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12:54 AM
^ yay, my SOCVR Chrome extension can now validate rule 11 (eligibility of del-pls requests) to finally stop me from trying to delete a self-dupe (on the same (!) post) answer with undisclosed affiliation because some ***** upvoted it twice
 
1:35 AM
what are our projects?
 
add script idea -s "Asker information" -r meta.stackoverflow.com/q/411587/11407695 -c 14297019
 
 
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6:51 AM
create repository -n better-home -d "Adds OP metadata to question feed" -t template
 
Created a templated repository for better-home
 
7:24 AM
@OlegValter You made your own user interface for the request generator? :)
 
@Scratte no, it is a completely standalone Chrome extension :)
 
Are you pulling my leg?!?
 
You made your own request generator?
 
yes :)
a long time ago
 
7:26 AM
Did you publish it?
 
but I've been working on it sporadically for the past year
@Scratte nope
create repo -n stackexchange-api-types -d "Stack Exchange API type definitions"
 
Created a repository for stackexchange-api-types
 
You're like an idea-generator :)
 
would be nice if execution lived up to ideas too :)
 
I think you'll need to invent a timeout-machine to be able to implement those in the same rate that you the ideas.
 
7:40 AM
ah, the one that stops time for the duration it is needed to implement an idea? :)
 
Yup.. that one. And you don't age while the timeout is ON :)
 
you are scarily close to describing some of my daydreams right now
 
I took the "Get into the mind of your local cat"-course ;)
 
8:22 AM
@OlegValter You need to edit your posts to include a thumbnail, so they don't show up like this. I've found that an image around 400x300 seems to be a good ratio for it. You add it on the top of your posts with a <!-- thumbnail: https://i.stack.imgur.com/xxxxx.png --> :)
 
I know :) I was lazy
I explicitly edited them out :)
 
Oh! I thought maybe you didn't know :)
I didn't at first. Now I always make one if it's relevant.
 
no, I noticed :) My mind just went like "oh, I have to make a thumbnail now? Posting on Stack Apps manually is exhausting as is" :)
 
If you edit them out, it will just try to fit whichever image you have on the post, and they don't always turn out very well.
I see it as my advertisement for my script :)
 
@Scratte yeah, I've seen how horrible mine look :)
I'll accept any help in this department
I am writing a type generator for SE API because I am fed up with manually writing them out every time I want to type-safely connect to the API
 
8:30 AM
Ahh.. so it I post some imgur images for you here, you'll add them in? :)
 
yup :)
 
nice :) If you submit this as an edit - I'll accept. If you don't want to - I'll get to it a bit later - busy scraping API docs :)
 
8:58 AM
good one!
 
I went through the first 5 pages on scripts and looked for ones that were off :)
Those two showed up
 
 
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2:00 PM
@Scratte yeah, sorry :)
 
2:40 PM
-21
Q: How do we determine whether a goal/activity/policy is a distraction or even make harmful to our core goal?

OokerThe Tour - Stack Overflow set our goal as "Ask questions, get answers, no distractions". The Code of Conduct - Meta Stack Exchange sets our expectations when participating in the site. I think occasionally there are proposals or problems that meet that expectation, but it's still unclear whether ...

^ the heck is this? This is probably the first time I can't parse the question
 
3:25 PM
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Q: Suggested edit review tasks are always trying to find the voting element

UnconsideredWhen I load a suggested edit task that is a tag wiki (including excerpts), I always get this error in the console: Uncaught ReferenceError: votesCast is not defined at Object.u [as success] (full.en.js?v=9dbde3c48422:9) at i (jquery.min.js:2) at Object.fireWith [as resolveWith] (jquer...

 
3:47 PM
Do any of you guys ask user to accept your answer? Many users thank me after answering their question, however they do not accept my answer. They accept nobody's answer to be honest.
 
@AKSingh nope, I never do
and flag as NLN any comment that asks for that unless the user is extremely new
 
I did it 2 times. I do not know whether its something to do or not.
 
@AKSingh generally, it is heavily frowned upon :)
there is nothing against the "law" per se, though
 
I asked new users but well.
Sometimes just doesn't feel good even though I have asked new users.
 
well, you see, what's the point in asking them to? First of all, acceptance is a really horrible metric of quality (that's why we now have it finally unpinned)
secondly, those who do not want to accept anything or do not care, will not, whether you ask them or not
 
3:58 PM
I agree with the second point. Accepting an answer does indicate its worth a try since it did work for someone.
 
thirdly, by asking to accept, you are reducing the chances for a competing answer to show up (thank you, @Scratte, this argument is beautiful)
 
Just an indication though, might not be true.
 
@AKSingh meh. Upvote does the same
acceptance, however, is either a net neutral or net loss. Never a benefit
 
I do see some familiar faces in SO now though.
 
huh?
 
4:00 PM
Especially in the regex and algorithms section.
 
familiar as in? :)
 
@OlegValter I have seen them commenting and answering questions a lot.
@OlegValter Did not understand this.
 
wait, you mean you see a lot of people that answer a lot that ask for acceptance?
@AKSingh think about it for a sec -
 
@OlegValter Nope. This is something different :)
 
accept marks (or whatever the platform chose to use) used to be the primary indicator "this is solved, carry on" on support forums and such
which literally means that once a person accepts, the chances for someone else to go open the question and provide an answer diminishes
which means less competition. Less competition is almost always a net loss
and, finally, there is an ethical dilemma
 
4:05 PM
It does diminish I agree. If its a good thing or a bad thing, that I am not sure of.
 
that's the main law of free market economy - the more competitive it is, the better the product
it's a proven thing, there is little to debate
SO is no different
on the note of ethics: to me, asking for acceptance or upvote is the same as helping someone on the street and then asking them to compensate you
 
@OlegValter Hmm, I do not have a counter argument. But still, it just one of the few things that did not sink in my mind peacefully.
@OlegValter Yeah, this does happen.
It happens to me at least. I wonder if there is someone who does not feel so.
 
@AKSingh well, this is a pretty easy thing :) Look at what happens to everything where a monopoly appears
a monopolist (in our case it is the person whose answer is accepted) has no incentive to improve
@AKSingh I am sure there are
 
Oh damn, real life calls.
Such an interesting conversation. I have to run though.
 
no need to give a heads up :)
 
 
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6:37 PM
@OlegValter I annotated your account on the userscripters team for testing.
 
user12867493
You can actually see a lot.
 
6:57 PM
Huh? Isn't this edit preference? I like them where they belong, not in the bottom.
 
7:32 PM
@Scratte It is.
 
Thanks. I rolled it back with an explanation.
I don't understand those types of edits :(
But.. at least there's no Answer on the post :D
Hmm.. half of the regex backtracking verbs don't backtrack :D
Should one drink coffee late in the evening?
 
7:50 PM
@Scratte Depends. Do you want coffee? Does coffee prevent you from sleeping? Do you want to sleep?
 
Booty! :)
 
I personally can down a cup and then happily go to bed.
 
I find it difficult to sleep after I've had coffee. But I really like coffee..
 
I know some people have trouble sleeping if they had coffee at some point in the afternoon.
 
7:52 PM
pong
 
I used to be able to drink lots of it and still be able to sleep..
Now I wake up after 3 hours of sleep and I'm really tired, but I can't fall back asleep :(
I need to invent a forever-youth pill or something.
I think I need to learn R for that.
 
I'm resistant to coffee, it seems. Not immune but in the morning I can happily drink two double coffees. And then have some more later.
I can also stop drinking coffee cold turkey with no ill effects.
I mostly like the taste. It does help me wake up but I also have caffeine tablets that can do that.
 
I have that too. When I'm somewhere else and there's no coffee, I'm the same.
 
My mom gets headaches if she doesn't have coffee.
 
They say coffee will make you live longer..
 
7:55 PM
It can help.
 
It messes with the energy in your cells. I'm guessing it stresses them just enough to enable some cleanup stuff. Sort of like red wine does.
 
My great grandfather apparently lived something like 20 years more than doctors predicted and he thanked coffee for it. Well, he also tried to live healthy - staying active and so on but he had a small coffee each day he claimed was the best thing.
Or so I've been told. He passed away before I was born. But well into his 80s, apparently.
 
They say nicotine will keep your mind clear. Some doctors even told elderly people to start smoking :O
 
I can't remember what he had but doctors at the time thought he'd not live that long.
 
Was he ill? Or some other reason that the doctors didn't think so?
 
8:00 PM
Ill with...something.
 
According to the doctors, Stephen Hawking wasn't suppose to live very long either.
 
Or maybe he had an operation.
 
Usually healthy people don't get those.
Unless they want their lips to be attached to their ears :D
 
9:01 PM
@Scratte Hello.
 
Oh.. hello :) Wonder what brought you here :D
 
I'm reasonably happy with the other queues at the moment (well, their UIs, anyway).
 
I meant to reduce some of the redundant stuff. Like "Review the following question"..
All of the other queues are only questions or only answers.
And moving the counter to the button and stuff like that.
 
Meh. Minor details ... may well be trimmed out by the dev team ...
 
It may, but I think they will not. My screen is fairly small, so it bothers me they fill it with redundant stuff. But.. if it doesn't bother you, then if I do it, I should make it optional, I guess :)
 
9:06 PM
Yeah - I like options. Just haven't figured out where to change those in your script, yet.
 
That's because you did not look at the Stack Apps post :D
There's lots and lots of options in the script.. just click the button and a modal will pop up :)
 
Maybe keep the Edit Queue script separate and offer a second, "Multi Queue" version?
@Scratte What button?
 
@AdrianMole Make "Suggested edits" review tasks wider.. check out "How it works" :D
@AdrianMole I thought of that, but then I'd have to maintain the same code for separate scripts.
 
OK - I found the cog button. But, could you have the script disabled for other queues by default. Please.
 
@AdrianMole It's disabled now because it doesn't even fire on those. If I make it enabled on other queues, the dog-wheel will show on those too, even if the script doesn't do anything on them.
But it's a good point to leave the others disabled by default.
So having the wheel appear, but just have a no-operation on them. (Other than the modal will always load when the wheel is clicked)
 
9:42 PM
No problem at all having the wee coggy thingamajig in the top bar. (The fact that I didn't even notice it before shows how unobtrusive it is!)
 
That's good to hear :) I deliberately tried to make is as unobtrusive as possible. But without forcing a key combination to load the dialog.
 

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