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1:00 PM
No.
 
Oh shit
 
Can you feel it? Can you feeel it? Can you feeeeeeEEEEeeel it?
 
I can feel the love
J.Doe is just a grump
 
Did you find it in your meal deal from Tescos?
 
I did
I had food
now am happy
I'm a simple man
 
1:03 PM
found it in those disgusting cookies he gets
 
I get food, it makes me happy
I didn't get those amazing cookies today @Harry
not that you would know if something amazing smacked you in the face!
 
thats why you feel the love
 
I is also a simple lion
 
they didnt ruin your mood
 
I see well designed food, I eat
 
1:03 PM
They would have improved the mood
 
Harry where do you live
 
at home
 
I got a cherry bakewell flapjack
 
Which is where
 
IIRC runcorn?
 
1:04 PM
OS Grid Ref or kick
 
on my road
 
If it is runcorn he's within range to be corrected
 
What's this, another person who thinks that the shortbread chocolate cookies from tescos are nothing short of perfection?!
IT CAN'T BE
 
im nowhere near runcorn
 
No that's right actually
he's in scotland
cuz ya know
hogwarts
 
1:06 PM
heheh
 
where tf did runcorn come from
 
he's gone all quiet now lmao I SPOKE TOO SOON
 
BUSTED
 
@Harry i'm sure you've mentioned it before
 
no
never
 
1:07 PM
Although Runcorn would probably be safe from me
Because effort going all the way around there
 
i live in the midlands
 
And I wouldn't go through liverpool because fuck the mersey gateway bridge
I bet he's a brummie
 
not birmingham or leicester
@CaptainObvious NOW LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT
 
TWLL ME WHERE YOU LIVE AND I WONT SAY HORRIBLE THIGNS LIKE THAT
 
1:09 PM
I bet he lives in nuneaton
 
Until then, I have to assume you're a brum, so put the knife down
Wait do you work in Stoke?
 
Stoke isn't the midlands
is it?
 
I didn't think it was
 
I mean, if he does
and he's just said he lives in the midlands
 
But apparently it's on the north edge of staffordshire
 
1:11 PM
that's a lie
and i don't like liars
 
Which is in the midlands
 
where are you lot getting these mad theories from
 
my tinfoil hat tells me them
I got it from J.Doe
...which is probably why it speaks
 
See stoke at the top
 
yeah ok
 
1:16 PM
@Wietlol shh bby is okay
 
:D
 
@CaptainSquirrel close but no cigar
 
:O
ohhhh i remember now
you live in Coventry right? @Harry
 
(y)
city of peace and reconciliation
 
And barclays offices
 
1:24 PM
which is why i forgive you for those potter jokes
 
don't lie
 
and cov building society
 
no you don't
 
i do
i dont like them
 
liar liar your pantaloons are on fire
 
1:25 PM
i dont wear pants
 
What kind of office do you work in
 
A pantless one.
 
one that isnt in coventry
 
clearly @RoelvanUden
 
i wear briefs
<3 bulge
 
1:26 PM
so you wear pants over those rite
 
no
 
if i was talking about your underwear, i would have said underpants
 
i wear TROUSERS
 
so, pants?
 
Yeah, pants.
 
1:26 PM
T-R-O-U-S-E-R-S
we arent YANKS
 
user47589
Pants are stoopid
 
(hi, @MikeTheLiar)
 
Hey good point, I'm at home office. Brb getting rid of my trousers.
 
The British are so damn odd.
 
why
 
user47589
1:27 PM
Burn them to be sure.
 
Brexit, for one. :-P
 
You can't be sane and rule the planet at the same time
 
user47589
Those trousers are a crime against fashion
 
@RoelvanUden that's different, we was lied to
...by the man who is now our pm
 
Sure, sure, sure, sure...
 
1:27 PM
so
figure that one out
 
at least we havent legalised street whores in our capital
 
At least we get fun meme's because of it
 
user47589
Your new pm is a crime against trousers
 
Our new pm is a crime against humanity
 
Why wouldn't you legalise street whores tho?
 
1:28 PM
because he's a fucking wanker
 
Why wouldn't you legalize whores?
 
I know it's been all "prostitution is bad M'Kay" but we've grown as a society by now. At least enough of us to start changing stuff.
 
pants
 
user47589
Whores don't belong on the street. Let's put a taco truck on every corner and let the Whores make tacos.
 
That's not a reason
 
1:29 PM
Forced prostitution is bad m'kay
@Amy what if you could get a whore AND a taco?!?!?!
Whore in a taco
 
Prostitution is fine if it's their choice. I mean, why not? When it's tied to forced behavior and crime, that's different.
 
user47589
I'd say you're insane. That's not possible.
 
Small taco 30€, free blowjob with each small taco.
 
user47589
You cant fit a whore inside a taco.
 
1:30 PM
^^^
 
C# chat - where you can casually chat about prostitution.
 
Hey, I'm back...
...or perhaps I really don't want to be.
 
@Amy not with that attitude!
 
user47589
He's back!
 
You use ITacoFactory<Whore>();
Then you can generate taco's with whore's in them
 
1:31 PM
*sigh*. No, I really don't want to be.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan you can blame @Harry for this
 
user47589
I wrote my doctoral thesis on taco mechanics.
 
mother of god
DR. TACO?!
 
IWantATacoFactory ?
 
user47589
Ypu can easily fit four mechanics inside one taco.
 
1:32 PM
but you can't fit one whore?
what kind of taco are you making?
 
@Avner we're just discussing society here. Why would you not legalize prostitution?
 
Taco<T> : ICollection<T>
 
A Taco is a Collection? Really?
 
user47589
One that repairs cars.
 
...a Collection that repairs cars?
 
1:34 PM
@Squirrelkiller wasnt that obvious?
 
Uhh sure of course
 
a taco contains sauce and meat and vegetables
 
Oh boy, I look away for 10 minutes and come back to this. Need I remind everyone of the fiasco in 17 that ensued from their discussion of prostitution and the morality thereof?
 
A taco is a tortilla that holds vegetables, sauce and meat
 
i wasnt there
 
user47589
1:35 PM
THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME
 
user47589
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
> THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME
 
user47589
To all stupid, self-apply panini.
 
u sure?
 
stupid.forEach { it.apply { panini } }
 
1:36 PM
y cant we have the same consequences again?
Come on, it's explicitely stated in the room description
 
user47589
Cause of the butterfly effect
 
@MikeTheLiar lightning never strikes twice in the same place
thus
We won't be frozen again!
 
user47589
Impossibru
 
user47589
I need help with my code, but I can't share it or describe what it does. Can anyone help?
 
1) delete it
 
1:45 PM
I'll spend three hours trying to help you learn while you throw a tantrum because I won't write your code for you, does that help?
 
@Amy sure, refactor everything to tabs instead of spaces
 
user47589
Was I supposed to tantrum?
 
user47589
I skipped that step cause it seemed dumb.
 
It's a crucial part of the process
 
I'll fix it for you
 
1:50 PM
So Amy, how much can you tell us?
We'll gladly sit here a few hours and talk about completely the wrong thing probably
 
user47589
I can tell you my code is perfect, so it isn't the problem. However, it doesn't work.
 
user47589
I think this computer isn't powerful enough to process this level of greatness
 
Make sure that whatever code you do share is several layers removed from the actual problem, then bitch about how [thing that actually works perfectly it's just getting garbage data from a bug several methods away and it's definitely the platforms fault because my javascript code doesn't have this problem] and refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that it could be anything else.
 
user47589
OK I'll try that.
 
Witty comment about something in your terminology that was not 100% correct (but probably 95% for all intents and purposes) to have some sort of superiority statement over you
 
2:01 PM
corrects you're typo
 
user47589
It didn't work.
 
user47589
Now I'm getting hundreds of errors
 
Fuck this shitty fucking nas
 
user47589
Fine, though I don't see how that will help.
 
@CaptainSquirrel lel
 
2:04 PM
lol
 
user47589
Whoa! Fucking the nas fixed all my errors!
 
These are the disk response times to open <4kb files. They should be around 50ms max. And this is now that it's all started calming down
 
How are the people in your company getting anything done, Lee?!
 
@CaptainObvious BuT iTs ReSiLiEnT!
 
user47589
2:15 PM
That's the problem.
 
user47589
It's too resilient to ask for help.
 
user47589
Unlike humans and squirrels, ponies do not suffer from over-resiliency.
 
user47589
QED
 
user47589
My brilliance has left you all speechless. It's understandable.
 
bye buys plebs
till tamarow jajaj? good!
 
2:22 PM
cya
 
2:33 PM
@Amy nor do roaches :)))))
 
unlike humans, squirrels and ponies, lions do not suffer from predators with big teeth and large claws
 
mmmm 10,700ms to access a file
 
10 milliseconds is pretty good actually
 
@CaptainObvious is that first-byte-delay? is that full-read time? is that included processing?
 
nah 10 seconds
 
2:35 PM
I hear lions suffer from lionesses' big teeth
 
@CaptainObvious What kind of NAS is this?
 
Lions are actually prey of some crocdiles/alligators
 
that is not suffering, that is... pretty naughty grill :D
 
@Wietlol AFAIK first byte
 
A fucked NAS
 
2:35 PM
Definitely not processing
 
@CaptainObvious network?
or local drive file?
 
@Roel a nas with far too much demand
 
iTs ReSiLiEnT!
 
user47589
Resiliency is a death sentence
 
actual resiliency is great
 
2:37 PM
yeah, Email is resilient
 
Oooh the response times are below 1000ms
Oh wait false alarm, we've still got some above
 
user47589
How low can you limbo?
 
I'm just like Hermes, I'm just like Hermes!
 
user47589
Too bad you aren't that ebony god Barbados Slim.
 
no one will ever be as good as that boi
 
2:43 PM
He's as limber as a green snake in a sugar cane field
 
2:58 PM
@J.Doe I'm wondering what your opinion on this is businessinsider.com/…
 
3:22 PM
ffs javascript people
when I have to read something and the function already starts as
function createViewModelForView() {
var i,
n,
m
...
 
var a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h;a=0;b=14;for(;z(a);){y(a,b);a++}...
I get the feeling
 
mr5
woohooo
that tonight's gonna be a good night
 
3:39 PM
that tonight's gonna be a food fight
that tonight's gonna be a foo-ood fi-i-ight
 
I hate you all.
 
user47589
Let's all hug Mike.
 
on a side note... anyone knows the song "Britney Spears - If U Seek Amy"
 
user47589
Does Brittney Spears seek me?
 
mr5
me!
 
3:42 PM
yep
talk about misheard lyrics
 
mr5
I also know the "Gimme More"
talk it
 
Can someone recommend me a book on statically typed, dynamically typed, strongly typed and weakly typed and what all of these actually mean? Would be super cool if it contained chapters about memory safety and type safety.
Preferably one that is fairly easy to understand.
 
strongly typed and weakly typed can be explained in a couple of sentences.
Unless you're pursuing a PHD
 
I read a paragraph on a SO answer, didn't really explain it in as much depth as I needed.
 
user47589
What don't you understand?
 
3:49 PM
Statically typed means that variables are checked at compile-time, but the link between statically typed and strongly typed is confusing. Same with dynamically typed and losely typed.
I think I understand statically and dynamically typed, they just mean one have variable typed the other doesn't (dynamically typed doesn't).
 
strong type means variables always have a type during declaration. Like
String str; (Compile Time it is available)
 
Does this mean that in dynamically typed languages I can ALWAYS change the type of a variable?
Okay so strongly typed is basically statically typed but you are forced to declare the type when declaring the variable?
 
4:02 PM
weakly typed variables can change type. Best example is javascript/typescript: if you have two types that have an int and a string as member variables, you can shove objects around and pretend they're both of these types basically.
dynamically typed means omsething like...you cant be sure at compile time that the types are the same at runtime, since the types are determined at runtime.
static means the oposite of dynamic: the types are clear at compile time, and wont change at runtime.
strongly typed means you cant shove an object of type a into a refereence of type b, no matter how similar those types are.
 
are there any books that I can read that go into this a little more, and also talk about compilers and interpreters and the difference between the two?
 
if you're familiar w/ php ... that would be an example of dynamic objects
 
I use PHP yes.
So technically C# is kinda both? Mostly strongly typed but because of dynamic
 
Although C# is mainly a strongly, statically typed language, there are workarounds like dynamic and implicit operators.
dynamic is the dynamic type: the only C# class that is dynamically typed.
 
it can be both; but you almost have to go out of your way to work with dynamically typed objects; C# is strongly-typed by default
 
4:06 PM
implicit operators let you pretend you have weak types sorta kinda.
 
mr5
type, in a lower level means, how many bytes it needs to be in memory. so having a statically type means the size is deterministic.
 
I guess from a technical standpoint object is static as it is "object" even though it can be anything since its OOP?
And object can't be changed from = "" to = 0; I'm guessing
 
user47589
What
 
I was thinking the 'object' type is dynamically typed for a second but its not.
 
The fact that object can be just about anything isn't due to weak typing, it's due to polymorphism.
 
4:10 PM
The term "polymorphic" simply means it follows polymorphism?
 
Meaning most things inherit from object.
 
Doesn't everything inherit from object in C#?
Isn't that the whole point of an OOP language?
 
Not structs, for example
OOP is just object oriented, it doesn't mean everything is an object. This isn't Java, after all.
 
user47589
Yes
 
Java is OOP (Object Obsessed)
 
4:12 PM
I think I really need a book to drill all of this into me.
 
Also an object of type object can never be "" or 0. It can only be object.
 
I'm self-taught and only 16 and just got my first job and don't plan on studying CS so maybe a book can help me?
 
I mean, or just write some programs.
 
user47589
Then get a book.
 
Think of something that you may want in your pc or phone, something simple, and build that.
 
4:13 PM
Or don't worry about it (too) much
 
That's what I'm asking, I'm not sure which ones cover all of this stuff. I was hoping you guys could recommend a book? Or books
 
Hey guys I just realized we totally have in impostor: notatroll
 
user47589
Get any object oriented programming book.
 
I have never needed to know the difference between static/dynamic/strong/weak typing in a professional setting.
!!xkcd 664
 
user47589
4:16 PM
My code is frequently too beautiful
 
Too beautiful for this Hello, World
 
I don't think an OOP book would teach all the things I need to know.
If I post all the topics can someone recommend me a book?
 
user47589
Then get more than one boom.
 
user47589
Book*
 
I'm 16 my funds are limited so just trying to make sure I get a good book.
 
4:18 PM
There isn't going to be just one book, there are going to be a lot of books over a lot of time and not all of them will be accessible until you've learned enough things.
 
user47589
You seem to think we have the table of contents memorized for various books. Get a book or two, the internet is available at your fingertips
 
Does weakly typed and loosely typed mean the same thing?
 
Go forth, write code, come back when you get stuck.
Or when you get bored and want to shitpost.
 
I'm not shitposting I'm just trying to improve myself.
 
Wait guys
didnt we have another guy, quite young, wanted to learn, asked for books/resources, didnt wanna write actual code?
 
user47589
4:20 PM
Yeah.
 
I'm having a de ja vu
 
I've written code, that doesn't exactly teach you everything.
 
user47589
But this guy definitely isn't a troll.
 
Of course not, it says so right there!
 
user47589
Unlike that guy
 
4:21 PM
@notatroll Have already looked at ...whatever came after microsoft virtual academy?
 
user47589
You learn by doing. Doing won't teach you everything, but it'll teach you some things.
 
So your telling me not to read a book?
 
especially in software development, I fell like doing lets you learn really much. since oyu cant really destroy too much.
 
user47589
It's like learning basketball. Sure, shooting hoops won't teach you everything but it's part of getting better.
 
Oh totally read a book if you want. but don't do it instead of coding.
Did you do these?
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/tutorials/
Because those will actually teach you too
Not sure how far you are here, these are like essentials in dotnet
 
4:24 PM
I know a lot of code I just struggle with the underhood sort of technical stuff if that makes sense.
I never studied CS I just jumped into code so I missed a lot of what you guys learnt in university I'm guessing?
 
mr5
@notatroll I didn't even read a single programming book yet I still managed to get a job at IT
 
Nah I jumped right in
first contact: telling dragon robots in Legoland to find a castle. Basically jsut chaining brics that say "go left" "go right" "gi straight".
 
mr5
why so assuming that everyone's got a degree? I have none
 
Sorry just most developers I've met have got a degree..
 
second contact: making a small robot in 11th grade follow a black line
 
4:26 PM
I'm currently primarily a PHP developer so CS related things aren't needed but I'm moving into C# soon and want to start learning lower level languages.
 
user47589
I was self taught.
 
mr5
C# is not a low level though
 
Lower, not low.
 
third contact: "awsome I got an actual android smartphone now I can build my own stuff!!!!" and went and built an app that just kinda had an android fly around the screen...from left to right and back.
 
Id say C# is lower level than PHP.
 
user47589
4:27 PM
It's not
 
I...wouldnt
 
mr5
I'd say C# is more flexible rather than being lower level
 
we dont really care about the machine either
 
Okay apologies, I was under the assumption it was.
 
hell by now, we can even build stuff without caring about threads
 
mr5
4:28 PM
we can even build a spaceship in C#
 
user47589
Can you weave clothes without using threads
 
@notatroll i dont have a degree
 
user47589
Checkmate, threadists
 
mr5
book is obsolete
 
user47589
Books about a particular language or API are obsolete within 6 months
 
user47589
4:32 PM
Some books are timeless, like Design Patterns by the group of four
 
Anyone here a fan of head first?
 
I'm off, time to make dinner finally. Cya!
 
user47589
I don't own any of those books.
 
Question..
Why won't VS comment out the last line of a block if you comment out the first {, It should b/c they are tied together? Seems like a silly feature that would be damn useful.
 
What should it do with all that code in the scope you're commenting out?
 
user47589
4:49 PM
Donate that code to some orphans
 
Submit it to the "bug free code" competition.
/* the following code is guaranteed to be bug-free with zero side effects
....snip....
*/
 

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