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12:22 AM
Ribbit
Hi guys
As you know i was contacted by tcs and they made me an "official" offer, but they didn't say anything about how time would they hire me or anything
Should I ask that kind of stuff or is some information implied when they say if I resign before a year I should return whatever expenses they have on me
also, Could I ask about if they can give me a salary advance?
You know for rent deposit and stuff...
 
 
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@RaymondArteaga They should be providing you with a contract that details stuff like salary, relocation stipend, if there is a rent allowance, etc.
It's also not uncommon for companies to put you up in a hotel for a few days when you first move somewhere, but it is possible they don't offer that at all levels
 
6:35 AM
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Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!!! :D
 
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7:39 AM
morning, nerds
 
7:59 AM
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wow tim, not even greeting
 
8:05 AM
Hello Mark, I hope you had a good Morning unlike Tim
 
o/
 
Hiya Murat, Tim, Mark, Mehdi!!!! :D
 
8:20 AM
hey womp, mehdi, mark
 
8:50 AM
@TaseerAhmad ahah !! lol french does not sound like that ahah
HELLO ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
9:11 AM
o/
 
eLi
9:57 AM
Hi
 
10:14 AM
@MuratKaragöz :D Tim not having a good morning?
 
I hope so
 
He did not greet me ): I feel hurt
 
D:
 
10:42 AM
You are importing A in B and B in A... What in the name of god are you doing? — Rajesh 35 secs ago
xD
 
Zoe
10:53 AM
#pragma once ftw
 
xD
 
11:11 AM
!syncstars
!leave
 
Zoe
Did you try hitting the server to see if that helps?
 
I pushed some stuff without testing :)
 
@Ahmad I tired but it didn't work, I got some code but not all of it, the app might be coded in cordova
 
11:28 AM
I wonder why a dialogbox from a fragment has not the same default colors of the "same" dialogbox on an activity ??
Here's the source code (of the alertdialog only) : gist.github.com/reuniware/96dea0650fb57d1185e192805547e03f
 
I think you need to pass a theme
to the builder
 
11:47 AM
Yes I think so, but that would mean that the theme management is different when using a fragment, and I wonder what theme I should pass in order to have the same visual colors as from an activity
The app theme is " android:theme="@style/Theme.AppCompat.Light.NoActionBar">
How to get this theme as an Id ?
 
R.style.AppTheme
 
Yes, thanks
That does not work, and the alertdialog is now fullscreen
 
12:12 PM
Found theme Theme_AppCompat_Light_Dialog_Alert but still the same... :)
 
12:24 PM
how is everyones monday?
 
fine! and u!!!
GOT IT ! YEAH !!!!!
 
Thanks Tim for having pointed me in the right direction !!!!!!
 
12:49 PM
@MehdiB. work work work
 
That might be a new finding that could be a research base for security bug hunters : gist.github.com/reuniware/11ce38629c29f893962cc1911c30f487
 
@MuratKaragöz I can relate :D
 
but tonight there is the new GoT episode to watch \o/
 
yess
what's the go to obfuscation tool these days
 
Put a comment on top
// Please no copy cat
 
1:01 PM
nice
 
~(-.-~)
 
@TimCastelijns boom in production
@MuratKaragöz you havent watched it yet?
 
@TimCastelijns r8
damn complete work and go watch it fast
 
I r8 8/10 m8
 
1:03 PM
8/10?
 
I'll watch it later at night where no one can bother me while wearing my jon snow fan outfit
 
lol you have a fan outfit?
coool
 
xD
 
btw anyone who spoils is banned until the end of the season
 
i would only say the episode was bit of a letdown for me
lol tim
 
1:03 PM
spoiler
 
instant ban
 
all in favor
aye
 
no spoiler or opinions plz TT^TT
 
hehe dont worry no spoilers from my side :D
 
i want to see it like jon snow
knowing nothing
 
1:06 PM
haha
 
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1:20 PM
looking forward to thursday afternoon :D
 
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@MehdiB. why
 
because friday and monday are off :D
 
1:29 PM
yussssss
let's see if I can trap someone to run some pen & paper rpg
 
Jay
hello, thanks for accepting?
 
Zoe
oof, you didn't read the rules
 
Jay
```data class Point(val value: Double)

fun main() {
if(Point(0.0) == Point(-0.0)){
println("doesn't print")
}
}``` Is there any better way to compare the object in kotlin
@Zoe sorry I just skipped it like the terms and conditions in every page.
5
 
well, don't
 
Zoe
^
 
1:32 PM
harsh
 
Jay
i will read it now to correct my mistake
 
Zoe
But unlike most ToC's the room rules are actually useful. Especially the second last point
 
Jay
“I have read and understood the rules”.
 
He is honest
 
1:58 PM
Lol
welcome
 
Ribbit
 
@W0MP3R pen and paper rpg?
is this some genre of game?
@RaymondArteaga No.
 
@ColdFire like Dungeons & Dragons
 
ah i see
 
2:05 PM
@Jay Interesting, I googled it and found out why, so TL;DR: you should use .equals, because == considers -0.0 < 0.0 for floating (Float/Double) numbers, more details here medium.com/@agrawalsuneet/…
wait, I think he meant the opposite of what I said
 
Jay
yes, I tried that too, .equals for comparing object ( .equals and == work the same way in Kotlin for objects afaik). Do I have to override .equals for every data class that has Double or Float? Is there any "better" option
 
from that link, .equals and == don't quite work the same way in Kotlin
I don't know Kotlin, failed helping attempt :D
 
Jay
oh :D
 
what scenario does -0 represent and why should it be treated the same as 0?
 
Jay
It is a point in the cartesian coordinate system
In some of my tests, I am getting results which derived to -0.0 sometimes and 0.0 sometimes. it fails in -0.0.
 
2:17 PM
use separate X,Y instead of a double
 
o/
 
Jay
@Tim
 
Zoe
Isn't == .equals while === is Java's == (equility checking)
 
Jay
yes @Zoe
 
Zoe
something like val int = Scanner(System.`in`); require (int == 0 && int !== 0)
 
2:20 PM
please don't ping me I am right here
 
Zoe
@\Tim
 
Jay
sorry that was a mistake
 
that's in the rules too
"Don’t ping users (@username-ing) unless it’s to clarify who you’re speaking to or you need to get a specific person’s attention."
 
Zoe
Can users exclude themselves from that?
 
Mostly, people develop a sense of if a regular is okay with being pinged more than usual
 
2:23 PM
agreed with @raghav
 
Zoe
oh
 
you can mute all pings, or none
I think you meant something else, nvm
 
2:35 PM
lol
you can mute the tab tim
no sound that way :D
 
yeah I just said that
 
Jay
just found thru the decompile byte code in IntelliJ that Kotlin internally generated .equal method uses Double.compare method to compare the values of double. Double.compare(-0.0, 0.0) method return -1. and 1 for both 0.0's
 
you can't store coordinates in a double bro
 
-0 could be that you came from negative numbers to zero
 
@TimCastelijns ah i thought you were referring to desktop notification
 
Jay
2:42 PM
where should I be storing coords?
 
Word
 
Hiya Graeme!!!!!!! :D
 
Jay
Word??
@TimCastelijns I tried float too it did not work. Float uses Float.compare
 
Zoe
Yes, Word. In the .NORM file format
 
it should be fairly obvious that you can't represent 2 values with 1 value
 
2:47 PM
PowerPoint
 
Zoe
yOU pOsT bINaRy oNE nOtE sAVeS
 
Jay
oh, that sorry I just wanted to show you the problem.data class Point(val x: Double, val y: Double) is the actual format
 
3:01 PM
ok what if you only allow coordinates in the first quadrant? Then you only have positive values, problem gone
 
3:14 PM
o/\o
 
\o
 
ah a familiar guy
 
The secret to correctly storing coordinates is to hire an ex-KGB agent to follow each user around with a notepad
 
Sand storm just passed by here, forgot to close the windows now there is sand everywhere ;(
 
3:22 PM
The secret to not having sand everywhere is closing your windows and doors and other possible ports of entry into your house during a sandstorm
 
very secretive, wow
 
xD
 
Or live somewhere without sandstorms - like Canada
 
I often listen to 50-80s songs. Anyone else prefers older over newer music?
 
3:33 PM
50-50
 
@Graeme and deal with icestorms?
 
Ah, but with Ice storms, if you have the window open anywhere in the house, you really really really know about it
 
do ice storms happen to apologize?
 
xD
yeah they apologize in advance
@FélixGagnon-Grenier right?
 
3:40 PM
Did you guys know if you pass in null to a varargs method, the varargs argument isn't null?
 
@ColdFire it's k. we love those
@ColdFire lol yeah
 
hmm i wonder what icestorm will feel like
 
it depends if you have a winter coat or not
 
i should add canada to my list of places to visit
 
[N]ice
 
3:42 PM
it can range from enjoyable to death
... ok that was a mood killer, sry
 
lol
 
@Graeme what if the varargs type is not nullable?
 
then no fun
 
I don't think it's possible for the varargs to be null...?
 
@Graeme then what it is?
 
3:46 PM
When you say nothing but it really is nothing because nothing itself is something
 
that nothing is something
 
It's an array with a single null value
Which caught me off guard
 
When you assign null to a variable, the variable is still not null because it is pointing to a null reference
 
@Graeme makes sense
 
It does... but it wasn't what I was expecting. I was expecting a null array not a non-null array with a null value :)
 
3:49 PM
that must be how it is internally implemented
which makes a lot of sense imo
 
it should work that way
 
varargs is not interested in what you pass , its only interested in putting what you pass in array and giving it to you
yes it shouldn't return a null array
 
if you pass nothing it should give an empty array
 
I think I should quit university.
 
if you explicitly pass null it should give a size 1 array with null as the first entry
 
3:51 PM
its not really the job of array to check your input
yes eski exactly what i said
 
it's also consistent with passing something like "1", null, "2", where you want null as an entry
 
yes
 
4:04 PM
Time to go~~
Cya tomorrow/later people!!!! :D
 
cya
 
4:25 PM
now rain is happening ^^
this is the love of summers :>
strong winds + rain.. my type of weather
 
4:37 PM
@TaseerAhmad seems good. Waste of time in our field
 
Depends what University
 
4:48 PM
Degrees are important
They simplify work visa applications a great deal
 
not here
 
File demoFolder = new File(Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() + "/demo/");
demoFolder.mkdirs();
I can create directory with following code
but I can't see it when I connect my phone as external storage
 
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From phone file manager it is fine
any idea guys?
 
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4:50 PM
Pakistani too, I imagine
@TimCastelijns Life is harder on an Indian passport
 
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String.Format("%s Tim", "Bro.");
 
You are right
Without degrees there is no chance for a work visa
I just don`t find interest in it. It is consuming my time when I should be working and learning and consequently taking a toll on my mental health
@Graeme This is something that I respectfully beg to differ. A person`s merit should not be measured according to the institution the person is paying to. It just does not matter
And I have not found a single employer(yet) whose requirements are specific to a certain grade of universities
 
5:00 PM
I've never been the hiring at an employer who requires a certain university
 
I've never seen an employer who required a degree of any kind
 
But I 100% pay attention to where someone has got a degree from and judge them appropriately, as do my peers
So, it totally matters - maybe not to you, but unless you're the person doing the hiring then...
 
For so long I did not find any interest in anything until about a few months ago. I found Android development(more exactly mobile dev) to be the interesting one. It is like I have found what I want to do for as long as I love to do.
 
it's an NL thing
 
NL?
 
5:02 PM
Tim, yes you are right. But we really do not have any choice but to throw away time and money so we can get a work visa
 
NL is where I live my man
 
Work visa you definitely need a degree :D
But getting one in your target country is waaaaaaaay better for you. That's what I learned from getting my visa
 
I am already about to finish my 5th semester and completely lost interest, perhaps I should just drag myself to the end
 
Many places don't require a degree to hire you
But many countries require at least a bachelor's to consider you for a work visa if you do get hired
Or they want much longer work experience, like 8-10 years
 
Taseer - you definitely should
 
5:06 PM
Getting a job is usually considerably easier than getting a visa for our passports
 
How exactly would I get that in a target country? I wish if it was THAT easy
 
A degree becomes less about how difficult the courses are and what you learn and more about Stamina at a certain stage :P
Student Visa
They're easy to get, just expensive
 
Exactly, they are expensive. My side of the story is a little different which is why I can not afford to study abroad
 
Fair enough
We paid $18k for our Student Visa
 
You should all opt for magic internet money
I can pretty much self fund my education
Granted, if I'd sold earlier, I could have semi retired instead
But you only lose money if you sell low, right?!
cries in poor
 
5:13 PM
I think my AS got fked again. I hate updates.
 
posted on April 15, 2019 by Bradley Allen

Android Studio 3.5 Canary 11 is now available in the Canary and Dev channels. If you have Android Studio set to receive updates on the Canary or Dev channel, you can get the update by choosing Help > Check for Updates (Android Studio > Check for Updates on macOS). Otherwise, you can download it here. Smart editor support for AndroidX Preference library Android S

 
o/ all
 
@Feeds thank you not thank you
\o
 
Hi Dave
 
Feeds just wants to make sure your AS is always trashed, Taseer
It's how the big studios secretly keep small time devs down
 
5:16 PM
It's true, my AS is 3.3 and I'm not planning to update it until 4 :P
 
Even the Feeds userid is negative, just like its intentions
Take a hint, guys
 
I found w0mper's secret super user account
 
A month or two ago, released my app, packaged by app bundles. Was able to throw only 1 another update before Play console started slapping me saying that app bundles do not match. Had to unpublish the app -.-
 
@AdamMc331 knows how that feels
 
ello all
 
5:21 PM
o/ bb
 
Just saw that sticky now (was off sick all last week) congrats on number 2!
Here is a congratulatory video on baby #2
 
thanks
 
Also, 2 is enough
Please stop procreating
:)
 
5:25 PM
2 is perfect
 
afraid that's not up to me Graeme
 
balanced as all things should be
 
I like 18
 
I mean - 0 is perfect. 1 is I guess "Okay" in a non-extinction sort of way.
2 is maximum
 
2 in 2 out
It's not us westerners that are the problem
nuke china and india, I always say
 
5:27 PM
I'm trying to raise the ratio of intelligence in the human species, so I need to make as many as possible
 
Dave - Oh, er, sorry. I thought you were there one bringing half the receipe. Props on the polyamoury :)
 
for all of our sakes
 
@DaveS Well thank god your wife is smart, then!
4
 
I know right!
 
XD
 
5:29 PM
Did you enjoy that thunderstorm last night Graeme?
I was fully thrilled by it
 
I didn't know Graeme's husband was nicknamed Thunderstorm
 
o.O
 
I thought you would all enjoy that more my bad
 
not as much as you enjoyed that drought last night
 
lol
 
5:51 PM
lol :D
I enjoyed it, I was afk tho
 
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