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2:27 AM
@Mehdi XD
 
 
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5:05 AM
Good morning
 
 
2 hours later…
7:35 AM
o/
@ballBreaker thanks BB although my mind is not sure yet if a breakup is what I want
loving someone also means being able to give 2nd chances
 
8:03 AM
Afternoon
 
Tim
8:46 AM
what's this about breaking up
 
8:57 AM
I caught her in a lie
Appearently during our dating period before we became exclusive she was dating another person. It happens, but I asked this question some time before and the answer then was "no"
 
Tim
maybe back then she didn't know yet
who she wanted
 
no she said she lied because she was afraid to lose me as potential relationship
cause she choose me by that time
 
Tim
and you're exclusive now
 
o/
Tim new album from lana in july or something :O
val json = Gson().toJson(location)
sharedPreferences.edit().putString("location", json).apply()
why would this not store all my data?
stackoverflow is full of these answers but looks like for Location it doesn't work
 
Tim
9:14 AM
maybe Location is not serializing all fields
 
guess so
it only implements Parcelable
it only saves mElapsedRealtimeNanos
 
Tim
just make your own json
 
Imma downvote em all
 
Tim
nice
 
I mean
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A: Use parcelable to store item as sharedpreferences?

CristanSince parcelable doesn't help to place your data in persistent storage (see StenSoft's answer), you can use gson to persist your Location instead: Saving a Location: val json = Gson().toJson(location) sharedPreferences.edit().putString("location", json).apply() Retrieving a Location: val jso...

 
Tim
9:25 AM
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Q: Android convert Location model to json string

FarshidABZI have a problem with converting the Location model to JSON string. When I try to convert it With Gson to a string I lose the latitude and longitude fields. ... location.lat = 40.00000 // example location.lng = 29.00000 // example val jsonString = Gson().toJson(location) val newLocation = G...

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Q: Converting Location object to Gson

Rosita Clerissa SerraoI am using implementation com.google.code.gson:gson:2.8.2 the version of Gson trying to save Location object into shared preferences. I am setting Latitude and Longitude of the location object to Latitude = 23.456 Longitude = 77.65. While trying to convert the Location object to JSON, The object...

 
what are those mate?
 
Tim
people with the same problem but no answers xD
 
ah yea
nice..
thanks
I'm trying to use custom json object as you said
 
Tim
basically wrap the data in your own class
 
data class MyLocation(location:Location) ?
 
Tim
9:29 AM
more like data class MyLocation(lat: Float, lon: Float)
and other fields you want to store
 
hmm
 
@MwBakker potential relationship meaning you weren't officially committed, right?
 
Ok I'll try that one
Thanks timmy-g
 
Tim
also I bullied a user with 127k rep into deleting a bullshit answer recently
feelsgood
 
haha lol
 
9:32 AM
hahaha
 
Tim
on this question stackoverflow.com/questions/67111882/… it has a bounty so it was obvious he was just trying to score easy points again
just another indication of how little it means to have high rep
 
I know this user! he's one of the famous folks on meta
 
> is just a very elaborate way of saying that you don't know
XD
 
Tim
I was right too, because later some user with a gold badge answere the question as well and proved him wrong xD
 
9:37 AM
justice was served
tim did you listen to that song?
the one I sent on monday or something
or were you too busy destroying high-rated users' confidence
 
@Tim lol nice timmy
rekt him
 
Tim
@grrigore I saw the message on mobile but didn't listen to it yet
 
10:04 AM
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Apr 28 '20 at 13:28, by Marian Paździoch
anyone develops Android here? or this is just paste random photo chat?
 
Tim
10:16 AM
feels like last month
3
 
yes...
 
10:39 AM
Ignore the profile but
https://twitter.com/bone00afide/status/1387183683854082048
how is this considered normal?
having AR's all around would make me very very uncofortable
 
well...
 
@Tim we are now.. or well perhaps were
@Mehdi at that moment we weren't but I asked cause it mattered to me. What hurts most now is she lied to me
 
Tim
what would you have done if she told you then that she was seeing other people
 
Honestly I don't know, I would definitly not be amused
 
Tim
so it would have affected your 'relationship' back then and maybe you would not have ended up together because of it
 
10:51 AM
that could have been the case, yes
 
oi mwb
 
Tim
I understand why she didn't want to say, but I also understand why you are upset that she didn't tell the truth. But now that you're exclusive, does it matter anymore? Look to the future not the past
 
the subject of the lie does not matter that much to me
the capability of lying matters, I had a sense of trust in her that I have with friends. I have never been able to catch my friends on a lie
and so now I feel generally naive
 
Tim
how did she react when you found out about it
 
I found out because she told me herself after asking the question again
 
10:59 AM
and what gave you the idea of asking the question in the first place?
 
I hate location! Thanks, please continue!
 
@Mehdi We were discussing vacationplans, and I made her clear that in relationship I usually change vacation plans to get her involved. She replied "are we in a relationship then?"
Lateron I found out she simply asked this cause women like to hear them being told that
 
uh not sure I agree about the latter when it's been a while since you're dating
@MwBakker does this mean it was never officially discussed?
 
@Mehdi about what?
@Mehdi I introduced her to my family and friends, I mean to me this was more than clear
 
Tim
you can't assume to be in a relationship if it hasn't been discussed
 
11:09 AM
^ it could mean that you both like each others but you're not ready to commit to it
 
@Tim being exclusive to eachother was discussed like 2 or 3 months ago
from that moment on I introduced her to friends, family and spend most of my weeknights at her place
so what was there to be discussed?
 
Tim
I would make more sense (to me) that she asked if you're in a relationship to find out how you feel about being in one, and if she should be fully committing to it. I think "women like to hear them being told that" is a little sexist and certainly not the case for all women
 
but it wasn't an assumption, my female friends told me this. Then later my gf also told me the same
 
Tim
doesn't matter
your friends cannot speak for her
 
well as I said she later told me this herself
 
Tim
11:12 AM
ah ok
 
neither can we
 
I honestly don't know how it is done in the instagram / tiktok generation, but for me the discussion must always be made: I would like us to move forward and be together, how do you feel about it?
 
Tim
well anyway being exclusive and being in relationship are not the same things, at least to me
 
anyway I completely misunderstood her sense with that question, this made me suspicious and ask about if anybody else was involved during us dating
we met in the beginning of februari and in that beginning of the month she was dating some bloke as well
 
and did you both make your move then already?
 
11:14 AM
we had 1 or 2 dates afaik
 
2 red flags for me already, 1 for you and 1 for her xD you both didn't respect the guy she was with
 
respect the guy? I didnt know about him
it was a hook up, something some people do before commiting into a new possible relationship you are dating appearantly
 
@MwBakker aaah ok, then my bad, the red flag is on her then
 
anyway I had asked her this question some time ago and by that time there was nobody else while we were dating
that lie with that info I could not handle at that moment
 
Tim
it sounds to me like you have zero tolerance for lies no matter how big or small, and that you have already made up your mind because of this. Which is fine, you don't have to accept it of course. But a little forgiveness now and then (from both sides I mean you're also gonna mess something up in the future no doubt) can lead to mutual happiness in the future. No relationship is perfect, everybody lies about some things or withholds things from the partner. But you have to decide how heavily
you want to weigh such instances
 
Tim
I think you should invite her to chat here, and we can read the stars and see if you are meant to be together
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read the stars?
 
what?
 
Tim
astrology?
 
@Tim I regretted my decission a bit the next day. I realised this is someone I love but I was very overwhelmed
 
Tim
11:25 AM
I don't know xD wanted to tone down on the seriousness
 
spit in the pot bakker
 
what does that mean?
 
Tim
which decision did you regret?
 
she was crying and asking me if I can still move on with this, I told her, knowing me, that this will come back someday or another and it could hurt us both a lot
 
@MwBakker it was a reference to Norsemen, their "wizard" asks people to spit in the pot for him to see the stars XD
 
11:27 AM
what she then said remained with me "if this comes back I am willing to take the 'beating', we can remain talking and transparant but I really want this relationship with you"
 
bro
take a break
 
I do not believe in breaks
 
nobody is perfect it's up to how you feel about that person rn
a break like relax a little
 
@MwBakker This was going to be my closing advice, if you can try move on and give her a second chance given the gray period where it happened. If you decide to do it you should really omit this event, if you're not able to do it it's gonna be a painful relationship
 
carpe diem
it could be just a misunderstanding you know shit happens
 
11:28 AM
@Mehdi exactly my thought, and at that moment with a few beers in me I told her I do not feel like I can get over this
 
also good to make decisions sober and after a few good nights of sleep, then followed with a calm discussion
 
yeah, next day being sober I realised this is not how I want to end things with someone I love
 
Tim
also good to talk to her instead of us, she is probably eating herself up waiting to hear from you
 
I didn't talk much to her, she said she is hurt and needs time to resettle things
 
Tim
ah the old turnaround
 
11:31 AM
futheron I do not do such talks per phone or whatsapp so I said I am willing to meet up, I have questions too
 
@Tim my thoughts exactly XD
 
yep, I thought "but you lied to me" ?
 
Tim
yeah but you got angry over it
so you're at fault
that's how it goes
 
lol
I was calm the entire situation
But I did put my heart out about what bothered me and why and I guess I hurt her with that
 
@Tim lol
 
11:33 AM
@Tim hahaha
 
@Tim this is true
like real true
 
Tim
also consider that if you end things over this you'd also set a precedent for yourself that any relationship in the future should be ended immediately when a lie is told
 
this is also true
 
Tim
no matter the intention. I think in this case the intention was good
 
@Tim caught on one lie means I start questioning everything
 
Tim
11:38 AM
it's a rather black and white approach to life
 
well ok it's also the weight of the lie that matters
 
Tim
earlier you said that doesn't matter
 
not that much, but a sideways hook-up did not fit with the image I had from her
 
Tim
what about her image of you, and how it changed based on your handling of the situation
 
forgiving is a big part of each relationship, entirely based on compromises, it's something you need to learn to do (to the extent that works for you and keeps your mental health intact)
 
Tim
11:44 AM
things like this can even bring people closer together
like you had an issue and you got through it together, now your relationship is stronger. That kind of stsuff
 
I agree, and the party at fault also tries to fix it and puts a bit more effort in it the other is receptive and it strengthens the bond, the special connection, what's its name again?
 
Tim
I think you mean chemistry
 
yeah that, thanks :D
 
Tim
"the party at fault also tries to fix it and puts a bit more effort" this is a big + from me too. She also could have been like "yeah I lied but whatever we just met like why are you even upset over this"
@Mehdi wait I expected you to say
Jul 24 '19 at 18:40, by Mehdi B.
no no no that's not what I meant, a link
 
I wanted to but didn't want to risk breaking the conversation XD
 
11:52 AM
@Tim I do not think that became much better. I went very judgemental on her sexual past etc
 
Tim
yeah exactly so I mean that a relationship is a 2 way street, we are talking about her behavior all the time but also consider the other direction
 
all in all, I agree with Tim, imho, given the attenuating circumstances at play, it may be positive to give the lady a second chance and start on a clean slate (meaning you not reminding her of this event), and only judge your relationship on the future now that you're both "officially" together
 
I heared different opinions on this , many like your perspective
 
I think this may also be a good exercise for a person to grow up socially
 
Tim
different people are going to have different opinions. In the end it's your decision
 
11:54 AM
but I got warned that if someone is capable of lying that its in their system
 
Tim
was it saint jesus and the pope who said this or
because everyone is capable of lying
 
I think no one admits it but show me 1 person who doesn't lie, all that changes is the scale and the frequency
 
but she kept this lie despite convincing her love for me
 
maybe she didn't want to risk exactly what you told her, that you think you cannot get over it
 
guys
 
11:57 AM
I think this is why it's important to show your partner that you're understanding and that not everything is black and white
 
ironically now it became a lie I am even less sure if I can get over this
you guys could be right
either way, I have planned to meet up with her to have things clear and talked through but I dk when cause she said she needed more time
 
Tim
we are right, we are just carefully trying to make you see this
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it's not reasonable to be together with someone else and expect them to never ever tell a lie of any gravity and if they do then it's over
 
but then where is the line?
 
Tim
you draw the line together, and the line may shift over the coarse of the relationship
 
sure but my trust in her is affected, I dk what to do about this
 
12:02 PM
it's an exercise on yourself, you need to learn to get over things to grow and to not live in constant sadness, anger and paranoia
try thinking of the positive things when you have negative thoughts
 
I really try that, and for the part I do not succeed I get treatment (within 3 months)
 
it takes time, doesn't come naturally to most people
it's part of growing up, getting hurt, developing coping mechanisms for the future to manage conflict better
 
sure but at the same time im scared this stuff will get a hold on me and come back in worse form
 
Tim
also consider that in a relationship it is you 2 against the world. Assume good faith in each other. When not sure about something, give the benefit of the doubt
treat the other as you would like to be treated
@MwBakker is it worth making a decision today based on something that may or may not happen at an arbitrary moment in the future, not knowing how the future you and her will be capable of handling it at that time?
 
@Tim well if i'm around her I want to be calm and happy not with worrying thoughts cause of this stuff
 
Tim
12:15 PM
I want to say that being with her and loving her is a good motivation to stay calm and not worry too much. But I can't imagine how you experience this
 
i'm just afraid that won't be the same anymore, but of course I dk
 
Tim
but do you want to try
 
A part of me wants to, a part doesnt
 
Tim
do you like her enough that you can say to yourself "I like this one, I am not sure about the future but I would like to give it a shot and hopefully succeed"
 
this one a constant battle in my head right now
 
Tim
12:20 PM
generally speaking, when something in life is unsure do you try because it may work out or do you give up because it may not work out
 
I am not a "throwing towel in the ring" type of guy at all, but for someone like me this cause complete chaos on my head rn
"am I doing the right thing"
For now, what I want and what is needed is to speak with her physically
 
Tim
yeah no doubt
 
life's hard
 
lies're hard
 
FusedLocationProviderClient's hard
 
Tim
12:29 PM
and also lies
I am very interested to hear what bb has to say about this
 
@MwBakker i would rephrase this to "in-person"
 
I cant edit that, but yeah in person ofc not the other thing
 
I know, i understood what you meant
 
@Tim he recieved my late night dm's in voice the night it happened. spoiler-alert: I was a complete mess
 
Tim
did he reply anything
 
12:35 PM
yeah he's been really supportive
 
with regards to forgiving or the opposite?
 
more to the opposite
 
Tim
ban him mehdi
3
 
but this is not just a drama it's important to me to decide wether I'm dealing with an obstakel or a free fall
not just for this and now, but for future purposes with whatever relationship
 
@Tim haha
 
12:39 PM
@Tim XD
 
mehdi are you in a relationship?
 
@MwBakker i think in most relationships that last, the beginning has a bumpy road until you both get flatten it and deeply know each others, then you'll get a pot hole here and there easily patchable
yes grrig, you?
 
it thought it would be real fun if you weren't xD
yes
 
lol
 
like giving relationship advice while not having a relationship haha
 
Tim
12:43 PM
@Mehdi this was the case for us
 
nice! it means you both were ready and committed to put in the work to keep it running
 
I guess you have to weight the bad and the good?
 
Tim
I was also motivated a bit by "I will never find someone else that loves me, better make this work"
 
it's certainly a motivation :D for me it was "we love and get along with each others, I refuse to throw away the time I invested in this, better make it work"
 
well
idk
 
12:52 PM
@Tim really?
 
Tim
yes
we almost broke up 2 or 3 times but especially since we have been living together we barely ever fight anymore
 
thing is im a complete open book on these things, I try to get perspective by talking to friends/family about the situaiton
sometimes I regret that afterwards, it's like spreading all info on the table ofc
 
Tim
this can have the opposite effect where she is like "I can't believe you discussed this with X or Y"
 
and also there are some things that you want to keep away from the family, as they're on your side, they may be not so forgiving towards the other person and could impact the way they treat her
 
I noticed that on my brother
he says from his point of view the situation doesn't feel right, a second chance would be against his advice
imagine then visiting him with her, makes it awkward
then again he is my brother, so I discuss these things
 
1:03 PM
but it s yo life
 
1:29 PM
things get better @mwb :) compromise from both sides and communication are key
 
\o
 
@Mehdi lmao
 
Hi. Can someone help with getting JavaFX working in Intelij?
 
@Mehdi I had no idea
look at that
 
1:42 PM
java doesn't seem to recognize --module-path
it just ignores it
 
All in all @MwBakker Tim, grrig, and Mehdi all have some really good points here. Like I said earlier, the event itself isn't what is bothering you, but the lying.. and lying is concerning but she seemed to have decent enough reason from her perspective. If she told the truth you guys probably wouldn't be together. You made it clear that you were worried about her past, and she was kind of giving you a reason to worry while you were dating..if she told you about this othe guy at the beginning
 
easier question
 
it's unlikely you would have stayed with her.. so it was out of fear of your reaction. So that's a bit of a two-way street as Tim mentioned. If you were more accepting at the beginning she might not have kept it from you for fear of losing you. But at the end of the day eveyone lies.. some lies are worse than others... I don't think her lie was necessarily malicious as much as it was self-serving
 
$ java src/sample/Main.java
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: sample.Main
 
I've gone through situations like this before and ended up okay with the girl afterwards (despite the girl not being the best for me in the end). It's really up to you what to do, but throwing this away over this.. you might regret it later. But it's also understandable if it's too much for you to move past it
 
1:48 PM
yo bb
 
that's all I'll say, the other guys did a wonderful job with advice
yo grriggy
 
Followed that
 
I remember I had quite a hard time with this too
but years ago
 
@IvanMilisavljevic hahaha that's insane, the dude with a rocket launcher on his back hahahah
 
1:50 PM
I don't know how to help ya jbis
 
any idea with the second issue? class not found
 
I also thing my settings are gone and a project is not helpful
 
$  java --module-path /Users/joshuabrown3/Downloads/javafx-sdk-11.0.2/lib  --add-modules javafx.controls,javafx.fxml Main.java
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Main
	at javafx.graphics/javafx.application.Application.launch(Application.java:304)
	at Main.main(Main.java:19)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Main
 
O/
you doing java now jbis?
what you reinventing?
 
No. Trying to help someone doing Java.
 
1:51 PM
what's her name? :>
 
Brian
 
java is brian?
@JBis hmm try posting a SO question
 
yeah I'd love to help but this seems like more of a configuration issue and I haven't used intellij in so long
sorry man
 
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon Everyone!!!!! :D
 
hellooooooooooooooo
do you always use the same number of Os ?
 
Tim
1:58 PM
@ballBreaker "I don't think her lie was necessarily malicious as much as it was self-serving" much agreed and I would even say that in this case it was not completely self-serving because as it turns out it has also served mwb
 
np, thx
Figured it out
The internet is useless
 
@grrigore not that i know of
 
There's some variation x'D
 
haha
 
2:07 PM
@ballBreaker hahaha
 
Tim
in other news, mehdi has posted more than 5000 'xD's in this chat
feels like yesterday when we celebrated your 1000th
 
xD
 
I remember when we joked about it and set a new milestone to 1500 or 2000...
time flies...
 
wow
 
for the Android folks, does the market give some love to this OS? it's been a while already and it seems it's still releasing versions sailfishos.org
 
2:11 PM
i fucking hate android
 
indeed it sucks
 
fucking location and shit
shitty apis
 
build reusable assets, when you figure out a good and clean implementation of something add it to your personal lib that you always include in every project
 
Tim
@Mehdi first time I ever hear of it. Also the big USP "The mobile OS with built-in privacy" is only true until the first big cash offer comes in. Digital privacy on that level doesn't exist anymore
 
I totally agree, but the fact they're still in the market since 2013 gives me a bit of hope
but if there is no adoption, it's pointless because it will just get abandoned or sold as you said
 
2:15 PM
> Russia trusts in Aurora OS
where is she? xD
 
@Tim very true, and good point
 
why does oracle make you sign in to download old sdk's?
oracle fucking sucks
5
 
is there an option to get current location like current location at a button click without 100 services and shit?
 
@JBis amen
 
@JBis ditto
 
2:21 PM
Do any of you listen to cinematic music? Like movie scores?
 
the trent reznor and atticus ross ones sometimes
they're really good
and I love nine inch nails
 
I like this dude named Hans Zimmer
 
who's that, never heard of him /s
 
He writes some insane stuff
 
yeah he's great, one of the best
I can't believe trent's won two oscars now for movie scores
blows my mind
 
Tim
2:24 PM
I like to listen to soundtracks when I want music but not be distracted by lyrics
 
I sometimes get distracted by how awesome the track is tho
Interstellar is one of my favorite movies, and the music made that movie
 
I feel the same way about the movie White Chicks
 
idk how people create such huge pieces like out of thin air
 
creativity
 
Tim
what do you mean
just create them
 
2:32 PM
i dont have creativity
 
is FusedLocationProviderClient meant to be used in an activity?
 
Tim
no
 
@ballBreaker wtf
One very good composer
 
/s ?
like he didn't mean it
 
@ballBreaker gotta be honest both the event and the lie are horrible to me. Its just that I cant really judge what someone does during the "grey" area but it sorta defines behaviour for me
 
2:37 PM
@JBis why do you use Oracle JDK? I believe that in your case you have everything you need in the OpenJDK
 
Tim
@grrigore developers.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gms/… you can use either in activity, or elsewhere as long as there is a context
 
Right now we are in this grey area as well while she needs time to reconsider etc and ofc that now makes me suspicious
 
Tim
context meaning application or service
 
yes
i might be stupid
getCurrentLocation(int priority, CancellationToken token)
Returns a single current location fix on the device.
guess this is what i need
 
@MwBakker /s means sarcasm
 
2:39 PM
I mean I don't wanna register a listener like requestLocationUpdates
 
@Mehdi eventually. One plus side is when I booked my hotel yesterday I came in late (after curfew) but I explained the manager im sorry and that im quite a mess. He said its ok and offered me to go drink and smoke with his buddy in his restaurant
Which was great, met 2 new friends that night
 
@Mehdi well i couldn't find an old enough open jdk version (version 8 or 9) so i went to oracle
 
@JBis I got you openjdk.java.net/install (check the first section), additionally bear in mind that Oracle is just 1 vendor of the JDK, the main one, but there are many additional implementations out there
 
jdk.java.net/archive on has up until 9
i think i needed 8
but it's alright, i figured it out
 
I got one general question to get an idea if im being rational
 
2:50 PM
go for it
I have a meeting in ten mins
 
Tim
I think he's waiting for you to go
5
 
hahaha
 
lol
mwb typing intensifies
 

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