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5:16 PM
o/ all
 
posted on October 21, 2019 by Android Developers

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5:32 PM
@DaveS o/
 
@TaseerAhmad did you solved the firebase thing?
 
o/
 
@RaymondArteaga Huh?
 
The joining thing
are you syed?
 
5:35 PM
Oh then is the sharinganed one
@bluetoothfx did you solved the firebase thing?
 
@RaymondArteaga Parrot?
 
Yeah, i know yo are the parrot
I thought you were the parrot named Syed
nevermind
 
@John you don't currently meet room requirements for write access stated in our rules --> room-15.github.io
 
keep eating seeds
 
Feel free to request again after giving back more and meeting those criteria
7
 
5:38 PM
Online since 21-10-2019 17:38 (UTC). Running on develop@355b70d. Uptime: 0h
 
oh hay tim
 
Is the Tim's son also called Tim?
 
Yes , Tim. Jr
 
Why is my message starred?
twice
 
It's important to make a stand
 
5:45 PM
I guess that's fine since there's no name. I've just seen similar ones get starred with someone's name and I feel like that's calling someone out unnecessarily
anyway, carry on...
 
also
cM o/
 
more shame is more lesson learned
 
plus it's a chance to star someone not named Tim
 
o/ Mauk Mauk :)
Shame has to be deserved
Dave, but I've got so much better content that goes starless
 
Are you saying Tim already had his time to shine?
 
5:46 PM
Shame has to be deserved earned
 
Which you know all about, huh?
 
Unfortunately, no, not really
I carry about 99% less shame than I should
According to others
 
and more than half of less than you should
 
@codeMagic If only that was... ๐Ÿ™
@codeMagic If only that was the case.. ๐Ÿ™
Mobile chat is garbage
 
@TimCastelijns nice
Tossin' in the Bilboisms
 
5:49 PM
I tried
 
Try harder
 
don't tell me what to do
 
Then don't listen to me
 
don't tell him what to listen to
 
don't speak for me
 
5:53 PM
I was speaking for us
 
Communist!
I always suspected your red avatar
You're a commie from the PHP room, aren't you? Infiltrated here to corrupt us.
 
Test
 
I'm the best kind of communist though
 
Test edited.. second test
 
the oppressive killing kind
 
5:55 PM
Russian roulette was invented to fairly distribute the killing
 
Test1 after 5sec
 
test 4.5 after 9.6 seconds
 
^
 
Okay @ballBreaker
Okay @ballBreaker great idea
 
hahaha
 
5:56 PM
Please review the room rules
 
did you just do a wayne
 
Nice ROing Dave
 
He used my full name and it made me feel bad
 
Okay so seems you gotta give it a few seconds before editing to be considered as the same message.. this is dumb
 
are you talking about pressing the up key?
hmmmm
idk what you're talking about Mehdi
 
6:00 PM
He's talking about SO mobile chat
 
When I write a message from the mobile chat, and edit it 1 or 2 seconds later, 2 messages get sent (like the double ping with cm and bb)
Whereas if I wait for a few seconds the said message gets edited inline
 
I think the real secret here, is clearly just to never make mistakes
That's always the real pro tip
Be better
Then again, not sure how you improve upon perfect, right ? right?
 
I'm working on it bb, I'm working on it
@ballBreaker right, I guess I just have to be bad at stuff so I can at least leave room for improvement
My theory is that these few seconds are basically what it takes for a message to be persisted, if not yet persisted, a new message gets sent
 
that's purely theoretical
 
@MehdiB. That's always my yearly excuse
 
6:09 PM
i think mobile chat just sucks
 
it does
 
That's a hypothesis
 
you are hypothesis
 
it's a well established theory at this point Mauker
 
don't claim the scientific insignificantness of his statement
 
6:11 PM
You ever have a situation where someone is so convinced that they're right, and you have the ability to prove them wrong.. and you think about not proving them wrong because in the end, what do you even really gain. But then you correct them anyways, because it kinda feels nice just to shut people down
 
dont claim that he claimed
 
that sounds like arguing in a team based MP game
 
Only if there was a nice chat app
 
looks at mauker
 
looks at Tristan
 
6:12 PM
@TimCastelijns hahaha yea it does, doesn't it
 
@ballBreaker @CarlAnderson lives for these moments
 
looks at a certain MSV library not fixed yet
 
looks at self
Fucking migraines
 
@DaveS I just did it and it was entirely not necessary but this guy was convinced a certain field in a database was "not considered a flag" because it was a string, but it was a 'y' or 'n'
 
'y' looks more like a char than a string
 
6:14 PM
lol that's a fair assumption though
 
^
 
what idiot uses string for a flag
 
v0v
 
noooooooooobs
 
pity
 
6:14 PM
The thing is literally called UPLOAD_FLAG
 
_FLAG lol
 
even worse
 
sounds worse than php
 
like saying NAME_STRING
 
mNAME_STRING
 
6:15 PM
-1 mauker
 
the flag is important because it's the wrong data type
 
Yeah I don't know what idiot decided to do a VARCHAR(1) lmao
Anyway the point is that it's still a flag
If it quacks like a flag, and walks like a flag and is called a flag, it's a flag
 
except you can't evaluate it against 0
because it's a character
 
sure you can
 
its a char flag
 
6:16 PM
It's just messier
 
I would rather use a Long to set flags
 
Long?
you use 100000000000000000000000 for flag?
 
stupidFlag -= 'y' == 0 ? true : false
 
100000000000000000000L to be exact
Just 3 less zeros
 
no one cares
 
6:19 PM
wow we have a stupid bot now
 
@DaveS Invalid command! Try help for a list of available commands..โ€.โ€.โ€.โ€.โ€.โ€.โ€.โ€
 
oop
 
lmao
 
Another bot?
@RaghavSood come to take a look at this mess
 
it's JBis's
 
6:23 PM
dude comes here, makes a bot, and leaves
 
Everyone knows only 1 bot rules: the zucc
 
Fun fact of the day
There is a hammerhead shark in the ocean named Old Hitler
 
@MehdiB. 2 pings for 1 word and 1 article :D
 
Yeah, I'm thinking of posting on Meta, how can we be the biggest network for programmers when we can't even have a working HTML page
 
inflammatory titles on meta SO always work out well
"Chat on mobile is garbage and you're garbage people for not fixing it"
then proceed to work in insults at least every 40 words or so
 
6:32 PM
you should see the edit history of post that i posted here xD
 
@RaymondArteaga bro may be I will move to custom rest api.
 
@MehdiB. They gave up on SO chat like a solid half-decade ago
I would be surprised if they don't try to phase it out entirely
 
@DaveS I will say, my good friend Dave said that "Chat on mobile is garbage and you're garbage people for not fixing it", though I don't agree on the tone, I think he's making a point, what are we doing to improve SO mobile?
 
lol
 
a large chunk of content moderation is operating on chat
 
6:34 PM
I always read about the EOL on obscure services no one uses and think, "who uses stuff like this" and today I realized I'm one of those people on SO chat
 
Tim are you feeling relaxed now?
 
actually I just pooped, so yes
3
how did you know?
 
;)
9
 
XD
That was a creepy response :D
 
I'm a simple man, I see poop and stalker jokes, I star
 
6:38 PM
'when a simple emoji become jokes ROFL'
 
the fuck you're posting bfx?
 
sorry guys wrong post
sorry
just miss fire.
searching gifs & paste wrong thing. extreamly sorry
 
carry on
 
sorry Mehdi. sorry room :(
 
6:49 PM
\o/
 
only just now catching up on ViewModel and LifeCycle classes and design
 
LifeCycle LifeCycle
 
trying to do a hackweek project and created a new Android Studio app and it prepopulated with all this stuff and I don't know how it works
 
nice
 
I don't think now is the right time to try to learn all this stuff
 
6:58 PM
Hi
 
most template stuff is crap, just clear everything
 
I got mail from google recruiter.does any one know the process of interview
 
hi Lavanya
I interviewed with them in March
 
yeah
 
@CarlAnderson Hi
 
7:00 PM
what do you want to know?
 
they sent me a link to schedule the process
i dont prepare for interview yet
and i am lagging in communication too.so bit nervous about it
 
you should start preparing then
 
i just want to know the interview process
 
is it for a developer role?
 
Software Engineering - Android
 
7:03 PM
they will have ~6 hour long technical interviews then
did you have a phone screen?
 
@LavanyaVelusamy HR (30min) - you'll get an email with material to prepare (data structures and algorithms) / make sure you give them a date that suits you to have time to go through that material - you'll do a live coding session of 1h -1:30 on google docs - if you succeed you'll go to their office for a full day and do 2 or 3 coding sessions on a whiteboard
 
o/ Carl
 
what do they pay you for the interview?
6 hours holy shit
 
7:06 PM
^
 
o/ cM
 
o/ cm
 
@TimCastelijns typically free lunch.
 
@TimCastelijns if you succeed, the salary is worth it, and if you fly from abroad they pay for flight tickets + hotel + food
 
for life? :D
 
7:07 PM
my interview was from 10-4 with a 1-hour lunch
 
@MehdiB. okay
 
only if they hire you :D
 
@CarlAnderson well congrats for having succeeded the online test at least :D
 
if you are curious, feel free to set up some time on Denesha's calendar

We're really interested to learn more about you and what you want to achieve. So even if now is not the best time, we can still establish a connection for the future. Thank you for your time!
i got like this with calendar link
 
@MehdiB. my connections allowed me to skip that part.
 
7:09 PM
ah okay
 
privileged enough to go through the long drawn out annoying part before getting rejected
 
nice
 
ours are about that long
Because you meet with about that many different people
people seem to hate it
 
@LavanyaVelusamy mostly they interview in ph. at first , then a written exam
 
I have trouble spending more than 30 minutes with you online so I understand completely
 
7:14 PM
@bluetoothfx ok
 
wish you luck
 
thank you
 
@DaveS lmfao
Coding interviews make me want to give up coding
So I guess everyone wins in that scenario
 
@codeMagic I had: day1 - 1h with the hiring manager, day2 - 1h with hr + hiring manager + 2h live coding + technical case study, so 4h
 
That's a lot of time wasted to find out that you aren't good enough for google
 
7:21 PM
nope, that wasn't for google, it was for my current employer
 
Oh!
the one for my current employer was a total PITA but didn't have any coding so I was cool with it
2h live coding doesn't actually sound that bad
it's the whiteboard stuff that can go to hell in a handbasket
(unless your 2h of live coding was in fact, on a whiteboard)
 
I had another interview, 4 steps, and 1 technical challenge for a day at their office (I was a freelancer, that didn't bother me), then when I cleared all steps, I realised I got played, I had written them a client for their API, and they kept sending me emails, M. X is coming back from vacations next week and you'll get the offer etc... :)
 
that's rough
 
That's why you sneak in a timebomb to all coding tests
If someone tries to use it more then X days later, wipe their system
Or ransomware
Or just delete random files
 
Hours are 30-45 mins with 5-6 people
 
7:27 PM
that amount of time per person, or in total?
 
per person
 
That sounds unnecessary
 
maybe
 
Makes more sense to me to do 2 or 3 2on1's
 
But, 2 of them are the top 1 and 2 in charge of engineering. A few for more technical questions on different technologies. Then the ones I'm on are usually more cultural, team, remote fit type questions
 
7:30 PM
that's probably because you're the coolest guy in your office
 
Mostly
If I think they might be hired in on my team then I ask some technical questions but not much because I realize they've been through enough
 
Yeah, simply having to meet with cM can take its toll on people
 
And I'm the most senior remote for the most part so that's why I ask those types of questions to get a feel for how they will fit in culturally and whatnot
That's probably true
 
Candidate: "Why is none of the code at this company commented/documented?"
cm: "It's codeMagic"
 
I don't mind technical questions as long as I see that the interviewers exchanged with each others, some just make you repeat something or some algorithm just because they didn't communicate so you start all over at every step of the process
 
7:33 PM
yikes
@RaghavSood codeTragic
3
 
That's part of our problem, I think. There isn't time to communicate that because they are back to back
 
hi o/
 
But I think people probably try to ask about different areas. i dunno
 
I personally find that instead of having someone write code, it is more insightful to give them some slightly broken code and ask them how they'd debug it, or to give them a larger problem and ask how they'd architect a solution
 
r15 seems to be back up and popular
 
7:35 PM
@RaghavSood that's good
 
one of those days
 
Many people specifically study for interviews (which is fine) but then also biases them to be able to pass random graph traversal questions without actually being able to do actual dev work
Harder to fake your way through explanations
 
I absolutely HATED all whiteboard questions because they were all some bullshit doing some obscure data type I've never really had to use in the real world
 
I had once: DSAs + data manipulation, then DSAs + data manipulation then DSAs and data manipulation again
 
"create a linked list from scratch using linked nodes and implement a quick search"
yeah or I just do LinkedList.search() like a normal, educated human being
 
7:36 PM
I think it's disrespectful not to prepare an interview
 
xD crabs
 
It's bullshit man
 
@JBis well once you get rid of the oppressive room owner, things just spring to life again.
2
 
I haven't been in the field for 5 years to go back and study my textbooks from university like some damn scrub
 
Preparation is fine, but with most interviews working off a handful of graph/tree/datastructure question sets, it's not a great indicator
 
7:37 PM
^
YES
 
It'll probably still weed out the absolutely useless people
 
It makes me physically angry
 
But so will a more in depth question
 
To me the whiteboard coding interviews are analogous to doing a final exam
What's the point in studying for something you'll forget once you leave
and what is the point of testing someone on the ability to do such a thing
 
@ballBreaker Well... that's all of uni
 
7:39 PM
Yeah
I'm a disbeliever in tests and therefore in whiteboard coding interviews
 
I made my first blog on medium, it's crap but feedback would be appreciated
 
My favourite technical interview the company just gave me a laptop locked out of the network and had me code
and left me in a room for 30-60 minutes to finish all the problems
 
@TaseerAhmad that's cool I never knew you could do that with imports
 
@eski Is there anything in the blog you think can be improved?
 
I'm not really sure how the the visibility modifier relates to the rest of the post
that's all really
 
7:52 PM
Well, visibility modifier refers to imports thats why I thought it belongs there
 
hmm I guess
 
@TaseerAhmad ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
 
Actually, you are right, visiblity modifier does not belong there, thanks
Ty mehdi!
 
@TaseerAhmad Acceptable job, Taseer.
 
Also if you wanna get tons of views, write a post about a fancy custom view you develop from scratch and each step well explained, people go crazy over those
 
7:57 PM
I am using this series to learn how to blog properly, once I am confident enough I will start looking into fancy stuff ๐Ÿ‘
 
The hardest part of blogging is actually continuing to write
 
stop doing productive nerd things and come talk in here more
 
Ty, Raghav
 
Rag is definitely right about that last point lol
 
@ballBreaker Considering all I've learned in here over the years, talking here would qualify as a productive nerd thing
 
7:59 PM
If you can keep it up, chances are you'll probably eventually make some money on it
@RaghavSood Damn, you got me there
 
That's mostly wishful thinking, the vast majority of blogs don't earn anything directly (but can lead to freelance/consulting/recruitment)
 

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