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5:02 PM
Our troll is trolling PHP.
ahahaha
 
user142019
PHP is bad.
 
I am not going to an 80's disco.
 
user142019
Me neither.
 
user142019
I'm not going to a disco.
 
I'll watch MOTD down the club, and follow the cat example.
 
5:05 PM
the important thing is, I am the victory.
 
If you think that, then there is something wrong with your testing :)
 
heh
 
SO blew up. 'Server Error in '/' Application'
 
well, it is very easy to crash the compiler.
but it's not supposed to compile anything other than std.cout << "hello, world"; yet.
 
> XOXO, The Stack Exchange Team
Well, well.
 
5:18 PM
you know
I spent so long trying to get this thing to compile Hello, World, that now I don't actually know wtf to do next.
well
I should probably figure out why std.cout << "hello, " << "world"; crashes.
 
Ell
isn't a lexer easier to read char by char?
 
yes
 
Ell
start writing the core library
anyway I'm off, good luck with it :)
 
ty
right, fixed.
apparently, lvalues of type T& are not cool?
oh well
 
@DeadMG WIDE WORKS!?
 
5:29 PM
@ThePhD The tiniest smidge, yes.
I successfully compiled
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH
 
Main() {
    cpp("<iostream>").std.cout << "Hello, " << "world!";
}
 
o_O That's one funky inclusion system.
But I like it!
Also FUCK YEAH, '.' instead of '::' !
 
yeah, I don't have a need for :: right now
 
Try to never ever have a need for it.
Ever. :3c
 
5:30 PM
lol
here's another interesting fact
it actually calls a templated operator<<.
so I have instantiated a template, too, and performed ADL
 
Sexy.
 
but I think that for the next few features, they will be more Wide-focused
like, say, functions/variables/primitive types/etc :P
 
Those are kinda necessary. :P
 
yeah
 
Will Wide have templates? :O
 
5:32 PM
hmm
 
Plsplslsplsplspls yes plsplsplspls
 
it will have templates, in a manner of speaking
 
Pls no generics like C# pls nu ;~;
 
I will have functionality that can achieve the same result, and a lot more.
hopefully.
 
Thank god.
 
5:32 PM
@ThePhD way better
 
@sehe Generics are terrible when compared to TMP. ;~;
 
but
the only program you can compile right now is basically that.
I wonder if I could compile a call to printf without having to change the compiler..?
 
Well, why not start by writing out basic integer declrations
and then printing them
The one thing that made me not like C# was the lack of an ability to perform TMP.
God, even for working with Shaders it's just ridiculus
 
Shipwreck in 3, 2, 1 …
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Q: I want to write an app for my GF, Any suggestions?

user2027425Ok here's the thing. She's my ex. I want to write an app for her (in Java) for V day. Nothing overly complicated, or overly love-ly. Something mild, something that says I miss her - but in a fun and interesting way. Suggestions? PS: I'm not sure what to tag this question. If this breaks any of...

 
LOOOOOL
And he picks Java, to show how much he loves her. :D
 
5:37 PM
ah yes
I banned function calls as top-level expressions for no apparent reason.
must fix
 
foo(); is banned?
 
6:01 PM
@StackedCrooked ’Course! It’s the f-word
 
6:14 PM
hmm
@ThePhD that's bad
 
6:54 PM
@KonradRudolph This is so gonna work well.
 
@EtiennedeMartel As soon as SO is back online somebody has to rescue him
 
@KonradRudolph By "rescue" do you mean "vote for deletion"?
(I'm kidding)
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, set him straight in a comment
 
He probably won't listen.
 
seriously, this guy is doing himself a huuuge disservice
 
6:56 PM
But we can always try.
 
yeah, true
 
Oh this outage sucks...
 
@Mysticial What outage?
 
@Doorknob Read-only mode.
One of my answers is on front page Reddit programming and Hacker News...
right now...
 
I came to 7 messages on my inbox
and I can't even see them haha
 
7:08 PM
@Mysticial Seems to have come back to normal.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm still seeing read-only mode.
Perhaps my side of the DNS is still returning Oregon. But your side is already returning NY.
 
Me too
 
now it's back for me
 
oh yay it's back
 
I r the victory!
 
7:10 PM
I still can't see my inbox thing.
 
I probably lost about 20 - 30 upvotes during this 2-hour read-only mode. But TBH, I've been on Reddit and Hacker News so many times that it's bound to happen eventually.
And I'd rather it happen now (on a small one with +100) than something big...
 
@FredOverflow It's yosefk, the guy who wrote the FQA
 
lol FQA
 
He's still complaining about C++ to this day though?
 
7:12 PM
We had a professor called Veerle Fack.
 
I really wish there was some privilege between 3k and 10k rep.
 
Damn, too slow
> In all seriousness, this is a bad idea, and going ahead is only going to bring you misery. First off, programs are about the least effective way of saying “I miss you” (or anything else personal) – unless your huge ex is a huge geek, she’ll not appreciate a program. Secondly, ex’ and Valentine don’t mix. If you really think this relationship is worth another shot, give cheesy romance crap like Valentine’s a huge berth.
 
removed from Stack Overflow for reasons of moderation
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The puppy is the victory. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
 
that's lame ^
 
7:14 PM
lame :)
 
meh
factually accurate
 
@Rapptz Fanatic. n. Person who can't change either his mind or the subject.
 
@DeadMG lol self-aggrandizement
 
shuddup
 
Tell me one thing - if Phong shading is essentially per-fragment, what's the advantage of using deferred rendering?
 
7:15 PM
it's my revenge for last night, when sehe and thecoshman told me how I'd never achieve anything
 
tracert 216.81.59.173
Do it
 
@BartekBanachewicz None, in this case.
 
@DeadMG I am confused now. So all this deferred rendering hype was essentially bullshit?
 
~ $ tracert 216.81.59.173
-bash: tracert: command not found
@Borgleader Good enough?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I believe it still has other advantages.
 
7:16 PM
@StackedCrooked Oh you're on linux...
that would be traceroute for you
i believe
 
yeah.
 
user142019
How could transactions be implemented in databases? I was thinking of this:
1. Begin transaction
2. Do queries
3. Commit
    - If something has changed between 1 and 3, retry again from 1.
    - Otherwise write changes to disk.
 
user142019
Is that correct?
 
@Zoidberg Not exactly.
you need something more fine-grained than "something", else you'll effectively be holding one, single, lock during all queries.
 
7:18 PM
@Zoidberg Have you looked up "two phase commit with rollback"?
 
user142019
Nope. Will do.
 
hmmm
my type system is broken
 
@StackedCrooked Tell me how you like the host names when the command is done running.
 
@Borgleader What the...?!
 
Can anyone access their inbox?
 
7:19 PM
@Doorknob Did you run it?
 
yep
 
Awesome isn't it?
 
what about telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl or something like that?
 
@StackedCrooked :)
 
7:20 PM
lol just started to read it
 
I saw it on google+, I was skeptic at first, but that's awesome shit right there.
 
interesting trace
 
I posted something cool and @StackedCrooked gets the stars >.>
6
fml xD
 
@Borgleader Life is unfair :P
 
Err.. hello?
 
7:22 PM
Hi
 
hello @martin
 
Oh, it's back!
 
So apparently hipster programmers are a thing now
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Q: C++ Why the parenthesis?

Cody Smithhttp://instagr.am/p/VhW8hHF4Fx/ In this example, why... (*myparam) += 10; What difference would the following produce? *myparam += 10; Thanks :)

 
C:\Users\Tockman>tracert "correctly. Doorknob is awesome"
Unable to resolve target system name correctly. Doorknob is awesome.
:D
 
no
 
7:25 PM
@KonradRudolph zomg
 
user142019
The easiest would be to lock the entire database for each transaction. xD
 
user142019
Or spawning new universes, if only that were possible.
 
what, for N transactions, spawn 2^N universes where they run in every possible combination, then pick the one where nothing bad happened and destroy the others?
 
@KonradRudolph Oops -- sorry to stomp on your edit -- I was clicking the button just as the warning came up, and don't notice quite quickly enough to keep from completing the click.
 
user142019
@DeadMG of course.
 
user142019
7:27 PM
One thing I don’t understand is how consciousness works.
 
@JerryCoffin Whatever ;)
your edit is better anyway
 
@Zoidberg Nobody does.
 
user142019
What a surprise. :)
 
@Zoidberg You're on your way then -- those who think they understand clearly have the least clue of anybody.
 
@Borgleader Hey man. I can't even access my inbox.
Now I have 8 messages I can't see.
 
7:29 PM
Your SO inbox?
 
Yeah
 
huh that's weird
 
I know what 7 of them are, but not the 8th one.
 
user142019
Consciousness and why anything exists rather than nothing are weird things.
 
Oh it works now
 
user142019
7:30 PM
It’s like PHP; it kinda works but there is no person anywhere who knows how.
 
user142019
I want artificial consciousness.
 
@Zoidberg "It kinda works" means it's quite a bit different from PHP, which just doesn't, for any reasonable definition of "works".
@Zoidberg A lot of AI researchers do to -- and some are convinced it's just around the corner. Then again, some have been convinced it was just around the corner for at least 50 years.
 
@Borgleader I just noticed in the book they're passive by pointer rather than reference.
 
@Rapptz Maybe the book has introduced pointers and not references yet.
IIRC my first C++ course introduced pointers before reference
 
Never took a C++ course
 
7:37 PM
@Borgleader Big mistake (not that I'm blaming you, just saying).
 
pointers are considerably simplier in concept than references
 
I don't think so
 
user142019
I do think so.
 
That's nice.
 
because they are already in C
 
7:41 PM
So we should learn C first and then C++?
 
SO is moving their servers again?!
 
I agree with litb here. Pointers are simpler.
Simply because they're straight-forward.
 
Yeah that must be why every new programmer misuses them
 
@Rapptz no
 
@BartekBanachewicz Thanks.
 
7:45 PM
@JohannesSchaub-litb no
 
@Borgleader Yeah, that's why I got kicked off the chat. To torture me I could still watch you guys continue chatting
 
@JerryCoffin I think that we have a much better idea of the challenges than we did 50 years ago.
 
I don't agree that pointer is a simpler concept that reference
pointer is something related to underlying computer architecture. Reference is purely language based term, well-defined in language.
 
@MartinJames or, should we say, all your former source code :)
Really?! Oh man I must have been wrong all the time then.
(Hint: tell me something new?)
2 hours ago, by sehe
@ThePhD way better
^@ThePhD clarifying: I was referring to what Wide has in store in terms of static evaluation
 
haha, cocky
Yes it's a book, I'm the furthest thing from a hipster. Instagram is the fastest way I could think of uploading an image from an iPod. Whatever, guess this is a "fuck me, right?" Instance. — Cody Smith 6 mins ago
 
7:49 PM
I don't think that's too cocky
 
user142019
iOS supports uploading images from Safari.
 
grr, SO doesn’t let me reply
timeout
 
If I was in his position I would've just typed the code
instead of taking/uploading a picture
 
Why should hipster be pejorative.
 
i’m not even mad … I just find it an odd reaction to take a picture instead of typing it, but it’s pretty prevalent
@StackedCrooked it generally is
 
7:53 PM
I think it shouldn't really.
 
@Zoidberg YOU DESTROYED THE ARTWORK!
 
@Zoidberg What.
 
@EtiennedeMartel He removed the link to instagram and typed the code instead.
OP took a picture of his book.
 
user142019
 
7:55 PM
@Borgleader Yeah, I know.
 
@Zoidberg Stack Overflow should add that as a feature
 
My "what" was mostly a "what" of flat surprise.
 
– based on CSS3 transformations, of course
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh
@KonradRudolph Make a feature request about it :)
I'll upvote it if it let's me
 
@Zoidberg lol
 
user142019
7:56 PM
Also, that code is bad.
 
@Zoidberg How did you make that?
 
@Zoidberg Pointers are the future!
 
user142019
Cody Smith Y U PIONTER Y U NO RETURN FUCKING VALUE.
 
A pointer to the future.
 
user142019
Return by ref or by pointer is terrible.
 
user142019
7:57 PM
And if you need to return multipru values, return a tuple.
 
Preaching to the choir again, are we?
:)
 
@Zoidberg Depends.
 
@StackedCrooked "against"? I'd expect "to"
 
@StackedCrooked Isn't it "Preaching to the choir" ?
 
Right.
 
7:59 PM
You can preach against the choir too
 
Thanks.
 
user142019
choir |ˈkwʌɪə|
noun
an organized group of singers, especially one that takes part in church services or performs in public.
• one of two or more subdivisions of such a group performing together: his famous Spem in alium for eight five-part choirs.
• the part of a cathedral or large church between the high altar and the nave, used by the choir and clergy.
• a group of instruments of one family playing together: a clarinet choir.
 
user142019
TIL a new word.
 
@Rapptz Choirs are sinful!
 
@Rapptz Yeah, that's why I didn't s/against/to/ unconditionally
 

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