told me
 
@Zoidberg Hmm. Odd, I’m not actually active on meta.
 
I'll keep looking.
But so far all I'm seeing is the first definition.
 
user142019
8:05 PM
There should be explicit "on-topic" or "not a bad question" opening reasons on Stack Overflow, and questions should be closed by default.
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@KonradRudolph oh. You have some upvoted posts though.
 
@Rapptz Gee. I wouldn't have noticed unless you told me. (You still failed to link the source of your quote)
 
@Zoidberg Aaah, I love it … “not a bad question, kind sir”
 
Thanks
 
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8:07 PM
 
@Zoidberg I fear everything would be closed.
 
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As it should be.
 
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Stack Overflow must be cleansed from bad posts.
 
@BartekBanachewicz No
It has no value, it has garbage.
 
oh fuck you're right
I am so used to declare as value-get as def-initialized that I forgot
Anyway today's the first time I actually found protected inheritance useful
 
8:12 PM
I had a case I thought it would be useful and I asked here
and they told me not to do it
but I did it anyway
 
Like a boss.
 
my use case is legit I think
 
I may have used that in the past, but I can't remember what for.
 
I can give you my case
class Node  {
public:
	glm::vec3 m_Rotation, m_Position, m_Scale;
};
 
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A: Java or C++, for game development

BlackBearI'm afraid this will be closed in minutes, I'll go definitely with C++ though, just try minecraft (developed in java) and see how shitty it is.

lol
 
8:14 PM
Now imagine you want to inherit from Node, but dissallow the access to the position etc directly
 
@Rapptz I must admit I find depressingly little confirmation to the fact that the other meaning of 'choir' might have been involved. That saddens me, as I feel very strongly this lends a stronger effect to the expression, much as is implied in this answer:
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A: Are "preaching to the choir" and "preaching to the converted" synonymous

MitchThey are synonomous in their intended epigraphic meaning of 'exhorting people who are already convinced. But there are some nuances. 'choir' is 'Christian'-centric (part of many christian services is a special section of the congregation is the choir. 'the converted' have a tendency to be mo...

I'm basing this on the observation that meaning of "the choir" as the seats of the clergy and priests and other "notable members of congregation" was completely obvious to most people, not even long ago (i.e. I was told to sit "in the choir" as a boy, and that had clearly nothing to with singing)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I've you're gonna post class names that start with letter C on the lounge you're gonna get hurt.
 
@StackedCrooked Whoa. Calm, big boy
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, you've made it public, so tough shit
 
@DeadMG that's the use case for protected inheritance :P
 
8:16 PM
@sehe I'm just warning him. I don't have strong feelings about it myself.
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, it's just you doing something fucked up. Why would you inherit from such a type anyway? It has no useful virtual functions.
 
@DeadMG DRY.
 
and even if you did, there's no reason why the base class would want publicly accessible member variables, but not want to do so in any derived class.
@BartekBanachewicz Composition?
 
@DeadMG Adding another level of indirection model.node.position instead of model.position
 
Private inheritance won't work? There is the 'using' keyword to make things public selectively.
 
8:17 PM
oh no?
it would be so terrible to add an extra whole five characters.
 
Well I don't want to and inheritance allows me not to
It can also be private inheritance of course
@DeadMG Some objects are simple and don't require position checking, for example. I don't want to write accessors when I don't have to, so they just inherit it publicly
 
@sehe I still believe it's the first definition, preaching (the action) seems to fit very well with the first definition of a church choir.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wait, wat.
 
@Rapptz Which one was the first definition?
 
@DeadMG Well it's just a trait. You introduce more members to a class. What's so special about it?
 
8:19 PM
@StackedCrooked Groups of people who sing together, typically in a church.
 
@Rapptz lol
Yeah, that's a choir.
Never mind I'm too tired for this :)
 
@DeadMG Standard rules apply. Think it's shitty? Name a reason. Composition is of course okay, but inheritance isn't worse; just different.
 
@StackedCrooked Hey you're dutch speaking too. Never been to a church as a kid ? "You can't sit there, that's the choir" [meaning: where the 'elders' (?) sit] Or, when you go to a concert in a huge cathedral like in St.Pieters (Leiden), you can have coffee "in the choir". It's just that section of the seats. /cc @Rapptz
@StackedCrooked Me too ...
 
:O
I can log in again!
 
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A: Add retro filters for code

ZoidbergI wrote a custom stylesheet. It works in Google Chrome and should also work in Safari. Feel free to improve and hipsterize further. .prettyprint { color: #839496; background: -webkit-radial-gradient(circle, #002b36, #224d58); -webkit-transform: perspective(500px) rotateX(-10deg) rot...

 
8:24 PM
@Rapptz I'm agreeing that this is what is documented on the current web. I'd be interested to see what a dead-tree library would have to say here. Mostly because that second interpretation is so glaringly obvious, and more powerful (preachers have hobby horses and tend to address their favourite members of congregation: that's a good source of "free confirmation" of his message)
@Rapptz I will concede that, in absense of evidence, my projecting this meaning into the word Choir might have more to do with my Dutch background than I expected. The sheer 'availability' of the alternate meaning does not, indeed, guarantee that this is the usual interpretation (in the context of this idiom)
 
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Notice what topic the post I screenshotted is about. ^^
 
@Zoidberg cofeescript?
 
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CoffeeScript and Node.js. :P
 
I've only been to church when I was little (I'm not even Christian) but the way I have always imagined this situation is that there is a church choir singing about their religion and there are people in the church preaching to it.
 
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Hipster paradise.
 
8:26 PM
I actually find cofeescript superior to javascript <insert confession bear>
 
so
what feature should I add to Wide next?
 
@DeadMG Primitives.
It'd be good to get the basic numerics and such out of the way.
 
Addition!
 
Oh, I forgot to mention GLFW sucks balls
 
actually, my language spec doesn't call for primitives in those terms- they are specified in terms of user-defined types entirely.
 
8:27 PM
GLFW?
 
but I see wat u mean thar
 
@ThePhD shit called "opengl framework"
 
@Rapptz Don't do it. He'll try to make his BigInteger library /cc @DeadMG D:
 
lol
 
If he can implement division I'll be impressed.
 
8:29 PM
@Rapptz irbuilder.CreateIDiv(lhs, rhs)
cleaner than an elven arse
 
wut
 
@Rapptz Haha. That is at least partially troll ("and there are people in the church preaching to it."). Though I appreciate you're also trying to confirm that "choir" has no usual meaning other than that, to you.
 
Ia lways thought elf arses would be kinda dirty.
You know, always being in the forest and shit.
Leafy bottoms.
 
@sehe Hey hey I don't go to church. :(
 
@DeadMG DesignByCommittee now?
 
8:30 PM
Bark and tree dirt.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, for desktop games C/C++ is the best. It is beyond controversy. I just want to say that Minecraft is damn awesome, for Java-based game :)
 
@Rapptz Me neither. But that hasn't always been the case. Also, as a musician I get to see many churches
 
@sehe Nah, I already have the design, it's more about prioritization.
 
@madhead you do agree it sucks when it comes to performance, though?
 
@DeadMG So. Is there a list?
 
8:30 PM
a list of what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, on my 4-core laptop it runs... Pretty good, heh
 
@madhead It is "awesome, for a Java-based game" - lol at the chicken clause!
 
Well I'm hungry.
 
@DeadMG Selectable features
 
not really
just suggest something
 
8:31 PM
@madhead With graphics from 1998, that isn't really much of an achievement. Also, it takes shitload of RAM
 
@DeadMG For BigInts?
 
I mean, right now the parser can't even recognize multiple statements in one function, for example
you know, that's probably the most necessary new feature.
 
@madhead I am hosting the server and playing at the same time; recently noticed my RAM going up to 7.80 GB :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Dat. the RAM thing is hilarious: downloads.sehe.nl/stackoverflow/minecraft/gantt.png
@BartekBanachewicz (I presume, the consumption thereof)
 
@sehe apparently our world is a bit bigger
@sehe I believe we had this discussion already :) /download more ram
 
8:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Yup. My VPS isn't, though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Regarding:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11628765/why-do-lambda-functions-in-c11-not-have-function-types
how would you enforce one of the input parameters to be of a specific type?
 
think robot's afking
 
who's he afking?
 
@sehe wat?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am not talking about server. The game has funs, but I'm not one of them
 
8:35 PM
@sehe The ape!
 
g/funs/fans?
 
@madhead Server is also written in java, mind you.
 
I know
 
Also, minecraft lacks scripting language support. Hint, hint /cc @sehe
 
@BartekBanachewicz And what does it mean for me, as for casual player?
 
8:36 PM
@madhead Define casual minecraft player
 
@BartekBanachewicz Wut? I'm just hosting a minecraft server since a few weeks. I have never even played the game.
 
@sehe nah, I was trying to say Lua without saying Lua again. I can't wait until you finally try it and agree with me how wonderful it is
 
@Zoidberg have a look at vmkit.llvm.org by the way. Make your life a bit easier - before you implement your own GC etc
 
@BartekBanachewicz a guy, who played it several times. Not a maniac, building deathstars/castles... I found the game... funny.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, I agree you think it's wonderful :)
 
8:39 PM
@madhead It's a sandbox game. Essential part of every sandbox is extensibility
Without mods, minecraft wouldn't be nearly as much as popular
and it's easier to make mods in script languages than in, say, java
 
@BartekBanachewicz tell it the guys who do all that crazy things
 
@madhead Hmm, the demoscene, running graphics in 64k of asm?
 
hmm
well implementing multiple statements seems to have gone easily enough
 
@madhead java links worst of two worlds; it's compiled, which means it's hard to isolate it from main application; on the other hand, it's still interpreted, consuming lots of resources unnecesarily
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not not so hardcore as all of you here, bytecrushers. Actually, I'm a java dev. And I just want to say that minecraft has it's audience
 
8:41 PM
it does, but that's irrelevant of Java.
 
@BartekBanachewicz and I know about lua/python
 
@madhead we don't doubt it. Just pointing out the game would be much better in other language
 
except that it could run in a browser when it was first released, I guess
 
@BartekBanachewicz Tell it Notch
 
man
it feels strange to think "Recompile" and not push Build in VS.
I keep rebuilding the compiler when I meant to rebuild my sample with my compiler.
 
8:43 PM
@madhead what should I tell him? That he made a wrong decision? He didn't. He started it as a small project. However, there was a point in time when somebody could say stop, and just rewrite the whole damn thing. After that it was too late.
 
Write a Platform Toolset that uses your compiler. :D
 
lol
 
If you ever figure out how to do that, let me know.
 
@BartekBanachewicz There was a moment when he started earn money..
 
I've been trying to get a MinGW platform Toolset for a while now.
 
8:44 PM
@madhead Yeah, and actually stopped making the game better; he went for money alltogheter
 
@BartekBanachewicz beer to you. Need to go write a couple of XML configs :)
 
Of course it improved since 0.1. Still, the impact of starting it in java is now visible more than ever; java is a dying technology, and minecraft is looking bad written in it.
@madhead good luck. feel free to visit anytime.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You just said duying?
 
@madhead well, yes. What's about that?
The only niche it has now is the Android, but the best games on it are written using NDK anyway.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ok. Nothing. I've just forgottent it's a C++ lounge. I'll just leave out of here quetly. Hold your guns.. Eaasy..
 
8:48 PM
What's NDK do?
 
allows you to write Android apps in C++
 
@ThePhD allows you to write native applications for android
@DeadMG in any native language.
 
or that
 
Assembly? :D
 
if you're suicidal
 
8:49 PM
@ThePhD it's not a language
 
So just C and C++ then.
Maybe Lisp or FORTRAN too?
 
@ThePhD every normal native language has bindings to C, silly
 
I don't know what counts as a native language.
 
@ThePhD time to educate, then
 
any implementation of any language where when you're done, you have a blob of binary CPU instructions as the result.
 
8:51 PM
Oh.
So most compiled languages without an interpreter.
 
yes.
C and C++ are normally considered the prime examples.
but there are others
 
traceroute -m 100 216.81.59.173
or you will miss half the action
 
@n.m. Hm?
 
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@sehe Dammit! Why did I forget that exists. XD
 
Who are you?
 
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8:52 PM
Also added sepia filter and noise background to the stylesheet. xD
 
@Zoidberg You're having a lot of fun with this, aren't you?
 
@Etienne de Martel oops... wrong chat
 
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@ThePhD I have never worked with CSS filters and transformations before.
 
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@n.m. lolnoob
 
@Zoidberg just 30 years behind the kbd... still learning.
 
8:55 PM
I am a terrble person. I invited this Java guy here just to have someone to argue with :)
@n.m. slowpoke
 
@n.m. <kbd>Alt</kbd>
 
@Zoidberg I wonder how many % of the questions is actually closed or off-topic
 
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@Zoidberg Any good way of dynamically loading the CSS you provided in Chrome?
short of hard-coding it as a user stylesheet
 
@Zoidberg I didn't even know it did until just now
 
8:58 PM
hey is any one is the room
haha
 
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@KonradRudolph Stylish extension.
 
haha?
 
Incidentally, damn, somebody deleted my comment on that original hipster code question :/
@Zoidberg okay, I thought there might be a way without
 
so i was wondering i am taking the intermediate class for C++ and the programs are just tough to do what would you guys suggest i do
 
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@KonradRudolph Well, you can do this:
 
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8:59 PM
Go to a Stack Overflow post.
 
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Open Web Inspector.
 
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Create a new <style> tag in the <head> tag and paste the CSS in there.
 
would doing pseudocode or writing out how to do the code be beneficial
 
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But that will only work in that tab until you navigate away.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit This might be something for you to voice in on:
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Q: Old timer's luck vs Newcomer's work

Victor RoninOnce in a while I stumble on some question or answer with HUGE amount of upvotes (thousands for a question and multiple hundreds for an answer). Here is the perfect example: How do I edit an incorrect commit message in Git? What I found that most of such questions/answers are: Quite old (dat...

 
9:00 PM
@KPath001 What is difficult for you?
 
@Zoidberg Tried that, didn’t work
 
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You do that by going to Web Inspector, selecting the Elements tag and control-clicking the <head> tag, selecting "Edit as HTML".
 
yes … tried that, didn’t work
 
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I use Stylish anyway to get rid of the terrible orange color in chat.
 
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Oh. :P
 
9:01 PM
@Rapptz well just designing just became harder
now that we have to include constructor copy constructor
 
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Then I'm clueless. xD
 
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Ohh Konrad.
 
and the format of the question in the textbook is just worded horribly
 
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Did you add the <style> tag after all <link> tags?
 
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Otherwise those may override the custom stylesheet.
 
user142019
9:03 PM
But no; they don't apply transformations and filters. :|
 
It's easy to make an extension/javascript bookmarklet if you want to do that
 
Damn. There is on [Programmers], Stack Overflow and [SuperUser]. Where should I post my question, then? -.-
On all 3, maybe? :P
 
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9:06 PM
it's [su] for super user and [programmers.se] for programmers.
 
It's on Super User right now, but I doubt someone is going to answer there. I'm moving to SO,
Seriously, "Programmers" is a joke
 
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And its design is fugly.
 
I think only the puppy goes there
 
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Q: What's the easiest way to use vertical and horizontal splitting in Visual Studio at once?

Bartek BanachewiczAs seen on the screenshot below, marked by red arrows: If I use Vertical Tab Split subwindow, I lose the ability to split insert another tab and split it vertically. Is there any addon or setting I can change to be able to put my code tabs in sort of rectangle-grid?

 
@BartekBanachewicz Are you trying to have multiple code windows open?
 
9:09 PM
@Rapptz yes.
 
@Zoidberg Well thanks to you my Stack Overflow looks retarded now
or rather, it looks stylish but I can’t read shit
 
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It's always been.
 
@KonradRudolph lol
 
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I can read it.
 
user142019
Buy a better font renderer.
 
9:12 PM
I've added more tags. More tags, more views
 
@Zoidberg A better one than OS X’? I don’t think that’s possible
 
I can probably tag it 'problem', 'question' and 'retarded' too
 
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@KonradRudolph seriously? IMO smaller fonts look so fat on OS X.
 
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(Can change that manually, though.)
 
9:13 PM
@Rapptz yes. except for that omgwtf-large tab top size
 
@Zoidberg Depends on the font weight ;)
no, I know what you mean
LOL
 
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And I can see little artefacts around them.
 
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But yeah, ClearType is worse.
 
I added text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; to your user style, now the font is crisp but the 3D transform is completely broken
 
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lol
 
9:14 PM
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't know how to do that in VS. Hell I don't even use it on ST.
 
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I wish browsers used a dialect of TeX instead of HTML.
 
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Or allowed for inline TeX.
 
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And a decent renderer.
 
@Zoidberg too time-consuming
can’t be done in real-time
 
user142019
9:15 PM
No. We must push computer vendors!
 
www.eclipse.org is down :(
 
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@sehe That's good.
 
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I always found justified alignment on the web look pretty bad.
 
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Even with hyphenation.
 
@Zoidberg No it isn't
@Zoidberg inb4 hardware tex acceleration
 
user142019
9:21 PM
How do you stop an elephant from charging? Cut off its legs.
 
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AntiJokeCat is getting inhumane.
 
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@sehe haha awesome.
 
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TPU.
 
Wut. An elephant is not humane
 
@sehe thank god
 
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9:22 PM
I should really try Control.Concurrent.Chan.
 
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It looks good.
 
Elephants are smart though.
They even have funerals for their deceased.
 
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Some elephants are smarter than some humans.
 
Elephants have the largest brain mass.
 
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Todd Akin comes to mind.
 
9:25 PM
@Rapptz larger than whales?
 
Oh wait no.
 
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@Rapptz Larger than yo momma?
 
I meant for land animals and now you're confusing me. :(
 
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Yo momma is a sea animal?
 
Elephants are amongst the world's most intelligent species. With a mass of just over 5 kg (11 lb), elephant brains are larger than those of any other land animal, and although the largest whales have body masses twenty-fold those of a typical elephant, whale brains are barely twice the mass of an elephant's brain. The elephant's brain is similar to that of humans in terms of structure and complexity - such as the elephant's cortex having as many neurons as a human brain, suggesting convergent evolution. Elephants exhibit a wide variety of behaviors, including those associated ...
 
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9:29 PM
I can understand that; land doesn't have the required density while water just makes her float because fat is hydrophobic.
 
@Rapptz But is shear mass correlated to intelligence?
 
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@JohanLarsson It's not.
 
They say horses are smart too, let's just say I have found no evidence thus far.
 
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I dislike horses.
 
I do too, spend far more time with them than I would like.
Do you have a fight bot?
 
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9:40 PM
Oh my God FUCK YOU GHC.
 
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> #define _UPK_(x) {-# UNPACK #-} !(x)
 
lolwot
 
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GHC y u macros in ur code base. ;_;
 
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And the name isn't even descriptive.
 
the important thing is that I am the victory.
 
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9:41 PM
_UPK_ would suggest "unpack" if you know the context, but its name doesn't tell anything about the !, which indicates strictness.
 
^ that's my answer
 
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Jon Lajoie is fawesome.
 
of course he is
 
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But I don't give a fuck, obviously
 
user142019
9:47 PM
My favourite video by him.
 

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