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8:00 PM
@Dharman It is easier for you to say that. Only when you start getting a bunch of downvotes for no reason you will understand it
 
Just imagine all posts are anonymous. Don't focus on who posted what. Stop looking at the votes unless you really think that the votes are seriously harming Stack Overflow.
 
I would assume that tomorrow there will be more downvotes because I commented here
 
@akrun let's just say people in the PHP tag don't like being told that their code has security problems and that Dharman is probably more than familiar with revenge downvotes
 
Yeap
 
@akrun that is not nice. Assuming you mean with here this room.
 
8:05 PM
@akrun I don't understand that. How does a flag that someone has closed as a dupe get handled? I would assume the moderator would either look at the dupe and agree/ disagree or hand it to another subject matter expert.
 
@rene I am not casting any doubts on you guys. But, from the number of downvotes today, I can only assume that somebody visited this site
 
@akrun From what I can observe in the GMTs transcript is that R users are annoyed that you are answering too many questions instead of closing them as dupes. How about a crazy idea. Stop answering for a month and only close new questions as dupes if you can find a correct one. With the amount of answers you have you should be able to find matching dupes for many questions. Maybe this will make other users change their perception of you.
 
yes, 10,000 visit this site every day.
 
In the past few days, I have not even reacted to anybody or challenged downvotes or anything of that sort happened. So, the only possible reaction is somebody have seen it from here
@Dharman What they are saying becomes only true if those members don't answer dupe questions. But, they answer it everyday and then accuse somebody
@Dharman Also, the Id that I shared earlier is part of that group. So, if they are pissed of this dupes, then they should start from them
I find a third of those answers from that id as clear dupes and not even related ones
 
@akrun Your comments read like you link this room and its members to your downvote pet peeve. Be careful what you intend to communicate.
 
8:08 PM
^ +1
 
@rene I am not saying that the members here does that. It is just that anybody can visit any chat room
 
Okay, that is not a problem, I nor anyone in the world can fix.
 
Also, I didn't want to say that it was them, only bcz the discussion about how somebody can evade the system downvote tracking went there
 
Is it especially easy to 'stalk' people in chatrooms? I don't know how to find out what rooms a given user is active in, unless they want me to know.
 
@akrun I really think that you should be downvoting more, but I can't tell you how to vote and I don't want you to start revenge voting. However, I really find it hard to believe that all these duplicates and wrong answers are not downvote-worthy.
@AdrianMole Click on their username
 
8:12 PM
@akrun afaik, you are worrying for nothing, nothing a group of user can do downvoting your post would affect you meaningfully. You get more reputation and tag score a day than what a group of users can take away from you in a week.
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@Dharman TIL.
 
@Braiam It is not about the vote. I guess I am not worried about that part. It is a different feeling
 
@akrun yeah, ignore that feeling :D
Some feelings aren't worth our time, and imaginary number on the internet shouldn't cause any feeling that one should worry for.
 
@Braiam I do agree, but social media is a hit bcz of how it impacts. Even presidents frame executive orders when their tweets are fact checked :=)
 
BTW, the most downvoted user on the site is also the most upvoted user on the site... just think about it.
 
8:16 PM
Here is how I would handle questions. Open stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/r?tab=Newest and check new questions as they come. If the answer you can think of has been provided before then find it and hammer the question. If you think the duplicate will not help people find that question you linked downvote and move to the next question.
If by the time you get to the question there are answers then review them without looking at who answered it and downvote the ones, which are wrong, poorly worded, clearly copied from previous questions or simply not useful, because they suggest bad ideas even if correct.
 
@akrun - comparing yourself to the Drumpf is not helping your cause ;D
 
If the after searching some time for the right answer to link to, you still can't find any and the question is a useful problem then provide a new answer.
If an existing answer seems to solve the problem and is something that you would write yourself or even better than upvote.
 
@Dharman I find it less time consuming to answer than searching for a dupe link. Sometimes, it takes a lot of time because of the correct search value
 
@akrun Take for example this question: stackoverflow.com/q/62602226/1839439 There is no code in the question. No attempt. This probably means that the person who asked it did not do proper research. Spend 10-30 minutes looking for an appropriate duplicate answer and if you can't find one consider editing the question to make it into a new duplicate target. Then provide a new answer.
 
@akrun From looking at a few of your answers that GMTs has complained about, you have a tendency to provide the code to (one or more) solutions without much in the way of explanations of how they work, or in the case of multiple solutions, why someone should pick one of those solutions over the other. These sorts of "code-only" solutions are also frowned upon by any users.
Compare to this answer of yours that has no downvotes - this is a great answer, with plenty of explanation.
 
8:21 PM
@akrun That is a problem I can identify with, but the more you dilute the information the harder it will get to find the correct duplicate. Create a list of popular ones either using bookmarks, notepad or excel and start closing as they come
 
@akrun The fact that it "takes less time" to answer rather than "finding a dupe" is really no justification for answering. That attitude will not be popular in this room, I think.
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@RyanM that is not a general case. If you check most of my answers, I do give explanations. In some case, yes, I may have forgot to do so, or got busy in something else
 
I can't speak for the tag but, in and , there are a number of 'common' duplicates, which I keep links to in my Bookmarks.
 
In PHP I keep some in bookmarks and some in Notepad
It really helps to quickly close questions
 
I am all for closing duplicates, but if they don't prevent more duplicates, I feel my efforts wasted.
 
8:24 PM
@AdrianMole I don't want to be a hypocrite like somebody who dupe tags similar questions when others answers and answer it without tagging while they themselves answer
 
But most often I just downvote questions as I see them.
 
Also, if you don't have the time to post a full and accurate answer, then don't post a "Fastest-Finger" version, just for the sake of it.
 
@akrun Then start closing the ones you would normally answer before anyone else gets a chance to post an answer. This way you will show others answerers that you are not doing this to throw the duplicate in their faces.
 
@AdrianMole Do you have some advice on how to find a duplicate and not die trying?
 
Exactly. Sometimes you can even wait a day or two before posting an answer. Sleep on it. Maybe you will remember the right duplicate target in the morning.
 
8:27 PM
@JohnDvorak I advise a nice, fluffy pillow to scream into. I tried screaming into the void, but I couldn't figure out how many *s to put next to it because I'm not a C++ programmer.
 
@JohnDvorak I guess that depends a lot on the tag/language. As I acquire experience, my use of the 'right' keywords is improving.
 
@JohnDvorak Pareto principle. Just look at the most linked questions :D
There's literally a link that tells you what questions are most asked stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/javascript?tab=Frequent
 
@JohnDvorak But a serious answer: I have bookmarked a bunch of common [android] questions and I get new ones when I see people link them. Sometimes I go fix up an old question for a dupe target. Also, I mostly use Google search with site:stackoverflow.com, not Stack Overflow search.
 
^ basically that, although I do use SO search from time to time, but usually Google. The folder in which I have SO bookmarks, including a sub-folder for dup-targets separated by primary tag is one of the folders in my bookmarks toolbar, so the links are literally right there, making it easy to find. If the title stored in the bookmark isn't something that I'm easily finding, then I just change the bookmark so I see it.
 
I often use Google to get information to help with an answer I'm writing ... and then find a duplicate. Annoying, if I've already committed some time to my proto-Answer, but that doesn't make it OK for me to continue.
 
8:34 PM
I'll also try just selecting text from the question, commonly just the title, or parts of it, and do a Google search on that using the selection context menu. That will very commonly turn up a duplicate within the first few search results.
 
@RyanM @Makyen apropos of nothing, has this request made it to the mysterious backroom or did it get lost in the shuffle of message? (I'll patiently await the results, just wanted to make sure it got spotted)
 
@Dharman why you are linking only on my post regarding the dupe which they are not
 
@akrun I am trying to help you find one.
 
I showed here 3 or 4 posts that are clear dupes. Nobody have any issue with that. Because of your links there, it would be downvoted
 
This is the newest question I opened in the R I am not picking on you.
 
8:36 PM
@Dharman That is for getting the count if you check it
 
I doubt that becasue of my links your post would be downvoted.
 
@RyanM Ahhh... sorry about that. It was lost in the shuffle. Thanks for the reminder
 
@Makyen No worries, thanks!
 
Please don't target me bcz I mentioned about downvotes here
 
I am not targetting you. I opened the question to find a duplicate and before I could find it, you posted an answer.
 
8:39 PM
@Dharman You are kind of saying that because i have a gold badge, I should use them. I do close questions if you check my profile.
 
If you fear that your post will be downvoted because it has been answered before than find the one from the past and close it instead of answering. If you have answered it before then your new answer does not add anything useful.
 
@akrun Only you (and moderators) can see close votes from your profile
 
@Dharman ok, I think this conversation is not going to be any productive because everybody have a certain way of answering/closing questions. I don't want to be a hypocrite. I answer questions when it gets posted and if I find a dupe liink, I will close it.
 
I can see that other users have complained about you answering too much. I am trying to help you improve the situation.
If you don't want my help finding duplicates then ok. I will back off.
 
@Dharman The persons who have complained are doing the same thing. If I don't do that, then they will have another thing to complain
 
After all the purpose of this room is to close and delete questions.
 
Yes, I understand, but those links are not exact dupes
in most of them they have separate_rows which I happened to use and there is the similarity
 
I deleted the links. I stopped searching, because I get the feeling that you do not want me to find a correct duplicate.
 
Do you guys close a question bcz somebody use a for loop or while loop?
It's not like that
 
I searched like this. I don't know R so I tried to find similarities. stackoverflow.com/…
 
8:44 PM
@Dharman Here is a an obvious dupe, but nobody closed stackoverflow.com/questions/62596726/…
 
What is it a duplicate of? Can you share a link?
 
FWIW I find duplicate closures the hardest to get through. This room helps, but even with help, it's hard to find 3 SMEs to vote yes to the dupe.
 
@Dharman there is two steps in it and that is the reason I can't close it
 
I think I have a couple pending cv-pls requests because they're not as obvious to non-SMEs, and people are cautious about accidentally closing questions that shouldn't be closed
 
@akrun Can you find a link for the second step too?
If you can close as a mixture of two links then it works too
 
8:47 PM
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56624290/r-help-convert-date-time
@Dharman that would trigger a cascade of reaction
 
@akrun What reaction?
 
bcz one can link upto 5 posts. So, they would link 5 answers completely different to dupe tag a post bcz the bits were found in each of them
I wouldn't go that route bcz it would have some disputes and then people will start dupe tagging each question with as many targets
 
I don't know how to help you, man. You claim that post is an obvious duplicate but then you do not want to close it.
 
Here, is a common question, but it is difficult to tag stackoverflow.com/questions/62596326/…
 
It's either a completely new question or there has been an answer before which you can use to close with.
 
8:50 PM
@akrun Thanks for taking care of the onebox, although deleting isn't required. We do try to avoid onebox formatting in here, because it tends to spread attention disproportionately. To avoid onebox formatting, all that's necessary is to have any other text in the message in addition to the URL.
 
@Dharman Please understand my difficulty in tagging a date time, it can be any different order. If somebody tags with a dmy_hms for mdy_hms, it will be reopened
 
In PHP we close questions just because 6 letters match. The less questions the better.
 
If you check the ifelse, everyday at least 3 or 4 questions are asked, but here there is a + involved and that makes it difficult to dupe
@Dharman Here is one I tagged which I think is a correct dupe link stackoverflow.com/questions/62596170/…
 
Hurray!
 
@akrun You say, "I answer questions when it gets posted and if I find a dupe link, I will close it." If, by that, you mean you will answer before even looking for a dupe, then, IMHO, you're doing wrong. Look for the dupe first, and close if you find one. Then don't answer. That's why we close dupes: to stop people posting answers.
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8:54 PM
My point is just simple, whoever is dupe tagging does in a targetted way to downvote
@AdrianMole I disagree to what you meant simply bcz
 
And you care about it because...?
1 closed question is worth 40 revenge downvotes.
 
I am here from 2013. I do check all R related questions without missing anything
From my experience, I would say that everyday, you find dupe questions, no matter how you tag it. So, it means the effort to dupe tag is not working at all
i.e. in 2019, you will find dupes from 2010 to 2019, in 2020, it will be from 2010 to 2020.
 
That is certainly a problem which is why need rooms like this one and more people who are willing to spend a lot of time finding dups and closing questions.
 
or another stackoverflow.com/questions/62593354/… Sorry, it is a long list and I don't time to find dupes for each of them
 
@akrun "simply bcz" is never a good reason...
 
9:03 PM
I just flagged this answer as not being an answer because I thought it was an update to the question, but after reading the comments on the question I realize it was just a lazily written answer. Is there a way I should "cancel" that flag?
 
@JohnDvorak My point here is that with all the selected links which are clear dupes and nobody wants to tag it, I cannot do it on my time
 
@Ruzihm Yep, you can simply click the "flag" link again and you should see a "Retract flag" button
 
@Ruzihm Yes, you can retract any flag but you can't then flag again using the same type
 
thanks
 
However, that is a poor answer and the LQP would most likely delete it
 
9:07 PM
@akrun I'm not really sure where you're going with this. Yes, there are questions that should be tagged as dupes that aren't. Only some will be caught. People will downvote answers to clear duplicates, because they want to discourage writing answers instead of hunting for duplicates. This is generally permitted, as it's voting on the content, though many people frown upon/discourage such crusades against answerers in favor of just closing the questions.
 
@RyanM People won't generally downvote when it is part of a group and also they wouldn't care to dupe tag it. I found at least 20 that should be a dupe within last 9 hours
 
Not downvoting some things is certainly not a flaggable offense.
 
Not downvoting is heavily frowned upon. We should downvote as much as we can.
 
@RyanM I agree with that. My whole point is that if somebody wants to play with the system, they can do it without any problem
@Dharman We should be encouraging people to answer rather than to make it a difficult place to answer
 
I disagree. I really do not want more poor answers or answers that were already provided before.
I want good stuff. I want excellent content which happens very rarely
The rest I can safely downvote.
 
9:11 PM
Yeah, from sitting in the [android] tag a lot, I wish fewer people posted answers. There's a looottttt of crap.
or to put it another way: I wish more people would take the time to understand the question and write useful, thoughtful answers.
 
@Dharman Good stuff is subjecrive
subjective
 
From sitting in PHP tag I really wish people would stop answering Android questions and downvote them more.
 
For a. person not fluent in a language, an answer is great but not to an expert
 
imv, the best way to see which answers are the most useful are to have everyone interested in the answers go to a single place to vote on which ones they like
 
@Dharman bahaha...yeah, I see your comments in review from time to time. Almost every [php] [android] question is bad.
 
9:14 PM
Can you please check if this dupe tag is correct stackoverflow.com/questions/62588876/…
 
and if the answers in that one place are inadequate, then an answer ought to be added to that one place or an answer should be edited so that it is adequate
 
the context is different bcz it used filter but it is simply passing a variable
 
@RyanM If you see my comment then you probably also see my downvote.
 
@Dharman ITYM Besoin de détails ou de clarté
 
Oui
 
9:17 PM
@Dharman Expect some serial not voting coming your way soon! :)
 
Ohh boy I can't wait
 
Another common dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/62587196/… So, this is the 6th or 7th dupe answered by the same person. I am out
 
@akrun this looks like a valid dupe to this non-R user.
me reading the code in that python question "huh, f is an odd name for a radius variab...oh, no, they're just naming their variables a,b,c,d,e,f in order..."
 
I think variables should not have any names. It would be easier if you don't have to come up with a name
 
@Dharman I usually don't downvote and close vote questions unless they're particularly heinous, partly because it's more clicks to open in a tab, and partly because I want to use the downvotes elsewhere
@Dharman this is why I write all my code directly in bytecode, so that I don't have to name things
good ol' 0x56A7BDE9... such a great function
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9:43 PM
so, it is quite clear, somebody is targeting
 
@Makyen It worked. Thanks :)
 
@Scratte Good. I'm glad to hear it.
 
@Makyen I made you red too :)
 
@Dharman Yes, I understand your point, but that was not the reason for the dv because the other post didn't had the dv earlier when I got a dv
 
@akrun Why is this one reopened by you? stackoverflow.com/questions/62584574/…
I am not suprised your answer is downvoted.
 
9:51 PM
@Scratte Hopefully not reddit. :)
 
@akrun Which is an unforgivable sin. I have downvoted the question and the other answer already
 
@Dharman I thought it as not a dupe
@Dharman But that is bcz you thought it is biased
 
What is biased?
What do you mean I though it was biased?
I downvoted because it was code only
It also had noisy comment as part of the answer.
 
@Dharman Yes, but before you downvoted, there was only a dv on my post
 
And it was posted as answer to a question which should be closed, not answered
 
9:53 PM
when both of them have the same issue
 
@akrun Ok, I was biased towards not downvoting your post too, because I knew I could ask you to provide the additional comment and it might salvage that answer, but I still think you should have voted to close instead of answering.
IMHO your answer still deserves downvotes, but I do not feel that strong about it to actually waste my previous downvote
 
@Dharman Bcz it is image only?
 
Yes.
 
there are many questions that are image only but that is only bcz the user may be a newbie
 
@Makyen Nope. Deeper and more respectful red
 
9:55 PM
Then close the question and ask the OP to edit it in the comments
 
we should not prevent new users from downvoting them
 
Once the newbie edits the question properly you can reopen
 
@Dharman What about this question stackoverflow.com/questions/62602994/…
 
@Scratte :)
 
it is unclear to me
 
9:57 PM
@akrun Then you can vote as unclear and even ask here us to review it too.
The format for requests is [tag:cv-pls] REASON <link>
Don't reopen questions unnecessarily. It is very frowned upon and annoys other users, especially when you do it to answer yourself.
 
@Dharman I understand it, but when the same id tags dupe tags and he himself answers similar questions without any issue, that is kind of targetting
 
@akrun It's really not
 
^ +1
 
He may close things he thinks are clear dupes and answer those he thinks are not. You have a gold badge too, and can do the same, including ones that he or others have answered if you believe they missed a dupe.
 
@RyanM Done.
 
10:07 PM
@RyanM Please don't make me look like a fool. I am using R for more than 15 years. I can clearly understand the difference between oil and water
 
I forgot what we use for Quiz questions. Needs more focus?
 
@Scratte Custom: Seeking answer for a Quiz?
 
@RyanM I would also like to think it as a coincidence. But, coincidence can't be a daily occurence
 
@Scratte There's no reason to close quiz questions unless one of the standard reasons applies
 
If it's an active, online quiz, there may be deeper issues, like copyright violation.
 
10:14 PM
@AdrianMole I think it's homework. But I can't prove it
 
Then what Dharman says.
 
But perhaps it's just not a programming question, only we don't have a specific reason for that: stackoverflow.com/questions/62602891/…
 
@Scratte I gave it a custom, copied from the comment.
 
I don't have customs :(
 
OK. Well, you'll need to pressure your government to leave the Schengen zone, then.
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10:20 PM
Not even blatantly fits.. since it does have something to do with programming.
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@RyanM âś“ You are a privileged user.
 
@Makyen Thanks!
@AdrianMole Honestly I don't think it's CS either, it's math (graph theory, specifically).
 
Computer Science (other than being an oxymoron) covers a multitude of sins.
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@akrun I don't doubt your knowledge of R: your tag score easily proves that to me. I, and those in the room with more experience on this network than I have (including at least one moderator), are trying to tell you that you're misunderstanding the dynamics of what's happening on Stack Overflow with regard to how people are voting. It does not appear that I will be able to convince you of this, so I'm going to stop trying now.
@AdrianMole Thank you for nearly making me spit my drink out :D
 
10:28 PM
Hmm. Must try harder: No points for nearly.
 
@akrun I don't think one can close a question for being basic. Is there another reason that fits? One of the official ones?
 
+1 ^ Basic questions should generally be closed as duplicates, if they've already been asked. Otherwise, they're generally fine.
 
It is a very basic question regarding lambda function. So, I was not sure whether it should be closed or not
lambda functions are more general and it is not specific to R
 
It needs to be one of the reasons available in the dialog box so that we know which one to pick
 
10:36 PM
@akrun But I think that each language have their own take on them. So it can't be closed against a java Question even if it's similar.
 
It seems like R's apply function also works differently than applying a lambda in, say, Kotlin
 
@akrun Feel free to repost a request about this question, but with a reason that matches one of the ones in the close-vote dialog. As already mentioned, just because a question is basic isn't a reason to close it. OTOH, a basic question will often have duplicates.
 
@RyanM It's that because the apply in Kotlin is like a functional interface? (No idea if they have that in Kotlin)
 
We could close it as "Needs more focus", but should we?
 
I was not sure if those kind of questions are entertained in SO because one can always ask questions like "How switch function works", etc.
 
10:41 PM
@Scratte In Kotlin, apply calls the specified function block with the value that it is called on as its this value and returns that same this value.
@Scratte so I could write, as I did in a recent answer (provided for context), val foo = LinkedList<Int>().apply { add(1) }
incidentally, that's a good example of a fairly basic question that (surprisingly) did not seem to have been answered already ^
 
@akrun That is likely to be a duplicate :)
@RyanM That looks almost the same as a method reference, but it seems that it's not :)
 
@Scratte For instance, in Java, depending on the details, it may be a dupe of stackoverflow.com/questions/12020048/… or stackoverflow.com/questions/10836055/…, or it may need details or clarity if it's just "how does the switch function work?"
 
@RyanM I would expect such a question to contain a little more than just that sentence :D
 
10:57 PM
@Scratte what, like this maybe? (-: It contains more, but none of it's relevant to the question (and sure enough, it's closed for needing details/clarity)
 
@RyanM What is that text in the blue banner?!? Is that old or new?
 
@Scratte very old, note the date
 
For R 2
 
Searching just for switch in either C++ or Java gets you to this little gem.
 
10:59 PM
@AdrianMole holy moly that score
 
Yeah - That's my Sock-Puppet account. xD
 
oh wow I have heard of that person (in the context of their pi-calculating work)
 
@RyanM ...doesn't compute. And it's for a Question :D
 
@Scratte one of these days I will write up my modest proposal for how the rep system should be reworked, and then it will sit in status-review forever and never be actioned. Or it'll be downvoted mercilessly, who knows.
tl;dr something like: diminishing returns on rep from a single post, capping out around perhaps 500-1k per post, lower rep thresholds for privileges, grandfather anyone who's made >=5 curation actions in the past year (or the average year?) to their current privileges
 
@RyanM The goal is to hit either end. But thanks™ to recent events you have fierce competition.. ;)
 
11:06 PM
@Scratte oh goodness, if I wanted to hit the low end I'd just propose that privileges should be based on the number of thanks you've received, because that's the real metric of usefulness...
 
@RyanM Needs more details but I'm game
 
@RyanM I think that's what they tried to do by capping daily reputation
 
@Scratte oh I know, but it doesn't work at all because SO has been around for over a decade :D
 
@RyanM The only real problem is to find out if it's reasonable to apply without doing it retroactively.. and now, you're probably going to compete on the lower end.
 
@Scratte I'd say yes it should be applied retroactively, but that we should prevent the loss of privileges that are actively being used, because we don't want to lose curators.
 
11:10 PM
@RyanM I think it should not be applied retroactively
 
@Dharman Why not? It doesn't make sense to tell new people that they can't rise like everyone already here has :)
 
@Dharman I'm curious: why? We have people with 30k rep off a single question. How does that accurately reflect the community's opinion of their contributions?
 
1. Technically challenging. 2. Don't take privileges from people who already got them, because they would revolt. 3. It makes sense to prevent mistakes in the future, but what's done is done. They might have gotten all privileges from one question, but maybe they did learn how to use them?
 
Heh.. the 5 to 10 reputation point for Questions was applied retroactively, no? Meaning a few users got an extra 100K rep in one go :D
 
Yeah, and that was already met with backlash from community. Imagine if you decided to take reputation away from us.
 
11:15 PM
@Dharman Yeah, that's why I propose to not take privileges away from anyone currently using them.
it is technically challenging, which is part of why I doubt they'll do it.
but a person who never uses them and never really should have had them in the first place? eh, take 'em away.
 
@Dharman I don't have to. People are already upset if they lose 2 points when a post they edited is deleted :D
 
I'd lose rep under my own proposal, although not a whole lot. But everyone else who has high rep from long-standing posts accumulating votes over time would, too, so we'd all be on the same footing. And it'd more accurately reflect contributions. And we wouldn't lose curators by grandfathering actively used privileges.
 
Would this be closed because it seems to me a basic question and the OP forgot about using group_by
if I have answered it, would have certainly been a downvote
 
Do you mean it's a typo?
 
@Dharman It is more likely to be a dupe than the links you posted for my other question
bcz it is more general group_by
 
11:21 PM
Can you suggest a dupe?
 
I can't say it is a typo bcz I am not sure whether the OP knows group_by or not
@Dharman if this warrants multiple downvotes stackoverflow.com/questions/62599696/… wouldn't the link I showed is a typ
There is no hard work to answer that question as far as I know
 
I am going to watch a movie. I have enough thinking for today.
 
@Dharman Watch a series, they are more successful at keeping your brain shut down :D
 
Ok guys, I will answer as I like. There is no point to hold back when others are also doing the same thing
 
sigh
It might be a dupe, but we don't know the tag. Generally it's expected that a cv-pls for a duplicate has a suggested duplicate (generally, you've already voted when you send a cv-pls unless you're out of votes or can't for some other reason)
and I'm going to metaphorically join Dharman in doing something else for a bit
 
11:40 PM
@RyanM It takes more time to do this and later I find it wouldn't matter that much on a group voting
 
You should both watch Fight Club, and then not talk about it afterward
 
@Machavity are we allowed to talk about not talking about Fight Club?
 
Are we allowed to link to individual scenes on Youtube?
@akrun It doesn't matter if the author knows it. If the Question is good (however basic), it should be answered. Unless there is a duplicate, then it should be closed as such. If however the question would not make any sense to anyone else, like if they just forgot the i in if, then it's should be closed. A question cannot be a typo just because the one posting the question know or doesn't know of another method.
 
@RyanM Only if you bring homemade soap
 
..with the exception of just accidentally using the wrong library (some IDE's will default to one)
 
11:53 PM
@Scratte lookin' at you, java.sql.Date
 
@RyanM Exactly, but I figured it wouldn't make sense to anyone else :)
 
@Scratte Actually, I often go with the broader/fuller version of the "Typo" reason: for questions with a very simple misunderstanding that can be resolved in a comment. I.e. it "...was resolved in a way that is unlikely to be helpful for future readers." YMMV
 
What is YMMV? <-- but it back there :)
 
Your Mileage May Vary. Originated, possibly, on a frequent-flyer website, but now used more generally for, "You may think otherwise."
Or Year 2005?
 
@AdrianMole Yes, surely if one has seen it enough times, it makes sense to keep one.. :)
 
11:59 PM
That's the debatable part. As I've said recently/elsewhere, I've been jumped on from both sides of the argument.
 
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