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12:00 AM
@AnnZen so what happens, there are many users (not you, many many others) who answer those simple duplicate question trying to be helpful.
 
Thank you.
 
@AnnZen some people in the community don't appreciate that, a few try to tell those users not to do it, and there are some users that answer anyway without worrying about it, and no one bothers them about it (and when I say many, there are thousands...!!)
@AnnZen I think what Dharman was trying to say (and he wasn't being mean, nor is he the kind of person to say anything mean) was that you were having much success, and probably some (a few) of the answers you were providing were to duplicate question that are simple (and today we know what happens to some of those question...)
 
Okay, my mistake.
 
@AnnZen but it can also be said, that you were indeed having much success in getting lots of reputation in a very short time. And as you know, that alone can bother some people who take lots of time to gain reputation. (Because not everyone knows how to be happy for others that are being successful).
@AnnZen and if we were to say there is some "incoherence" with this, we could choose 2 reasons. 1º Apparently no one told you:"AnnZen some people don't it when users answer simple duplicate questions". And 2º there are high rep users that are very helpful to many people, answer all the question they want (simple or duplicate they don't case) and no one gives them a hard time about it....
 
@bad_coder You have no idea how hard I worked :(
I needed the break, tbh
 
12:10 AM
@AnnZen in fact I have a slight idea, because I was amazed with your success and wishing you well.
 
@bad_coder thanks
 
@AnnZen you are welcome. :)
@AnnZen if you want to take a break from this chat room project (or take it slowly) no one will hold it against you. And if someone is "mean" or "evil" to you on purpose, that is their fault - not yours!!!
 
@bad_coder Thanks for your advice. I'm lucky never to have met such a user, though.
 
12:27 AM
@AnnZen then it is good, because I don't like it when people are unkind in the way they speak to others.
 
@bad_coder :D
bye
 
 
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1:49 AM
@Scratte I just took a look at the works of Fermat you mentioned...
 
Wrong room? :)
 
Yes.
 
2:22 AM
@Scratte but let me ask, exactly what texts are we talking about?
 
@bad_coder Mine was on paper :)
 
@Scratte there are many kinds of paper...
@Scratte and what did the text look like? Can you find something that gives an accurate idea?
@Scratte in what language was the book written in?
 
I've continued this in the Ministry, since it's seems a little off for this room.
 
@Scratte I hope AnnZen or the other RO's don't reprehend me when they get back. (This was the "friendly conversations room" up until not long ago, and I hope it retains its original character.) Lets continue here :)
 
That makes me a little uncomfortable, as I believe this rooms transcript is going to be read very closely by moderators and community managers.
 
2:43 AM
@Scratte ohhh, I hadn't considered that. How thoughtless off me, I am sorry.
 
@bad_coder :) There are several other rooms to pick though :)
 
@Scratte may I choose a chat room that resembles a caffée?
 
@bad_coder I'm not aware of one such. If you open my profile, you can see which rooms I'm in :)
 
@Scratte not many to choose from, what can I say?
 
@bad_coder The one that's not the Ministry is a also a chit-chat room.
 
2:49 AM
@Scratte it's the only other choice, at this late hour no wonder all other venues are closed...Very well.
 
 
9 hours later…
11:37 AM
@AnnZen I agree, I was just asking for a comment from Scratte.
@AnnZen But it might be a bit easier for us to do that during the COVID pandemic.
@bad_coder Huh? A café? Then you might have a look into this chatroom on MSE chat.
 
 
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1:07 PM
@TechExpertWizard how's this for the info?
20 hours ago, by Ann Zen
This room is temporarily an edit support room. Potenial Meta post: https://github.com/RVRSO/meta-post/blob/main/README.md Potential rules: https://github.com/RVRSO/rvrso.github.io/blob/main/README.md
@Scratte can I see the list?
 
Is it not possible to use markdown links in room descriptions?
@AnnZen It's a long messy list in a file on my local system. I have never published it. It's just for me to keep track of stuff that I read.
 
@Scratte oh
@Scratte I think if we're looking at the info from outside of a room, markdown won't work.
 
1:41 PM
@AnnZen Yes, I think it does work for room descriptions at all.
 
@Scratte but the link doesn't render here:
 
Argh!.. I forgot a "not". Sorry about that.
 
I kind of figured :)
 
 
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2:51 PM
@AnnZen Looks like a good idea ;)
 
3:19 PM
room topic changed to Reopen Vote Reviewers of SO: This room is temporarily an edit support room. Potenial Meta post: github.com/RVRSO/meta-post/blob/main/README.md Potential rules: github.com/RVRSO/rvrso.github.io/blob/main/README.md [android-support-library] [discussion] [moderation] [review]
 
@Ann Could you please give me your bot's WAG code? I'll give you my rate limit helper as well as my bot's code ;)
 
@TechExpertWizard it's a meta bot, so perhaps bring it up on meta
 
 
8 hours later…
11:01 PM
@AnnZen How is this room an edit support room, if none of the users that are starting the room up is active?
I mean it's a good idea, but what if someone comes and needs edit support?
 
@Scratte I'm looking for them.
but too bad 1 rep users can't chat
 
11:29 PM
Do you think it's not right to link this room in the comments section of posts where the OP asks why their question is closed? Or would that be acceptable?
 
@AnnZen They will need to have enough reputation to chat. But if you can help them, then maybe try to see if they come.
 
@Ann Actually, what do you really mean by an "edit support room"?
@AnnZen It might not be such a bad thing. If they could, we might have an influx of a whole flock of 1-rep users asking for help with reopening their correctly closed questions.
 
@Scratte I can give them write access, no?
 
No, it will not work because you can only give people with over 20 rep explicit write access.
 
@AnnZen I think you're not allowed to. I think that is circumventing the rules. I'm not sure.
 
11:43 PM
@Scratte It's not just circumventing the rules (if it in fact is), it won't work.
 
I know it's not allowed to do it with a bot.
 
@Scratte Really? So you mean this isn't allowed?
@Scratte Of course not.
 
Yes, but those bots don't need it. They have more than 20 reputation points.
@TechExpertWizard How can you decide that? Stack Inc may think so.
 
@Scratte Really? How might the company think so?
 
But it would probably be best to not do give bots special permissions at all. That way there's no doubt that they have enough to speak in a room and always did when they spoke.
 
11:48 PM
Yes, but what if somehow a bot's reputation drops below 20?
 
@TechExpertWizard That is all in the transcript of this room. SOCVR has special permission to be a voting cabal.. of sorts.
 
@TechExpertWizard Then they cannot speak in the room. Make sure they have a buffer of reputation points.
 
Well, as you can see my bot has 59 rep while Vic's bot has 79 rep, but Ann's bot only has 21 rep.
 
Ann's bot will need to do some more edits to be on the safe side :) Or perhaps Answer some Questions.. or whatever it needs to get reputation :)
 
11:52 PM
Yes, but my bot and Vic's bot didn't need edits, we posted a Winter Bash answer.
 
That is also fine. But one Answer is also risky. What if the post is deleted?
 
@Scratte there will be an angry mob
 
Heh.. OK :)
 
17 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard
@Ann Actually, what do you really mean by an "edit support room"?
 
I only know this because some users gave their bots write access to chat rooms, and it started a bit of a kerfuffle. If I recall correctly, some of those users were high-profile too. There's a meta post about it on stackexchange, if I remember correctly. <-- I can't really remember a lot of the details, sorry. But I did read the post some time ago.
 
11:56 PM
@Scratte Oh.
 
@TechExpertWizard Where users who's questions got closed can come and get support to how their post could get reopened.
 
@Ann Oh, OK. Well, I could help correct a grammatical error or two on the info section.
room topic changed to Reopen Vote Reviewers of SO: This room is temporarily an edit support room. Potential Meta post: github.com/RVRSO/meta-post/blob/main/README.md Potential rules: github.com/RVRSO/rvrso.github.io/blob/main/README.md [android-support-library] [discussion] [moderation] [review]
There. ^^^
 

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