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6:00 PM
That's.... unusual
Training to deal with @AdamMc331?
 
oh damn that sounds intense!
how is it?
 
He's training his ability to throw people on lakes
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Super fun! A fuckton of work. Monkeys are cute
 
You're throwing MONKEYS on the lake???!!
 
WAT. No. Monkeys are cute
Adams go in lakes.
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6:06 PM
Ah. phew.
You got me worried for a moment
 
many primates can't swim so be careful with Adam, Tristan
 
Dave o/
 
o/
 
I haven't been tired of your shit since last year, I missed that <3
 
Here's to hoping 2019 doesn't disappoint
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6:13 PM
oh damn that's awesome tristan! :)
 
@DaveS 🙏
 
@Mauker lol
 
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maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr‌​rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
6:34 PM
How's it going?
 
Grrrrrr!!!!! ANDROID TEAM!!! >.<
 
good
 
HTF are people supposed to learn anything when this is your documentation - developer.android.com/reference/android/support/test/espresso/…
 
graeme what happened the word guy?
 
People at Google focus their efforts on helping the 95% of people implementing run of the mill apps. They don't seem to care about those who do accessibility or testing
It's frustrating
It would be less frustrating if they didn't keep banging on about your ability to do it anyway
 
6:46 PM
it seems straight forward to me but I've never used it
what's the issue?
 
@Graeme Did you mean CHINA TEAM!!! >.<?
 
xD
 
Dave - I want to know what hasEntry() does on a BundleMatcher
I know what it does and how it does it now because I looked up the source
I'm writing the internal tutorial / docs on how we do automation
turns out that means I actually have to write both documentation and implementation for a whole raft of things
 
ah
 
Because I can't link to basic instructions and source anywhere else :/
Same as I had to do for accessibility because they do a lot of hand waving on what they actually have instruction / documentation / implementation for
 
6:54 PM
My guess is it's because people who will actually implement testing and accessibility A. Are a smaller market and B. Have developers competent enough to read the source if they need more
 
When you're that developer it sucks :(
I don't want to be an accessibility and automation expert :/ they get paid much less
 
And work more
 
Yeah
 
just grab a stick, stir some data around and call yourself an AI expert
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Haha
 
6:57 PM
😂😂😂
 
Mehdi is triggered inside
 
Even reading the source is involving a lot of guess work
 
not at all, I wasted so much time reading peoples posts about AI only to find out that the author has just begun learning and most of their stuff are copy/paste
 
for instance public abstract class BaseMatcher<T> implements Matcher<T> { - T is never used nor documented in this class or in Matcher
So i have no idea what it's supposed to be...
 
T is just a generic type
it can be anything
@TimCastelijns knows more about them than I do but they are used a lot in interfaces that can apply to a variety of classes
 
7:03 PM
I know it's a type... (give me some credit ;P) but how is it used in the implementation of BaseMatcher (which isn't open source)
I have no idea :)
And there is no documentation to tell you
 
lol well you never know
isn't it just the java one?
 
Java one what?
 
As in normal JUnit?
 
yeah
 
7:06 PM
And from reading that documentation, what should you put in T? :D
 
for bundle matcher, your bundle
 
Maybe have found why Android documentation is so poo pants
 
the whole point is you write your own matcher for different types isnt it?
 
Hey, look at the bright side, you could've to do that while working with Ionic
 
So BundleMatch extends BaseMatcher... And I could totally see putting <Bundle> ... but why? What is it used for? Is there Type checking?
It is
Now if I did something like... ObjectMatch<Bundle> that would make sense.
But BundleMatcher doesn't make sense to have a Type argument unless it's used for something... which... it isn't. None of the inherited methods use it.
 
7:09 PM
It doesn't generally it looks like they all return Matcher<Bundle>
 
Like, if Matcher has public boolean matches(T object) {} then it would make loads of sense.
but why :D
 
cause it matches bundles?
 
@DaveS your mom matches bundles.
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XD
 
lol
 
7:10 PM
But you could as easily say new BundleMatcher<Monkeys>() and nothing would go wrong...
Doesn't that make your teeth itch? :D
 
can you? I don't even see a constructor for it
in the docs anyway
 
> public final void _dont_implement_Matcher___instead_extend_BaseMatcher_()
 
everything is a static method
 
That's what I'm saying
Without Docs, how does anyone know what they can or cannot put in as an argument
I would totally guess BundleMatch extends Matcher<Bundle> but I don't know why or what it effects
 
You don't say new BundleMatcher<T> according to the docs
 
7:12 PM
You don't
 
you say BundleMatcher.hasEntry(blah)
 
hasEntry() is a factory - that's undocumented
I mean, like I said, I've figured it out
 
yeah it's not clear
i agree
 
I'm just putting garbage whatever in <T> and assuming it's there for future proofing
But if that's the case put docs up -.-
 
@Graeme Mine is, all the time, it's broken
A tooth only, thankfully
 
7:16 PM
Dentist?
 
I've scheduled it
Actually I already went to one who made an emergency restoration on it, but it's just "duct tape". I have to take some X-rays to check whether or not I'll need surgery
 
But he thinks I will
@DaveS LMAO
My daughter is just like that now
But one of them is growing already
 
my daughter is getting her two bottom teeth and they are like little razors. Hurt my thumb chomping down teething
she's also crawling like a maniac in the last 2 weeks
put up the baby gates/ play pen yesterday
 
it gets worse Dave
before it gets better
 
7:21 PM
Ohhh, she's already there
Time is flying
 
Ah well, if you guys ever need Accessibility or Automation help, let me know :P I've paged it all in for now
 
sure
 
 
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9:45 PM
DevMike requested access. Rep: 657 - Questions: 12 - Answers: 59 (ratio 4:19.7)
 
!accept
 
@DevMike welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
looks like an AI drew that profile picture
 
Ohhh, I used GANs on my thesis
to generate clean sound files from noisy ones
 
I have read and understand the rules.
 
9:52 PM
Welcome!
 
Thanks Mike and welcome
 
The AI learned how to read the rules, @Carl quick, add some captcha
 
#dreamCrushed #firstOfTheYear
 
I'm sure he crushed one at 12:00:01 AM
 
9:55 PM
I mean my first
 
@Mauker @CarlAnderson Thanks guys.
 
welcome mike!
 
@eski happy new year man
 
10:20 PM
happy new year!
 
do humpback whales even celebrate the new year?
 
humpbacks have their own new year but us sperm whales stick to the gregorian calendar
 
10:36 PM
lmao
 
11:00 PM
@eski whoops sorry to assume your species
I'll zoom in next time
 
11:12 PM
please
 
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