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12:01 PM
He just uses C # as C ++
 
Novice shalt not apply design patterns
 
My systme is the most excellent system in the world thank you very much
 
Or that's what the owners of the company that bought us are thinking anyway
 
Captain OS 1.1
 
12:02 PM
Jack, why is the rum gone?
 
....Come Again?
 
ServiceLocator pattern is more than enough for most cases
Just kidding
 
VB6 code -> C#. It had a Joker class to mirror the implicit conversions between the VB6 types. You could wrap an Object into Jokerand continue work like it was VB. DateTime myDate = DateTime.Now; myDate + 1 would convert to myDate.AddDays(1)...
 
Beautiful splash screen
What's wrong with Microsoft today?
 
uh
Are you on crack
The 2019 one looks miles better than the old one
 
12:11 PM
It is sooooooooooo f***ing ugly!!!
 
omg that old VB box art
brings me back to middle school when teachers were using old software
 
mr5
DK is backwards
Seems like a WinForm or C developer
 
the grainy quality of the first pic looks like something out of the old Fallout
 
Welcome to low cololr depth gifs
 
Windows XP UI is easier to nagivate than Windows 10
 
12:18 PM
I would possibly agree with that
The oversimplified UIs make me sad
 
new one is def better
 
But that's kinda why I like things like VisualStudio with their somewhat unintuiive UIs
 
mr5
That
 
I want the Luna theme back
 
mr5
They are trying to design it like Apple did
 
12:20 PM
I just hate things with excess padding
 
mr5
And they're failing everytime
 
I also wish this became a thing
whoa now Microsoft did the flat design first
 
I wish that too, such a disappointment...
 
if anything, Apple these days is copying Microsoft
 
12:20 PM
Where is the Longhorn?
 
it was scrapped and turned into Vista
 
The original longhorn branch was completely fucked
 
mr5
At least, VS for Mac UI is very intuitive unlike the cluttered Windows version
 
There's a build floating around of the original one and it was so bad
@mr5 That's because it's xamarin studio wearing a new namebadge
 
yea cause the mac actually has a menu bar on top
 
12:21 PM
I used to install Longhorn beta on my PC
 
I once tried to install the longhorn beta onto VirtualBox, but it didn't work
 
Build 4xxx-5xxx
But so buggy
 
I've got it on my laptop in a vm hold on
 
I don't doubt it was buggy, but damn it coulda been something
the big problem with it is that they tried to do too much when longhorn was just meant to be a small step toward 7
 
Vista got a bunch of stuff 7 was meant to debut
Like DWM
 
12:23 PM
Vista has Ballmer's overexcitedness smeared all over it
 
They was trying to push .NET during that time
 
With success
 
And WinFS
Avalon -> WPF
 
Not so much with Winfs
 
I'll appreciate Vista for pushing that software certification
people were bitching about it, UAC, and compatibility, but that kind of stuff was absolutely necessary
 
12:26 PM
But most UAC issues improved in Windows 7
 
UAC isn't even a bad thing
The best part about it though is fairly unappreciated
 
It is too much for a user that used to Windows XP
 
The UAC prompt runs in a completely different winlogon session, I think they call it "Secure desktop"
And it's restricted to fuck to stop any other applications drawing over it
 
And their WDM Aero hype
 
I just wish non-aero Windows Vista/7 didn't look so fugly
 
12:27 PM
Aero was good. Especially on 7
I just really liked the blur effect
 
They are partially gone in Windows 8
And now...
 
now they back
 
DWM is more powerful than ever though
Because it's required since windows 8, and done in software if your graphics drivers don't support it in hardware
Which is why windows 8+ runs so spectacularly badly until graphics drivers are installed
But the wierd way that window painting used to work is way better noiw
 
Because of window compositing
 
I still wish we got widgets
 
12:30 PM
Exactly. Applications draw themslces to the buffer and only have to worry about themselves
 
Hi people
o/
 
but I guess live tiles are a nice substitute
 
Unlike before when you moved a window and basically everything would have to redraw
 
Just like how X11 works without XGL
 
mr5
Is it true that there's a dedicated frame buffer for drawing graphics that are DRM protected?
 
12:32 PM
Wietlol asked me to add James (my bot) here. Works very similar to how Cap did and all the learned commands have been added. Currently, James works in the JavaScript room and the Android room.
 
Just like to confirm the rest of the room wants me to add him?
 
If wiet asked then it's probably not a good plan
Can we come play with him for a lil bit and see
Last time Wiet did something with a bot he nearly killed chtt
 
Sure. Feel free to play with him in sandbox or his own room:

Test My Bot

A room for discussing and asking questions about SO/SE bot cre...
Also its open source and runs on Node.js. So feel free to create issues and PR's as needed.
 
I'm thinking to implement a Web UI framework that would work similar to X Window System
 
12:35 PM
@JBis Bot wr with Jack!
 
What does jack do?
 
Jack, black
 
Jack, I love you
 
....Come Again?
 
Jack, whodagoodboi
 
I don't understand mate
 
12:37 PM
crud
 
Is it Open source?
 
@CaptainSquirrel kieeraaaan
We need you assitance
also jack isn't listning in sandbox
 
mr5
Jack, ignore
 
....Come Again?
 
@JBis Should be
 
mr5
12:38 PM
Jack, act dumb
Jack, kickurself
 
....Come Again?
 
mr5
I still prefer nyc's bot
 
Jack drank all the rum again
 
mr5
!~>1+1
 
now hes out of his mind
 
12:39 PM
!=>2
 
My bot still not done yet...
 
i prefer her bot too
because
 
You can eval and do math on mine too. But eval only in JS so may not be useful for you guys.
 
!~shiba
 
12:39 PM
:o
 
mr5
!~>while(true);
 
first of all is this even a shiba?
 
-!!>SandBox: Unable to complete invocation by given 5 seconds
 
and why is it an alcoholic
 
It seems like you guys got two bots and don't want a third. Ping me if y'all change your mind :)
 
12:40 PM
@mr5 sCREW YOU1
J, commands
 
mr5
@JBis does your bot have hangman pre installed?
 
@mr5 No, but it could. I didn't include it because the Android people said it was bad.
 
mr5
I see some bot in other chat that has that
 
@JBis there used to be a bot
its name was caprica six...
:'(
 
12:42 PM
Yes, I know. James replaced Cap in JS. It does almost everything Cap did but better 😎
 
mr5
@Squirrelintraining PatrickBot > Jack
 
replaced ?!?
cap cant be replaced
:o
i need to check that bot out...
 
Cap's legacy can't be replaced but her features can. RIP Cap!
4
 
Y'all it's cool
He(mr5)'s been asking for it!
 
@Hans1984 Go for it, link for room above.
 
12:44 PM
@JBis RiP Cap
 
mr5
@Squirrelintraining what did I ask?
 
Is it possible to have "image link" in chat?
I mean if it is supported with no workarounds
 
@mr5 "You ask for it" is a phrase in english.
It means sth like provoking somebody on purpose.
 
Image as hyperlink instead of text
 
holy shit why did I need to reset the browser to type in this box
@mr5 was trying to say I still prefer Patrick ;~;
@CaptainObvious what was that Longhorn setup you said you had?
 
1:00 PM
@Wietlol i actually managed to debug it to a different part of the app
which kinda makes more sense
@JBis for reference i built Jack
And he's not very good
 
wheres the source?
 
on my devops
 
You could always take my source and create your own bot if you want.
 
I keep meaning to put him to github but the code isn't very good and @CaptainObvious keeps shaming me for it
But this bot is written in c#!
 
Good code and C# is an oxymoron
 
1:02 PM
How do I abstract out a method into a service that has different methods signatures in different classes? Since its the same method per se but I want to prevent duplicate code.
 
There's also the fact that i haven't touched the codebase in a while
so half of his commands are broken
 
@JBis woah woah woah, time out, you saying C# is a bad language?
 
I mean, no one has explicitly said its Good
 
but it is quite good
it has funny quirks but what languages dont?
 
Haskell, as i'm sure @Kendall Frey would attest to
if he were here :(
 
1:07 PM
@Harry I'm just joking. I don't know C#. I want to learn it tho. Seems good to know.
 
yeah well, fuck haskell
no personality
 
@JBis is that because you need glasses?
Because you can't c#?
huehuehue
 
I knew a guy in college who didn't like c# but he didn't really explain why
I can tell you I loathe Java, tho
 
@CaptainSquirrel flagged
 
Yeah but if you don't hate java, there's something wrong with you
8
Take @Wietlol for example
 
1:09 PM
there is a LOT wrong with our wiet
 
Too much C# is bad for your health
 
we're programmers
our job is bad for our health
 
How to become a healthy programmer?
 
Yell "I quit" really loud
 
1:13 PM
How to be a healthy programmer
don't
 
Why not?
 
You cant be healthy and programmer at the same time?
 
its not possible
 
@CaptainSquirrel no
but theres A LOT wrong with squirrels
 
1:17 PM
I'm going to add him here. He won't talk unless talked to. Allow you guys to test him out.
 
Don't do it as your career
 
Thinking seems a disease for human race
 
Choose a different job
Do it in your spare time
No stress
 
@DKDhilip get a standing desk
 
Sounds good?
 
1:17 PM
and go to the gym before going to work
 
the GYM?!
 
I dont get stressed btw, I get fired If I should
 
Who do you think i am, a person who isn't fat?
 
and don't drink caffeine if you're gonna go to bed in 8 hours
 
tbf i go to the gym a lot
 
1:18 PM
 
we're playing football at work tonight
 
"and the tree was happy."
…Shel Silverstein was a communist
 
To think, 4+ years in and i still barely know what i'm doing
 
@CaptainSquirrel I have 4 years old career and I completely agree with you
 
1:19 PM
Standing desk doesn't solve every problem
 
I think it'll be 5 soon but
i'm not sure
Can't remember when the clock ticks over
 
I am not sure why they pay me any money
 
@DKDhilip f i n e t h e n d r i n k w a t e r , t o o
 
Sometimes it feels like a charity
 
Jack, water
 
1:20 PM
I don't understand mate
 
I'm amazed that people have offered me jobs tbh
 
I ll apply google, If they want to pay me too lmao
@CaptainSquirrel +
 
Is Coca-Cola considered water?
 
It has water in it
 
Flavoured Water
 
1:21 PM
Aug 20 '19 at 15:50, by rlemon
drink water
 
not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but can anyone explain why setting a Html.DropDownListFor to readonly can still be edited?
 
It'll be five years in august
 
I've learned the command water
 
@JackSparrow So you are water a bender?
 
1:22 PM
I don't understand mate
 
I have never heard of that method..
 
@WhatsThePoint Can you explain a little more?
Do you mean when the page gets rendered?
 
I was once asked in high school what my superpower would be if I had one, and I said firebending
so the teacher's like "so you'll get burnt"
 
If i could have any superpower, I'd like to control carbon
control carbon, you can control anything
 
Girl: I feel sick
Boy: Drink more water
 
1:23 PM
@CaptainSquirrel prntscr.com/qr9vha this is a readonly dropdownlistfor, the values can still be edited and when i click save the changed value is passed
 
pregnant wife: I want frozen yogurt!!
husband: -gets yogurt branded with Disney's Frozen-
 
ohh i see
You need to make it disabled
BUT
 
i found this question stackoverflow.com/questions/1636103/… which tells me to use disabled, but i cant find out why readonly isnt, well read only
 
Because readonly isn't really used for dropdown lists
technically it is, but also isn't
if you use disabled however, you'll need to implement a way to send the value of the dropdownlist
 
|| echo No need to fear, James is here!
 
1:25 PM
well if it doesnt work, whats the point in it being able to be set?
 
No need to fear, James is here!
 
as disabled fields don't get sent on form submission
unless you are using ajax or something
@WhatsThePoint You could ask that question about 99% of web tech
 
Ping me if something goes wrong or you want him to leave. RO's can disable him but that is site wide.
 
You really shouldn't have told us that
lmao
 
oopsies
 
1:30 PM
@CaptainSquirrel would a hiddenfor work?
 
I don't see why not
BUT
if you will ever make that control usable again, you'd need to update the value of the hiddenfor
And make sure that they don't share the same name
As that's how you end up with the incorrect value being sent back
 
@Html.DropDownListFor(model => model.SelectedType, new SelectList(Model.CallTypes, "Key", "Value", Model.SelectedType), new { @class = "form-control", disabled = "disabled" })
@Html.HiddenFor(model => model.SelectedType)
so this should work?
theyll never be a reason to not make these dropdowns readonly as theyre fields that customers arent supposed to edit
ok the hidden for works, guess i have to change every drop down list now
 
1:52 PM
I mean if you want to full deep dive
the hiddenfor can Technically have its value changed
so if you wanted to ensure that it couldn't be changed when the form is submitted, you could just get its value when the controller recieves the form request
get rid of the hiddenfor all together
Because someone could still open dev tools and change it should they want to that much
 

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