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10:00 PM
@Zoidberg I wonder how long it'll be before our beloved government here in Colorado decides to copy it (hmmm...and maybe in translating to English, "country" will turn into "state"...)
 
@kfmfe04 I have been a QT fan since like ever. But I found Kill Bill to be rather boring and Death Proof was... well... yeah. Inglourious Basterds was hands down his best ever and restored my faith in him.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes agreed - the entire KB series was way overrated - I thought DP and that Machete movie were good for what they were meant to be... ...IB is fun to watch though - definitely holds up to multiple viewings...
 
Ell
anyone here used GnuCash?
 
@Ell I used it once years ago - it's accounting/ledger-based
 
Ell
@kfmfe04 do you recall an Imbalance-* account?
 
10:07 PM
Ok, I'm really tired. Good night.
 
gn
@Ell didn't use it that much, but from the sound of it, such an account should come directly from accounting principles...
prolly you've set up your accounts improperly or didn't assign a registry right (both sides)
 
Ell
basically I want to add money in (from nowhere) as opposed to a transfer
 
even if you deposit money, I think there is still the other side you need to attribute (either credit or debit) somewhere
 
@Ell scratched the surface. My mom ended up using Turbocash for many administrations. Note the project forked since, and - confusingly - both still carry the same name. I think. I could google for the version
@Ell You have to balance, I think the Dutch wording would be to add "Eigen Vermogen" (proper capital?)
 
Not exactly your case, but... (copied from web)

Example 1: Owner invests $5,000 in the company. Analysis: Since money is deposited into the checking account, Cash is debited (the balance increased by $5,000). What account receives a credit? An Equity account called Owner’s Equity or Capital Contribution. Since Equity accounts are ‘negative’ accounts, crediting this Equity account increases its balance by $5,000.
 
10:12 PM
@Zoidberg link or it didn't happen
@JohanLarsson erm. thank you. I guess. I hope
 
@sehe know?
 
@JohanLarsson you mean, link?
 
small question, how should I break a long line such as the following at a width of 80?
OrigCreateAcceleratorTableA = (CREATEACCELERATORTABLE) (uintptr_t) redirect_iat_entry (module, "user32.dll", create_accelerator_table, (void *) (uintptr_t) MyCreateAcceleratorTableA);
indent outputs

OrigCreateAcceleratorTableA =
(CREATEACCELERATORTABLE) (uintptr_t) redirect_iat_entry (module,
"user32.dll",
(void
*) (uintptr_t)
GetProcAddress
(user32,
"CreateAcceleratorTableA"),
(void
*) (uintptr_t)
MyCreateAcceleratorTableA);

but I'm not sure whether this is productive
 
@sehe I meant guess, hope, know!
 
10:16 PM
Both are terrible
hth
 
Ell
Hmm I think gnucash is more than what I need
 
@JohanLarsson :)
 
Ell
anyways, I'm off now guys, talk later :)
 
btw. this default avatar contains a swastika
 
@netcat which one? They're all unique, you know
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Q: How is the default user avatar generated?

alextanscIs there a name for the default avatars that are generated for users who do not assign one themselves? Not the avatar of the blank user, but the one made up of shards, shapes, and colours: Is there an online generator for something like that? See also: How do I change my profile ...

 
user142019
10:22 PM
What's a normal salary for a decent software developer?
 
@sehe, well the one I have
 
@Zoidberg What's a decent salary for a normal software developer :)
 
TIL it's an MD5 hash of your email address.
 
@netcat I looked hard and long. No swastika in there.
 
user142019
@sehe I don't know.
 
10:23 PM
@netcat huh? I think you can see something others can't.
 
user142019
900 euro per month net income (i.e. gross minus tax), is that much or little?
 
Dec 26 '12 at 21:44, by Shotgun Ninja
@cpx, your Gravatar looks like a fancy swastika.
 
@Zoidberg Uh if you convert that to dollars it's pretty decent.
 
user142019
@Rapptz it's $1175.
 
Not so much for a software developer though lol
 
user142019
10:25 PM
@Rapptz Good.
 
@netcat Also it's U+5350
 
user142019
inb4 flag
 
You know, that's probably minimum wager or below
 
@sehe that's one long character description.
 
user142019
@sehe 900 euro?
 
10:26 PM
hahaha - I like the unicornicons
 
@Zoidberg I know, it's pretty low for a career based job but it's a bit above minimum wage and decent for those who aren't working in a type of job that requires experience.
 
@Zoidberg Erm. I dunno. Long time since I converted my starting wages/stufi into euros. Hollandse Florijnen, alt+159 you know
@Rapptz He has experience!
 
user142019
You must have a net income of at least 900 euro if you want to live in Finland.
 
Glad to know that
 
user142019
@Rapptz I have two months work experience, according to @sehe at a "pizza box". xD
 
10:27 PM
I meant.. you know
 
an entry level job at a company.
 
@Zoidberg why Finland?
 
user142019
@JohanLarsson I have always liked Finland.
 
@netcat yeah,, but that's not your gtar
 
10:28 PM
@sehe yeah it is o.o
at least it is for my screen
 
user142019
@Rapptz ah. :P
 
@Zoidberg That is a good reason, do you like Norway?
 
@netcat you have crazy imagination.
 
user142019
@JohanLarsson I don't know much about Norway nor Sweden.
 
I would never see it this way.
 
10:30 PM
@Griwes, c'mon man, it's pretty obvious
 
@Zoidberg did you watch the kerst conference by a number of dutch comedians last christmas? "Finland always comes in #1"
 
user142019
Finland is #1.
 
@netcat You know, I live in Poland, and we do know how swastika looks like.
 
@Griwes, I have a fetish for swastikas, but though it's easily spotable
 
@Rapptz No it isn't. You added lines /cc @netcat
 
10:30 PM
Your avatar does not look like one, seriously.
@sehe :D
 
user142019
Now I think of it
 
user142019
my net income at my previous job was uh
 
user142019
assuming 8 weekends per month
 
haha
 
user142019
ugh
 
user142019
10:31 PM
4 weekends per month*
 
@sehe, well, the figures are there, I just connected the dots to make you see it as well
 
@Zoidberg lol
 
user142019
(30 - 4 * 2) * 8 * 5.5 = 968 EUR net income :P
 
@netcat Seriously. There is no swastika there. stop imagining things.
@Zoidberg Erm, you know, 4 * 2 is 8.
:P
 
user142019
I know.
 
user142019
10:33 PM
Now all the taxes removed and I'm under 900 EUR.
 
user142019
Yay. xD
 
(Yes, yes, I know, showing intentions etc., and that was stupid joke, but I had to.)
 
@Zoidberg Quick facts about Norway, the worlds eight biggest oil exporter, on par with Iraq. Unemployment rate ~3%, population 4,7M source
 
@kfmfe04 Mine is funny.
 
user142019
10:35 PM
@JohanLarsson What's the biggest? Oh, found it: wolframalpha.com/input/?i=biggest+oil+export.
 
@Griwes hahaha - goofy looking
 
user142019
Norway is #6. Stop lying. :P
 
@Zoidberg hmm, I though it was Brazil by now, was pretty sure even.
 
@griwes ..., all I'm saying is that it definitely resembles one: imm.io/SiwJ
 
@Zoidberg Hey Zoidberg, any new ideas to kill Java?
 
10:38 PM
Mine is weird.
 
@netcat It definitely doesn't.
 
user142019
@bash0r simple: kill all people who like it and destroy all the Java code bases and Java schools.
 
@netcat Or we use different definitions of "definitely", IDK.
 
@griwes just look at the picture I linked, I connected the dots to make it more obvious
 
@netcat ...
 
user142019
10:38 PM
Though some may claim that that is inhumane.
 
@EtiennedeMartel it's actually interesting - I like the colors too
 
@netcat Swastika looks like this: 卐
 
user142019
Rectangle!
 
It has NO big black square in the middle.
 
@Zoidberg For Canada, it's mostly because of tar sands, which are even more of a PITA to extract.
 
user142019
10:39 PM
s/tar sands/Tarzans/
 
Your "connected dots" HAVE a big black square in the middle.
 
@netcat You should consider joining a sect. I think you have a talent :) Scientology may be a good starting point (sorry lion?)
 
Hence, your avatar does NOT contain swastika.
 
user142019
Join The Church of Zoidberg. You'll give me two thousand dollars per month so I can move to Finland.
 
@netcat Now go see swastika everywhere somewhere else.
 
10:40 PM
@Griwes there are hundreds of different forms of swastikas, it does not need to be exactly as the character you wrote
 
@Zoidberg What do they have to do every day? Write at least one Zoidlang program everyday?
 
@Zoidberg lol
 
user142019
@Griwes they can do whatever they want.
 
user142019
All I require is the money.
 
10:41 PM
@griwes e.g. look at the aztec version
 
@netcat hah
your avatar certainly DOESN'T look like Aztec one.
 
user142019
Also
 
user142019
a few weeks ago I discovered I had two nationalities. T_T
 
user142019
I'm both Dutch and Polish.
 
huh, the greek one is weird.
 
10:41 PM
@Zoidberg when did you loose one?
 
@griwes a swastika is a spiritual symbol across the whole world, there are lots of different versions
 
@Griwes hint: they're all weird
 
user142019
Terrible parents y u give me Polish nationality are you crazy?
 
@Zoidberg What kind of matrix crack do you want? The simple virus or something more complicated?
 
@griwes omg I did not say my avatar looks like the aztec one, but the aztec one does have a big black square in the middle
 
user142019
10:42 PM
@bash0r atomic bombs will do.
 
@griwes which you said would be a no-go for a swastika
 
@netcat the Bali one was in pacman!
 
@Zoidberg I'd like to be able to live after Java-fallout. >.<
 
@netcat And your avatar doesn't have curved lines.
Now go see swastikas everywhere somewhere else.
 
@griwes are you fucking kidding me?
 
10:43 PM
I feel like I'm repeating myself.
 
@Griwes Yeah!
 
@netcat It's "Griwes". Note capital "G".
 
@Zoidberg Don't you have a more 'clean' solution?
 
@griwes just look at the damn picture I send you, it looks like a regular left turning swastika with a square in the middle like the aztec one
@griwes you're pretty close-minded, man
 
@netcat hahahaha
 
10:45 PM
@griwes no, srsly
 
Can we stop talking about swastikas now?
Otherwise, we will have to change the name of the room to Lounge<Swastikas>
Or sth
 
@griwes you nig are annoying as shit, man, goddamnit, just look at the fucking picture I linked, is it too hard to see some resemblance? are you autistic or what's wrong with you?
@griwes nvm though, it's not important anyways
 
@netcat :D
 
user142019
inb4 flag and ban
 
You, sir, should get some gold badge on SO now.
 
user142019
10:46 PM
HELLO ELL
 
"Swastika lover" or something.
 
user142019
lol
 
yeah, hopefully
 
Gold? Not gold, duh. Platinum one.
 
Vote for rename
 
10:47 PM
well, I'm off now
good night and stuff
 
user142019
Good bye and see you never again.
 
user142019
:D
 
:D
 
What do you guys think about LLVM?
 
Ell
@zoid hello :D
 
user142019
10:48 PM
@bash0r the idea is nice, the realization is nice, the code base is terrible.
 
Ell
Did that guy send Griwes a dick pic or something? ;) "just look at the picture!"
 
@Ell scan up - he linked to it (wordpress)
 
@Zoidberg Everything I tested ATM worked like a charm and the performance was great. Do you think it's worth using it for a compiler/jit-compiler?
 
user142019
I don't know. I have never used LLVM directly.
 
user142019
For Zoidlang I just use a bytecode interpreter; no JIT.
 
10:50 PM
@Ell He kept saying he can see swastika in his avatar.
 
Mhh kay. All in all I don't want to develop LLVM, I just want to use it's benefits.

I wanted to use my language as a base for my game's Script Engine. Performance matters. : >
 
user142019
Use Lua, Python or JavaScript problem solved.
 
I hate Lua, Python and JavaScripts syntax.
 
user142019
What syntax does your language have?
 
Ell
It sucks the Nazis used the swastika, its a pretty cool design imho
 
10:52 PM
@Griwes Not only that: he kept insisting it is clearly visible to anyone. And drew up a ridiculous caricature with added lines. I mean, with those lines, I could plausibly state my avatar portrays a hidden swastika :)
 
And lexer & parser are already done. It's just the code generation which is missing.

My language uses a mix of C/C++/C# and Haskell syntax.
 
@bash0r Can you stop using those Goddamn huge messages? Thanks ;D
 
@Ell I'll never "get" that design thing. How can anyone like a shape like that? What makes that tick? It's just a weird sign for me. Like any other. Crosses, letters, it's all fine with me
 
@Griwes I'll do my best. >.<
 
user142019
@bash0r why don't you just use Haskell?
 
user142019
10:54 PM
I don't care about swastikas or whatever symbols.
 
@bash0r What's C/C++/C#?
 
@bash0r Appreciated here
 
I mean, C/C++ is UB.
But # is not allowed there.
 
@Zoidberg So why don't you just use APL?
 
So I don't even know what it is.
 
10:54 PM
@Zoidberg I don't want to use recursion for everything. Sometimes it's really nice but not all the time.
 
@Griwes god. that's.... a terribad code pun
 
Ell
@sehe I don't know really, it just looks good, each arm following the other around, it looks natural and regular
 
user142019
@Griwes it's not.
 
I use some syntax constructs from C, C++ and C#. Wasn't a correct expression. :x
 
user142019
It can be UB, depending on the type of C and the implementation of the / and postfix-++ operators.
 
10:56 PM
@Zoidberg Let's assume it's int.
So it can work in both C and C++ it refers to.
 
user142019
And # is allowed there. In the beginning.
 
@Ell tons of things look natural and regular. I'd argue it's the absense of form, of signal, the absense of design in a way (a circle would clearly be more natural and more regular)
 
user142019
#C/C++
 
Kill me for my little fault. ._.
 
In the beginning, God created the preprocessor
On the first day, he created a hash-character, and called it: "The Pound Symbol"
 
user142019
10:57 PM
 
@Zoidberg But not in C/C++/C#, which was the exact phrase he used.
 
@bash0r Okay
 
user142019
Oh C/C++/C#. I don't care about C/C++/C#.
 
Ell
@sehe I guess... I don't know, art and music fascinate me in that way - what part of Evolution made certain music invoke emotions?
 
@sehe It was supposed to be terribad.
So it worked o/
 
10:58 PM
@Ell All of it. The part that evolved a brain that responds to heterogenous stimuli.
 
user142019
Guyz.
 
@Griwes I was aware of that. Just pointing it out to some oblivious new chat users
 
@Zoidberg Congrats, you killed Java with success!
 
user142019
I want to get a well-paying job and move to Finland.
 
@Zoidberg Riddle?
 
Ell
10:59 PM
Why Finland? Didn't yoi say education was aweful?
I want a well paying job and tomove to Norway
 
@Ell no
 
@Zoidberg I didn't think you were into blondes
 
user142019
@sehe I ain't. How is it relevant?
 
@Zoidberg genetically/demographically - at least stereotypically speaking?
 
user142019
11:01 PM
@sehe TIL
 
too many -ically in one post, I feel
 
user142019
I like black, blue, green and red hair.
 
pink is fine too
 
I'm out for now. Let's see if I can get a JIT compiler run with LLVM. Have fun.
 
Let me guess. Black, mostly?
 
user142019
11:02 PM
@sehe Piccalilli!
 
user142019
@sehe I prefer all equally much.
 
BAM, let's see if I can hold out on this shitty timewasting PoS
 
@sehe ;D
 
@Zoidberg wait. I prefer all my favourite colors equally much. But these 10 are my most favourite colors?
 
user142019
11:03 PM
1 min ago, by Zoidberg
I like black, blue, green and red hair.
 
user142019
I prefer those four over other colours, but I prefer those four equally much.
 
Ell
I like ginger :3
 
(No, I don't go to 4chan)
 
user142019
@Ell I read that as "nigger".
 
11:04 PM
@GigaBass that's 60 minutes above the medically advised limit :)
 
This just in: Google are templars.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel AWESOME
 
@Zoidberg lol
 
user142019
@GigaBass I could never live in such a mess.
 
No thanks, @GigaBass. At least label NSFW
 
11:05 PM
That is just gross
 
@sehe Thank you.
 
hmm, my company's java code has a terrifying number of catch(exception ex) {e.printStackTrace();}, and even more terrifying: catch(exception ex) {}
 
user142019
4chan is great.
 
Woops sorry didn't think it was NSFW.
 
@EtiennedeMartel So... recycling helps the templars?
 
11:06 PM
@Zoidberg And muhammed is its prophet?
 
Ell
@zoid I am never attracted to non Caucasian skin tones really, I dont Know why. I'm okay with oriental Asian actually, but besides those two
 
@Borgleader No, it's the Google Drive logo on the left.
 
user142019
@sehe s/it's/its/ noob
 
user142019
@sehe and no, because then it wouldn't be nice.
 
And yeah, but I truly need it to be able to talk to people ;_;
 
11:06 PM
@GigaBass Right. You haven't been in many jobs yet, I wager?
 
user142019
@sehe me neither.
 
user142019
I had one job, and there this wasn't NSFW.
 
None in which I could access a PC :P
 
6
Q: Are "anonymous structs" standard? And, really, what *are* they?

Lightness Races in OrbitMSDN reckons that anonymous structs are non-standard in C++: A Microsoft C extension allows you to declare a structure variable within another structure without giving it a name. These nested structures are called anonymous structures. C++ does not allow anonymous structures. You c...

 
(Only 1 though: desk assistance, printing stuff)
 
11:07 PM
@Zoidberg Mkay. One employer on my blacklist.
 
user142019
lol
 
@GigaBass "Desk assistance: head stopping barrier"
@EtiennedeMartel Care to enlighten me? What's that about?
 
Didn't get the joke ;<
 
@sehe On the left, the Google Drive logo. On the right, the logo of Abstergo Industries, a fictional corporation from the Assassin's Creed universe (and front for the evil Knight Templars).
 
Aha. That way. Nice spot
I use Google Drive, but I would never have noticed that was the logo
 
11:11 PM
@Griwes Is he really farming rep?
 
@EtiennedeMartel No idea.
@EtiennedeMartel Ping him here and ask by yourself.
 
@Griwes I mean, he did answer his own question,.
@Griwes Erm, last time he came here, it ended badly, IIRC.
 
@EtiennedeMartel heh
 
Let's just say Tomalak (that's his name) isn't well respected in the Lounge.
Not because of his skills (he's very good), but because of his attitude.
 
I made a question and answered myself once too :<
 
11:14 PM
@Griwes: Unless you need a solution that can be compiled as both ... — Goz 36 secs ago
 
And yes, it was a big hit.
 
Yay, someone advocating using both and on a question!
 
@Griwes Let's throw some downvotes at it.
 
lol, conspiration at work
 
@EtiennedeMartel lets not. I've always respected Tomalak.
 
user142019
11:17 PM
@MooingDuck It is unrelated to him.
 
user142019
Topics change quickly in this room.
 
@MooingDuck Follow my reply.
 
@Zoidberg oh, that's fine then
 
user142019
Only downvote Tomalak's (or anyone else's) posts if they are bad and their authors should feel bad.
 
Would you like to explain, please, why the compiler crashes? — nenito 2 hours ago
@nenito: simple because of a bug in the compiler. — sehe 58 secs ago
Zing
 
user142019
11:20 PM
@sehe Dans
 
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeej
Het meest lelijke stukje tenenkrommend Nederlandstalig dat ik ken
(dat is een leugen, StackedC linkte laatst iets dat zeker erger was)
 
Du hast mich
 
@GigaBass They're Dutch, not German.
 
@GigaBass Du häßt mich :)
 
user142019
@GigaBass Ik heb je niet, sukkel. Stop met liegen.
 
11:22 PM
So close...
 
user142019
@sehe just "hast"
 
I bet my family's being insulted in some way or form
 
@Zoidberg I'm guessing how to spell 'You hate me' auf Deutsch
 
user142019
@sehe Sie hassen mich.
 
11:23 PM
HAH! That meant, "in german"
Ich liebe bier
 
@GigaBass yeah. It's also, in german
 
user142019
@GigaBass Je me gusta piwo.
 
@GigaBass Consider euthanasia
@Zoidberg Polish
 
Already plotting my demise, are you...
 
user142019
@sehe + French + Spanish xd
 
11:24 PM
Please, code on ideone.com (Expellearmus)
 
Sorry, thought it would condense that.
 
user142019
Vans. Off the wall of code.
 
@chris Regardless
 
Yeah, I'm about to give a link.
http://ideone.com/Z5qoG8
If both cases have different conditions, but same outcomes, and you wanted to move them to a function, but that function would need a number of parameters, would you suggest a lambda that captures those instead?
 
I've understood that but why this happens, what causes it? Some more explanations regarding using church = Func<dynamic, dynamic, dynamic>;nenito 4 mins ago
 
The Mooing Duck Strikes Again
 
@MooingDuck, The first one could work, thanks. The second would require foo to pass dummy variables declared out of the switch so that the function can work on them, though.
 
Yo momma's so fat, that when she jumps in a pool she displaces a slightly larger volume of water than people with less body mass do.
2
 
In case you're wondering, one use is a hotkey that does the same thing as clicking something.
 
@chris second edited to show that I'd use a lambda
 
11:32 PM
@sehe lol
 
11:42 PM
https://github.com/twitter/bijection/issues/41#issuecomment-12051961 "Programming isn't math." Yes, it is. What do you think it is, interpretive dance?
 
.@psnively Dang you, now I need to put "turing complete set of dance moves" on my to-do list.
This is great ;D
 
lulz
 
user142019
klootzakz
 
geinponemz
 
user142019
@sehe How is that related to dancing, you cryptographer?
 
11:51 PM
i've just been bashed because I said one must include iostream instead of stdio.h :-(
i'm sad
 
@Zoidberg It isn't. It's just related to the message you edited, but initially posted in response to (a port of) that comment thread I linked earlier.
There.
 
user142019
I see.
 
user142019
Ah well. I'm probably half asleep.
 
user142019
I have a test today.
 
@StephaneRolland Well (a) if it was , they're absolutely right. (b) if it is to include the declaration of printf and fnprintf, they're also right
@Zoidberg Pregnancy, cooper or HIV?
 
11:53 PM
I apologize I am vaccined against printf
 
@StephaneRolland Heathen!
 
user142019
@sehe analyse.
 
user142019
About requirements and usability.
 
too much bug sory
 
@Zoidberg O. Nice. So they do teach real subjects, besides running you through the mill of commercial entities?
 
11:54 PM
too many
 
user142019
@sehe and Java. ;_;
 
@Zoidberg O shit. I assumed mathematical analysis :(
 
Blargha
 
user142019
And well, real subject, nah.
 
FBX. =[
 
user142019
11:55 PM
Teacher was gone for three weeks and no replacement was there.
 
@Zoidberg No. Softcore
 
Turns out it's mostly proprietary if you try to ship code around with it.
 
@Zoidberg So, you're going to ace it!
 
user142019
NO WONDER ALMOST EVERYBODY FAILED THE TEST, HUH SCHOOL?!
 
user142019
(Herkansing.)
 
11:56 PM
what is the ideal string/char-based data type for a 1000-digit immutable number? just String?
 
user142019
@sehe we get linear algebra in year two. And that's about all of maths we get in four years.
 
@Zoidberg Ow. Well, sterkte, zet hem op, toy toy etc. And go to bed
@Zoidberg Whoops
 
user142019
@sehe Dankjewel en ik lig al in bed.
 
user142019
Ik kan niet wachten op mijn stage.
 
user142019
Kan ik eindelijk iets nuttigs doen.
 
11:57 PM
@MarcusStuhr I'd say so. Depends a bit on what you're planning on doing with it. deque<char> might become an option
 
Just scanning through it / looking at the product of 5 digits at a time
 
user142019
Then I'd say string or vector<char>.
 
@MarcusStuhr any reason to not do that streaming? Must you store the entire input?
 
Don't do a char array for big integers.
 
user142019
@MarcusStuhr Project Euler? :)
 
11:58 PM
@sehe In this case, yes
 
Marcus already has 409/409 solved lol
 
@Zoidberg Yeah, porting all my Python solutions to C++, as I don't use it much but want to see the timings
 
@Zoidberg Pretty equivalent. I'd say vector<char> unless you really want to use it in 'stringy' ways (printing, parsing, substringing, find_last_of etc)
 
user142019
Maybe you can even vectorize it, but I'm not exactly sure how that works.
 
user142019
@MarcusStuhr Use Fortran. :D
 
11:59 PM
Hehe
 
@MarcusStuhr Ah.. that makes sense. I was confused why you seemed a bit sloppy with C++ and haven't used it in a while.
 

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