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7:00 PM
I also got a feeling R15 is a place you can never actually leave
unless ofc that void
 
You're here forever
 
@MwBakker that sounds like a horror movie
 
yeah Tim will boot Zucc back up if you try to leave
 
foreeeeeever~~~
 
So now that we chilled with spanish and stuff, I wanna say sorry if I offended ya
 
7:02 PM
Forever and ever we never will part
 
You can't say forever without saying R15
 
which editor you guys use for git ? atom , sublime, notepad++?
vim?
 
vscode is cool
 
bash
 
7:10 PM
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I like to make memes
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@Raghav
 
what?
 
grriggy boy
you wanna reupload that to SO.imgur
so my eyes can view it
 
7:16 PM
xD
 
Why cannot you see it?
 
imgflip blocked by my web filter
 
But but that'd be double post man
 
you can mail me a postcard of the meme to : third igloo on the left, Canada
Should be enough information for the postal service to get me it
 
check it out on the phone
 
7:21 PM
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T^T
D:
 
lol
 
hahaha omg
 
@grrigore xD
 
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@grrigore Star as interesting
 
lol
 
7:28 PM
LOL
 
meh command lines
 
what do you need CF?
 
meh cold fires
 
git extension is a decent gui git thing
if you're command line adverse
 
7:32 PM
sourcetree, tortoisegit, gitkraken
 
1 message moved to Trash can
 
If you're command line adverse you should take a good, hard look at yourself and try to figure out where you went wrong in lfie
 
lmao, Raghav
 
was that nsfw?
 
you tricked me into opening vim
 
7:35 PM
Welcome to the good life, W0MP3R
 
now you need a new pc womp
you cannot quit that
 
i'm still trying to get out
 
It can be addictive, yes
 
PSA: Before posting anything somewhat sexual, think to yourself, "Is this professional and should I post it here?". The answer is (almost) always "NO"
 
If you have to ask, you probably shouldn't
 
That was from Facebook, Facebook is professional. (got it)
 
If you didn't ask and still shouldn't have, join bB in the corner
 
@grrigore That's debatable. Probably. But certainly not necessary good for this chat
 
Freedom of speech!
 
@CarlAnderson Is that a new thing? I don't remember it being a thing for me as of late last year
As in, I never had an issue with double space->.
 
7:38 PM
there he is
 
@codeMagic "Would Carl get in trouble if his boss walked up and randomly read the chat currently up on the screen?" FTFY
That's really the bar here
 
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@CarlAnderson Useless mod.
 
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>:|
 
:O
 
Quick, post photoshopped job offers for Carl from fishing regulatory bodies
 
7:39 PM
I've never met your boss so I think the general question of needing to ask means "no" is a pretty good bar :P
 
lmao
 
Seriously, stop being childish, we're at an age where these jokes make no sense. That's elementary school level jokes
 
yeah Carl's boss might be a trump supporter so we really can't know
 
I can't even believe we're having this conversation
 
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7:39 PM
It gets very annoying
 
bb we need a nsfw room
 
bb has a discord
 
Before you ask, BB, if my kids give a response like that to something serious I tell them is not ok, they get slapped
 
you slap your kids?
wtf is wrong with you
 
yes, when they act like you, bet your ass I do
 
7:40 PM
@ColdFire link pls
 
You should read up on some psychology articles on abusing children
 
oh i thought this room was opened to everyone
 
Maybe "smack their mouth" is better for you? Either way, they get in trouble
 
^
 
7:41 PM
It's not abuse, it's discipline. There's a big difference
 
I've just got owned
a slap a day keeps the bad behaviour away xD
 
Alright let me rephrase this, you should read up on why physically hitting your child is bad for their development
 
Well, you all be good before Mehdi and Carl ban the entire write list, I'm gonna go fail a database exam in the meantime
 
Good luck
 
@codeMagic I know some guy who thought the same about concentration
 
7:43 PM
that's been happening for the entire history and I think children developed pretty good (at least compared to now)
 
Yeah so has slavery, guy
 
Lmao this convo
 
don't try to mix apple and oranges
 
Your general point is just wrong
 
don't think it is
 
7:44 PM
If something has been proven to be wrong, for psychological development, and you keep doing it. That makes you a bad parent (if you know the effects)
 
just imagine bb's kids
 
@codeMagic says the guy who's profipic in the distance looks like an alien stool
 
What if the kid won't understand, bb?
 
kids these days are hard to control, so I can understand
 
I am not going to continue with the conversation but all I am stating is how this discipline was used in history and how the children turned out to be
 
7:45 PM
All I'm saying is that physically hitting your child is bad for their development. If you want to keep doing it and fuck them up, go ahead
 
@ballBreaker I'm not discussing my parenting techniques with you. The point is to not antagonize when something is removed from the chat by a RO. It's just common sense
 
I grew up with some correctional slaps
 
Maybe you guys give a different meaning to slap
 
@Nero if you want to use that as a justification for either you hitting your kids now, or so that you can justify that what your parents did to you as a kid. That's fine, but you're doing yourself and future generations a disservice.
 
7:47 PM
is this guy for real?
 
If it's proven that smoking cigarettes cause cancer, but "eh my parents didn't get cancer, I'll be fine"
it's the same argument
 
stop messaging me
 
Exactly, Dave. Anyway, this is distracting from the actual point I was making
 
Epstein didn't kill himself
3
 
code magic literally said he slaps his kids
hence my points
I'm ready to move on
 
7:50 PM
70/100 restored
 
xD
 
@MwBakker no picking on cM
 
is using vieewpager for listview a good idea instead of using next/prev list?
and re-populating the listview with new records
 
@DaveS he really didn't, did he
how can they do such a sloppy job on Epstein, now even the non-tinfoiled think the goverment is up to something
 
7:53 PM
@Nero Nope, use pagination for that
 
no sane person seriously believes the suicide story with all the freak "coincidences" surrounding his death
 
I think that also depends on the design
 
If he did that would be the most conveniently coincidental death in history
 
exactly, but how can they have done it so stupidly
 
because the current state of us politics is beyond reason and facts
 
7:54 PM
hmm
true
 
I mean this would get smelly for everyone, there are clever people on such jobs ruling stuff, how they...
 
trump says something the right gets in line and they stonewall any discussion otherwise
 
Can someone give some context on Epstein?
 
and I don't think the mainstream democrats cares in this case either
 
the odd thing about the listview is that I only have API request call for next page (if one exist); therefore, I am unable to extend my pagination above a single page
 
the same rule applies for the previous page
 
@grrigore Epstein was a convicted pedophile, but a rich one with connections that could possibly harm important people.
 
Thanks guys
 
convicted* Mw
 
at least, this was the thought. Now his weird 'suicide' made people convince the story to be true
 
7:55 PM
Now I got it
 
sounds like a long story
 
That was some long context Dave xD
 
yes but the moral is short: important person doing very wrong things but also had connections with other important people who did not want to be included in the story
not saying all other could be pedophiles too, but I can understand if you find out your friend is one you rather stay out of his light
 
Do we ultimately care if it was suicide or not or is it just something to talk about?
 
yes because now he can't testify to the level of involvement if any of major players in US politics
and it seems more likely than not it wasn't a suicide
 
7:58 PM
or even go as far as killing your old friend just to prevent him saying "but I know you, you gotta... whatever"
 
Oh, I guess I missed where that was a thing
 
He's from Hoogeveen
Daily business over there
 
@codeMagic it's a thing because usually it was just the tinfoiled ones thinking conspiracy. Now it no longer is
 
Grrr
 
7:59 PM
what?
 
@TimCastelijns xD
 
I believed you Dave
 
What about Michael Jackson?
 
rich people do rich drugs
 
just giving you the latest developments
 
8:00 PM
Mw, my point was do we care how he died since he was a chester. But Dave has shed new light on that
 
that kill you in a rich way
 
I'm talking with paypal about security concerns and basically their response is that security isn't important in a casual setting so instead i might need to pay extra for basic security
like what?
Their entire payment confirmation system seems to have a fundamental security misdesign
 
now I'm going to listen to thrift shop
 
the other implication of a homicide is that if you're guilty enough to be placed in federal custody and those in power think you could take them down, they won't hesitate to end you
 
and i can't understand why i am the first one to identify this, unless i a missing something that would mitigate the issue
 
8:02 PM
what security issue JBis?
 
True, Dave, it's also strange to suicide at that point
I mean why would he do it
 
@DaveS Basically the client tells paypal the price of an item instead of the server
 
they took him off suicide watch when he was "suicidal" the cameras "broke" and the guards "forgot to check him"
and he was one of the highest profile inmates in federal custody
 
sounds like a movie
 
and they dropped all those balls and we're just supposed to say "oops guess it was just a mistake"
@JBis isn't the client though, the client's own server?
 
8:04 PM
unfortunately, there are a lot of things like that happening these days
 
until your country takes it to the streets nothing is going to happen and everyone is too divided to care
so now Jeffrey Epstein will be immortalized as a meme instead
 
I doubt transactions are being initiated on the front end
 
Any one here into OCR?
 
memes are the new form of political protest bb
 
@DaveS What? I mean the customer tells paypal the price of the item
 
8:05 PM
wouldn't the point of the paypal sdk be for the server to use paypal what the transaction is? why would you use the sdk on the front end side?
 
Like if Bob is gonna buy something off my site, Bob tells paypal the price
 
no that's not how it works JBis, what Dave said basically, check Stripe's developer flow if you wanna understand how it works
 
isn't that just how you implemented it?
Bob should be telling your server what he wants to buy and your server should be telling paypal the price
 
exactly
 
8:07 PM
But thats not how it seems paypal has implemented it
 
lol bb
 
can you elaborate and show me some example code?
it sounds highly unlikely knowing what I do about ecommerce and the widespread usage of paypal
sounds more likely you're missing something
 
@DaveS I agree, but paypal support seems unable to tell me what that is
 
can you link the docs to what you're talking about?
 
I'm pulling it up one sec
 
8:09 PM
good night everyone~~
Cya tomorrow :3
 
good night womp
 
@ballBreaker /pol/ack right there
 
later womper
 
> Your server must then validate the notification to ensure that it is legitimate. For details, see the Instant Payment Notification Guide.
 
8:12 PM
Yes, i do that
 
so at that point you can cancel/reverse the transaction
I assume negative balances are validated
so people could send you less money but you don't need to ship them anything
it's not really a security issue as much as a convenience option
if you want to do it "right" you use the node.js or other server side sdk and have your server create the transactions
so either your server initiates the transaction or it validates a client side transaction
either way you have full control
 
One sec..
 
> Verify that the payment amount in an IPN matches the price you intend to charge. If you do not encrypt your button code, it's possible for someone to capture a button-click message and change the price it contains. If you don't check the price in an IPN against the real price, you could accept a lower payment than you want.
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wow
 
that one is good
 
8:20 PM
that escalated quickly
 
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@DaveS I dropped coffee.
 
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cause of you
 
@DaveS popular in... Idaho...
 
the midwest doesn't give a f
 
8:25 PM
lol
 
all the meme makers live in a meme community in idaho clearly
we are the meme makers, the dreamers of dreams
 
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@ballBreaker and have community meetings
 
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like a South Park school assembly
 
rabble rabble rabble
 
@CarlAnderson changes based on the period, if you go to 7 days the whole US has it
smart move
 
8:28 PM
My imagination is liking the joke
 
@DaveS So the idea is that you refund the payment if it isn't the correct amount?
fine
well i currently have it implemented in a similar way
Maybe the SDK fixes the "client provides the price" idea
 
@JBis yes the server side sdk initiates the transaction itself
 
@DaveS but mostly in places like... Alaska, North Dakota, West Virginia.... you know, liberal hotbeds.
 
If liberals are on hotbeds are conservatives on water beds?
 
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Mapbox anyone?
 
8:34 PM
I'm hoping my dad jokes improve when I become a dad
 
I'll take a mapbox.. are you giving them away for free?
 
It should really work like this: User sends request containing item they want. You send price to paypal. PayPal gives you a token. You give token to client and forward them to paypal with that toekn. Paypal checks the amount associated with the token. Once the payment is made, paypal sends a notification that payment has been received for that token.
I am currently using PHP, gonna switch over to node soon.
 
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@CarlAnderson Who would win: 5 Mapbox or 1 Magma
 
@ballBreaker the eyerolls as immediate feedback really help you know when you're upping your game.
@OakDev Magma
well, I guess if it's 5 then Mapbox
 
the only difference is JBis is sending the token back to the client and involving them at all is redundant and unecessary
they just send you their CC info over HTTPS with the item they want, you validate and send it to paypal, transaction complete
 
8:38 PM
@ballBreaker haha
 
as long as you don't store any of that data permanently and leave it free to be deallocated it's fine
 
user11867329
@CarlAnderson Try 1 billion electric eels
 
just store the invoice # or whatever
 
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vs 1 magma
 
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8:39 PM
k
 
@ballBreaker everything about you will improve, dads are super heros
good ones anyway
 
but will my villainy also improve?
 
@DaveS If my server is compromised, than its an issue. If we never even see the cc info than its a non issue.
 
how far is a light-year?
 
if your server is compromised clients have CC protections to roll back charges
 
8:43 PM
@grrigore 180,000 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 365.25 miles
fine
i need to look into the sdk more
but it does piss me off a bit that you had to tell me that and paypal couldn't
they tried to sell me on paypal pro
 
it's common knowledge in the ecommerce field
customer support isn't in a position to teach students
 
@DaveS what is
 
UCL is on
 
the fundamentals of running transactions and how to validate them and their security concerns
if you really never want to touch the CC look at Stripe
there's a reason they are winning out vs paypal
it works as you describe
 
I'll look into it
 
8:47 PM
@grrigore its like 9.5 trillion kilometres or something
 
The current way i do it is as you suggest but its stupid imo
i check to make sure the amount is the same
 
smart boy bb
 
Stripe works by setting up the user with their own customer and they have a payment method which you never collect
then you invoice their customer
the client side sdk sends the payment method directly to stripe
 
9:04 PM
Hey @Dave , you got any chill music I can snag from you?
 
any of Lane8 Mixtapes
also these
a good 20+ hours between those two
 
hmm okay, listened to most of it but I'll find somethin new been a while since I listened to majestic
 
there's also lofi stations
search chillwave
let me check our slack music channel
 
coolcool :)
I've been stuck in a spotify recommendation loop for a while and since I've been checking so much of their recommendations out, it's just all the same shit
Got this goin' now
 
9:09 PM
noice thanks I'll save it for a day I have more energy
or is it live?
 
it's a recording of a live performance
similar to Yu Su
these are all uptempo lol
 
here we go @ballBreaker soundcloud.com/dirtwire/9-deep-playa
only 5 mins though
 
nice, thanks guys
 
9:13 PM
that's what I'm going to listen to right now
 
@DaveS before that, check this short one youtube.com/watch?v=9RMHHwJ9Eqk :D
 
ok ok
 
checkout claptone or smth
 
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Yo wth's the difference with a laptop and a notebook
 
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Is like like European football umpires just kindda guessing how many minutes should be added
 
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9:18 PM
Like oh this one looks like a notebook
 
what in the hell
> european football umpire
 
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umpires
 
Aren't umpires exclusive to baseball?
 
!cat
 
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M-Maybe?
 
9:19 PM
I think the main difference though, to answer your question, is size
 
I have a real deep one for you bb, you'll either love it or hate it
 
that's what she said
3
:'(
 
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So someone decided like, oh, these are not laptops anymore
 
my poor soul
 
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9:21 PM
Yo thats amazing
 
oh, I love this album
good suggestion
 
I listened to this so many times winding down to sleep in college
wore tracks in the disc just from playing it so many times
 
I saw broken social scene's reuniting concert in person, and the show was a total surprise (someone at a festival cancelled so they got these guys to play very last minute), it was just pure ecstacy
 
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So... did someone just said "Oh, those are not laptops anymore" like they did with Pluto?
 
9:22 PM
oh man I never got to see them live
 
They're back together now!
 
they never come to AZ
 
Ahhhhhhhhh
 
@ballBreaker you have a very specific set of things that trigger you XD
 
not a total surprise haha I guess, being a toronto band
 
9:23 PM
closest I got was coachella but I skipped that year
yeah
 
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Ah ok
 
@MehdiB. it's mostly just stupidity tbh, but you're also not wrong at all hahaha
 
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thx
 
@MehdiB. looool
@ballBreaker that's what she said
 
anyone have any good articles relating for data privacy? Need some for school project
 
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@JBis More specifically?
 
@DaveS I'll just have to bring them with me on my future arizona trip!
 
sounds good
 
@OakDev GDPR, Abuse of data collection (facebook scandal), etc.
 
tell them they have a decade + long fan whose never got to see them live
 
9:27 PM
they seem like super nice people lmao that miiight just work
it's too bad there's like 10 of them, might be hard to schedule
 
lol yeah
 
9:55 PM
that was a relaxing end of evening ^
 
10:37 PM
the serie Aquarius on netflix is pretty special
 

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