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4:05 PM
@MuratKaragรถz ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ valid question
 
still no idea what his question is supposed to be
 
if any of us were able to watch the blood moon 2 nights ago
 
full moon here. moon is bright and big
 
1 hour ago, by Murat Karagöz
The day before yesterdays eclipse is just like any other day?
 
should get my cam out and capture a few photos of the moon
 
4:13 PM
he meant (day before yesterday)'s eclipse
 
i know
 
exactly my thoughts XD
 
agree.
 
@TimCastelijns That's why you take the picture when the thunder strikes doh
 
4:33 PM
Bijay Yadav requested access. Rep: 22 - Questions: 1 - Answers: 14 (ratio 4:56)
 
!accept
Any math nerds around
 
@BijayYadav welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
@RaghavSood maybe
 
CA is a math nerd
 
o/
 
4:37 PM
Let's say I'm trying to generate an easily rememberable/typeable string. I follow a gfycat approach, and do adjective{3}animal to get strings like PardonableCrumblingMeltedWalrus
Now, I want the animal part to act as a checksum. To do this, I compute a fletcher sum over the ascii values of the adjectives (lowercased), and modulo that against the length of the animals array to pick an animal.
Unless I'm mistaken, this should cover typos, swapped words, and missing letters, correct?
 
cya guys. time to sleep
 
InsufficientIQException
 
The only issue I have is verifying the checksum later, since you would have the separate the animal from the adjectives
If it is typed in correctly, it's trivial to search on the sorted source list
But if there are typos, then you would detect it when searching the list and finding no matches
So do I really even need a checksum?
 
o/
 
Fwiw, the generated text will almost always be copy pasted, this scheme is just to allow easy verification that it as copied correctly
So 99% of the cases will be missing a letter at the start or the end
Ah, I don't really need a checksum then
Thank you all for being rubber ducks
 
4:41 PM
Why would you need a checksum
 
@Ahmad i dont see it
 
I'm beginning to suspect I don't
Since my words come from a predefined list, a trie traversal for the search will quickly detect any errors
The only scenario is that someone types in an incorrect word, that also happens to be another word on the list
Which is unlikely, since I've filtered the list to be unique across the first four letters for each adjective
 
@RaghavSood you are using animals as checksum? Now I understand why quantum phycisists use colors to designate quarks...
 
so you don't really have similar sounding words that could be easily mixed up
 
Basically what you are doing is to add the values of the adjectives and get a index to find the word in the list
dont see the checksum part there
 
4:43 PM
The fletcher sum is a checksum
It can detect "Murat" vs "Muart"
Or even "Muat
The Fletcher checksum is an algorithm for computing a position-dependent checksum devised by John G. Fletcher (1934โ€“2012) at Lawrence Livermore Labs in the late 1970s. The objective of the Fletcher checksum was to provide error-detection properties approaching those of a cyclic redundancy check but with the lower computational effort associated with summation techniques. == The algorithm == === Review of simple checksums === As with simpler checksum algorithms, the Fletcher checksum involves dividing the binary data word to be protected from errors into short "blocks" of bits and compu...
 
what's your fletching lv
 
I don't think pig has enough bits to hold the checksum
 
Hmmmm, although, theoretically, if I can find an easy way to separate the animal from the rest of the string, the checksum could be used to verify the string is valid before even checking the trie
The pig's position does
 
thought animal is the last part of your string
 
I suppose you could pick the animal name out via a reversed trie
 
4:46 PM
Just search for animals in your string
2
 
Then validate the checksum
Technically, it doesn't need to be animals, any proper noun would work
Maybe I can limit my noun list to something like 5 letter nouns only
Then select the last five in the string, then checksum
 
I still have no idea what you're talking about but that sounds like it will work
Just try to make it linear
 
xD
 
First three words to get the fletchers checksum, then add a noun also with fletchers checksum or else it could also be misspelled
 
I don't really need a checksum tbh
Just gonna remove it
Simplify the process
 
4:51 PM
Why not?
 
When you look up the words to confirm that they are in the list, you will catch any typos automatically
Since the data is well defined, there are limited valid combinations
 
You could precheck the URL and save a db access call
 
The idea is to eventually do this check client side, before the url reaches me
Which is also doable via a simple list look up
 
even better
save traffic
 
So no checksum needed
 
4:52 PM
but the list look up, isn't that a huge request call
 
Nah, only 2560 adjectives and 122 animals
Just hardcode it, list will not change
 
eeeek hardcoding
 
That already gives 2.0468204e+12 unique combinations, so I just generate random ones
Odds of collision are negligible
 
Oh now I understand
 
Oh, 121 animals, my bad
Just deleted "frog" from the list
For, uh, reasons
 
4:54 PM
Can't you use a predefined list of words?
 
xD
 
But I like the algorithm for fletchers checksum
 
That's exactly what I'm doing
 
it's not that dumb
 
If something is misspelled shouldn't fit
 
4:55 PM
Exactly what he is doing ray
 
Yeah, it's quite nice, my original plan was to do numbers instead of words
Where having a checksum makes more sense
But numbers are hard to type and quickly catch errors in via human eye
 
If something is misspelled then it's not on your list
 
So I moved to words
 
are you planning on enslaving animals after humans?
 
Yup, that's the idea
 
4:55 PM
So, it will make the string invalid
 
The list has been filtered to avoid words that are a typo away from each other
So it only has deer, not dear as well
 
What's the problem then?
 
Not much really, checksum was a leftover from the number scheme, can be removed
 
well then all settled
@RaymondArteaga applied somewhere else?
 
Nope, to busy those days
I deliver my last project yesterday
I'm planning to rest for a day or two
 
4:59 PM
Time to go~~
Cya later people!!!!! :D
 
@RaymondArteaga if your animals can be found in a string, they must be pretty skinny
 
cya wompy
 
Or should I say stringy
 
on the mark
 
@MarkO'Sullivan Is it possible for someone to not understand the own jokes?
 
5:01 PM
not OK
 
I don't understand
 
he is probably asking if you even understood your own joke
 
of course I do
 
That wasn't a joke, that was a serious comment
Was that comment stupid?
 
no just a little incorrect english
 
5:03 PM
What would be the correct way?
 
"is it possible for someone to not understand their own joke"
 
^
"their" instead of "the" basically
 
Oh! I was talking about the animal string
Why was that worthy of a star?
 
Ah you're saying I missed your joke!
 
where was your joke?
 
5:05 PM
I didn't, I just wanted to add to it :D
 
No, I'm saying I missed my joke
 
you didnt understood your own joke?
 
wait what
 
It wasn't a joke -_-
 
oh people star stuff they find interesting not that it has to be a joke to be starred
4
dammit and you say we are weird dude :/
 
5:07 PM
Oh! Now I get the purpose of stars
 
DamagedEvilLeopard
I wonder if users will complain
 
Are you creating seeds or something?
 
Might need to get someone to go through the list and remove potentially off putting words
Nah
Seed lists are already well defined
 
I wonder what you are trying to do...
 
@BijayYadav your access has been revoked because you did not respond
 
5:09 PM
nice
 
sarcasm stars
3
 
^ that too
 
You should add star rules to this room's constitution
 
request denied
 
You should add requests processing rules too
 
5:40 PM
request denied
o/ all
 
\o dave
 
6:30 PM
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โ™๐Ÿ“
 
7:06 PM
โ““/
 
7:39 PM
\โ“ฃ
 
I would like to bring a shrink to this room
Hopefully he will find some interesting human behaviors here
 
And froggy behaviors as well
 
the only message he'll ever get from this room is "!reject" ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
Oh... the subtle meaning of an apostrophe
 
7:55 PM
I dont'tn't understand
 
y'all'd'ven't
that's the max one could come up with right?
 
That's what I call interesting human behaviors
 
@TimCastelijns lol
 
8:17 PM
Does canned peaches tastes like natural ones?
 
No
Maybe
 
V.7 requested access. Rep: 94 - Questions: 3 - Answers: 13 (ratio 4:17.3)
 
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@V.7 welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
@RaymondArteaga A lil
 
V.7
8:30 PM
I have read and understood the rules
 
welcome v7 :)
 
V.7
Thank you o/
 
@ballBreaker what's lil?
 
Lil Wayne's first name
 
8:45 PM
and Lil Pump's first name
 
Hi @V.7 I want to introduce myself and the other room administrators
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he's just kidding v7, Raymond is a little bit weird, you'll get used to it
 
Wow but I'm not kidding about being a room administrator
See what I can do:
!remind me on 1 day
 
Unknown command '!remind me on 1 day'
 
See?
Damn this bot is broken again
 
8:52 PM
!remind me 1 day
 
Unknown command '!remind me 1 day'
 
I would have to fix it with my superhuman coding abilities
 
9:07 PM
psst: two things to improve on your fake story next time: Make sure to use the term "room owner" instead of "room administrator" and make sure your name is written in italic style...
 
lol ^
i see warren is doing the carl's job in his absense
 
@Warren chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/187123/berliner if you feel like socializing sometime :D
as murat said, if you're up for it, given your daily commute, we'll go with whatever place / time suits you best
 
yeah, we will find something useful
 
ah nice meeting setup
 
man I'm excited :D
 
9:16 PM
just testing
 
We should also do a meet up for everyone who does not live in Germany
 
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I honestly wished we got a picture of you, mwb, CF and jordy :D
 
Yeah, when his highness visited the netherlands
 
9:20 PM
@Mauker are you mauking adam's absence?
 
> 26 billionaires own the same wealth as 3.8 billion people
 
good
 
9:56 PM
A new season of the punisher is out :O
 
10:10 PM
@TimCastelijns Cubans are allowed?
 
@RaymondArteaga didn't realize canned peaches weren't natural
@TimCastelijns as long as it's in Phoenix so I don't have to travel
@ColdFire got a new burn for @adam next time I see him
 
10:27 PM
roast me
 
Make like your keystore and get lost
 
ouch
 
I know
sry bb
 
<3
 
lol wtf
 
10:30 PM
@DaveS I think they boil the peaches or something, I found canned peaches tasteless
By natural I meant the fruit as taken from the tree
 
10:48 PM
With or without pesticides
@RaymondArteaga yeah bring cigars
 
I don't smoke, that's a very unhealthy habit
Besides the Meetup should be at Guyana or Togo, there are too few countries where I can go without a Visa
 
11:07 PM
didn't realize frogs needed a passport
 
Cuban frogs do
 
Even Cuban frogs are hated :|
 
11:40 PM
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