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7:12 AM
@ElectionBot who should I vote for?
 
@VLAZ The election has not started yet. The nomination phase is starting at 2022-11-07 20:00:00Z (in 7 days).
 
 
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12:40 PM
Who are the current mods
 
@blackgreen The current 27 moderators are: Adam Lear, Brad Larson, Ry-, ChrisF, Flexo, animuson, Bohemian, Martijn Pieters, user229044, Jon Clements, josliber, Undo, deceze, Russia Must Remove Putin, Cody Gray, Andy, Samuel Liew, Rob, Jean-François Fabre, Baum mit Augen, Makyen, Machavity, Stephen Rauch, Dharman, Zoe stands with Ukraine, Ryan M, Michael Myers
 
nice
How many are eligible to vote
 
@blackgreen 894,916 users are eligible to vote in the election.
 
How is candidate score calculated
 
@blackgreen The 40-point candidate score is calculated this way: 1 point for each 1,000 reputation up to 20,000 reputation (20 points); and 1 point for each of the 8 moderation, 6 editing, and 6 participation badges (20 points)
 
12:43 PM
What do moderators do
 
@blackgreen Elected ♦ moderators are essential to keeping the site clean, fair, and friendly by enforcing the Code of Conduct. They are volunteers who are granted additional privileges to handle situations regular users can't, like investigating sockpuppet accounts, suspending users, migrating questions to any network site, and performing post redactions.
 
...also they delete comments
@ElectionBot wait Adam Lear isn't a mod
 
@blackgreen Nobody knows why.
 
animuson isn't either
@ElectionBot who is the best moderator?
 
@blackgreen shhh... elixenide is the best mod!
 
12:53 PM
well played
 
 
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2:45 PM
It's early but I went ahead and posted the question collection post if y'all want to start recommending questions
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Q: 2022 Moderator Election Q&A – Question Collection

CatijaStack Overflow is scheduled for an election next week, 2022-11-07. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary...

 
3:29 PM
Election already?
What is my candidate score?
@ElectionBot hi
 
Bot is being updated
 
3:49 PM
ok
 
@ElectionBot are you being updated?
 
> 'Cause i wan' all teh powr
 
4:06 PM
@ElectionBot testing
 
@AnnZen error - AI not installed
 
@ElectionBot hi
 
I'm sorry to interfere, but... The election has not begun yet. I can answer frequently-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@ElectionBot help
 
Election FAQs I can answer (more in https://github.com/samliew/se-electionbot#readme):
- What is an election
- How to nominate myself
- How to vote
- Who should I vote for
- How is candidate score calculated
- What is my candidate score
- What are the mod/participation/editor badges
- What is the election status
- When is the next phase
- How many are eligible to vote
- Who are the candidates
- Who are the current mods
- What do moderators do
- What is Single Transferable Vote (STV)
 
4:11 PM
What is my candidate score
 
@AnnZen Wow! You have a maximum candidate score of 40! Please consider nominating yourself in the election!
 
How many are eligible to vote
 
@SamuelLiew 894,949 users are eligible to vote in the election.
 
How many are eligible to nominate?
 
Who are the current mods
 
4:12 PM
@AnnZen The current 25 moderators are: Brad Larson, Ry-, ChrisF, Flexo, Bohemian, Martijn Pieters, user229044, Jon Clements, josliber, Undo, deceze, Russia Must Remove Putin, Cody Gray, Andy, Samuel Liew, Rob, Jean-François Fabre, Baum mit Augen, Makyen, Machavity, Stephen Rauch, Dharman, Zoe stands with Ukraine, Ryan M, Michael Myers
 
What do moderators do
 
@AnnZen Elected ♦ moderators are essential to keeping the site clean, fair, and friendly by enforcing the Code of Conduct. They are volunteers who are granted additional privileges to handle situations regular users can't, like investigating sockpuppet accounts, suspending users, migrating questions to any network site, and performing post redactions.
 
What are the best offerings to give to moderators when flagging?
 
How to nominate myself
 
@AnnZen You can only nominate during the nomination phase. You'll need at least 3000 reputation, be at least 18 years old, have Civic Duty, Convention, Deputy, and Strunk & White badges, and can't have been suspended anywhere on the Stack Exchange network within the past year. You can't nominate others.
@VLAZ thoughts and prayers
 
4:14 PM
I was hoping for something I actually had, like cookies.
 
@ElectionBot scare me
 
How many mod flags are there?
 
@AnnZen It's not my job to please you, no.
@SamuelLiew The current size of the moderator flag queue is approximately 4000.
 
@ElectionBot lol
@ElectionBot help me
 
Election FAQs I can answer (more in https://github.com/samliew/se-electionbot#readme):
- What is an election
- How to nominate myself
- How to vote
- Who should I vote for
- How is candidate score calculated
- What is my candidate score
- What are the mod/participation/editor badges
- What is the election status
- When is the next phase
- How many are eligible to vote
- Who are the candidates
- Who are the current mods
- What do moderators do
- What is Single Transferable Vote (STV)
 
4:21 PM
@ElectionBot vote for me
 
@AnnZen I want to play a game.
 
@ElectionBot ok
 
I'm alive on electionbot.samliew.com, started on 2022-10-31 16:03:47Z with 1086 seconds of uptime.
 
@ElectionBot Oooh, fancy.
 
@Catija Tell that to the aliens.
 
4:51 PM
Samuel Liew has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
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Q: Would like to be able to vote on electing moderators when I see their actions

Bill KI don't vote on Moderator elections--I generally don't remember the names of moderators that I've seen do things I appreciated or disliked, I'd have to be taking daily notes. I just realized I'd really love to be able to vote for/against moderators early (perhaps up/down on their user page or a p...

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Q: Rethinking Moderator Candidate Score for SO

Machavity NOTE: There are going to be some who think this is about one particular candidate. I have thought about this for several election cycles, based on my own election experience and those I have watched run. Do not make this about one candidate please. I've wanted to address what has been a fairly ...

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Q: Is it appropriate to post on meta on why we think one particular existing candidate would be a great moderator?

Ann ZenThere have been plenty of examples where users post on meta to highlight the good deeds of other users, and such posts are usually well-received by the community. It's also the case that Suggesting or requesting that people nominate themselves in a moderator election is frowned upon. However, is ...

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Q: Calling up moderators from the 2021 election - welcome, Dharman & Ryan M!

CatijaThe mods here on SO have been busily handling the flag pile and keeping their socks matched up - they've also been picking up the tag burninations and other important work that it really helps to have a diamond attached to do. Because of the increased collection of activities on top of the flaggi...

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Q: 2022 Moderator Election Q&A – Question Collection

CatijaStack Overflow is scheduled for an election next week, 2022-11-07. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary...

 
@ElectionBot dat real?
 
@BhargavRao Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into!
 
Dang mods have become real lazy in the past year then
(just kidding, pls don't hurt me)
 
5:13 PM
in SOBotics, Oct 16 at 17:34, by Dharman
it's so strange. I am handling Bhargav Rao's flags
 
5:29 PM
@BhargavRao you're welcome to come back and pick up where you left off.
 
It would quite amusing if Bhargav comes back and finds flags he already saw before.
 
@Catija I've taken the role of the grandpa on the easy chair outside ... shouting at the kids and bragging about how I had to walk uphill both the ways to work. :p
But yeah, plagiarism flags are inherently hard to handle.
 
@BhargavRao The queue overwhelmingly consists of plagiarism flags
Well, that and decline target practice, AKA auto U/U
 
The robot's trying its best.
 
SIZE OF MOD FLAG QUEUE
 
5:42 PM
if you by best mean regex suffering from the Scunthorpe problem, sure
 
How many mod flags are there?
 
@ElectionBot How many mod flags are there?
 
@Spevacus What we've got here is failure to communicate.
 
Are these plagiarism flags on > 2015 posts or before that?
 
mostly before that
 
5:43 PM
Hmm, then how are you all handling those? ... Delete and DM the user?
 
There's 3443 mod flags atm
 
Or the question is, how are you planning to handle those?
 
1894 of which are custom flags, heavily dominated by plagiarism. 1.2k auto U/U flags, 156 NAA, 115 regular U/U
@BhargavRao With excruciating amounts of work :p
 
More like pointless additional work, lol.
 
Depends no how bad it is. If a user has plagiarised more than one, then we go through their posts, delete plagiarised ones and suspend the user
 
5:45 PM
Hah, so that essentially is "Hey stop doing what you have already stopped doing"
 
I just hide in comments atm :p
 
If the user hasn't been active in years, there's little point in suspending other than keeping track of what they've done
Sometime I don't even message a user
but I prefer to send a message even without an email notification just so that I can later easily see they were involved in mass plagiarism
 
There's always the brown number beside the orange one that already keeps track of those ..
 
if there were flags raises
but quite often mods find a lot more than a single flag was pointing at
 
And there are flags raised ..
 
5:48 PM
for example, a single plagiarism flag can lead to 20 deleted posts
 
Ah, yeah ... the Martijn way of handling
I'd still just annotate and leave. It doesn't make much sense to message folks who's last plagiarized post was in 2010 or sth
 
yeah I agree
 
6:01 PM
@Dharman Hey! It's your one-election anniversary of becoming a moderator. How's it going?
 
🚽
 
Don't think it's been that long
He got elected mid-way ... so half-election ;p
 
@BhargavRao ah
@ZoestandswithUkraine Hey! How's the moderation role treating you?
 
6:18 PM
@AnnZen A lot of work as a mod. Still, it hasn't been a year yet for me
 
6:35 PM
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Q: Why is there only 1 position open in the 2022 Moderator Election?

bad_coderI just noticed there's only 1 position open in the 2022 Moderator Election. This seems to be very few given that it's often said the workload for SO moderators is high and there aren't enough mods. Can someone explain why there's only 1 position open this year?

 
 
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7:42 PM
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score?
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine sorry, you already have a diamond! Just so you know, your score is 39 (out of 40). You are missing this badge: Sportsmanship.
 
disappointing. Was expecting more snark :p
 
@ElectionBot What is my candidate score?
 
@Spevacus You are not eligible to nominate yourself in the election as you do not have at least 3000 reputation. You are also missing the required badges: Convention, Strunk & White. Your candidate score is 8 (out of 40).
 
That's higher than I thought it would be.
 
7:46 PM
what is my candidate score
 
@KevinB Your candidate score is 36 (out of 40). You are missing these badges: Copy Editor, Marshal, Refiner, Steward.
 
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score?
 
@Dharman very funny, you already have a diamond! Just so you know, your score is 39 (out of 40). You are missing this badge: Sportsmanship.
 
Sportmanship is brutal
 
@KevinB How are you missing Copy Editor
It's so easy to get
Marshal is also an easy one to get
you can get these two before the election starts
 
7:53 PM
The sad truth is that it doesn't matter
mostly anyway. It's rep that counts
 
eh
i'm not gonna go out and do a bunch of stuff just to get a badge
if i ran i'm gonna do it with what i've actually done, not chase some checkmarks
 
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score?
Apparently incalculable...
@ElectionBot alive?
 
@VLAZ error - AI not installed
 
@ElectionBot What is the candidate score for chat.stackoverflow.com/users/3689450
 
What is my candidate score?
 
8:02 PM
@BhargavRao are you really sure you want to be a moderator again? Just so you know, your score is 40 (out of 40).
10
 
@ElectionBot What is the candidate score for chat.stackoverflow.com/users/3689450
 
@RyanM It's not my job to please you, no.
 
lol
 
@ElectionBot What is the candidate score for chat.stackoverflow.com/users/3689450
 
@RyanM The candidate score for user VLAZ is 39 (out of 40). The user is missing this badge: Refiner.
 
8:02 PM
@ElectionBot Ah yes, the "run while you still can" vibe
 
@ElectionBot Who are the former moderators?
 
@Spevacus The 23 former moderators are: SLaks, Lasse V. Karlsen, Robert Harvey, Kev, Tim Post, BoltClock, jjnguy, NullUserException, casperOne, Adam Lear, ThiefMaster, George Stocker, Gordon, animuson, Andrew Barber, Taryn, Mick MacCallum, Matt, Jeremy, Madara's Ghost, elixenide, TheLostMind, Bhargav Rao.
 
@ElectionBot Who will win the election?
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine The election has not started yet. The nomination phase is starting at 2022-11-07 20:00:00Z (in 6 days).
 
@ElectionBot Who hosts the betting pool?
disappointing
 
8:03 PM
@ElectionBot no Yvette?
 
I've got 2 rep on sideshowbarker
@VLAZ Perhaps because she deleted her profile?
 
Yvette deleted her account. Depending on how the bot is built, it's possible it doesn't know how to cope with deletions
 
Also no Bill the Lizard?
 
Why would we send the bill to Zuckerberg? /s
 
Or was Bill not elected? I forget. Might have been pro-tempore
 
8:05 PM
I don't think he was.
 
TIL I could've just invoiced myself a raise
though I personally prefer a payment strategy that does not land me in federal prison
 
@RyanM Just make an obviously fake invoice
"For services not rendered"
(For good measure, I'm not a lawyer, etc)
 
Ha. You joke, but that's also illegal because scammers actually do this sort of thing... they send things that look like invoices but say, somewhere, in small print, that they're actually a solicitation to purchase the listed services, hoping that businesses will think it's an invoice from one of their suppliers and pay it.
 
8:14 PM
Oh, I didn't mean small print
huge print. Under like, categories or whatever, put "being overall great"
you might get it out of pity :p
 
(e.g., you can't do this)
 
Just be completely honest: $1000 for sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll
 
or be super meta about it
say it's a 1500 dollar fee for paying the bill
 
"What if we don't pay the bill?"
"Then you don't owe any money as you haven't paid it."
 
8:24 PM
$1500 for fraudulent invoice generation
Can't claim the both the invoice is fraudulent and that the services weren't rendered!
 
Is it really fraudulent if the invoice is the service rendered and paying it accepts the service? To Philosophy.SE!
 
"1500 dollars for the sheet of paper this bill is printed on"
 
Add a picture of your pet and charge for the image.
"$1500 for the image of Corporal Hungrywhiskers printed on the other side of this invoice"
 
@VLAZ please tell me you actually have a cat named Corporal Hungrywhiskers
 
I don't :( But it's a very strong candidate if I ever get a cat.
 
8:36 PM
Funny names for animals are brilliant until you have to yell it while out in public
 
I mean, it's still funny even in public.
 
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score?
@ElectionBot alive?
 
help
 
@ElectionBot what is the candidate score for chat.stackoverflow.com/users/17493431?
 
Seems like it likes to take naps from time to time.
 
8:42 PM
No naps. Just working really hard...on other stuff.
 
hmmm. I think it's dead. @SamuelLiew
 
@Spevacus Can you blame it? Such a boring election. Where's guns?! And the coups?! And the campaign rallies with free pens?! Or the conspiracies!
 
We have a significant lack of pitchforks and torches and dynamite and Guy Fawkes masks.
 
dont give my any ideas
 
I mean, November 5th is right around the corner.
 
8:44 PM
Send lawyers, guns, money, and ElectionBot.
 
@Ethan I'm just saying, give me a fancy cup and you can have my vote :p
 
Lately there has been quite a few pitchforks on Meta. Just look around and you'll still find enough, I think.
 
... y'know, disregarding the part where you don't have enough rep to run
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine and the badges
 
You just need Convention.
 
8:46 PM
yea
What will I get first the convention badge or 3k rep?
 
Depends. Do you like answering SO questions or Meta questions?
Based on your meta profile, the former. So... 3k rep? :P
 
I do like answers code questions but its hard to find ones that I can answer that are not already answered (and accepted or way better then I can get mine)
 
With the accepted answer no longer pinned, if you answer questions that will be useful to people other than the asker, you can earn a bunch of rep even if the asker never reads your answer :-)
as long as your answer is better than the existing ones
 
@RyanM Also, as long as enough people can even find the Q&A...
 
Solution: edit the question to be more findable
there's even a badge for that!
 
8:53 PM
And hope the edit queue is not full
 
yeah that's a real problem lately I hear
 
having 2k is quite helpful there
 
Has been for years
 
Since I haven't really been in review queues recently and only been in chat rooms I almost never edit now a days
 
8:55 PM
I've heard the complaint with increasing frequency lately. Could be purely coincidence though.
 
I don't think the queue hasn't been full or nearly full in probably a few years
 
It's quite annoying that it's as full as it is. Especially when I see how bad some of the reviews that are clogging the queue up are. >:(
 
The platform should be notifying editors when their edits are rejected.
right now they just go on submitting the same crappy edits until a mod notices and tells them to please stop adding code formatting to every technology name in questions and suspends the half a dozen reviewers who voted to approve their edits.
 
The sad thing is that with the new wizard, we need even more edits to be done on all the things it spews out.
 
I probably bring it up too much, but I do feel like the edit privilege is a good candidate for exploration into privileges divorced from reputation. If you've got a good approval/reject percentage and have edited a decent amount, you likely shouldn't need to wait around for your edit to be reviewed.
 
9:04 PM
@Spevacus It's actually my go-to example for divorcing privileges from rep. That and full close privilege after enough flags.
 
Yeah, recommend closure flags seem like they'd be a good indicator as well.
 
9:32 PM
What is the candidate score for stackoverflow.com/users/-1
@ElectionBot What is the candidate score for stackoverflow.com/users/-1
:(
What is the candidate score for stackoverflow.com/users/1
 
EB ded
 
It would be cool when the SG releases people with like 1k rep can edit when a post in the SG to help the queue. Thought divorcing it from rep would be much better.
There was some talk in Charcoal HQ about letting mods give individual users the privilege to access review queues
 
I'd love to be able to vote on actions users take. Like their suggested edits, their duplicate suggestions, etc. Publicly facing actions in any case. And a user who gets enough positive score on a type of action might get the updated version. With that said, I feel it'd also be massively abusable. And misusable. So, I kind of also think it's absolutely not realistic thing but it's at least interesting to think about.
 
Yea. There's no perfect way to do these things from that to rep to other ranking systems like on discourse. All have their benefits and down sides
 
10:05 PM
IMO there should be a minimum rep to get started with most of the moderation tools, but it should be small, like 125, and you're just heavily limited in the count of items you can do per day. Bump the count up if your performance metrics show that you aren't causing problems and are using the systems correctly
What is the avg age of an account when it reaches 2k?
 
I do agree there should be some min amount of rep. Like 125 for the review queues, 250 for editing, 500 for CV and 1k for deletion.
 
we have people who've been active on the site for years and can't cast close/reopen votes
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@KevinB This can be done through SEDE. Do I know SQL and how to make the query? no.
 
i know enough sql that i probably could, but the number probably isn't necessary to make my claim
;)
the overwhelming majority of users aren't even at 125 rep, much less 2k, the only people who hit 2k in a reasonable amount of time are the ones who hit 20k a few months later
 
true
And for people like me that answer every few months but are active daily in moderation focus chat rooms it takes months to gain just 100 rep
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10:47 PM
@VLAZ EB FR DC FR CS M8
 
That's not valid hex
 
Everything can be a valid hex if you put some imagination into it
 
 
1 hour later…
11:51 PM
That's actually hexatridecimal, a 36-character alphabet that is still shortened to "hex" for the purpose of confusing readers.
 
See? imagination :p
 

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