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7:00 PM
opening with root user but smae
\same*
 
it means you're opening a non existing file
 
:(
 
can you come an see
 
sure, give me 5min just time to hop on a spaceX rocket
 
7:04 PM
:/
:(
 
you have mistyped the name postgrasesql.config
and that's why you get that tilde character, because it doesn't exist
try: "cat postgresql.config"
 
lets see
how to save vim file
-_-
ahh
gocchsa
 
next time use the autocomplete of the terminal
 
yes Sir
was coping from web -_-
:/
 
Never copy commands from the web
Always type them out
Trust no one
 
7:18 PM
yes Sir
 
XD
 
@RaghavSood bro finished server setup plus database setup
i have installed minimal version on ubuntu server
now can't connect it via installing xRdp server
just took an useless attempt
but last time i have made through Tight VNC
this time i didn't installed that\
 
Why are you using a gui on a server?
 
because i could n't made the file change
now i did via terminal
xD
 
You should probably consider hiring someone, considering this is an actual paid client project instead of self learning
 
7:24 PM
yes Sir. But I should do it.
 
why do you say "Sir"? he's 19y old :D
 
I'm 21 :(
No wait, I'm 22
 
lol
 
how come
 
I think
Hard to keep track
 
7:25 PM
i thought raghav was 22
 
@bluetoothfx Because that's how linear time works
 
wait shit :/
@bluetoothfx he calculates everytime from his birth date
 
Cold let's go we have nothing here
 
also consider learning linux commands, it's a 1 day thing and it's a well worth investment
 
hmm..I am a windows guy
 
7:26 PM
and sometimes rounding errors happens :D
 
use man command
 
now because of this i need to do this kind of work
i wil get eventually
 
sexist
 
learning through pain
 
I can't imagine how hell it is to code without using the terminal
 
7:27 PM
Yeah, Mehdi, why do people use IDEs at all?
Waste of time
 
bress build button voila
 
xD
 
lol nah , it is excess
ide should use
 
@RaghavSood eeh, I'm not thaaaaat of a nerd
 
@RaghavSood Then use vim?
 
7:28 PM
Only two of us at my current company use terminals all the time
Everyone else uses IDEs
Guess who is more productive
#BanTheMouse
 
those ide ones
 
Not even close
 
^
 
i can't imagine coding without IDEs
 
lmao
 
7:28 PM
come to play PUBG
 
coding without IDE damn
 
Takes them days to do stuff that should take hours
 
what you use then raghav? terminal only?
 
I code in MS word, so I can get typos highlighting and I can make Shakespeare proud
 
Moving the mouse is just so inefficient, plus you also gotta click through nested menus and stuff
 
7:29 PM
@MehdiB. come hug me man xD
2
 
no thanks
 
you would work in IDE without moving mouse also
most stuff have shortcut keys
 
Still much slower
When you click run or debug in an IDE it is gonna spawn a ton of subprocesses, hook up all sorts of events, and whatnot
 
Raghav can't handle mouse then
 
Yes
I try to use it as little as possible
Web browsing is the final frontier
 
7:31 PM
speaking from android experience if you have a machine that can handle the IDE its totally worth it(valid only for android ofcourse)
 
And unfortunately the world of computing has been too corrupted by modern web trends to work without a mouse
 
@RaghavSood debug? use println
 
yes i agree there moving mouse is just inefficient
 
cold xD
 
This was actually a uni project for my design class this semester
Comparing a GUI vs a purely keyboard driven interface
For users using familiar software, using a mouse still took about 600ms to hit the right button, while keyboard shortcuts could do it in 200-300ms
Granted, that was a sample application with a simple grid
 
7:33 PM
wow
 
But it probably has a larger effect on IDEs vs non-IDEs, simply because IDEs tend to be slower as they are applications themselves
 
did you take into consideration that maximum time is spent into writing code which is done by keyboard and dont use run that frequently
 
That said, IDEs serve their purpose, especially for Android/iOS dev
 
yes
 
7:35 PM
@RaghavSood I would argue for most strongly typed languages and the ones that need the developer to use a bunch of imports
 
Not necessarily, you can get import resolvers and type information into vim and emacs easily enough
But sure, a good IDE with vim keybindings can work well
As long as you have a second terminal window to execute your project and other stuff
 
why are you linking raghav's talks here?
 
is this 22 years boy?
really?
 
yes boys can be smart too you know
 
ok
agreed
 
7:45 PM
alright gents, it's been fun and very informative! I'm gonna watch something then head to bed
also @raghav don't forget to ping me when you need my involvement, I wanna work on something challenging :D
 
I shall
Probably towards the end of Nov
 
Nice, thanks!
 
thanks mehdi for Fun
 
wow
ok i have a question for you @RaghavSood how did you get so much exposure to programming stuff at such a young age? did delhi really have stuff that facilitates this?
 
I spent a lot of time online
 
7:52 PM
hmm
 
And a lot of time reading
 
lol probably the shortest answer you could have given
 
That's pretty much all there is to it
We never really did anything useful in school
So I spent all my free time on reading and online
 
indeed schools are worthless here
 
Mostly, yes
 
7:55 PM
i didn't even had a proper internet access till i was your age :(
ah those mobile data days
@RaghavSood i see, a good use of time
i heard DPS is good
 
Yeah, I spent a ton of time just waiting for stuff to load over dial up
 
well at least by our school standards
 
Hence the books
It was often faster to go and buy a book than to try and download large softwares first
 
oh i see, makes sense
 
So I'd buy books on all sorts of topics, then figure out what I wanted to focus on
Then go and get the stuff for that
It's also why I mostly ended up focusing more on lower level dev stuff early on, since it was faster for me to get a C/ASM compiler than to download a QT toolkit or Adobe stuff
 
7:58 PM
ohhhhh
 
I think it took me like a month to acquire my first photoshop copy
 
wow
i mostly did c which worked without internet xD
 
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