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2:00 PM
@FlorianMargaine I didn't know that.
 
@rlemon Mockachinno :D this morning I've needed more sugar then normaly -.-
 
np
@dievardump tried already :p
@Alnitak what is it?
 
It's a Mandelbrot set explorer
It uses WebGL shaders to calculate the Mandelbrot set
 
mandelbrot = some far far away galaxy?
 
where have you been for the last 25 years?!
 
2:01 PM
really nice zoom
I'm not really into astronomy :(
 
it's nothing to do with astronomy. It's a fractal
 
and maybe it's not the same name in french
 
The Mandelbrot set is a mathematical set of points whose boundary is a distinctive and easily recognizable two-dimensional fractal shape. The set is closely related to Julia sets (which include similarly complex shapes), and is named after the mathematician BenoƮt Mandelbrot, who studied and popularized it. More precisely, the Mandelbrot set is the set of values of c in the complex plane for which the orbit of 0 under iteration of the complex quadratic polynomial zn+1 = zn2 + c remains bounded. That is, a complex number c is part of the Mandelbrot set if, when starting with z0 = 0 an...
 
Mandelbrot is a name
 
2:02 PM
Mandelbrot is French ;-)
 
lol
 
Anyone here know Chinese? Not sure if mandarin or cantonese
 
You've earned the rare quadruple fail
 
I need a translation
 
> The Mandelbrot set has its place in complex dynamics, a field first investigated by the French mathematicians Pierre Fatou and Gaston Julia at the beginning of the 20th century.
 
2:03 PM
actually his name might be Polish, but Mandelbrot was considered to be a "French American" according to Wikipedia
 
I did do a nice rotating globe using WebGL too, but I think that's on my work computer
 
> Only ever awarded by Zirak, the quadruple fail is a rare and unfortunate circumstance in which a sequence of failures is so complete and in such a short time period that there is no other way to react than to LOL.
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> Other so-called fail barons rarely reach the quadruple fail, choosing instead to berate the failer on the initial failure.
 
@Abhishek Joining? What'd I miss?
@FlorianMargaine He said probably not
Joomla's easier for the team we've got (still small)
 
Joomla ?
That word give me cancer.
 
2:08 PM
oh, btw, that WebGL demo does work in Firefox, but you have to use up/down instead of the scroll wheel to zoom
 
@SomeKittens he's right, drupal has a steep learning curve
you should do a side project to try it out though
like building an event management system with it
with google maps and a nice calendar
 
@FlorianMargaine So I've heard. And we could make a custom backend, but that'd take dev hours to build and maintain
Sadly, I have no time
 
would take me less than half a day to build it for instance
 
Starting next week, I'll be back at college with full credit load (18) plus 10+ hrs a week working
but when I do get free time (break) I'll look into it
you're slowly convincing me
One thing: What are the Drupal docs like?
 
2:11 PM
messy, you can find what you want but it's kinda hard to
also, it's more developer oriented
 
bah
Joomla wiki's irritatingly bad
 
you mainly look for them on google
 
(as you probably know)
 
// Vaguely interesting quirk
var str = 'sup',
    assign,
    someFunc = function(e) { return false; };

if (str === 'sup' && assign = someFunc) // invalid left-hand side in assignment
{
    console.log('whatup');
}
 
Best. logo. evar. http://logstash.net/
 
2:13 PM
@RyanKinal not surprising at all, = has lower operator precedence than &&
 
Yeah, I realize. But I just ran into this in real life, and thought I would bring it up.
 
Hi... anyone how to convert % in javascript that can send in plain text mail body?
know**
 
@Shail I have no idea how to parse that sentence
 
:(
 
@Shail me neither
 
2:15 PM
i really stuck there
 
You want the ASCII for %?
 
I think he means the html encoded version, if there is such a thing for a percentage symbol
 
You mean \x25 ?
 
Or is it the URL encoded one?
 
let me try with this : \x25
 
2:17 PM
@johannacherry http://logobro.com/ there is competition.
 
URL encoded would be %25
 
%25 is not working for me
 
Okay, why was I unaware of the punctuation mark known as interrobang?
 
@RyanKinal because you are so out of the loop
 
I mean... INTERROBANG
That is BADASS
 
2:20 PM
see the last two characters in the unicode list
 
Looks like a box, followed by a box
<--- unicode fail
 
@RyanKinal I like pile of poo more, here's hoping microsoft gets it into the windows fonts quickly so I can use it all over the place fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4a9/index.htm
 
rlemon I'm against this kind of websites.
 
What's 6 megabytes in kilograms?
4
 
lol
 
Depends. Is it data-over-the-wire? Or is it on a disk? What's the temperature?
 
really, a few few few
 
Yes, to all questions
 
I disagree with @Zirak.
 
3
Q: How much does a gigabyte weigh on a hard disk?

CallumWhat is the weight of a gigabyte of memory? Lets say this is on a hard disk. What is the weight associated with the atoms that are actually storing the data on the disk? How has this value changed as densities of disks have increased?

 
2:26 PM
@FlorianMargaine Its not necessary
 
@RyanKinal <3
 
@RyanKinal o/
 
Atoms? Isn't it all just electron states?
 
Time to unbox my miraculous css experiments :$
webkit .. i love u (XD)
 
Sometimes "not constructive" should be overruled by "awesome."
 
2:28 PM
@Abhishek Beware... you might piss off Mozilla enough that they'll implement -webkit prefixes.
2
 
@RyanKinal lmao
 
I was going to weigh and measure my HDD
 
opera did
 
That still bugs the hell out of me
 
@Abhishek Bookmarked. Now I have to run to work :(
 
2:29 PM
k
@RyanKinal you joining the comp ? jw
 
Agh... I dunno. I'm not much good with games. But maybe I'll give it a shot.
 
:D
yay!
this is gonna be fun for sure :D
 
@Esailija Thanks!
 
@Abhishek I can't, I'm way too busy with work and packing for college/actual college.
Also, I'm pretty horrid at JS
 
What do you win?
 
2:31 PM
The respect and adoration of your peers
Or, maybe, just a little less trolling
 
and a lot of joy ! to make stuff !
 
If you're getting into a competition like that for the winnings, you shouldn't be in it in the first place.
 
@RyanKinal here is some special stuff i am thinking of using [ canvas people can kill me for this ]
-webkit-mask-image based lightning effects :$
hehe
 
Nice
 
gotta go lets test some ttest stuff now
 
ok, my HDD weights ~0.58967kg, and has 80 gb. So, 1gb = 0.58967kg/80gb = 7.370875 * 10^-3kg. => 1mb = 0.007370875kg / 1024mb = 7.198120117 * 10^-6 kg. Multiply by 6: 6mb = 4.31887207 * 10^-5kg. But only on my HDD. And veeery roughly.
 
> And veeery roughly.
Isn't that the way you like it?
 
I know I look like her, but I'm not your mommy.
 
I could have sworn there was a question somewhere on SE about how much data weighs going over the wire.
 
2:41 PM
@Abhishek When's it supposed to end?
I may give it a shot if there's enough time for me to start next week
 
@Amaan 9 days
or we might just kill the limit
 
Probably not, then
 
I can do it in four years
 
@SomeKittens boy thats too long for a game
u beat CS GO in the waiting there !
 
That's when I'll finally have enough free time to learn something that isn't job-related
or school-related
 
2:48 PM
New Question: How much does 6MB weigh in Kilograms .... on the moon
 
I need to make a collision detection library
@Abhishek would I be able to use it? ;>
 
weightOnEarth * (gravityOnMoon / gravityOnEarth)
 
@Florent ^^ do you have a translator?! — Neal 19 secs ago
 
@Neal Pointy makes a good... point
 
3:04 PM
Twitter, Inc. (@TwitterEng) joined W3C http://dlvr.it/22l89w
 
3:14 PM
RT @w3c: Twitter, Inc. (@TwitterEng) joined W3C http://dlvr.it/22l89w
 
Yay feeds! \o/
 
@rlemon Mass is same everywhere. Just because you're on the moon doesn't mean you have less matter.
 
Hah... didn't even see that he was talking kilograms
 
Unless other forces add or detract mass, it remains.
 
3:22 PM
@dievardump Sweet graphic. But are they referring to HTML5 (buzzword) or HTML5 (actual HTML5)?
 
@FlorianMargaine self made ,yes!
 
html5 semantics
with <header> <footer> etc...
I don't think 34 of the top 100 websites use canvas and audio API (which I believe is what you're referring to when you say buzzword)
god I need to improve my english
 
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Q: Only drop to element that is seen

NealI have the following HTML: <div class="draggable"> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet </div> <div class="draggable"> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet </div> <div class="droppableA drop"></div> <div class="droppableB drop"></div>ā€‹ With the following CSS: .dr...

I need a better Question title....
 
Drag and drop to visible and topmost element only?
 
@FabrƭcioMattƩ thats what I need.
Basically on my real page I have an overflow-y: scroll; area that gets put behind another div
but forsome reason the stuff that is hidden gets dropped to....
 
3:35 PM
FFS... I have to explain to the designer why I need a transparent PNG instead of a JPG when there is a gradient on the background of the parent element...
 
lulz
Not a very good designer ;-)
 
hehe
 
I'll take a look at the fiddle, long time i don't fight with the UI troll techs
 
I now understand why they say " France is known to be good at design "
 
@FabrƭcioMattƩ well the fiddle just crappy test code... I cant paste my whole page.... In the fiddle i used position absolute, which I do not have in my real code.
 
3:36 PM
Well, if you don't know why it's sometimes better to use PNG... sure they can't be worse
Well I don't even try to explain him why it's bad to put text in images
Or It will never end
 
my floor !!!!
 
My designer and I have a long-standing "fight" about cufon.
 
use it (y) , i'd say
but only if u want IE 7
 
@Abhishek please, stop with your webkit only and add "prefixfree" to your fiddles
Nice, btw
 
@dievardump its fast to webkit only
and then prefix-free em
oh wait i can (XD)
i totally forgot i am on windows
i have a much better firefox :$
 
3:42 PM
@Abhishek Your floor?
 
for the map :$
for the game (x
my rendering engine is 30% done :$
 
Team DOM (y)
 
now that I'm thinking about it
 
I'll probably end up using DOM, rather than canvas. If I even attempt anything.
 
3:45 PM
what I want is not a collision detection library, it's not possible, it has to be a game engine :/
 
Anyway... I'm heading out for lunch. Back later.
 
NP++ vs Dreamweaver holy war going on in the office
 
@FlorianMargaine yeap
@SomeKittens tell em vim
 
I did (though I'm a NP++ guy)
 
@Abhishek I match your Vim, and raise Emacs
 
3:49 PM
new web-dev after reading my page source:: Madness This is Madness..
Me :: Madness ??
.
.
.
THIS IS CSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Begun, the editor wars have.
 
@Neal I was thinking about stopping the event propagation but as I couldn't find any easy way to do that, here's a hackish "solution" with the disabled option faking a stop propagation: jsfiddle.net/ult_combo/Wp4LU/6
 
@SomeKittens Libre Writer is better than Microsoft Word!!!
ducks
 
@FabrƭcioMattƩ I updated my fidde/question so u you can really see the issue
drag something to the bottom, and it also gets appended to the other one behind the bottom.
@FabrícioMatté ^^
 
I see, my ugly hack works the other way around in the new fiddle then rofl (appends to the bottom div instead of the top one)
 
4:00 PM
@FabrƭcioMattƩ yea. I need it to append to the bottom div only if I an dragging to the bottom. otherwise append it to another one of the lipsum rows.
 
I'm looking through the documentation, they even handle nested droppables but not overlapped ones apparently, +1 for the time being
 
@FabrƭcioMattƩ Yea... and it very irritating... The bottom area basically is for adding options to a certain task. and dragging to another draggable just makes child elements in my code... but they do not work nice together... :-(
I added everything someone needs to recreate this page in the OP.
 
Yup, I understand your intention perfectly, I couldn't find how to cancel the drop event on the UI yet though
 
@dievardump simurai is a beast
 
4:07 PM
I know.
 
@dievardump thats leet!
 
really :/
 
took me bout 2 seconds to realize
oh wow hes just tricking ur eyes :D
jsfiddle.net/GGExv/3/ <- Check this out
firefox is much perfect then chrome :o
 
@Neal jsfiddle.net/ult_combo/Wp4LU/16 <- surely needs optimization and removing the hover class after drop, anyway check if it works :P
 
and worse even , chrome 18 works perfect (XD)
 
4:10 PM
@FabrƭcioMattƩ hmmmm
lemme try on real site.
 
@Abhishek any module I could write in C++ for node.js ? :|
 
I know that code is beyond uglyness, but can't find any decent way to prevent event propagation to other UI widgets
 
@FlorianMargaine first write C++ basics then jump on node
or u will be lost :-/
 
I kinda know C++ basics, I'll just waste time if I go in tutorials
 
try writing a binding to your docgenerator ;-)
natively :3
 
4:12 PM
hmmm
so that require('docgenerator') includes a C++ module?
 
yeap
but is docgenerator javabased?
?
 
javabased?
 
ah no not at all
look at the code it's not much github.com/Ralt/docgenerator/tree/master/lib
it uses markdown_py to process the markdown though
 
@FlorianMargaine no it doesnt work... :-\
 
4:15 PM
?
 
I meant @FabrícioMatté
stupid keyboard
 
function getHead() snigger
 
aww lol
yeah you have to make sure to include all those classes in the .draggable selector, no luck?
 
@Zirak lol
 
4:15 PM
beat me bro!
 
@Loktar ok, np
 
0
Q: Joomla appendButton loading incorrect HTML

SomeKittensButton code: $bar=& JToolBar::getInstance( 'toolbar' ); $bar->appendButton( 'Popup', 'new', 'Add Client', 'index.php?option=com_****&view=client&form=new&tmpl=component', 600, 400 ); Clicking on the button loads the modal window correctly, but the HTML inside is VERY messed ...

 
@Loktar It's on
 
@FabrƭcioMattƩ no...
 
4:16 PM
lol yeah I know im not the fastest in world or anything but I was surprised
 
Mine was 60 or something last time I tried
 
I was like damn 83?
since I pretty much peck type too
 
added a lil stuff ^_^
hope u guys like it :D
 
the heck
 
4:17 PM
yay
 
 
nice man
 
BOOM
 
jeeze.
 
4:17 PM
wow nice @Zirak
 
w00t ^_^
 
3 wrong words, the transitions confused the hell outa me
 
man > 100 is nice
yeah the transitions suck
 
Yeah, me too
 
:-$
 
4:18 PM
it should wait until you finish both lines
 
1 wrong word
 
and then go to the top
 
0 wrong
 
Because I corrected the wrong ones
 
4:19 PM
there was a competition when I was at school some months ago
I was the fastest type of school with 111 words :p
in french though
 
thats awesome
 
so we had to take accents etc into account <<
111 or 112, don't remember
 
/me begins training montage of me becoming a faster typer
 
@Zirak yes your mass would be the same, but you would weigh different... which was my original question
 
@rlemon Kilograms is a unit of mass, not of weight
 
61 :-/
but i try to connect the words .. fuck my brain
 
It's like saying "I can eat 10 miles"
 
@Neal naughty
 
4:20 PM
@Neal you used a lil javascript
 
lol I considered doing that as well
 
@Abhishek no, look at the url
of the screenshot
 
i did
 
haha ohh nice
 
4:21 PM
yeah
 
@Abhishek no js whatsoever!
it is an image!
 
oh lmao
 
Can someone explain me the radio button trick ?
 
 
I can not understand how others are aware that the active changed
 
@Loktar did it before :D
 
same thought I guess
dude but I got over 9000
 
haha totally
 
4:22 PM
@Zirak but I asked how much it weighs in kilograms. So i'm asking for the weight, depicted as Kilograms relative to the weight of one kilogram on earth. I didn't think anyone would be pedantic enough for me to have to make this distinction
 
@FlorianMargaine damn , @Loktar we all think the same :!
 
haha nice
apparently we pay too much attn. to memes
 
Too easily manipulated haha
 
ah, nice one
 
Okay now stop harassing that website for humour
it didnt let me do
ItsOver9000 instead of the number :-/ so bad
 
@rlemon But it's a one variable equation, where the weight is the variable. W = mg; you know m, you know g. So unless you can trap mass in another equation, and somehow correlate it to W, your question is moot. Or, another likely case, where I'm missing something.
 
More accurately, you can calculate W, and you'll have the same answer in kilograms, because m = W/g
 
4:33 PM
@Esailija personally adressing u now :P
would u be taking part in the competition ?
 
^^
 
or would u serve as critique ?
 
what competition
 
don't really have time, I just started studies and also am behind in work (serves me right for slacking :D)
 
4:34 PM
ah then nvm :-)
 
you see I haven't reached rep cap in a long time now
1-2 weeks
so I am stuck at 30k rep
 
Heaven's above!
 
:'(
 
OMFG
 
4:35 PM
How do you live with yourself, @Esailija? How?
 
I don't know, it's really sad
100k is now only an unrealistic dream
 
@FlorianMargaine , @Loktar , @Amaan , @rlemon , @RyanKinal sorry for this gigantic pings but i think i am expanding the timelimit .. just make it end of sept. so that all of us get enough time
what do you say ?
 
why no webGL ?
 
@rlemon hehe
 
4:37 PM
sure @Abhishek
 
@rlemon Its... its ... its OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dievardump considering half the hardware in the world doesnt supports it
and the rest competitors who cant use it cant just keep with it
i mean u just cant do what webgl can with simple canvas
 
oh ok
 
Still the best ^_^
 
@dievardump do it in webgl if you want, really
we're the only competitors, who cares
 
you guys gotta see this one (XD)
Windows Media Player taking mouse and keyboard input .. and hacking into networks!! boy thats leet!
 
4:51 PM
ahaahahah
 
:P
@JoeyMorani iirc websocket sucks for binary
 

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