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12:17 AM
 
@Spevacus Probably should be careful with certain jokes in rooms where mods are thick underfoot :-p
@TylerH Hmm, I see. There are people other than rene who do that.
 
12:35 AM
@Dharman By NAA flag standards, yes. Whether it's actually relevant or useful, you tell me.
 
That looks a little strange though, even it it's an attempt of an answer to how to check if the uploaded file is a .jpg.
 
@KenWhite Gotta disagree with that being "general computing"... Configuring the SPI bus is definitely something that programmers would do. While it might also be on-topic for RaspberryPI.SE, that doesn't make it off-topic here.
@bad_coder Hmm? The suggested edit doesn't add any tags.
 
@CodyGray But it's not a programming related question, is it? Programmers would also reinstall operating systems, or install new hardware, but those questions wouldn't be on-topic here because there are other sites that are more suitable.
 
Yeah, I just realized that the answer is what I commented: run it as root. So, meh.
I solved the problem using my favored approach: close it as a dupe :-)
 
@CodyGray Heh, sorry about that.
 
12:45 AM
@Spevacus No need to apologize to me. I was just reading the transcript, eager to help users with all requests, per usual. :-)
 
: )
 
@CodyGray That's one solution. :-)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis closed with a more specific close reason
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Thanks for your review!
 
@CodyGray I wanted to add the tag, but I couldn't because I misclicked and approved. I'm not sure if the question should be closed, so I'd add the tag and let the SME's decide.
 
1:00 AM
@bad_coder OK. I'm still very confused about what you were requesting with your... request in here. I do not think that adding a tag would ever make a question eligible for re-opening, and certainly that one wouldn't. The question seems far too broad to me, edits or not.
 
@CodyGray yeah, but I was unsure so adding the right tag would let the "tag-watchers" decide in the morning. (Some questions seem completely off-topic but make sense in a specific context.)
 
1:22 AM
Oooops ... I just duplicated Dharman's request =/
 
2:13 AM
the fake desertnaut is back, this time with a profile photo of mine... :(
 
@desertnaut if the profile isn't posting on SOCVR everyone knows it's not you :D
 
Do you know where they found it? (Nice photo btw :-)
 
@Scratte that's what I was going to say, looking good @desertnaut :)
 
yes, but add 40 (!) attempts to login to platforms where I use the said username (SO, Twitter, Kaggle, Github), and it stops being funny...
thanks folks...
 
@desertnaut that's an unreasonable amount of work indeed, I'm sorry this is happening to you :(
 
2:19 AM
Let me get this right. You just commented on their post and voted to close it..
 
yes
 
How did you find out how many times they tried to access your accounts?
 
I am receiving emails!
from the respective platforms
 
Oh dear.. that is an insane amount of energy to put into being miffed about a closed post.
Imagine if they had put that into making a better post.. ?!?
 
"If you requested a password reset for @desertnaut, use the confirmation code below to complete the process. If you didn't make this request, ignore this email. " (Twitter)
"Hi desertnaut,
Here is your 6-character code to verify your account:" (Kaggle)
 
2:23 AM
Ah, so they also have your email?
 
@desertnaut did you have 2FA for those, right?
 
What's a 2FA?
 
I am not having problems with the accounts
 
@Scratte Those types of emails are sent when a site has someone attempt to reset a password. It only requires the username.
 
but it is both infuriating and creepy...
 
2:25 AM
I prefer not leaving anything to chance ;)
 
@Makyen One of them was to verify the account, which I normally only get when signing up.
 
How do I formally report abuse (apart from flagging)? Mail support@ ??
 
@desertnaut Absolutely. I'm not sure we can help you though :(
 
@desertnaut Ahhh... they are using an old profile pic of yours??
 
You would need to consult each service help pages.
 
2:26 AM
the are using my linkedin one
 
Also, be careful of getting yourself blocked doing that.
 
@Braiam doing what?
 
@desertnaut Contacting those services.
 
why? I have done it before, and it was a very smooth experience, SO-side
 
Services tend to respond to those in a way that you become victim of an attack.
 
2:31 AM
@desertnaut How did you notice that they were back here?
 
I just saw the 2nd wave of emails with the password change attempts
and it was the 1st thing to check
 
@desertnaut certainly infuriating, but don't worry about the creepy there's never a short amount of people wanting to cause you bother either online or in real life. Don't pay them any attention besides loosing the energy of cleaning up.
 
So the rejected edit was before the emails started coming in?
 
@desertnaut think about it, Friday night and instead of having fun and relaxing that person is loosing their time trying to bother you.
 
@Scratte sorry, not sure what you mean; which rejected edit?
 
2:35 AM
@desertnaut I assumed you noticed, since you rejected this suggested edit
 
yes, had not noticed the emails then, but proves that all these attempts were happening simultaneously
they even left 2 abusive NAAs in my questions
 
Not exactly the circumstances in which I wanted to say this:
 
@bad_coder You'll probably be the last too. No one is going anywhere in Help&Improvement.
@desertnaut So.. when did the last one come?
 
@bad_coder Congratulations!
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@Scratte a bunch of 9 attemtps in Twitter came 1 hour ago (it was the 2nd wave)
 
2:46 AM
I don't know what to do. I cannot ask questions. How can I lift my ban or I have to make another account?
 
@desertnaut I expect there will be another one tomorrow.
 
first things first - my flag here is still pending...
 
What did you flag? The other account?
 
@HasanKhurshid Please read this meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255583 thoroughly. It should address whatever questions you have.
 
@Scratte as this is the 2nd time they change their name to impersonate me, I asked here (you were not around), and a mod told me that this behavior is flaggable.
I did, they reverted the username, but here we are again...
 
2:57 AM
@desertnaut I read the transcript. I remember that. But I'm not contesting that it's flaggable. This is not acceptable at all.
What I'm trying to figure out is what will give you the least grief and the best outcome. I'm thinking that resetting their account will just spark more anger. Nuking their account will make it very difficult to see if they log in again (with a new account)
 
@desertnaut regarding those attempts the system should start blocking them at some point (but remember that a user who lost his password will try lots of combinations, so most systems will allow for numerous attempts.) So your best choice is turning off notifications from email, or having a prepared notification filter for these situations (if such is possible with your email account).
Regarding SO I'm surprised that account wasn't mod nuked the first time that person tried to impersonate you. The "contact us" form with the keyword harassment in the topic would be the right choice.
 
@bad_coder They'd just create a new account. I'm not seeing someone accepting the situation there. I see someone going with anything they can think of.
 
3:29 AM
temporal suspension (7 days)...
 
Yes, I noticed. I just don't see how that's going to cool them down.
 
@desertnaut Yep, what I was warning you about...
 
@Braiam not me, the impersonator
 
Ah
 
I have sent a mail to Catija, too
 
3:33 AM
That's a good choice :)
 
@desertnaut the short suspension might be a good option, perhaps it helps "get the message across". If it were a 30 day suspension you might get even more login attempts on your social media.
 
Let's see how it goes
good night all, thanks for the chat...
 
Good luck :)
 
@Scratte thanks
 
3:57 AM
Is this just NAA or something worse?
 
@Scratte I'm betting SPAM, but you can't be entirely sure without trying to send the email and make the phone call.
\o good night everyone.
 
@bad_coder Heh.. super ;) Not doing that though
 
4:30 AM
I called her. She said it's spam.
 
 
2 hours later…
RO, please remove above request. It can be roomba. Wrongly placed by me.
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, upon request
 
7:50 AM
How can this answer be improved?
 
@Yatin a quote from the docs on how to use it and/or a code sample would be alright.
 
Thank you :)
 
@Yatin think about it like this - if a user couldn't visit the link, what information would make that answer complete.
 
You don't mind if I paste both of these lines verbatim into a comment right?
 
No problem.
I'll demand royalties from all profits you make from that comment, though.
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8:16 AM
 
9:16 AM
How is jQuery related here? I am very curious, genuinely. — Praveen Kumar Purushothaman 18 secs ago
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Lots of people don't know the difference between a language and a framework. Most of the code they end up writing is just targeting the framework, so they start thinking that the framework is equivalent to the language. Obviously, jQuery isn't going to provide fundamental arithmetic operations (at least, I hope not!), but that's a distinction lost on far too many programmers who just know that they are "using jQuery".
 
9:33 AM
Vanilla jQuery is the best.
 
Vanilla jQuery with ECMAScript 5, sprinkled with implicit locals and served in concatenation groups.
Bon appetite.
 
I like strawberry better.
 
@CodyGray Tough luck. Someone has to eat it for a living.
 
Are edits that are R/A supposed to be rolled back, or flagged?
 
@cigien Rolled back. You might also raise a custom moderator flag if you think it's worth a moderator seeing and acting upon.
 
9:42 AM
And I leave standard "don't vandalize" comment?
 
If it's the OP? Yeah, probably. Or...not, if you're concerned at all about becoming a target of their rage. Just leave it for a moderator.
 
That can backfire. But so can rolling back, so...
 
Proposal to rename AsmJs to SugarIceJs. Like VanillaJs, but without any artificial flavoring.
 
@CodyGray No, it's fine. OP is just upset their question got closed. I think their edit basically says "I'm an idiot, why can't I solve this problem?" :p Definitely harmless.
Ah, you found it :)
 
No, it means they think the person (?) who voted to close it is an idiot.
That whole business wasn't worth saving.
A one-sentence description, combined with "can you be an example?" is... hardly even worth bothering to roll back.
 
9:48 AM
Not worth saving, sure. So I shouldn't have rolled back?
I thought we rolled back vandalism regardless of the post quality.
 
I'm not changing the general advice
We do
But, if we have a diamond after our name, we also delete it.
And then we can slap our faces with our palm over it, an activity which is not limited to those of us with diamonds after our names.
Soon, you will know the ritual intuitively.
 
Ah, ok then. When you give advice you should put a small diamond after it, to indicate when it might be specific to mods.
I'm confused enough as it is :p
 
Right.
Well, see, the thing is, it's really hard to give general advice. At least it is for me.
And I always have to think about the nitpickers who are going to be like, "oh, but if I flag it, it might get declined".
Which, to me, is somewhat like saying, "if I drive a car, I might get into a wreck".
 
To clarify, I was joking. Keep giving advice the way you do, to me at least.
It never hurts to be reminded that there are subtleties, and corner cases to everything.
 
Honestly, it's more of, sometimes I feel like we spend way too much time discussing what to do with crap, instead of just getting rid of it as quickly and painlessly as possible.
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9:59 AM
Can't say I agree entirely. If we don't broadly agree on what is crap, we might get rid of useful stuff. And to get agreement, we need discussion.
 
"Why did you dump that crap back onto the floor?!"
"Oh, you put that crap into a *white* garbage bag. You see, that's not recommended because the white bags are a bit less sturdy than the black bags, and they might rip out. Plus, the white is more see-through, so someone might get an unpleasant image while the bag is being carried to the garbage can. Therefore, we generally recommend that you use the black garbage bags for transporting crap to the garbage can."
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Yeah. On the edge cases. My point here was basically that this is the furthest thing from an edge case.
 
Ah yes, fair enough. I wasn't trying to save it.
Why did you delete my comment though? That threw me off a bit.
Seemed like good information for the OP to have anyway.
 
When I delete a post and suspend a user, I often prefer to remove comments that might make non-moderators the target of some rage.
If you knew the kinds of responses we got to moderator messages, you'd understand. :-)
There's plenty of good information out there.
 
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I haven't been burned yet, so I don't worry about it :p Does make sense.
You suspended the user for that edit? Seems a bit harsh. Don't respond if we shouldn't be talking about it here.
 
Thank-you so much for deleting my post, Mr Moderator. I really cannot express the lessons I have learned from your wise action.
 
10:05 AM
Cody deleted one of your posts too, huh?
 
@cigien I have been accused of being harsh. And also of being too lenient. I take this as evidence that I'm doing it correctly. :-)
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/65243930/… - does that belong to Superuser? Do you consider it is a "programming" question?
 
@MrUpsidown Doesn't sound like programming to me. Maybe more something for WebApps.SE?
 
ok thanks for handling it
 
'Tis what I do!
@MrUpsidown I wonder why someone voted to close that as a recommendation question...?
 
10:18 AM
Was it me? I remember I hit the wrong option on a question recently...
 
I'm intentionally not mentioning names, just musing. Take from it what you will.
Misclicks do happen, of course; I get that.
 
@CodyGray Thing is, I didn't have the hyphen at first; it was an after-thought. I blame the lack of coffee at that point (now remedied).
 
well if it was me then yes this was a misclick
 
I think I misclicked once. Had to alter the entire trajectory of the universe to cover up that mistake.
@AdrianMole Which Latin American country did you start the guerilla war in?
 
All of them.
... except Cuba. That was my brother, Che Mole.
 
10:21 AM
Ah, that makes sense. Just to be safe.
Seems an awful lot of work for bitter bean juice. Can't you just brew a nice cup of hibiscus tea instead?
@cigien Someone flagged your "spoken like a true Python programmer" comment as "unfriendly or unkind" :-)
 
v_v
 
I thought you liked flags?
 
I like flags. But I don't like all flags.
 
Oh, I see. You like being judgmental. Me too. :-)
 
Heh, I'm not even biased in favor of Python.
Better be careful not to say "spoken like a true Rustacean".
 
10:36 AM
Can I post comments with links to this? (disclaimer: found with a 2 second Google search; have not even read it)
 
@CodyGray Really? That's odd. You mean Pete's comment was flagged? It was neither unfriendly or unkind. I see none of the comments are deleted, so I take it you declined the flag.
 
@cigien Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
 
It'd be interesting to know whether the flagger was into C++ or into Python. ;-)
 
You know the correct response is 5 * yes right? Or is that too pythonic for your taste?
 
Probably a JavaScript programmer
 
10:39 AM
@CodyGray Sure. It ain't unfriendly, but the clickbait is strong in that one.
In all seriousness, sometimes I wonder if we should stop linking to the xkcd censorship comic strip.
 
@AdrianMole C#, with some JavaScript and C++, evidently. No Python. People are offended by weird stuff.
@E_net42 It's not exactly friendly, at least in the way it's used.
 
Indeed. A lot of it is 'lost in translation' related, I think. Dry humour doesn't always cross language barriers.
 
Good thing I only speak English!
Wait.. that might not be helpful.
 
Yavol!
 
Wait, you speak butchered German, too?!
 
10:43 AM
@AdrianMole Yeah, I make it a point to avoid dry humor on main. I always put a ;) or some emoticon if I'm being funny or something.
 
@AdrianMole I think a bigger part of it actually is people feeling offended for someone else. The whole, "I don't actually think this is offensive, but someone might, so I've flagged it."
@cigien Evidently, a <g> doesn't work, so I guess we can scratch that one off the list.
 
You just have to 'know' who you're dealing with. There are a number of regulars on C/C++ who I know will understand.
 
Literally no regulars on C/C++ will understand "C/C++".
 
@CodyGray Well, flagging that comment is just strange, that's for sure. I meant generally.
 
Is it undefined/unsequenced behaviour? I though the post-increment operator was clearly of higher precedence than division.
 
10:46 AM
C/C++ is undefined behavior
 
@AdrianMole It is indeed unsequenced.
 
{ninja biscuits}
 
@AdrianMole It's not the precedence that matters, it's the order of evaluation. There's no sequence point with / so either c or c++ could be evaluated first.
So UB indeed.
 
Nitpicker's corner: MSVC does not warn. But it does generate the same object code as GCC and Clang, taking advantage of the unsequenced behavior unsuspecting developer.
 
The behavior is undefined unspecified unsuspected.
 
10:53 AM
@CodyGray By default, right? There must be a flag that'll make it warn.
 
@cigien Not with /Wall. I don't think there's anything else. It doesn't really have any of that fancy sanitizer stuff built in like the other big two compilers. Although it does come bundled with some static analyzers, which almost nobody uses.
 
Even the static analyser fails to warn.
 
Hmm, yeah, looks like MSVC doesn't warn about sequence points UB. That's unfortunate.
 
ICC doesn't warn, either. It's more like MSVC in that regard, although its code-gen is typically higher quality.
It is somewhat surprising, because it's clearly detecting it as UB and optimizing accordingly. I think the warnings were just omitted in the early days when the parser was being improved (after stealing it from...Lattice, was it?), and nobody has gone back and added them in the decades since.
More good reason to expose your code to as many different compilers as possible.
 
That's one of the main reasons I like to run my code through clang-cl before building it up (with MSVC) for a release.
 
11:01 AM
I wish I had the time to get that working. A couple of years ago, I tried to set up clang-cl, but never had any luck. Haven't gone back to it since.
It's a fantastic idea, and I'm really glad they're supporting that.
 
It's a trivial task now, if you have VS2019. It's all in-built and installable via the VS Installer; then you can just select LLVM as the toolset.
 
With Linux support built into Windows 10, in spite of Windows 10's other misfeatures, there's a lot of exciting stuff coming out of Microsoft these days.
I think it was that same way with VS 2017 or whichever version I tried it with. But when I selected LLVM as the toolset, I just got a sea of errors, worse than if you forget a semicolon in a core header.
 
Is stackoverflow.com/questions/65250047 spam? There's disclosure, but not much of a question.
 
@cigien Probably not spam, just a confused asker. But I certainly wouldn't decline a spam flag on that. Maybe dispute.
 
Yeah, tricky one. It's not about the flag anyway, I just wanted to give SD feedback.
 
11:18 AM
Hmm: const double* p versus double* const p. Good argument fodder, but it's a poor question.
 
@AdrianMole There's dupes for that. Share a link if you want.
 
I'm not even sure that's what the issue is. Did you see it already: question
 
@AdrianMole No, I haven't been looking at main for a bit. There's nothing to do there. The OP doesn't know what they want. Needs Details is about the only option.
 
^ +1
 
11:51 AM
@Yatin Just checking. Is it because of the Non-English?
 
Yep
Ah
@cigien My bad
 
No. Ask for the request to be binned.
 
Ohk
 
@Yatin No worries :) I'll edit out the french.
 
In that question, or the French in general? xD
 
11:53 AM
@cigien Thank you
@AdrianMole lol :)
 
@Yatin np. Sorry for the previous comment. I didn't mean to bark an order at you. I'm in the middle of grading assignments, and I'm cycling through tabs fast.
@AdrianMole Just the question for now ;)
 
@cigien No problem.... I didn't see it as barking an order... It was my fault.. I rushed to flag and send a request. You corrected me :)
 
@Yatin Ok :) Also, if that's your CV, can you retract? Unless you want it closed for some other reason.
 
I am less that 2k :)
Only normal flags for me
 
@AdrianMole I noticed the OP had translated everything but the "thank you". That was only in French :D
@Yatin Oh, oops. No worries then. Thanks for the help.
 
11:58 AM
The British have been wondering what to 'do' with the French for centuries; how come we never before thought of editing them out?
 
12:20 PM
@CodyGray "sometimes", huh?
 
@CodyGray Ah, makes sense...
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Not constructive. Flag as "no longer required". Not really rude IMO
It got nuked after my flag btw
 
12:38 PM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Please avoid adding the user name when not necessary. e.g. in this case, you can solicit feedback on whether the comment is rude, by just sharing the text of the comment.
It's not a big deal, but I think it could be considered user shaming, and we'd like to avoid doing that here.
 
@cigien Pasting the text of the comment here might not be a great idea always. Especially if they have offensive words in them.. So a link to the comment will suffice ...
 
12:55 PM
Why people ask to explain the downvotes and when you do they get really mad? What's the point then?
 
Maybe they like to get mad?
 
That's unhealthy.
I'd expect that a user who has more reputation than me would at least be able to take some constructive criticism
 
Please don't attempt to correlate reputation with sanity.
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Yeah, high rep users can be among the most recalcitrant.
 
@cigien Oh, I just posted the link there... That has become like that.
 
1:00 PM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman No worries. Just better to avoid even the appearance of user shaming, that's all. In the future, just paste the text of the comment, and ask for feedback. Unless of course the text itself is abusive enough that it would not be acceptable here. In which case, an R/A flag would be appropriate, and you wouldn't need to ask here in the first place.
 
@cigien Sure thing!
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Thank you :)
 
I think some users are just addicted to reputation points.
 
@Dharman What happened?
 
See my last CV-pls
 
1:03 PM
Yea, this is not healthy...
Let's delete and move on.
 
Yeah, I mean it probably deserves deletion, but we usually do not delete because of some discussion in comments. I flagged the comments already
 
Agreed, I don't think that's a valid del-pls reason.
 
@AdrianMole Why? The more rep I get the less sane I feel.
 
I think Adrian meant positive correlation. Negative, sure ;)
 
OK - I'll 'allow' reverse correlation.
 
1:12 PM
^^ looks like trolling to me
 
Same
That's a good one to delete immediately
 
I don't think anyone will miss it
 
@Yatin well, but then: look at the OP's username
 
@Vickel Hm.. valid point
Roll back please
 
1:20 PM
That was an odd edit.
 
Yep.. not sure why they did that
 
@AdrianMole I don't think so. Literally looks like they just had caps-lock on.
 
Not that one - the rollback request from Yatin.
 
Cigien is referring to your del-pls request...
 
^^
 
1:22 PM
@cigien They might come from a background where the concept of capital letters is not known to them. But the rest of the question didn't make much sense. It was really low quality. Either they don't know anything about programming or they were actually trolling. I give them a benefit of the doubt but the question is better off deleted. They can improve it now and undelete it later.
 
@cigien That is kinda what I thought...
 
@Dharman Definitely not disputing the deletion. I just don't think it's trolling. The OP certainly appears to not be comfortable with programming.
 
I don't think so. I think it needs editing...
 
Can you suggest an edit, please?
 
1:33 PM
@Dharman No, it's an answer. They're linking to a PR for the repo that had a bug they were facing.
@Dharman I can give it a shot.
 
@cigien Please note Scratte's comment under the question
 
Try now
 
@Yatin Yup. Can you review please?
 
@cigien Ok, but I still don't know what do I need to do to fix the same problem. Do I need to upgrade or integrate the patch in some way?
 
@Dharman Oh, no idea. The answer might be incomplete, but it's definitely an answer. I just made sure all the attribution was clear.
 
1:40 PM
@Dharman Maybe a person working on that problem will know what it means... I have never worked with Java so I don't know either
But the answer is saved :)
 
to me it reads as "update to newest version at it will work"
 
And the newest version is?
 
@Dharman presumably so
and if not, wait and retry
 
I feel so educated...
I'll let it go, but in my opinion linking to a patch should at least give some indication of what I need to do to fix the problem. If it was a bug then the solution would be to upgrade to a certain version. That link does not help me in any way. I might be wrong so I will leave it alone.
 
Maybe leave a comment asking them to improve it...
 
1:52 PM
Do you think this should be closed, or opened? stackoverflow.com/q/65252471/13552470
 
@AnnZen closed, unclear
 
@Yatin So.. the person that fixed the issue gets their post deleted. And some other users that just happened to notice gets all the reputation on Stack for the fix. That seems not very motivating for the user that actually fixed the issue to post any again on this site.
 
@JohnDvorak I find it clear. They want to know why the linebreaks don't get rendered out if the string is in a list.
 
@AnnZen Really? I thought it produced an undisclosed syntax error?
We don't accept images of code, and this one isn't even big enough to be readable.
 
They provided image and text.
 
1:59 PM
@Scratte Yeah, it's not clear why that answer was deleted. I guess it looked link-only. Although the link is a bug fix. I would vote to undelete, but I can't.
 
They provided the faulting code, but not its fault
 
@JohnDvorak ?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels yatin just posted that, if you want to delete yours.
 
@Scratte Yep valid point. I think I will mod flag and ask a mod to convert it to a community wiki.
 
@cigien: ah, didn't see
thanks
 
2:01 PM
np
 
Oops, got to go.
 
@AnnZen ... where did the output you edited in come from?
Now it's most likely a duplicate and poorly researched.... was before your change got rolled back. Now it's no MVCE again.
 
@Scratte what do you think about this:
> This problem was solved by Dmitry (see Scrattes' comment under the question). This answer simply mentions that. The reputation gain from this answer should ideally go to Dmitry. Please convert this answer to a community wiki.
 
@AnnZen if you ran it, please don't - your environment might be different from OP's. If you transcribed it, please don't - you could introduce a transcription error.
 
@AnnZen I've rolled back your edit. Please don't add output to questions like that. Based on the OP's description of "doesn't work" there could be different outputs that the OP is seeing. Even if you're confident that you know what output the OP is actually seeing, you should leave a comment asking the OP to add the output in themselves.
 
2:11 PM
What do you think about this answer? Is it NAA or maybe R/A (I don't feel strongly in this direction)? How can it be improved (if it can be that is)?
 
Question: Sometimes/often I have the feeling that a question title and the question itself don't match or can be improved. Is it accepted that someone else changes the title such that the question can have better traction? (and potentially edit the content to remove clutter).
 
@kvantour I frequently remote clutter and waffle from titles, yes. Sometimes reorder the words so it scans better. Sometimes I'll remove the home-made tag (we have a tag system for that).
 
@Yatin I'd prefer: The Answer posted by Dimitri should be undeleted, since that's the Answer that was mentioned in a comment and then used to post an Answer indentical to the deleted Answer :)
 
@Scratte smart :)
 
Community wiki should be used voluntarily and/or if one feels wrong to get credit when mentioning an answer by someone in a comment. This way around feels.. just wrong.
 
2:15 PM
@kvantour Yes, as long as you know exactly what they are asking about and you make sure to keep all the relevant information then you can change the question. Often you must come up with a better title otherwise you can't save
 
@Scratte Clarify that the identical answer had attribution. As currently worded, it could read like you're claiming the answer was plagiarized.
 
@cigien It sort of was, no? I mean they likely got the Answer from my comment. I see.. :) No, they didn't. They likely posted only because the other Answer was removed. Un-deleting that other Answer would set the world right again :)
 
@AmitJoshi thought so.. Thanks.. Btw which flag did you go with?
 
@kvantour yes, if an improved title helps directing users that can answer the question, then by all means, edit. That helps future visitors as well.
 
@Scratte Yes, but they attributed Dmitry. Ok then :)
 
2:18 PM
^+1
 
So, my proposal for a custom flag needs to be improved :)
 
So, @Scratte, first undelete the deleted answer. Add the answer from OP into it. Delete OP's answer. Will this do?
 
@rene @halfer @Dharman Thanks for the input!
 
@AmitJoshi The easy fix is to change the question to "how to"
 
@Yatin I'm not really sure what to do at this point. None of the users in this did anything wrong. I'd prefer to get the old Answer back, but I also feel it strange to remove the Answer made by the Question author. Which was made in good faith. (I'm happy I made that comment btw. I had a feeling about them being happy to see a fix :-)
 
2:23 PM
OP can be explained by the mod in a comment... The rep gained is "rightfully" Dmitry's.
 
@Yatin They didn't actually gain anything yet. It's a self-Answer.
 
Yet :p
 
Maybe I can ask them if they'd like the original Answer to be undeleted, so they can accept that.. mentioning that it may not be possible for me to make happen.
 
I wonder whether they would reply
Also, I can't help but feel like we are overthinking this
 
I like overthinking things :)
It settles my opinions about it in my head and the next time it comes around, I've already thought about it and can underthink it :)
 
2:31 PM
@Scratte Hmm, I should wait till the 2 minutes expire before responding to you. You made 3 edits, and now I don't know which one I was responding to :p
Nice hat by the way :D Getting into the holiday spirit I see.
 
@cigien lol
 
I'm sorry. I guess I'm using the edit option on my chat messages to the fullest :)
 
@cigien Speaking of hats, I am considering a hat transplant.
 
@Scratte That's fine. Good discipline for me really. I don't need to be in such a rush to respond.
@Yatin Ooh sounds risky. Will it require surgery?
 
MS Paint
 
2:35 PM
That's worse than surgery ;)
 
@cigien I took it from the Winter Bash 2018 Hat list :) I guess my punctuation got squished when I put it on, though it seems the hat is a little too big for me, so only the dots seems to be not covered ;)
@Yatin Which hat are you transplanting to?
 
Huh, that's a cute link. I think I might go with Explorer.
 
{Waffles} ;-)
 
@cigien You're going to cover the end of your pipe with an explorer hat? :) That's not very.. christmas'y :)
 
Santa may see smoke coming from the pipe and mistake it for a chimney. That would be ... awkward.
 
2:41 PM
I'm not very chrismtasy I'm afraid. And I'm not actually going to change my gravatar, that was a joke :)
@AdrianMole Make for a fun story though ;)
 
@cigien Oh. I really like Christmas. The idea of celebrating the middle of winter that the light of summer is going to come :) I'm also quite fond of the midsummer celebrations.
Perhaps I should call it midwinter celebrations. But that would just confused everyone, I suppose :)
 
@Scratte I certainly understand the appeal. I do like seeing people around me get excited :) I'm just mostly indifferent to it that's all.
 
@Scratte "The idea of celebrating the middle of winter that the light of summer is going to come :)" you and most of humanity throughout the ages. The various winter celebrations from different times, regions, cultures, religions are surprisingly similar in general idea behind them. Which also shaped these celebrations quite similarly. And nowadays we've folded a lot of those into the modern Christmas.
 
So.. what do you think? Now I just need to wait for the new hats to arrive.
 
@Yatin can you please stop being bald?
 
2:52 PM
@Yatin Awesome :) Though you may have to make more room for a hat on the top.
 
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