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5:00 PM
but the concrete interstates are such a pita to drive on. you feel every joint and bump
I wish we had our roads, but your speed limits (just in KM not M)
 
120km normally here
 
well what is normal and what is allowed is totally different.
 
@SomeKittens OMG so good
 
woot ?
 
and contrary to poplular belief, there are only a few highways where it's unlimited
 
5:01 PM
200km normally here
 
@IvoWetzel you guys have the awesome autobaun right?
sounds awesome to drive on
 
on the 400's (our interstates) I drive 130km or 140km and on our highways (normally 90km) everyone goes 110-130
 
130km in France
 
50km over in Canada is road side suspension (they take your license and impound your car right there on the side of the road... you are left to fend for yourself) and it's like a $10 000 fine.
 
@Loktar: yay, actually there is a "suggested" speed limit of 130km/h, but infact very long distances are without any limit. you can go by 300km/h if can handle the traffic :p
 
5:04 PM
anyways, heading out, cya guys :)
 
see ya
 
c ya
time for my format anyways.
be back in a few (hopefully)
 
Is that "funny weird" enough or inapropriate content ?
 
lol
kinda strange... but not offensive if you ask me
 
"Oh, we don't need to sanitize our SQL queries. You need a password to make them anyway."
 
5:09 PM
That's correct if the purpose of the password is actually to allow you to send arbitrary sql queries :P
 
I think their defense is to drive anyone attempting to make a query insane. They need to be submitted in their super-special XML format.
 
5:26 PM

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LOL
 
I don't care how much your wife likes it. If you're using XML, keep it STANDARD XML!
MC Hammer on XML: U can't parse this
 
LOL at this random pic!
 
@Abhishek I refuse
 
yeah its kinda racist
but seriously x_x (XD)
i didnt loled at the joke :P , i loled at the mentallity of the person who made this :P
 
so basically women military members in Pakistan are Ninjas
 
5:35 PM
thats a constructive thought :D
 
lol
 
@Loktar would u send it on the fb page which shared this ?
 
what do you mean?
you want me to share it?
 
nope just comment what u said here on there
 
ooh ok
ill have to sneak
since FB is bad here..
 
5:36 PM
@Abhishek I kinda Like the Israel and Brazilian Army photograph.
 
commented.
 
thanks :-)
 
yeah Isreal seems to have some really beautiful women.
 
@dievardump in that pic .. no wonder russians got a nie intelligence network :$
 
@Loktar I was talking about the army representation the photographe are giving.
 
5:37 PM
lol
I think facebook indeed should stop such groups :-/
 
@dievardump "Do programmers have quiet working conditions? NO ". i wonder why so few companies care about stuff like this
 
@ThiefMaster I don't work if it's quiet
I need noise.
I have to talk or to listen music or to listen to the 10 years old IBM keyboard of my co-worker
 
@dievardump 10 year old IBM keyboard FTW
 
exactly
 
haha
sounds fun to listen to
 
5:48 PM
when yours sounds like "tac" his sounds like " BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM "
 
"khat khat kaaaht khat kaht bam bam "
 
Hey smart Node people. any of you here? ....
:-(
 
I just had the greatest idea for training new employees.
 
Yeah?
 
Say "Always code like the person who will end up maintaining your code is an axe-wielding psychopath who knows where you live"
 
Then have a coworker "accidentally" walk in with an axe.
 
hahaha
 
Look at this, really
 
@dievardump awesome
 
Easy to do, but totally impressive jsdo.it/akm2/iWuH
 
6:06 PM
@rlemon r u the one to blame for d2l website for uw?
 
@rlemon
 
-15 - Unaccept
O.O
 
6:22 PM
html5pattern.com <- for real
 
awesome
 
wow, nice
Support: Firefox 4b7 & Chrome 6 & Opera 9 & Safari 5.0.3
ofc IE doesn't support it ^^
 
lol IPv6 Address ((^|:)([0-9a-fA-F]{0,4})){1,8}$
 
coworkers at their finest.
funny thing is my wife sent me that
shes like "I see what you mean about their incompetence "
 
6:37 PM
anyone here? use Node.js? :-\
 
@dievardump And? It doesn't provide a lot of useful info
@nirth pastie.org/4440252 (I have no idea why there's an extra line break there...)
It's a basic normalization
 
@Nadal no I developed the Grading system and SCORM (Sharable Content Object Reference Model)
correction: I did not develop SCORM I implemented it into our CMS
 
6:55 PM
haha if you developed SCORM I would say you suck.
because SCORM is a huge pile of steaming poo.
 
yes it is. and implementing it was no better.
I spent 18 months developing the grading system. that was a pita
 
yeah we just dont implement it because its so terrible
 
however I can say (keeping in mind i'm 5 years removed) that the grading system we had was leaps and bounds better than anyone elses... like comparing a crop duster to a 747
but in 2007 LMS were like 4 - 5 companies doing it seriously.. the rest were jokes... and even the serious guys sucked. D2L made a really scalable product.
working for them was also a PITA
but it's hard to knock a product if you knew it was good, but the company sucked to work for.
 
@Zirak Because you sometimes get infos from websites (like Urban Dictionnary) and you usually link people to MDN, I, wrongly, thought it could interest you. Sorry for the disturbance.
 
3 hours ago, by SomeKittens
I need to ask for a raise
 
7:00 PM
so do it
 
Just did, got it
 
nice
congratz
 
how could it be
mm
 
thanks!
 
JSON.stringify(o) -> but JSON.parse can't parse it
 
7:01 PM
my boss was confused how long i've worked for him. when he found out it had been a year and 4 months he (without telling me) gave me a raise and made it retroactive to the one year point. ( my last cheque was awesome, the taxes on it were not)
Do other countries have income tax? In ontario Canada it is ~28% of your earnings. (approximate - there are a lot of rules and limits and shit, this is just a general rule-of-thumb)
 
very few countries don't have income tax?
 
idk, it's not something i've ever been curious about
 
Could you explain this sentence: "Inverse operator for usability too, to avoid the if (!(obj instanceof Constructor)) ... awkwardness.", from here: wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:egal
 
...wow... I googled a problem I had before, clicked on the first result. Turned out to be a SO question I answered...
 
haha yeah Ive had that happen twice
friend of mine did too, was my answer related to canvas
 
7:05 PM
!(value in obj) is awkward too
Writing SQL queries in JavaScript? Not the best idea... — wanovak 7 mins ago
^ please shoot yourself
 
How is if (!(obj instanceof Constructor)) avoided with egal?
 
I did that once.... but fucking advancesharp.com came up with my answer! without my name....
I red flagged it out the ass.. even sent SO a email to their support team. They replied with "thanks we'll look into it"
 
@ŠimeVidas it's not
:D
 
But why is that example on that page?
 
that function is all around douchey
who cares about negative and non negative zeros, or NaN's not equaling each other
otherwise it's same as ===
:X
 
7:08 PM
That page is not only about the Object.is function, but also about the is, and isnt operators....
 
well they do the same douchey thing
 
Aha, I think I got it... they include the inverse isnt operator to avoid the if ( !( x is y ) ) awkwardness.
 
what about if( x !== y )
 
They should have noted that example, instead of instanceof...
 
(x is !y )
 
7:09 PM
why invent new syntax for something that doesn't have practical use case
 
@rlemon That's something different.
I like x is y more than x === y, so I'm for this.
 
x === !y is differrnt from x !== y
don't be a douche
soon we will have and
and or
 
if ( str.length isnt 0 )....
 
and it's coffeescript
if( str.length isnt 0 and Why is this valid in CoffeeScript? )
 
7:12 PM
Waitaminute... isnt is an operator in CoffeeScript? WHY THE HELL!?!?
 
if ( typeof x wasnt 'undefined' 1000 ago )
 
coffeescript will soon have an american dialect. if( x aint y ) den ...
 
There has never been a language that has made me cry. Not even Java. But that is simply ridiculous
 
wtf
it's not updating
I had this if life isnt fair then why is this valid in CoffeeScript?
 
NOPE!
 
THAT COMPILES
and it will WORK in JS if we allow this bullshit
 
what license do you guys release your larger javascript projects under?
 
mit.
 
7:17 PM
I usually go with somethingsomethingCreativeCommonssomethingsomething
Because I never bothered to learn about licensing :-P
 
my startup just failed and I'm open sourcing my work.. someone is suggesting CC Non-Commercial but I think it might be pointless since it will be trampled on anyway.. and I'm in no position to enforce these things
 
I randomly look for the first license agreement I can find.
 
lol
 
w/e if they want to steal it they're going to steal it. Even if I do have a license it wont stop them
recently I have been debating using WTFPL
 
if it was server side code I'd feel differently maybe but with js it's too easy
 
7:20 PM
rlemon what's good with Canada, is that Income taxes are taken at source. In France, you have to save money because one time a year Gouvernment say " TAXEESS" and then you have to pay all the taxes they didn't take every month. This system is totally ridiculous.
 
@Radu why? if you have a license agreement it is because presumably you are offering up the source code. this has no bearing on what it does... you're offering it to them with the understanding that they will follow the license agreement.
 
@rlemon I think wtfpl and MIT are pretty close to the same
 
@dievardump not true, businesses just submit them for you. When I freelance I have to calculate my taxes and pay the government at the end.
 
@rlemon yes but when you Freelance.
 
@rlemon, I guess the flip side is that you can tell if your license is being violated since it's clientside lol
 
7:21 PM
Else, all business submit them for you
 
my point is; it is the same system our businesses are just nicer than yours and take this responsibility for themselves... if they wanted they could just make me do it tho
 
lol
define the can man!
 
@Radu only if you a) find it, or b) track it.
 
awardMedals contenders...
that's awardMedals.apply(null, contenders)
 
@rlemon ... remove the periods, and it's valid :-(
 
@rlemon d2l has the worst worst website for uw i have ever dealth with
it is pure sinistry
it wasnt properly QAd which upset me the most
 
@jAndy I work for a living these days.
 
i found sooo many bugs
also @rlemon my dad works in saudi arabia, no taxes at all there lol
 
7:33 PM
during my academic term i wanted to crucify the d2l web devs for not QAing the site properly
 
@rlemon LOL
 
Seriously... WOW coffeescript is retarded
var __indexOf = [].indexOf || function(item) { for (var i = 0, l = this.length; i < l; i++) { if (i in this && this[i] === item) return i; } return -1; };

To(be || !to(be, that === the(question)));

Whether(tis(__indexOf.call(the(mind(to(suffer))), Nobler) >= 0));

The(Slings && Arrows in outrageous(Fortune, Or(to(take(Arms(against(a(Sea in troubles, And(By(opposing(end(them, to(die, to(sleep))))))))))))));

No(more.and(By(a(sleep, to(say(we(end)))))));

The(heart - ache && the(thousand(Natural(shocks))));
Shakespeare would be turning in his grave!
 
lol
 
I feel as though, when I die, I should be buried on a rotisserie. So I can literally turn in the grave.
 
and be kept warm and tasty!
 
7:35 PM
mhmmm i like rostissierie chicken
hopefully though ur rostisserie grave isnt in china or the only things remaining of u will be ur bones
 
will make the zombie apocalypse start 3 minutes later because you will be the first morsel they'd want to eat. all crispy and golden brown.
 
/me is ready for the zombies
ready to curl up and pee myself in fright.
 
I just find the first fat person around me and kick him in the knees... that has got to give me at least a half hour advantage
 
Quick question guys.
 
ever watch the walking dead @rlemon?
 
7:37 PM
Quick answer: NO
 
theres an episode where a fatman is shot in the leg so another can get away.
 
@Loktar skimmed an episode on netflix
 
made me chuckle.
 
I have an unordered list that, when clicked it should run a function. But it seems that onclick of the ul isn't working for me.
 
lol wasn't that one. but glad to know my theory on how to survive the Zombie apocalypse was valid
@AndréSilva because you're clicking on the li's or possibly their direct child
1) read up on event bubbling
2) add the click event to the li's
 
7:38 PM
It is triggering the ul onclick
But it says that the reference is not defined
 
@AndréSilva jsfiddle?
 
Even though I can execute from the console.
 
... something has corrupted a bunch of my files.
 
Ok let me build it.
 
ok solution is ONLY one of the two: I expect no more discussion - 1) you read the event.targetElement and check it is a li... 2) you attach the click event handler to the li's themselves.
 
7:39 PM
@RyanKinal maybe coffescript decided all of the files were javascript functions.
coffeescript malware dude.
 
Git FTW
 
Or, it could have been this mp3 I downloaded off of my company's web server earlier.
The one that triggered my virus scan
 
two redundant backups that run nightly too two 1TB external drives which are identical FT(paranoid)W
 
(Not my startup... the company that actually pays me)
 
@Abhishek I still haven't gotten around to making it multi-key, but I did make a working cartesian to polar converter :D
 
7:41 PM
These are actually config files for installed programs. This could be trouble.
sigh
 
that, on top of my polar to cartesian, I can make it way more complex now :)
 
:runs virus scan:
 
FML, the worst part about a fresh install. :<
 
7:42 PM
Indeed. Indeed.
I'm going to reboot to safe mode, start a scan, and then go home.
Later all
 
Good luck @RyanKinal
 
see ya
 
@AndréSilva what exactly does that fiddle do?
 
It should alert all child lists from the list I cilcked.
 
@AndréSilva dude, like I said yesterday
NO LIBRARY AND NOWRAP BODY
 
7:44 PM
xD
 
Fuck. --'
 
^
 
Erm. But the error stays the same on my code.
How am I suppose to fix that on my code ._.
 
it also seems to tell me the object, if that's not what you are going for
 
what is the error?
 
7:45 PM
Uncaught ReferenceError: AbreTreeView is not defined
It is defined.
 
1 min ago, by rlemon
NO LIBRARY AND NOWRAP BODY
FFS NOT IN THAT CONTEXT
open my damn fiddle and run it
Y U NO LISTEN TO THE WORDS I TYPE
 
Yeah great, the fiddle is working
 
xD
 
> NOWRAP BODY
do you understand what that means?
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
7:46 PM
I purposly installed a screen reader to listen to @rlemon words.
 
don't put your script tags in the head
 
@rlemon Mainly because they're typed words and I don't have text-to-speech
 
why doesn't jsfiddle have that as the default?
I should tweet him on that
 
YES
 
7:46 PM
The js file that this function is outside head tag.
 
<body>
.... you code
<script>
... your script
</script>
</body>
 
TWITTER WILL SOLVE ANYTHING
 
the most ridiculously annoying feature of jsfiddle is the default to mootools
it gets me multiple times a day
not only is it a shitty library but it overwrites many built-ins
 
(...)
    </div>
    </form>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="../Scripts/Home/Home.js"></script>
</body>
(...)
 
@Tgwizman multi key
wait a second
 
7:47 PM
@AndréSilva it does not work in the fiddle because of how the script is included. I presume that is the same for your local script.
 
so you cannot even do anything until you have changed to no-library
 
are you sure that is the right directory
 
Yeah, all my other functions inside this file works.
 
my guess is ../Scripts/Home/Home.js is not correct.
 
Just this one returns an error.
 
7:48 PM
well with what you have posted us it is impossible to tell.
 
@Esailija overwrites many built-ins ?
 
your fiddle was erroring because the function was defined inside the scope of another block which was not visible globally.
 
yeah
 
@Tgwizman scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1343325#p1343325 that post should do the job for u , it starts with a rant about jQuery but follows a somewhat idea for multikey
 
"".constructor
 
7:49 PM
Ah. Ok seeing like that. Yes it change the prototype.
 
Loktar owns no one :(
 
I know how to do multikey already
I just couldn't be bothered to implement it
I'll get on that now
 
is that you @Abhishek saying that btw
I assume so
 
@rlemon Weird thing. My other modal functions I have on that file works perfectly. But with your answer I'll look up better. Thanks btw.
 
yeap :P
cause 30 times on that forums i have seen
 
7:50 PM
I love when you say "hard, rock hard!"
 
oh you are learning javascript , use jQuery!
 
> which shouldn't exist it make stuff go hard , rock hard
lol made me laugh a bit
 
:D made me laugh aswell :$
but i need to scare them off :$
 
yeah for sure
 
they are mostly 5 - 16 year old kids
 
7:51 PM
ooh scratch the programming language eh?
I didnt realize thats what the forums were for
 
Yeah!
@Loktar that forum has some really talented ones too
i mean some are coding in Squeak VM and morphing scratch ( these are 13 - 14 year old )
 
thats awesome
 
:P
 
I used to be into the blitz community, that also had some really talented devs
sometimes its just fun to work in languages like that
 
^_^
i made the websites first ever 3d fps lol
 
7:54 PM
nice
 
// then removed it because the code was embarrasing XD
 
hey guys is there a shortcut key in sts to go to a definition of a javascript function
sts = spring tool source
SrpingSource tool suite*
 
@Esailija haha thats great
 
lol
See you guys tomorrow
good night
 
7:58 PM
see ya
 
FFS a cat hair in the optical mouse will totally fuck with you for like a half hour till you happen to turn it on the right angle to see it!
@ProgrammerForNow stupidToolKit.MDN(function);
^ just a guess
 

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