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12:37 AM
 
12:50 AM
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy
Someone please lock that meta post. Please
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels a few mods have been trying to keep it under control via comment deletion.
 
@RyanM: thank you
 
 
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3:25 AM
(could also be considered a duplicate, though I think that only partially covers it)
 
 
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:D
 
6:51 AM
I don’t know why I can’t find it, but do we have an MSO post for “Here’s some code in X language - please re-write it in Y language for me?”
 
@CertainPerformance Thank you! If you’re curious, here’s what I tried searching for bing.com/…
 
7:44 AM
Is this possibly an answer?
 
8:02 AM
I'm not sure if this counts as a screenshot of the day or not.
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8:36 AM
@JeanneDark I'd say no, if the post didn't have a link the answer only says "there's a ticket" but that ticket could be literally anything.
 
Thank you
 
8:52 AM
^^^ do we really have "kudvenkat" spam recently as discussed in comments in this question? It was removed too fast and I could have missed some details. If yes, does question reported by SD above qualify?
 
@gnat See metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/… - it appears to be part of a pattern. I've custom flagged.
 
9:19 AM
@gnat You can see the content by clicking the "MS" link to MetaSmoke. TL;DR: Yes.
 
9:36 AM
@gnat Yes, there have been quite a few. It's definitely being actively promoted. There, however, a significant number of older posts which mention the channel in one capacity or another. I haven't gone through all of the older, currently non-deleted ones, so there may be more where it's reasonable to delete and/or remove the mention, but at least some appeared that they were legit mentions.
 
 
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11:17 AM
 
@cigien @Dharman Could this be binned please? I meant it to be a flag-pls, not a del-pls, but misclicked.
 
@cigien → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
11:33 AM
@cigien Looks like it is programming related to me, but I voted to close as opinion-based.
 
@StephenOstermiller Oh, interesting, it doesn't read like a programming question to me.
 
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12:27 PM
 
12:41 PM
This question has been utterly changed by an edit after being closed as a dupe. Any suggestions as to what to do about it? Roll-back the edit? Mod-flag? Downvote and move on?
 
@AdrianMole I rolled back, otherwise the duplicate closure looks like nonsensical
also the edit made the question blatantly off-topic, can only delete or roll-back
 
I saw it in the reopen queue. After your rollback, I left it closed.
 
12:58 PM
What was the policy on wrong-language answers again? In this case a user is posting Python answers on MATLAB questions, which aren't easily adapted (the specified library has no equivalent in MATLAB)
 
@Adriaan Either post 20k+ request here or flag for mod attention explaining that they posted an answer in the wrong language
 
@Dharman thanks
 
1:24 PM
@ThierryLathuille They need a dictionary in addition to a Python course
 
1:56 PM
oooh, there is a secret flagging hat. :))))
 
@StephenOstermiller which one?
 
yes, which one and how do I get it?
 
I've been trying to get that "Einstein" one, seems rare.
Actually the rarest one I think is the Verified checkmark. No idea what that could mean... e.g. SO does not have a user verification system.
 
@MarcoBonelli I wonder if you have to send them $9
 
@Dharman ah, I think we both have the hat Stephen is talking about, it's pretty obvious how to get it
@NathanOliver I was wondering that too :') I also tried sharing a post to Twitter just in case it was related, but no.
 
2:11 PM
nvm
 
@MarcoBonelli Maybe approved flags or something? Or approved edits? Or you approving edits?
^ staging ground
Can't visit the link...
 
@VLAZ I'd exclude approved edits as I saw it on a user with 7k rep
 
@VLAZ I addressed it in SG
 
@VLAZ wait what.. staging ground is live? What's that link :o
Oh just saw the volunteer chatroom, cool.
 
@MarcoBonelli Still in beta
 
2:18 PM
@Dharman image I flagged about 20 NAAs to get it
 
@MarcoBonelli I meant the link Smokey gave: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74812900 redirects to https://stackoverflow.com/staging-ground/74812900 and that's dead for me.
 
wth, I hate when they randomly change the site styles
this time they doubled up the classes on a selector for no reason... literally no other element on the site has the .s-sidebarwidget__yellow class, but they chained it together with .s-sidebarwidget as well... *facedesk*
 
@TylerH Did they break a user script, or just make things uglier?
 
Both, sort of. I had a user style that makes the announcements box not look like literal puke and they changed some of the selectors, breaking my color change
 
What's the minimum ratio of text to code required for a post? I'm trying to edit a new post to remove excess text, but it keeps telling me I don't have enough yet.
 
2:31 PM
@TylerH 🤮
 
@TarHalda I don't know that it is published
Is this one of your existing posts?
 
@TylerH Ok, thanks - no, it's a Staging Ground post
Ha, got it
 
OK, all site guidelines might be different there
 
OP self-deleted that Smokey report from the Staging Ground; but it was FP, anyhow.
 
@AdrianMole How did you know it was my Favourite Post?
(just to be clear: I did vote it fp)
 
2:49 PM
Community has Albert Einstein hat now
 
Community earned it by publishing the Theory of On-Topic Relativity
 
Community does not vote based on dice roll.
 
@TylerH Is this the one where if there are twins, they'd age differently whether they post on-topic or not?
 
@VLAZ I see you understand the gravity of the situation
 
jps
^ and the guy who answered the question (that I just CVed) is very productive. 14 Answers in the last hour. I already mod flagged and suggested the mods to give him a medal for his efforts ;)
 
2:55 PM
oh no, I'm turning into @AdrianMole
 
@TylerH Only at times
 
I think a gold badger reopened a question I had closed as dupe just to post an answer to it. What should I do? Re-close? Flag?
 
@MarcoBonelli Don't think you can re-close, unfortunately...
 
@jps Looks like suspicious activity to me; the user is posting in-depth answers minutes after questions are asked in C#, R, Python, Angular, and Swift, all within a span of about 15 minutes? You may want to flag and ask them to run the answers against ChatGPT
 
If the dupe was good, definitely flag the question.
 
2:58 PM
That's a fairly diverse range of languages to know so well you can answer questions with in-depth code immediately
 
@VLAZ an interesting, didn't know
 
jps
@TylerH the guy should at least earn a secret AI hat in the bash ;)
 
@jps It's very secret. It shows up as having 1 rep for up to 30 days.
 
jps
and of course I already flagged an answer, it's 99.98 fake according to the huggingface detector
@VLAZ that lasts longer than the winter bash :)
 
@jps Only select few get this very special secret hat. They are hand-picked by mods. Can't trust an automatic trigger with something so prestigious.
 
3:04 PM
@jps True, it may be due to winterbash, but it seems unusual even for that. I raised a mod flag for that and for another thing I noticed
 
jps
@TylerH all kidding aside, 16 answers in a little more than an hour, an extreme diverse range of tags... I already flagged the first answer more than an hour ago, it scored 99.98% on the fake detector.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is chatgpt. Another answer that a language SME said is not even in the right language. Add Perl and C to the list of languages that user is allegedly an expert it
 
jps
and he already got some upvotes and accepts for his efforts. But also at least one downvote and comment as of now.
 
Yeah. Huzzah for another pile of flags for mods to investigate :-)
 
jps
3:19 PM
and how will this super expert respond to comments asking for clarification when he has no subject knowledge. Maybe feed the comment into the AI?
 
@Dharman Is that the one for Suggested Edit reviews? The Community Bot claims those for anything other users "Improve", IIRC.
 
@AdrianMole yes
 
I still waiting for it. I have now made 20 SE reviews ... but I'm not sure what the term, "complete" means, in this context. Does it mean I have to be the one who actually finished off the review?
Same for the funny blue hat I'm now wearing. The Meta.SE post claims it's for 10 CV reviews but I only got it after 20.
Anyway, we're off-topic. All this hat talk will just agitate and annoy TylerH. ;-)
 
argle bargle
 
3:37 PM
@TylerH Thanks for that! You made my day (just got the Chatterbox hat). -P
 
Hello. A few days ago I was searching SO for an answer to my question and found some solution, I supplemented it and quoted it in my two answers №1 №2 to questions that I encountered during my search for an answer. My answers turned out to be duplicates, so one of them (№2) was deleted (if it is inevitable I would prefer to have the answer №1 to the less popular question deleted).
I have modified this (№2) answer slightly and hope that it can be undeleted as it offers a viable alternative to the other answers and I hope for its usefulness. I was looking for a moderator's chat room to quickly close this incident for me and hopefully I come to the right place. I also flagged my updates a few days ago, but haven't waited for a response.
 
3:47 PM
@kirogasa Only a diamond moderator can undelete that No.2 answer. You should raise a custom flag asking for that and wait. Also, asking for action(s) on your own posts is not allowed in this room.
 
@kirogasa I hate to say it, but even your #1 answer doesn't seem useful either. Your answers are almost entirely copied. Yes, they are properly attributed, but there's nothing new there
Why are those questions not duplicates? Different language, but same root Chromium problem?
And #2 looks like you rearranged the deck chairs. I don't see a substantial difference
 
@Machavity I thought it might be duplicate questions, but there are different error codes in the questions, my knowledge is not enough for this judging. I think if the error codes are different, the errors are not fixed, and there is one answer to hide the error messages, then in that case, duplicate answers is the only way.
 
4:15 PM
Mac that is a mod gave you some inputs on the answer, but just for reference what you can do is delete the answer you like to be deleted and then mod flag
(custom flag) your deleted answer and ask for undeletion (explain that you have deleted the other)... now if mod will undelete or not is up to them, in any case you will have an offical mod explain in response to your flag... if it's not what you like you can always bring it to meta... (watch out on meta, mods follow pretty much what meta likes)
 
FWIW he does have a flag on the deleted one. It's just stuck somewhere in that mountain of flags
 
ahh ok.. yeah then they only need to delete the one that is up.
 
jps
4:39 PM
@TylerH seems that super clever guy now deleted the answers on which he got comments mentioning chatGPT and downvotes
 
Good thing I already flagged them and mods can see deleted posts :-)
@Machavity you know, that MSE role recommendation of 'plagiarism mod' is a pretty good idea, I am betting :-)
 
5:32 PM
 
may I place a for my own tag wiki edit here in SOCVR? It is sitting in the edit queue for +15hours with no views...
 
@Vickel Don't think so. You're involved.
 
^ exactly
 
@VLAZ That's why I asked
 
Also, 15 hours is low. My last tag wiki took a bit over a week to be actioned. And apparently I was lucky - many seem to wait at least three weeks to a month...
I mean, that's bad but just wanted to let you know.
 
6:52 PM
@jmoerdyk I saw 8 views, -8 score. nice
 
@VLAZ isn't there a bot @ SOBotics supposed to pick up tag wiki and tag info edits? Ah, yes I know how long it takes, done it before...
 
Just get moar rep, then you don't need approval ;)
 
@NathanOliver haha... true, specially with my niche tag codeigniter, workin hard since 9 years :)
 
 
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8:06 PM
@KarlKnechtel perfection
 
 
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9:14 PM
Henry Ecker and blackgreen have been called up as mods
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Go us~
 
The great Mop and Bucket await
 
I just want to point out that sideshowbarker has already handled >7k flags, but we need more help.
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9:32 PM
woohoo!
Secret hat: get called up as a moderator during winter bash
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Sorry, Adrian...
 
Congrats peps. That said I'm not so happy that in a month we've gone from we only need one mod to we need three mods
 
Unfortunately with ChatGPT the workload probably spiked unexpectedly, I'm guessing
in addition to the gradual increase in plagiarism and other issues
 
eh
we needed 3 to begin with
 
ChatGPT maybe but there can't have been that big of an increase in the existing workload.
 
Congrats @HenryEcker and @blackgreen on you new shiny diamond. I heard they are freshly mined every morning for new mods
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9:44 PM
No, but seriously, we loved the candidates this year so much that we just had to get some more as mods.
 
/o/
 
this is just ruining the pool for the next election
 
@KevinB You're gonna have to run after all 🚽
 
Vote KevinB for Porcelain Mod!
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If Kevin wins, can his moderator symbol be a 🚽 instead?
 
9:46 PM
@Dharman Very impressive statistic in its own right!
@Spevacus lmao
 
i'll just change my avatar to 🚽 if that happens
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@Dharman wow
 
great april fools prank
@Catija a staff endorsement, nice
 
I did not actually vote in the last election.
 
The number of mod flags decreased by 10% in the last month.
 
9:49 PM
what is it at now?
1k
 
1849
 
@Dharman is that pending flags?
 
yes, pending custom mod flags
it was over 2k at some point
 
November 22nd 2409
 
wait, the number has gone down even with ChatGPT happening?
 
9:51 PM
The policy and banner about ChatGPT probably helped
 
slightly, yes
but it's not at zero yet
 
even the accidental insertion of it into SEO metadata probably helped :-P
 
@Ethan Was it really that high?
 
If it's trending down then why do we need even more mods?
 
It's not trending down fast enough :)
 
9:52 PM
Why not? Free work force
 
@Dharman according to the screenshot the mod posted on the election results question
 
With more mods some of us may get freed up to handle other stuff, e.g. burninations, searching for voting fraud, searching for plagiarism, etc.
 
@Dharman then why didn't we get more mods to begin with?
 
@NathanOliver They were scared there would not be enough canidates
 
The primary reason why we agreed on one slot was the trending downwards number of candidates each year. We weren't sure if were going to get enough candidates even for a single slot
 
9:56 PM
Why are the number of candidates dropping each year? Are there less people sticking around long-term and participating in curation than we had in the past?
 
The call-up would happen eventually in the next six months. CGPT only sped it up by a lot.
 
Many of the candidates in the last three elections are relatively new users; especially the most recent one. I think all the 'long-term' users who want to be mods are already mods.
 
i mean
not all
 
And then there was that Monica-Mod fiasco, which we aren't allowed to talk about, any more.
 
2 of the remaining 3 candidates from the last election aren't new users
 
10:03 PM
Well, the Monica fiasco happen in 2019 and the number of candidates was halved in the next mod election. I will say it is the main reason I haven't and won't run for mod.
 
i mean, technically all three i guess, but...
well, they've fixed one of my issues with running recently
 
... and then the Shog She9igans.
 
that didn't help either
It also doesn't help that user constantly see that mods don't have the tools they need, even though those tools have been requested for years
 
(Sorry, I should raise that in the AI chat-room.)
 
@AdrianMole I binned that as we don't link to users
 
10:12 PM
Yep. I realized my folly almost immediately.
 
*grabs rolled-up newspaper*
 
🧻
 
10:30 PM
@Machavity As the prophesy foretold. :)
 

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