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posted on July 27, 2020 by Saurabh

Emulator 30.0.23 is now available in the Canary and Dev channels.  General fixes available in this release: Fixed hang-on-exit when emulator issues shell commands with long/indefinite timeouts.Removed spam about flushing mapped buffer with NULL.Vulkan ASTC/ETC2 emulation shaders are now baked into the libOpenglRender library.

 
hello
 
 
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7:48 AM
Hello, hardworking people!
 
Bold of you to assume that we are all people
 
beings*
 
8:08 AM
Not too bad, I bought another desktop
Might have gotten scammed though
SGD 300 for i5-7600 + 256gb SSD + a monitor
Seems legit
 
8:30 AM
well, seems like you pulled an mwb :D
 
It's alright, running scams in Singapore isn't a bright idea
I will either get a computer, or get to ruin that guy's life
Both are acceptable
 
Tim
have you seen mwb recently?
 
@RaghavSood Now you got me curious
 
@Tim he showed up 1 or 2 weeks ago quickly and dropped a few messages
 
8:46 AM
@MuratKaragöz I paid via local bank networks, so everything is traceable, the police is usually quite happy to go after these people, and they will usually end up with a few weeks of jail time/large fines and a record
SG is a small place
You can't really avoid being caught, and it sticks with you forever
 
Tim
@Mehdi how far are you in s3?
 
Why are you uploading Mehdi to an object store
 
Tim
:)
 
9:14 AM
@RaghavSood Hmm, I'm a bit skeptical :D would you have someone go to jail and have a record for a 200€ theft, when/if (only if) you can financially bear the loss?
 
Tim
yes fuck them
 
hahaha
@Tim I'm on the 4th episode :D
 
Tim
I am ready to start 5!
 
@Mehdi If it is their first offence and they're not mean to the judge, they'll probably get off with a fine
If during the investigation, it's discovered they were scamming lots of people, then this is on them
 
@Tim I'm disappointed that there are only 6 episodes though...
@RaghavSood right, I missed that fact, chances are that they already scammed others
 
9:18 AM
I mean, even if they didn't, they should probably be a better person if they don't want to be treated like a bad person
 
Tim
6? I didn't know :///
 
Synced starred message data. Took 252521 ms.
 
9:44 AM
Where's the bot when you need it
 
10:12 AM
Hello all good noon
Did anyone display doc file in app?
 
No, you're the first person in the history of the world to attempt that
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Hmm. Actually, nothing interesting was said on this day last year.
 
@RaghavSood Seems you just started using smart phone
 
Tim
are you saying other people have already imlemented in their app?
 
I'm asking if anyone implemented this and may suggest a way how to implement it
 
10:30 AM
I'm pretty sure you can use google docs through an intent - if that's an option for you
otherwise, there are a few options here for in-app display stackoverflow.com/questions/10447865/…
 
Tim
where do you get the patience
 
I'm trying to increase the traffic, but it will certainly not last XD
 
Good effort, but we'll get more traffic if we manage to end up in meta questions again
 
10:50 AM
it's the right period, we haven't had any major drama in a year
 
Tim
what was the last drama again?
 
I think Monica, then the mass resignations of the mods
 
Tim
hmm oh I thought you were talking about drama involving us
 
I tried with this and I tried by downloading file also but I'm not able to make the file visible
 
we're good kids, we didn't generate much drama site-scale as far as I know :D
 
Tim
10:58 AM
the scene after the intro of episode 5 xDDDDDDD
 
now I want this working day to finish to watch it XD
 
I'm trying to view saved doc file but its not opening
@Mehdi I'm trying to open doc file saved in local storage but its not working pastebin.com/yGAvDaC6
 
11:16 AM
What happens
 
11:56 AM
I guess he found a solution
 
12:14 PM
Yes I found thanks
 
12:29 PM
it's always nice to post an update when a solution is found :D
 
it's a secret
 
because of industrial espionage risks?
 
spot on
 
XD
 
12:46 PM
There goes any economic value in hanging out in this room
Now I'll never be able to mint money showing doc files to people on Android phones
 
being part of this room is just a meme
 
Sep 24 '18 at 18:26, by TeachMeJava
Now can I say "hey" or will you continue the military order?
One of my favorite messages in this room XD
 
1:14 PM
LOL
Sep 24 '18 at 18:29, by Mauker
That's why I'm fat. I ate too much memory
Right below it
 
Just ordered a new laptop for my mother
You can get pretty far these days with a cheap laptop and a bunch of spare parts
 
Skynet progress [==== ] 65%
 
I wish buying a new laptop added 5% :(
 
:(
Fixed
 
Sounds about right
 
1:16 PM
@Mehdi I also liked the " I've read them but I won't do it again"
Also hi all
 
Hi Nya
 
Hi all
How are you ?
 
@Nyakouai and with a dot at the end, to assert dominance XD
 
@Mehdi
I have one question
 
The thing that asserted dominance was the door slamming on his unvoluntary way out. That was gold.
 
1:28 PM
@Mehdi Which reminds me of this:
Jun 4 at 21:01, by Mauker
user image
 
Is it possible to detect or get call back that app is removed from recent app stack or kill by user because I need that if app is on background and if user remove from there then need to logout?
 
Asserting dominance
Freedom style
 
@Nyakouai hahaha
 
can you please check my query ?
 
Probably with a BroadcastReceiver
 
1:30 PM
@Mauker yeah that's dominance assertion Kim Jung Un style :D
 
@Shailesh #1046 - No database selected
@Mehdi :D
 
@MuratKaragöz If provide some help full link to know the implementation then its good for me
@Mauker Mean :|
 
jk :(
 
@Shailesh sorry, I am not up-to-date with android anymore :/
 
1:36 PM
@Mehdi OK, thanks for reply
@MuratKaragöz I know this but I don't know that where I need to implement this broadcast receiver
 
You probably can't detect that reliably, what are you trying to do/why do you need that information?
 
@RaghavSood I read your stack overflow answer and know this things but then also I asked here. I need this because when app is removed or closed from background(recent app stack) then need to logout from the app
 
TIL I have an SO answer about this
But yeah, looks like this isn't possible >= API 26, prior to that you had the onTaskRemoved callback
 
1:52 PM
Yeah, exactly you explained that on that SO answer
Is there any other way that we can do this kind of implementation ?
 
Tim
there are a bunch more scenarios in which the app stops running, you can't catch them
 
You could probably do the reverse - try and detect if the app is being opened while already open, or from a clean slate via some mix of FLAG_ACTIVITY_LAUNCHED_FROM_HISTORY and onResume
 
@Tim Yeah, I have read this also because as you informed and other that some time less memory than also this happen
 
Tim
did I? XD
 
@RaghavSood Is there any implementation because I am finding this type of solution from last 6 to 7 hours but didn't get anything?
 
1:57 PM
No idea, it's just a thought - might not work at all
 
Tim
why people always trying to make weird shit
 
hmm
 
you can't make system maintenance and onboarding of new colleagues too easy, Tim
 
Tim
seems accurate
 
it works tho
 
morning yall o/
 
2:34 PM
@Shailesh do you want to know app is in background or do you want to know when app is killed?
both are not same
 
@ColdFusion I want to know when app is killed from background
 
its possible to know the former the latter is kinda impossible ( reliably) in android
what is your use case?
 
Tim
maybe you can hook up the app lifecycle events for ON_STOP (moved to background) and ON_DESTROY
so if (destroyed && was stopped) then do things
 
when app start user is logged in into the app now if user is press home button and app goes to background(recent app stack). Now whenever app is removed from background at that time I need to logout the user. This is my case @ColdFusion
 
destroyed is not guaranteed to be called
 
Tim
2:37 PM
it's the best he can do
 
@Shailesh ah i see
hmm normally apps dont logout users
 
Tim
yah it's a bit strange
@Shailesh are you hiding something??
3
 
@Tim Yes but I want this type of implementation
 
also you can do that server side with timeout
why you want to do this from app?
 
@Tim normally there is no logout, I am not hiding anything
 
2:40 PM
:D
 
@ColdFusion my app is chat app so once user remove app from background I need to send event to server that user is not available
 
@Shailesh can be done from onpause
 
Why not simply use a keep alive ping while your app is open or are you hiding something?
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@ColdFusion Do you mean I can do this by using onpause?
 
^ what murat said
@RaghavSood there is a somewhat replacement of it for use case people normally use, not 100% but yeah developer.android.com/reference/android/arch/lifecycle/…
 
2:43 PM
@MuratKaragöz I am not hiding anything I just need to send event socket to server once app is removed from recent apps stack
 
that is where you are wrong xD
app shouldnt be concerned from where its getting killed
@Shailesh yes
 
@Shailesh Well I think Murat nailed it, you could do it the other way around, keep sending your event periodically to the server: "I am still alive", say every 5 minutes or so, and when the server doesn't receive a ping after a 5 minute interval, it should understand that the app is killed and therefore removing the auth token of your app.
 
this isn't really the app responsibility a timeout(keep-alive ) will serve better
 
OK, you informed me I can achieve this by using onpause then let me know that which activity onpause I need to use
 
2:50 PM
Ok let me check it and try to implement on my project
 
also which activity xD? do you think i have a crystal ball man?
 
Give your riches, you probably do
 
Yeah, let me try
 
Keep alive pings are the clear, sane option here
 
2:52 PM
^
 
All your "detect app in XYZ state" shenanigans are going to end up with a inconsistent, buggy, unpredictable, and unreliable behaviour
If I had a chat app do that to me I would uninstall it, then install it, then uninstall it again just out of spite
 
skynet in action
 
OK, right now I am doing that kind of ping but I don't know server side it is received or not
 
XD
then how would you have known if the server received the ping when your app is killed?
 
Arg
Still not found a good way to send emails using firebase
Everything I've found is premium..I don't wanna pay a penny OK?!
 
Tim
2:59 PM
tough shit. Everything isn't free
 
But something could be
 
Do you own a domain name?
 
No
Do I need one?
 
Then how would you send emails anyways?
The emails have to come from somewhere
 
3:01 PM
With a gmail account
 
Gmail has an SMTP interface, write a firebase function to log in, send your email, log out
And then come back here 3 weeks later after Google bans your gmail account and apps for ToS violations
 
Because they tell you not to use gmail in the readme:
For simplicity, in this sample we're showing how to send email through SMTP using a Gmail account. Be aware that Gmail has an email sending quota. If you are planning on sending a large number of emails you should use a professional email sending platform such as Sendgrid, Mailjet or Mailgun.
 
I've read it
So what should I use instead of Gmail?
 
SMTP is a common standard - it will work with most email providers, it's just that GMail does not let you send mass commercial mails
 
3:03 PM
All of them are not free
Or are they?
 
How many emails are you planning to send?
 
The user has to receive a code via email to login
So not many mails
 
How many
 
I don't know really
 
1 a month? 10? 100? 10000000000?
 
3:05 PM
100 if we are optimistic
 
SES is free for 10k a month, or something like that
Sendgrid etc. also have a free tier
 
SES?
 
Do I have only 1 year free?
 
I believe it's under their "always free" tier
But if you are sending more than 10k emails per month in one year, you probably want to start paying for stuff
 
3:07 PM
"Accounts AWS include a one year access to the free plan"
Not more than 10k at all
 
62k outbound messages per month are always free when you call from inside AWS
It's about 10k from outside
But you will be charged for bandwidth
If you're looking at 100 a month, then sendgrid or mailgun or other such services' free tier should cover it
 
3:32 PM
posted on July 27, 2020 by Android Developers

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presentation skills: zero
 
@Mehdi I didn't get scammed :D
Now I have two identical desktops, and a nice 22" HD LED monitor
 
3:48 PM
@RaghavSood hahaha
how many desktops do you have now?
 
Two M910Ts, four laptops, and two NUCs in various states of functionality
I can probably scavenge both NUCs into a working one
 
4:06 PM
how big is your desk exactly? XD
 
They're not all on my desk - desk is just two laptops, two monitors, and a 3d printer
The rest are in other rooms/under the desk
I bought a dining table for my desk in NZ, normal desks are too small
My SG desk is just a regular ikea one
 
and do you transport all that from NZ to SG?
 
No, I have an additional two laptops + two desktops + 1 nuc in NZ
Only my primary two laptops, and occasionally a Mac Mini travel with me
I keep duplicates of the rest of the infra
Hence the push for low cost, since I usually need to buy it twice
 
and concretely, where do you consider your home to be? SG or NZ?
 
I'm not picky, although I'd like to settle in NZ in the long term
 
4:14 PM
nice :D
 
gonna be fun explaining to the customs officer when I finally do consolidate
"Ah, yes, I need a datacenter worth of computers for... reasons"
 
today on garbage apis -> ActionMode
 
So turns out I don't have any more USB wifi adapters in SG :(
So the desktop will have to wait a few days
 
4:59 PM
Nice, both my used desktops have 7 months of onsite, NBD warranty remaining
NBD for major repairs, 4hr for onsite checks and minor ones, excellent
 
5:42 PM
@RaghavSood I see skynet progress at 80% now
also fuck raghav is like a walking computer now
@IvanMilisavljevic what did they fucked?
 
there is no way to handle back button
 
5:53 PM
It's for the best, you shouldn't wanna go backwards in life, Ivan
 
6:05 PM
there is
 
6:19 PM
What is mvn install?
Where should I write it?
 
where your pom.xml file is
 
And where is it?
 
well, only you know the structure of your project. But it's usually on the root of the project and of the sub-modules
 
6:34 PM
@RaghavSood I've implemented SendGrid, but...
<<I have already spent/wasted 2 days trying to integrate SendGrid into my app and every single time it either fails because of the:
java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: No static field INSTANCE of type org/apache/http/conn/ssl/AllowAllHostnameVerifier; #588

or the duplication of libraries, or something else. This is particularly frustrating and with the issue first reported more than 3 years ago, I couldn't find a straightforward "just works" solution as of now.>>
I've the same problem
 
@RaghavSood Just mail them in several shipments.
 
6:50 PM
o/
 
was about time you showed up bb
 
hahahaha
I'm ... just starting work now
 
i have a problem where i listen to the same song on repeat for like 3 days and then move on to a new song
 
Is that a problem?
 
idk seems abnormal
 
6:57 PM
I think lots of autistic people do that
sounds normal
sorry in advance mehdi
 
sup bbbbb
 
@ballBreaker who you callin autistic
 
@ballBreaker millennials... smh
 
7:00 PM
@ColdFusion not a ton dude, was out a bit late last night on a date.. so I had a late start today hahaha I drank friday-saturday-sunday so I'm pretty hurtin
@Mehdi hehehe
 
lol nice
 
yeee lol the girl was sooooo russian
she spoke less english than I thought she would
but on the other side she was the most beautiful girl I've ever gone on a date with haha so .. .we'll see
 
lmao
you're over 4.2mil now eh that's insane
 
its florida
flordia is such a shitty state
 
7:07 PM
I guess it's good they're willing to, but that's quite pessimistic to conclude something like that a year ahead of time.
 
@JBis pretty sure california has higher numbers than florida
and new york is just under florida
 
But, would any employees even complain if they just never went back to the office? lol
 
pretty sure ur whole country is a shitty state, sorry
 
xD
@ballBreaker nice keep us posted
 
hahahaha will do CF!
I sent her a "lets do a second date" text this morning so I'll see what she thinks
 
7:09 PM
I'm pretty sure positive test cases are a shitty statistic. I'm sure the real number is much higher than 4.2mil
 
NY was the first. We implemented specific measures and virtually eradicated the diseases in NY. We also slowly reopened and watched numbers closely.
 
@twiz yeah it's gotta be way higher
but it's all we really have
 
Florida said "fuck it!" and didn't do anything to stop the spread
 
it's too bad you guys don't have inter-state borders lol
 
in fact they specific manipulated data and reported false numbers to make them look good
 
7:10 PM
I'd like to see hospitalization/death rates more. I'm yet to see that data presented in a reasonable way.
 
@twiz yeah that's all being fudged hard too
 
@ballBreaker why?
 
stop the retards from other states spreading to yours
 
I don't care if its fudged as long as its fudged consistently.
 
lol
Yeah fair enough
 
7:11 PM
@JBis and the data scientist who maintained the covid dashboard got fired lol
 
It's not hard to look at "pneumonia" deaths that aren't included as covid and get somewhat of a picture
also uptick in organ failures, heart attacks etc
 
@ballBreaker yeah but that precedent creates other issues, its also unconsitutional
 
yeah im mostly kidding
I'm not really trying to have an actual discourse on this as much as I just wanna make fun of you
hehe
 
I wanna see a statistic about the % of trump voters vs % of hillary voters per district who have contracted the corona virus
 
I think I saw something on that actual
red voters in red states, vs blue voters in red states and that kinda thing
so not exactly what you're looking for, but kind of similar
 
7:14 PM
But that would be skewed if one group is more likely to get tested.
 
Let me see if I can dig it up
Yeah they'd have to normalize it in some way
 
tests are useless anyway
 
yup
 
Plus I assume more Clinton voters live in urban areas where they would be more likely to contract it anyway.
 
most people get results back in like 16 days
which makes them pointless
 
7:15 PM
Too many other variables.
 
@twiz yeah, thats why you would need per district
 
16 fucking days?
 
@JBis Mine took 4 days.
 
i think you get result in a day or 2 here
 
@twiz when did you get it?
 
7:15 PM
A couple weeks ago.
 
Things may have changed
I know a couple kids in flordia who haven't been able to get tests for > 2 weeks
 
I think some places are 16 days because they're so behind
 
Yea, I assume it would all depend on the capacity of local labs and how many people are getting tests.
 
I took my in early June. The testing center decided not to give us the results. So we had to call, and there like "oops they've been done for days".
 
At least that's what I heard
 
7:17 PM
i really hope my senior year isn't fucked :(
im in NY so i still have a chance
 
I still think its funny that everyone knew this would eventually happen. The federal gov has an agency dedicated to pretty much specifically this problem, yet absolutely no preparation was ever done for it actually happening.
 
Man I think I would have loved to stay home for senior year haha although I probaly would have gotten arrested more than just the once
2
way harder to stay out of trouble when you have to go to school
@twiz Yeah the whole thing was a mess from the start. I swear I was the only person I knew that saw this coming from january
or at least it felt that way
 
dare i ask what you got arrested for?
 
mischief under $5000
 
wat'd you do?
 
7:21 PM
so it wasn't a felony thankfully and got a diversion so it was thrown out instead of me getting a record
and a diversion is basically "you do this list of things and go on probation and we toss the charge"
I spray painted my high school haha
the most retarded thing I've ever done for sure
 
@ballBreaker This is the first time in years any news has been relevant, so I don't think I really knew it was a big deal until like mid march. haha
 
thats pretty weak
 
@twiz hahaha shit that's actually such a good point
We were one of the first countries to get a case outside of china sometime in january, and as soon as that happened I knew we were fucked
Well as soon as I heard "epidemic" and "chinese new year" in the same sentence I knew we were fucked but still
@JBis hahaha yeah
it's hilarious looking back on it now though
 
@ballBreaker lol how did you possibly expect to get away with that?
 
and somehow my teachers and principals ended up liking me more after the incident than they did before
 
7:24 PM
@JBis hahahaha
 
What did you spray paint?
 
@twiz well I just did dumb stuff like dicks, and I did the halflife symbol and stuff like that, the guy I did it with who I didn't see what he did because we split up and tagged different areas of the school, did racist stuff and swastikas and all that .. so haha
it was definitely way worse than it should have been
I didn't realize he did that until the next day when school was in and I saw it.. I knew I was screwed instantly
 
Well at least you weren't the dumbest of the idiots.
 
and apparently he asked like one or two people if they wanted to join us, so they ratted us out instantly
I didn't know he did any of the dumb shit otherwise I would have hard declined
But I was retarded as well so
v0v
cops and teachers liked me because as soon as they called me in I just admitted to doing it because I knew we were fucked regardless lol so I got off super easy
he went to jail
he was like "deny til I die bro!" hahah yeah okay
doesn't work that way if you have essentially witnesses to you confessing and conspiring to do it, idiot
on a different note, this project that I'm getting is turning into a bigger mess than I thought it might be
I'm kind of dreading that I'm going to be the only developer on it lol
 
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