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12:00 AM
@JohanLarsson can you please then give me a char takes 16 bits ?
 
@Billo.S I don't understand and can probably not answer any way
 
@JohanLarsson Thank you anyway , I wonder if I can get anyone's help around here !
 
@Billo.S As long as you do it for learning it is fine I guess but I would advice not to use it :)
 
@JohanLarsson Try my shit rudiv.se/SharpTest.exe
 
@Billo.S If anyone knows they will anser, hang around for a while and hopefully someone better than me sees your questions
 
12:02 AM
@JamieTownsend Download my shit and try the "cloud" stuff rudiv.se/SharpTest.exe :D
Or tomorrow, when it's not midnight
Eugh
 
but @JohanLarsson why you don't advice me to use it ? Please give me a reason ?
 
@RudiVisser whoa, an exe from you. phobia panic :)
 
@JohanLarsson lol, it's a "live" editor, ie. you write and it will compile / show the output, good for quick testing etc + now sharing stuff
Only very basic
 
"Security is hard. Don't invent your own crypto" – SLaks yesterday
SLaks is one of the top posters on the entire SO, I trust him
@RudiVisser linqpad?
 
Perhaps
Never used LinqPad, the idea is probably the same, just more shit :) (I mean mine)
 
12:06 AM
"entire SO" @JohanLarsson What does that means ?
 
Writing your own algorithm is crap, basically, why bother when industry professionals have done it for you? Use SHA512
 
ok, I will click it after I've seen that Jamie can still be banned after using it
 
@JohanLarsson lol that's fine, feel free to dotpeek the shit out if before you run it or whatever; not gonna virus you up in here ;)
(Maybe in the bedroom)
Speaking of, I think it's time for bed! Good night SO!
 
@Billo.S SO StackOverflow, SLaks is one of the very best
 
@RudiVisser wouldn't it be more secure and great if no knew how to decrypt the data but you ? for your own protecion ?
 
12:08 AM
gnight
 
gnight
 
@Billo.S No, because they will. Protect your keys
Use asymmetric (or whichever one requires pub/priv keys) and use it correctly. You can't go wrong
 
no one is protected when algorithms are available for everyone :)
 
Yes they are if they don't have the keys
 
@RudiVisser Right ?
what keys you mean ?
 
12:09 AM
Your encryption keys
 
Uha
 
@Billo.S everyone is protected when the algorithm is available for everyone. Then everyone can try to break it and flaws can be found
until you click on rudis exe that is
 
Yeah, then I own you
 
what exe ?
 
SkyNet begiiiiiiiiiiin!
The exe of all exes
 
12:12 AM
@Billo.S I was joking (trying to)
 
I need to add a folder to the "Favorites" in windows file explorer programticallly, anyone know where I should start. I've been googling and I found Internet explorer favorites I need the File Explorer favorites
 
Oh , GOD !
 
@Justin %USERPROFILE%\Favorites idk if it works
 
Oh GOD, what?
 
@Justin His computer became part of my version of SkyNet
 
12:14 AM
we all know data could be in serious danger if algorithms are available to everyone right ?
 
@JohanLarsson that's IE Favorites I need to add to the list of file explorer favorites
 
@Billo.S No that is not true at all
 
@Justin I didn't mean that to You ! sorry
@RudiVisser Prove it please ?
 
I think that is the opposite of true even
 
.... prove it?
 
12:15 AM
yup
 
ssl is proof?
The most widely used encryption I think and open source
 
This is what I need
 
@Justin %USERPROFILE%\Favorites takes me there
 
well @JohanLarsson have you seen this ?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fproductforums.google.com%2Fd%2Ftopic%2Fgmail%2F3J3r2JqFNTw&ei=5uTcUPXzMMTwsgaaqICwCA&usg=AFQjCNHQvlfm6ASk5RiAYOWUwgHpkTOoyQ&sig2=xugc0MDbp6L7JXn0xYhJ3w&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.Yms
 
@Billo.S but that is an example of it working no?
 
12:18 AM
MITM is not possible with SSL in 99.999% of cases
 
all I'm saying guys ,, is when you write your own encrypting function ,, no one will ever know what is going on !
and you'll be more protected
 
@JohanLarsson No it takes me to IE favorites, not what I'm talking about here
 
Until they look.
In which case you're 150% less protected...
 
how can they @RudiVisser ?
 
..........
By looking at your code?
 
12:20 AM
@RudiVisser or until someone replaces it
 
Exactly
 
how can they look at my code ?
 
What language are you using?
 
Delphi
 
Very easily
 
12:21 AM
??
 
@Justin ok it works for me
 
"when you write your own encrypting function ,, no one will ever know what is going on !" - not true - have you released a popular application and seen it reversed engineered into assembly and recompiled to skip over the security checks?
 
@Billo.S Any application can be decompiled with ease so the underlying code can be reverse engineered. Delphi with its metadata (of course not as much as .NET) makes it even easier.
^ What @JeremyThompson said
 
@JeremyThompson nope , actually I'm not that expert , I'm a begginer in Delphi Learning
 
@JohanLarsson what do you see, a list of link shortcuts right.... this is not what I need I need the place where FOLDER favorites exsit so I can add a folder like Dropbox does programitcally to the side bar in windows FILE explorer not internet explorer. I don't need to create internet shortcuts, thank you.
 
12:24 AM
This is general computing knowledge, not Delphi
 
always rely on proper cryptography, the person who wrote the encryption algorithm should not be able to crack it.
 
@JeremyThompson How many people can read assemble?
 
well MD5 is not secure anymore is it ?
 
MD5 is not an encryption algorithm
 
I know
 
12:25 AM
and "secure" is relative
 
But if it's hashing
 
MD5 is not encryption it is just a hash and no it's the worldest easiest hash to circumvent using hash tables
 
You will never be able to get the real value of the hash without brute force for known values or collisions
 
user142019
Good afternoon.
 
12:26 AM
@Zoidberg'-- help me
 
sigh
It's not a decrypter
 
user142019
@Justin what is your problem?
 
It Uses Rainbow Tables
 
@Justin sry you are right, getting tired here
 
Argh it's bedtime
Long story short @Billo.S, don't write your own.
Good night
 
12:28 AM
thank you @RudiVisser
Thank You all Guys for the advice !
thank you @JohanLarsson
 
I'm trying to find a way to porgramitcally add a folder to the win7/8 file explorer favorites list.
All people keep giving me is the IE internet favorties folder which I don't need
 
what language are u using @Justin ?
 
@Zoidberg'-- Did you get that?
 
user142019
@Justin I'm confused. I just came in.
 
My installer is written in .net so I'll accept c#
 
user142019
12:30 AM
Installers are terrible.
 
read a few lines up
@Zoidberg'-- not this one it does everything for you, all you do is click install
 
user142019
That's the problem. I have no control over where it puts files.
 
user142019
Just ship a ZIP with an executable and all files it needs.
 
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Q: How do I programmatically add a folder to the user's Favorites (in Windows Explorer)?

Jeremy ThompsonI am looking for a way to programmatically add a folder to the Favorites in Windows Explorer. So far I've tried Process Monitor and searching the registry, but I can't seem to find my Windows Explorer Favourites in regedit.

@Justin
 
12:31 AM
@Zoidberg'-- You won't mind... admit it. Lol, Win8 doesn't give you any control over file location either
 
user142019
Registry stuff and whatnot, just do that on first launch.
 
user142019
I don't use Windows 8.
 
user142019
I only use Windows because I dislike Mono.
 
user142019
For all other things I use Arch Linux.
 
user142019
(And OS X for music.)
 
12:33 AM
@Zoidberg'-- I need to install the .net framework and the c++ redist package and do a lot of minipulating of the files
Install takes a bout 2-3 minutes
 
@Justin got my answer ?
 
user142019
Oh including .NET.
 
@Billo.S That is the same thing... goes to the wrong place, that answer is wrong
 
it's marked as accepted by the asker
it can't be wrong
unless it's not what you want !
 
@Zoidberg'-- Yep. Since Microsoft can only guantretee me that one of the lesser versions of .net are installed I created the installer to verify that right versions get installed
 
12:35 AM
@Justin the asker happens to be in this room
 
@JohanLarsson read it it points to the same IE favorites thing... I'm looking for windows folder like he was and he didn't get the right answer. He proply just accepted it and hoped it was right. Then rue-the-day when it was wrong
 
@Justin ok I dunno but the asker is here now, he left
 
actually that's what the asker commented "THANKS! That directory %USERPROFILE%\Favorites has them:) I'd vote you up, if I had 15 points:"
 
found it!!! "userprof/links"
 
what is the solution then will be @Justin ?
 
12:41 AM
add a folder shortcut to userprof
/links
 
Hi all
@Scott Wegner Hi!
 
I thought I was sick, then my wife came home and puked four times.
stupid friends with kids bringing their children plagues over.
 
12:58 AM
hahaha - when people leave
there is a little bob sled that takes them away
 
@JohanLarsson how can I give you my exe to try it out , really ?
 
uhh it would be pointless for two reasons:
1) I would not click/run it :)
2) I'm rusty/suk using IDA so would take me a very long time to reverse it
 
SLEIGH
 
@Billo.S if you were not convinced not to write your own algorithm nothing is stopping you. But I feel you got some solid advice both here and as reply/comments to your question
 
Why ? Matter of malware ? doesn't SO fight these things and prevent them ? secondly I am not that advanced programmer , but it's ok
ok @JohanLarsson ,, I'll keep using this algorithm as long as it doesn't eat up my encrypted data and damage them ,, but I'll also consider using ready cryptos . In both cases it's worth a shot ! don't you agree ?
 
1:08 AM
hey how do I get the location of the user folder c:\users\user using the envomrent or the my namespace
?
 
@Billo.S I agree that it is your choice
 
Wait.... @Billo.S is trying to write his own encryption? lolno.
 
thanks again @JohanLarsson
any suggestion @Billdr ?
 
@Justin Isn't it something like %userprofiledirectory%?
What's wrong with AES?
 
that's what's wrong with AES ,,,

http://www.cryptosystem.net/aes/
 
1:14 AM
@Billdr .net wouldn't accept the shortcut command
 
someone's geocities page has a problem with AES?
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Q: How can I get the current user directory?

jmfsgUsing this: Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ApplicationData) I get this output: "C:\\Documents and Settings\\[USER]\\Application Data" How can I get "C:\\Documents and Settings\\[USER]\\" ?

 
well you read what was written right ? @Billdr
 
Not yet, was helping someone with a real problem first.
taking a look.
 
my whole point @Billdr
is that when you make your own way of encryption no one could tell (if you protected it well) what is the real data !
 
"...which is ONLY very slightly faster than brute force."
Oh good, they'll have it solved by the death of the sun instead of the death of the universe.
 
Billo, are you a full time cryptographer?
Do you have an advanced degree in mathematics?
 
no no
 
Then why do you think you can do a better job of cryptography than people who do?
Your argument is you'll obtain security through obscurity, which is a fallacy.
 
I am a normal Delphi Leaner
I actually designed a program
that encrypts data
 
Good luck with that.
 
1:21 AM
Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.UserProfile));
 
thanks @Billdr
 
@Billo.S dont use your own encryption
do it properly
 
@JeremyThompson any clarifications please ?
 
I have been down that path - using my own security
 
yes ,, and ?
 
1:25 AM
and I wrote really popular software and it got reversed engineered. Although this program was VB6 and before the .Net days of being able to sign assemblies - so there isn't much I couldn't have done to not get hacked - except put heaps more security checks in place throughout the source code
 
got reversed engineered ?
 
but in this day and age people will brute force hack your application using VM's, or reverse eng/ with tools like IDA pro
thats why implementing your own security is worse off than using a prupose built library from some encryption boffin
 
Uhaaaaaa !
So that's why people go after ready libraries ?
to avoid reverse engineering !
@JeremyThompson , Can you be more kind and tell me about reverse engineering tools a bit ?
 
@Billo.S you can not avoid reverse engineering, hence you might as well use the best code available?
 
^
 
1:30 AM
@Billo.S Try downloading IDA, it is free (old versions) or watch some tutorials
 
yes @JohanLarsson , I'll be using libraries ,, Thanks For that very much
 
WOAH! @AnnaLear said something. There's a star, we have proof.
 
@Billdr there were flags today, again :(
 
thank you so much @JohanLarsson
you were very kind !
 
np, all in C# are very kind, always!
 
1:34 AM
What got flagged?
 
Yes all in c# are very kind I admit !
 
I'm a dick sometimes.
 
@Billdr something Jamie wrote, I think it was c*nt
 
that'd probably do it.
 
 
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4:27 AM
Speak Kyle, speak.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:45 AM
@all: chat room to technology of Facebook development which needs discussion

Fb App Devlopers

Facebook apps related developement regarding any SDK
 
6:05 AM
Hello Guys did anyone try c# in VS 2012
MVC platform
 
R 1
6:19 AM
friends i have one query related to c# can anyone explain this and let me clarify it i m confused
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Q: Stack Trace : at System.Web.HttpServerUtility.ExecuteInternal() || Error executing child request for handler in MVC 2.0

R 1While Deploying my MVC 2.0 project in to server i'm getting this following error.Locally everything is fine.I want to figure out this error. We have used HttpWebRequest for this functionalty. For entire site Glossary search we have created this Control library.Locally the searching is happening...

 
6:45 AM
@R1: reboot your system...
 
R 1
dai
 
@R1: try that, still tat didnt work means, restart ur server... still not work means, change your platform, still didnt work means change ur company
 
R 1
adpavi...
 
7:24 AM
good morning
 
Hi, I don't know why my project is not load . I have created a MVC3 application. Now I am starting to modify by I am not able open in VS2010 with the MVC4
 
8:13 AM
morning
 
morning
 
8:46 AM
Morning everyone. :)
 
@Billdr Woof!
 
@AndréSilva did you get the stuff to work yesterday?
I did not love the idea to store things in a dictionary like you did, think I would have preferred a List<DataClass> but you probably had reasons
 
@JohanLarsson Yeah it worked. But I used another solution.
 
Not that I did not like yours.
It is just that it is easy to comprehend..
And I'm sure, if I put that code in the system, that will haunt me for ages..
 
8:58 AM
lol, it was somewhat ugly :)
 
yay one of our admins killed our testenvironment :)
including all testdatabases
 
Hurray o/
 
guess I'm going home early today
 
@JohanLarsson Not that it was ugly. But it was difficult to understand that regex. Future maintenance would fuck somebody up.
 
that is one of the downsides with regexes, they read poorly
 
9:00 AM
he just wanted to put a new RAID Controller in...now the whole server doesn't start anymore
 
no fun for that guy, I can feel his pain all the way from Sweden
 
haha ;). Sadly our TFS was not hosted on that thing, so technically, I can still work. Damn it.
 
9:17 AM
damn :( he managed to get the server running again
 
10:04 AM
sup ppl
 
@ActionHank :D Hi
 
lo
I just found out deadmau5 is an American :O
 
Morning
 
aloha @Buba1947
 
@Buba1947 hej, you got your pic working
 
10:15 AM
yup :D
^-^
 
wow...this chatroom is clam today...it's almost too calm
 
'its quiet... too quiet'
 
@SteffenWinkler We'll have to wait for Jamie and Rudie to start going nuts, or perhaps someone ask a question?
 
Calm ?
Lets ping EVERYONE !!
@JohanLarsson @SteffenWinkler @ActionHank @Buba1947 @TomW !!
@JohanLarsson @SteffenWinkler @ActionHank @Buba1947 @TomW FEAR THE DOOMPING !!
 
nice one bro
 
10:21 AM
@JohanLarsson probably
@AndréSilva ...thanks ;)
@ActionHank yeah, that
 
I'm really hungry right now.
But my boss is going to pay everyone lunch
So that means I'll starve until lunch time. :)
 
that sounds awfully good @AndréSilva
 
haha starving for free lunch. Wait what?
 
@ActionHank Yep. Going to make my boss regret his decision to pay lunch instead of raising incomes..
 
Speaking of raises
 
10:23 AM
Nah, just kidding. I'm going to eat something in a minute..
 
I always get sick when eating in Brazil, have had a couple of brushes with the dreaded frango
 
last year I got a company car. Is it reasonable to ask for a raise this year?
 
I'll probably eat like a hippo w/o eating early.
@JohanLarsson brushes ?
@ActionHank Last year? You need something every year
 
@AndréSilva a company car costs them > 500 euros a month
 
Asking won't cost you anything right ?
 
10:25 AM
@AndréSilva encounters? idk
 
it costs me money too though, we have this tax on company cars
 
@JohanLarsson Do you know the name in portuguese?
 
@AndréSilva you're right about that
 
Well. I'm going to have breakfast right now.
 
@AndréSilva Tenho comido frango no Brasil um par de vezes, sempre feito com doentes
 
10:26 AM
hooray my python message survived the night in stardom!
 
We named McDonalds McStomach when we were in Brazil, the only safe place to eat :)
(I dislike McDonalds in general)
 
@JohanLarsson when I'm on a trip usually the first night is McDonald's :P only place I know is 'safe'
damnit, I worked my ass of this week for a side project, and now it is finished and sent to my friend he doesn't even reply!
 
10:42 AM
i feel the c++ room has a much funnier description than we do:

Lounge<C++>

Today we're daydreaming about C++26 reflection
 
We should get 'C++ not even once' as our tagline
 
yeah, it fits C#
 
C# = C++;
 
@SteffenWinkler HOW
 
well...another notation would be C# = C +1;
 
10:46 AM
C# = (C++)++
 
ah
damn
right
 
I do not get it
are you referring to the musical note
or what
 
no
dafuq?
 
Increment C twice, C+=2
C incremented once C++, twice C#?
 
yes
thanks
 
10:48 AM
ah
C# actually feels more like Java++ to me
please don't hit me
 
@ActionHank why would anyone do that? That is a good thing right?
 
@JohanLarsson have you seen youtube.com/watch?v=FiRZwBX3wZo ?
 
@ActionHank yep, it is fun. In Norwegian too
Norwegian is more similar to Swedish than most Swedish dialects
 
So you're saying you don't need subtitles?
 
nope
Interesting detail @0:49, two guys with not much clothes in bed experimenting with java, Freud stuff?
 
10:59 AM
@JohanLarsson now you're just messing with me
 

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