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3:01 PM
lol yep
 
Nice.
 
does anyone know anyone who works at Amazon? how fun is it to work there?
 
Work? Fun? I didn't know these two were possible to fit in the same sentence.
 
I can find out, I have a friend who works there as a RAD intern
 
if given the chance to work in canada, would you?
 
3:09 PM
Yes.
Even as a janitor.
 
I live in Canada and work in the US.
 
it would be relocation
 
Only kidding :P
 
@LewsTherin hahaha
 
people drive back and forth everyday from mexico to california to work
 
3:11 PM
I'm sure we pull taxes out before paying him
 
My pay comes from a Canadian company.
 
Oh, do you commute Kendall or work from home? And @ScottSelby I don't think I could drive WI to Toronto in a timely manner
 
@KendallFrey I noticed that you are gangster. I am quite gangster myself .jpg
 
I work from home mostly now. I will be doing some commuting.
I'm gangster? WTF?
 
Pay to fly Kendall into work everyday - he's worth it
 
3:13 PM
L'Oréal
 
@kush I lol'd
 
I think I watch more ads on tv than tv programs
 
I wonder how stackoverflow managed to not have ads everywhere...
 
They do have ads everywhere.
They just hide them when you get enough rep.
 
Where ? ._.
I have 53 rep and I don't see any.
 
3:16 PM
One kind of ad they don't hide is sponsored tags.
android, for example.
 
Erm, I don't see how it is an ad.
 
Well, they get paid by Google to put that picture on the tag.
 
Oh. I see it now.
But it is so small.. It is not everywhere the ad is.
I have no idea what I just wrote.
 
@LewsTherin I got the Gauge to work!
 
Things get really screwy when companies sponsor random tags. RedGate sponsored sql-server or something.
 
3:21 PM
i was never scared of the dark as a kid; I was scared of LEDs or small light bulbs in the dark....kind of looked like the eyes of creatures
 
@klut Hey nice one! How?
 
Not using a source at all. Instead, I created another property at the same level where .Records was, then I pull the value before its added to the Records collection, and fire OnPropertyChange on the new property
 
Yey, lunch time.
 
@Andredseixas no it is not
 
@Ammar-whynotZoidberg Ok, let me rephrase. Yey, lunch time for me. And not for you.
 
3:34 PM
it is not 12 yet. You need to wait till they sound the steam horn
 
12:34pm here now.
 
who starred that, stop
 
I think someone is in love with me. This someone is starring all my stuff.
 
Are we still doing the star everything thing? I thought we stopped that
 
Could you please counterflag those from php. tnx :) We got a serial flagger in there
 
3:47 PM
Too late.
 
Flagging is bad but why put a limit on stars?
 
Flagging isn't bad. Appropriate flagging is good. Appropriate starring is good.
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@KendallFrey /me agrees
 
oh look, its kendall being reasonable again, god, i hate that guy.
 
star
seems like that star regex is no longer at work xD
 
3:54 PM
I'm stronger than any regex.
 
nvm :P
it seems the regex is lagging today
 
do any regex writers exist?
 
RegexBuddy.
 
3:57 PM
like auto regex writers?
 
RegexBuddy has a magic regex creator or something like that.
 
yeah hanz, something where i can input text and get regex out
 
The Regex constructor fits that criteria
 
If you want to generate a matching regex from a piece of text, you're probably out of luck.
An infinite number of regexes match any given set of strings.
 
3:59 PM
yeah, i think regex is just too complex for that sort of functionality
 
@KendallFrey well I can always return ^(exact text)$
 
What about a regex that matches both cat and dog?
 
Is anyone familiar with ASP.NET's HttpContext.RewritePath() ?
 
^((exact text1)|(exact text2))$
 
What are the chances that's what you want?
 
4:01 PM
roughly zero
 
^0\.0+1$
 
or it can always return ^(.*)$
 
Again...
 
I think people expect regex to be magic and use it for things regex was not meant to be used for
 
True.
 
4:03 PM
I use it for nothing :D
 
like I just replaced a 2k+ character regex method in the code I inherited with DateTime.TryParse
 
For example, regex is not a good solution to determining inputs into a game.
 
regex was only meant to parse html, everybody knows that (in case anybody is lurking and see's this... i'm only joking)
 
Wait, is this my universe?
Oh, good.
 
Regex is for building language parsers, duh
</sarcasm>
 
4:06 PM
It is.
Really.
 
regular expressions is for building language parsers for grammars that are regular expressions
 
Regex is perfect for tokenizing a string, if you provide a bit of syntax with a parse grammar.
 
strictly left linear or strictly right linear context free normal grammars
who's starring and unstarring repeatedly?
 
errr. I starred but don't know why it got unstarred.
 
I'm unstarring. I'm trying to break the habit of starring even mediocre stuff.
 
4:09 PM
@Kendall you can do that?
is that +10k or room owner?
 
I can, I have, I do, and I will.
 
everyone can do that
 
Room owner.
@DavidDV Not on other people's stars.
 
isn't that a bit counter community though? if the community thinks something is star-worthy and is on topic, shouldn't it be allowed?
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(just my 2 cents)
 
Not in my experience.
 
4:11 PM
hello everyone, I am showing a form in static function
 
When people star messages about stars, something's gotta change.
 
application loses focus after that form is closed
 
I'm not saying Kendall is doing it wrong, but the fact that room owners can unstar my stars seems a bit community unfriendly to me
 
@jaminator Please explain what you mean by the application losing focus.
 
iow only my messages will be starred in the future
 
4:12 PM
my application goes in background if some other application is open
 
@HansZ What's community unfriendly is starring sex jokes, dead baby jokes, and other off-topic stuff.
 
@jaminator do you mean when you close the spawned form, you don't get the main form back?
 
@HansZ correct
 
@KendallFrey absolutely, and room owners should moderate off topic stars, but on topic stops, even if trivial, should stay, imo. Not trying to make a huge deal about it, it just rubs me the wrong way a bit.
 
code plz
 
4:14 PM
@jaminator I don't think there's a way to programmatically switch focus
 
@HansZ I agree, but right now I'm in a star-closing mood, hopefully to get people to be a little less liberal with stars.
 
I am using codeforge.com/read/48988/CYMessageBox.cs__html as custom message boxes
 
If you use ShowDialog, you should get the focus back.
 
Btw Kendall, I thought that comment was rather appropriate for a star. It was highlighting the fact that you can't use regular expressions to parse non-regular languages.
 
there must be something in there that doing it
 
4:15 PM
é
 
@KendallFrey do this @jaminator
 
@robjb only room-owners will decide what is star-worthy
 
@KendallFrey make a sticky explaining room expectations??
 
Now I know.
 
Lets only star comments that say that you shouldn't star or flag inapproprate
 
4:16 PM
@HansZ its already doing ShowDialog
 
Perhaps, but too many 'stickies' will get annoying.
 
I'm on full on brain fart mode
@KendallFrey make one with everything and unsticky the individual ones
just a suggestion
 
newMessageBox.ShowDialog();
return CYReturnButton;
}
 
k back to debugging, gotta fix this URL rewriting :/
 
already in there
 
4:16 PM
later
 
I have tried Focus,Activate,BringToFrom,SetForGroundWindow
le all dont work
 
@jaminator did you say you hide the original form when you show the dialog?
 
no i dont hide it
i just call static function Show in parent form
 
so you click the button, new dialog window pops up, what happens to old window?
 
newMessageBox.ShowDialog(this); ?
 
4:18 PM
I have to click on application icon in taskbar to bring it back up again
@DavidDV trying tht
 
what happens to old window?
is it still up?
like in terms of window z-order, is your old window the second most on top?
 
wht do you mean by up here?
not sure about that, but its still open if tht what u mean, pardon my ignorance please
 
is the old window right behind the new window?
 
no
 
okay where is the old window
(sorry I'm trying to be as precise as I can with my language and it's hard without getting a bit technical)
 
4:22 PM
well, yes for my application X it is second on top; but as if now its behind application Y window
 
so X = original window, Y = new window created by click?
Y is on top, X is next?
 
@DavidDV tht didnt work
 
:s
 
XA = original window, XB = custom message box, Y = Another application window; after XB closes XA is behind Y
 
so immediately when you show XB, does it go XA, Y, XB or Y, XA, XB?
 
4:30 PM
XB is closed after I press ok btn
so its only Y, XA
 
okay when you create XB
you click a button in XA to create XB, right?
 
yes, immediately when XB shows XA is still behind it
 
When XB is in focus what program comes up when you hit alt+tab?
 
@Grixxly trying tht
 
So when you immediately show XB, it goes XB on top, then Y, then XA?
 
4:32 PM
yes
 
that's super weird
hold on let me try something
 
i had a dream last night that this really hot chick was actually a C# program.....God I truly fear becoming some super geek
 
@Grixxly when XB is in focus Y comes up when i press alt+tab
 
@Nadal can you please stop talking about hot chicks on this chatroom? it's like the only thing you say
 
whoa... that is weird
 
4:34 PM
The Matrix, 2012
 
@HansZ sigh Ill start talking about "hot dudes" just for you
 
@jaminator post an SO question, I have a longish response that might work
 
:P
 
codeforge.com/read/48988/CYMessageBox.cs__html this code must have something in it thts doing it
aight
 
@KendallFrey it really was just like the matrix it broke apart into fragments of code
 
4:35 PM
@jaminator wait hold on
this.TopMost = true;
this.TopMost = false;
this.Activate();
right before return CYReturnButton;
oh wow that was easier than I thought it would be
 
@HansZ trying tht
 
that'll only work on mbox's though
 
this is XB's parent right?
 
yeah
in static public DialogResult Show(string Message)
 
good morning!
 
4:37 PM
basically when you want to steal focus, put those 3 lines of code in
 
wait
@HansZ sweet
works
u r the man
 
no problem
just remember to accept the best answer


EDIT: I was kidding, this is not a stack overflow answer so you can't accept it.
lol don't star everything
 
wtf
someone is star happy
 
@KyleTrauberman there u go
 
this would be a good example of when to start unstarring things
 
4:41 PM
yes
one word stars = not useful
 
this is just a cry for attention, unstarring this is just validating his behaviour
 
in meta it says "star this message as useful" so....
 
topic, not helpful ;)
 
we need the super-chat-nanny in this room
 
sorry, fixed
 
4:43 PM
chat needs upvotes in addition to stars
 
I only star things I think are useful or funny
 
some way to say "I agree with this sentiment" and not "This needs to be saved for posterity"
 
posterity doesn't care about some chat room
 
No, probably not
 
I care about posteriers :P
 
4:44 PM
and the comments that are starred now, are just plain annoying
esp "Please don't play with flags. Every 10k+ user across the whole chat is bothered to vote on flags."
 
IMO, flagging everything & starring crap = childish behavior.
 
We're professionals, we need to act like it.
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what did I miss
 
starring crap about starring is not professional
is just as sad as starring everything
 
4:45 PM
yo dawg. herd you like stars
 
@KyleTrauberman Not all people are professionals. Some are kidos learning to play with a tool.
 
people come in this room for help. if they come here and encounter a wall of nothing but off topic crap
they are going to go away
 
I'm always kind of tempted to change all my recently starred comments to "Java is the most professional and useful of programming languages"
 
defeating the purpose of this room.
 
then remove the star system
 
4:46 PM
I thought people come to stackoverflow for help and chat to, well, chat
 
@HansZ lol
 
@KyleTrauberman I am sure that those who come here for help don't look at the stared comments
 
@KyleTrauberman that reminds me of the PHP and JS room
 
better to remove the stars-shit then to go al anal about it
 
@Kyle @Kendall you guys wanna start a meta C# chatroom chatroom?
I'd be interested in discussing, and it'll help stop flooding this chat with stars and useless crap
 
4:47 PM
No. Meta.SO is good enough.
 
I can understand flagging being annoying. But stars are just fun.
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I mean its cute that room-owners can have their little power-struggle with ppl starring everything but this pro or anti star stuff is both annoying as hell
 
PHP and JS have the right idea, albeit a little over-executed IMO
 
why did someone just star that??????
 
Someone is playing around...
 
4:48 PM
back in my days .. stars ment something
 
lol
 
Precisely.
 
2 mins ago, by Hans Z
I'm always kind of tempted to change all my recently starred comments to "Java is the most professional and useful of programming languages"
 
Stuff like that as a star is fine. stuff like "later" or "F*** Off" is not okay for a star.
 
Now, stars are nothing but a typing-free "lol".
 
4:48 PM
cough cough
 
@KyleTrauberman I agree
 
its supposed to be interesting messages
not noise
 
and who decides whats intresting?
you?
 
community
 
the community
 
4:49 PM
community as in room-owners?
 
mods and owners decide what's unacceptable
 
so community is mods
 
with room owners and mods as moderators of it
 
great :D
 
4:49 PM
community as in people on the chat decide what's good
 
community, and room owners have the right to keep the community to certain rules.
 
omg someone is really trolling with the stars now
 
without moderation, we would decend into chaos
 
and it is funny
 
Erm, the community should decide what is interesting. But the interesting should be on topic of the room title and purpose.
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4:50 PM
[OFF TOPIC] its weird tht we all like community power but love capitalism
 
I don't love capitalism, I just have to live with it.
 
capitalism is not enemies of democracy
 
What if I tell you .. we are all off topic and not discussing .NET right now?
 
@KendallFrey @KyleTrauberman if you don't realize that your anal attitude about starring is causing this backlash then that is pretty sad
 
@Nadal I invoke godwin's law, your argument is invalid
 
4:51 PM
@Ammar-whynotZoidberg Actually we are discussing the room future.
 
I invoke Charizard
 
Perhaps we need to lock the room.
 
use fire tail!
 
can't you just delete it
 
WTF?!? My book says update some edmx file which I don't have, never had, and I've got the source from the book and it isn't there either...
 
4:51 PM
the room that is
 
@Nadal You don't play a lot of pokemon, do you?
 
Why would we do that?
 
why not
 
@Grixxly entity framework?
 
Yes
 
4:52 PM
@Grixxly because the code could be auto generated
 
Because this room has the potential to be something very good.
 
i dont play it, I do it gigggdyy giggdyy giggdy
 
@DavidDV Go, go and say how bad EF is.
 
winforms
 
@Andredseixas this room just became professional so I cant say stuff like that anymore
 
4:53 PM
opinions are fine
we AREN'T trying to be nazis.
 
You can express your opinions about EF. But nobody cares.
 
just keep order
 
I can't find it in either my source or the source from the book... guess I'll keep going forward and see what happens
 
like nobody cares about what is getting starred or not
 
@DavidDV Kyle Truberman: opinions are fine. You may proceed.
 
4:53 PM
I don't know any other ORM atm so EF is just fine for me
 
@Grixxly EF is not fine
 
@Grixxly There's nothing wrong with using EF. Ignore DavidDV, he just hates it.
 
@DavidDV David, he is asking for help. telling him to use something else is not gonna be helpful now
 
Those are examples of perfectly on-topic, legit opinions.
 
4:55 PM
@Grixxly yeah sorry EF is fine -> stackoverflow.com/search?q=Entity+Framework
 
oh and just 2 cents on the stars thing... we give a flying F*ck about stars??
 
@Ammar-whynotZoidberg hey guys, I'm trying to use regex to build an html parser
 
@Ammar-whynotZoidberg telling someone not to use something bad is not helpful
 
wow this room really took a nose dive huh lol
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I'll keep that in mind
 
4:56 PM
@Grixxly we do when they are one word noise like "yeah" or later" or inappropriate
 
@Steve Yes, but we're bringing it back.
 
You guys are getting worse than us (the C++ room) in off-topicness :P
 
@HansZ Not sure if an actual question or bash.. but did you look into HtmlAgilityPack? It allows parsing of HTML through basic XPATH, very powerful and easy to use.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's saying something?
 
I only pay attention to the pinned stuff but if it bothers you that much... have at it /shrug
 
4:57 PM
I don't know, I don't frequent C++
guys
 
@RoelvanUden not actual question, example of a question where telling someone to not use something will be helpful
 
scroll up to the top of the page
and click "highlights"
 
@HansZ Point taken, sorry for the confusion. :)
 
it filters it out to just intersting stuff, driven by the stars
 
@KyleTrauberman We're kinda known for being permanently off-topic.
 
4:58 PM
Telling someone not to use EF is very helpful, if you want a Big ORM then use nHibernate that is better then EF
 
@DavidDV That's an opinion.
 
omg
everything I type in a chat room is FACT
:p
really what are you, Dutch?
:P
 
and normally, off topic stuff is okay - when it degrades into what it did a couple days ago "lots of anal talk" is when it gets bad.
 
Yeah.. that I am.
 
screw this... I'll work on my upload section after lunch...
 
4:59 PM
 
@KyleTrauberman Yeah, that's what I was referring to actually (I saw it in the flags...)
 
@RoelvanUden ouch, sorry didn't know :(
anyway time to go home
 
@KendallFrey you guys aren't bringing it back, you're fighting with the room population, lol.
 
@klut My account got suspended :(
Nice job anyways :)
 

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