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10:00 PM
Because too many of them come here like it's their own country and like everyone should speak their motherfucking stranglish.
 
Also, do borrowed words count?
 
@sbi It's a show about cars hosted by 3 interesting Brits.
 
The problem doesn't usually appear with other nationalities.
 
sbi
@Cicada With this I sympathize to a certain extend. You are, however, also famous for dissing everyone who makes an effort, but still isn't good enough for you.
 
If I went anywhere, I'd be speaking English, too.
 
10:00 PM
Indeed. But please, France != Paris.
Parisian people are dicks.
The rest of France dislike them. With passion.
It's actually an insult :D
"Sale parigo"
 
@Cicada It's always funny coming across people who have literally no understanding of geography
 
Like it or not, it's the international language.
 
sbi
@Cicada Merde. (Interestingly, swear words are always the among the first ones all foreigners will learn.)
 
Ell
@Cicada everyone should speak english :L
 
@CatPlusPlus Doesn't mean you have to be a douche, kurwa.
 
sbi
10:01 PM
@Insilico Merkins?
 
@Ell Why?
 
@sbi No, just dumb people in general. :-P
 
Speaking not-your-own language is being a douche?
 
Ell
@Cicada because it is a language everybody knows
 
@Ell Really? Really?
 
10:02 PM
I certainly don't mind if someone comes here and asks me something in English.
 
sbi
@Insilico Merkins? I'll keep my mouth firmly shut. :)
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't mind either, tbh. I just hate the conquerer attitude.
 
It's stupid attitude.
 
Ell
@Cicada I'm not one of those people that speaks english in france for the record, I always try my best to speak the language but I think that it would be most helpful if everyone spoke english
 
sbi
10:03 PM
@Cicada Well, except for some backwards farmers in the Provence, that is. :b
 
Mandarin has most speakers due to population size of China. English has most speakers regardless of the country.
 
We're not asking you to speak French, not at all. Just asking you to not act like you don't give a shit about our culture (= the American Syndrome).
@CatPlusPlus Expand the list.
 
I don't even give a shit about my own culture. :.
 
KURWA
 
Ell
@Cicada well I agree with that, what is the point in going to france if you aren't going to embrace the french culture, after all. That is what mayorca/benidorm/etc. is for
 
10:04 PM
@CatPlusPlus This.
@Ell To make money selling things to French people and other economic activities?
 
Also, I am always baffled at how non-english-natives make much more effort at being understood than the UK and US faggots.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus We know your Polish. :-o
 
@Ell You don't get my point.
 
Ell
@DeadMG I assumed tourism, but yeah you're right
 
@CatPlusPlus I'd like to find out what you do give a shit about?
 
10:05 PM
@sbi I know my Polish, too.
 
Ell
@Cicada No I don't :/
 
@TonyTheLion This chat. :3
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus :(
 
oh wow
 
I'm certainly OK with strangers not speaking a word of French (my country is very cosmopolit). I'm not OK with them acting as cowboys.
 
10:06 PM
So, you just don't like Merkins.
 
@Cicada so what are you doing in this chat?
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Do not give us the shit!
 
Ell
I have never known people to act as "cowboys" so I can't sympathise
 
Should've started with that. :P
 
we're all a bunch of cowboys :P
 
10:06 PM
Depends the kind of merkin.
 
I'm a catboy.
 
Ell
I only visit non-tourist spain so there are no cowboys there :L
 
Not all merkins are dumbasses.
A lot are, though.
 
Duck is mooing.
 
I'm sorry, referring to Americans as Merkins is no different from calling Microsoft as M$. It's just fucking stupid.
3
 
10:06 PM
@sbi hmm
"they are never found during name lookup", that is incorrect. If they would never be found during name lookup, you could never define a constructor out-of-class, befriend a constructor or inherit a constructor. They don't have a name, but that does not imply that they are never found during name lookup. Constructors are found by using the injected class name and making it refer to the constructor(s) as the name-lookup result. — Johannes Schaub - litb 7 mins ago
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion She's trying to... Clamps hands over mouth
 
Plenty of idiots in the world, no matter where.
 
@Insilico Ok. Let's go for amerifags instead.
 
@Cicada You didn't quite understand my point.
 
Ameri-trash
 
10:07 PM
AMURICA.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah but either a) there are more in the US or b) they're louder than the others.
 
I'd go with b.
 
@Cicada Idiots generally are louder than most other people. That's kind of the nature of idiots.
 
my american friend calls me "euro-trash", so I call her Ameri-trash
 
Americans love to boss the world around.
 
10:07 PM
@Insilico Americunts then?
 
no, the American gov't loves to boss the world around
 
@CatPlusPlus Americans U.S. Gov't love to boss the world around.
 
@sbi Do you regret that Germany switched from Deutsche Mark to Euro?
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Is she looking good?
 
@TonyTheLion Big part of the population does too.
 
10:08 PM
@sbi Sure.
 
I donno, haven't spoken to a big part of the US populace
 
@Cicada Actually nobody disapproves of the U.S. Gov't actions more than Americans.
 
only to my few friends I have there
 
U.S. Congress gets like a 9% approval rate from the populance the last time I looked, so it's really bad.
 
And it's not even prime.
 
sbi
10:09 PM
@ManofOneWay I grew up in East Germans. I only got the Deutsche Mark later in my life, and never got so much attached to it. Also, pulling out your wallet and pay with the same money in foreign countries is certainly a big advantage.
@CatPlusPlus Then go with her, despite the silly name!
 
@TonyTheLion Well, with US being the size of half of a continent, it's really not that surprising you didn't speak to large part of its populace. :P
 
@Cicada You still fail to understand the point.
 
@Insilico I'm afraid I'm out of synonyms.
 
@CatPlusPlus true
 
@Cicada I rest my case.
 
10:10 PM
@sbi I was thinking more about the current state of other countries like Greece, I guess you take a big hit because of that. The euro is dropping big time
 
Also I don't hate America, nor its citizen. I hate stupid people.
 
sbi
@Insilico Most of them, however, disapprove those acts that most of the rest of the world agrees with — and vice versa.
 
@sbi "go out" is the phrasal you were looking for. :P
 
inb4 "what's the difference?"
 
stupid people are stupid.
@Cicada you been there?
 
10:11 PM
@Cicada You're stupidist!
 
@Cicada this is not 4chan
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@sbi Well yeah. But that's true for any two countries.
 
@TonyTheLion Never. I hope I will some day.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus No, I wasn't looking for it. I hadn't mislaid it, after all. When we were teens, having your first gf/bf would be "to go with someone". I'm still attached to that phrase.
 
@CaptainGiraffe You're a faggot.
 
10:12 PM
@Cicada yea definitely worth a visit :)
newfags
 
@CaptainGiraffe It's not?
 
I won't go near USA until they get rid of that silly "oh gawd you must be terrorist" attitude.
 
@Cicada Thank you for placing the apostrophe at the correct location.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Your welcome.
 
@CatPlusPlus I think you might not make it then... sadly to say
 
sbi
10:12 PM
@Insilico I was, however, not speaking of two countries.
Anyway, I don't agree to all this bashing of Americans. I have to admit, though, that there is some truth in it.
 
@Cicada lol
 
@CatPlusPlus I would like for the US Gov't to get rid of the "OMG TERRORIST" ethos too.
 
@Insilico Is there anyone besides them to actually believe it's a good thing?
 
@sbi Yeah, although almost all of it can be attributed to U.S. Gov't, not to the citizens.
 
10:13 PM
Maybe you should just revolt or something. :P
 
@sbi Having been around quite a few Americans, I'm afraid I have to agree.
 
I would like for US Immigration to stop treating all visitors like they're criminals, but that probably ain't gonna happen either.
 
@TonyTheLion I don't like travelling anyway, so whatever.
 
@CatPlusPlus REVOLT!
 
@sbi that's fagot, not faggot
 
10:14 PM
@CatPlusPlus oh
 
sbi
@Abyx Nitpicker!
 
@JerryCoffin Any of them from the "Bible belt" states?
 
Ell
I love faggots, the food I mean
 
@TonyTheLion Considering how much the government has gotten into the habit of treating its own citizens as criminals, I don't foresee it treating visitors much better.
 
Really, I'm not bashing anyone, just jokin' around.
 
10:15 PM
@JerryCoffin unfortunately.
 
God In His Infinite Love And Might Created Us All.
 
@JerryCoffin +1
 
Then He Created The Higgs Boson, Which Shall Be Named God's Particle Forever.
 
I wish people aren't afraid of firing other people.
 
Capital Letters In Every Word
 
10:16 PM
Human cannon?
 
Saints Row 3.
 
@JerryCoffin it's fairly off putting as a tourist, that when you get off the plane, the first thing you have to do is deal with a grumpy immigration officer, whom doesn't really want to let you in, and is trying very hard to find a reason not to.
 
@Cicada It would be an improvement. :-P
 
And Higgs shed a tear. "I did not think this would come in my lifetime."
"
 
sbi
@Insilico No, that's not true. See, I actually spent a few months (8, in fact) in the US. I was traveling some of them, working others, and stayed in motels, youth hostels, and family homes. From that, I conclude that there is some truth to this whole thing, and it applies to the people, not the government they elect. (In fact, your almost proverbial hate for your own government is just another reason the rest of the world shakes their heads about you.)
 
10:17 PM
The few Americans I know (USA people) are actually very friendly and open.
 
@sbi I don't quite understand the phrase in the parentheses. Are you implying that I'm somehow responsible for what the U.S. Gov't does?
 
They're just very a) willingly stupid and b) interested by money.
 
@Cicada I had the same experience, besides immigration
 
Ell
@Insilico you are responsible for what the government does, you vote, right?
 
sbi
@Insilico I refuse to consider this as a serious question.
 
10:18 PM
@Ell No. Not until I see a competent politician.
 
@Insilico A few, I'm afraid. For that matter I live only a few miles from the "New Life Church" (the one whose pastor, after years of lambasting gays and drug users was, a few years ago, dismissed after being caught with a gay prostitute, and in possession of some illegal substances).
 
> competent
> politician
pick one
 
@Insilico you have false hopes my friend
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, it's a pipe dream.
 
Ell
One has no right to complain about the government if one doesn't vote
 
10:19 PM
@JerryCoffin I don't know how to react to this.
 
hey tony
 
@Ell What do you do when the choices you have are between what's essentially a douchebag and a turd sandwich?
 
@DeadMG hey
 
Ell
@Insilico start your own party :L
 
@JerryCoffin The Daily shows response to that was truly beautiful.
 
10:20 PM
was one of the people who contacted you a "Nigel Ramana"?
 
When in doubt, shoot people.
 
sbi
@Cicada IME, there is an incredibly huge difference between Americans who have lived abroad (and be it only 6 months in Canadada), and those who had never left the country (except for two-week holidays, that is). I'm not sure leaving the country is the reason for the difference, but there certainly is a very strong correlation.
 
@JerryCoffin For some reason those states have the most crazy people. I have no idea why.
 
@DeadMG nope, but there's Sooo many of them
 
@Cicada Most politicians are competent -- but mostly at fleecing their constituents.
 
10:20 PM
well, previously you said that some of them were junk
 
@sbi s/Americans/any person/
 
so I figured I'd run the names by you in case you had bad dealings with them
 
@DeadMG some of them are junk
 
@Ell I'm not old enough. :-(
 
Hey, I never left my country and I'm cool.
 
Ell
10:21 PM
@Insilico if you are old enough to vote you are? aren't you?
 
@CatPlusPlus Have you ever moved.
 
@Ell No, what I meant is that I'm not old enough to be president. :-P
 
@DeadMG you'll know when you have someone that really wants to help get you a job, cause they'll make a very decent attempt at getting you at least an interview, and they'll generally be fairly fast about it
 
@sbi I can confirm this 100%.
 
10:22 PM
Because if you want something done right you do it your damn self.
 
yeah
 
@CatPlusPlus Moving as in changing cities.
 
sbi
@Cicada No, that's not true. I haven't found this correlation anywhere in Western Europe. (And if there was such a correlation in the few parts of Eastern Europe I have seen, it's the opposite.)
 
he sent me an email basically because I hadn't finished dealing with my CV (insofar as I have one) and such things
 
@Cicada Yes.
 
10:22 PM
asking for more information
 
@CatPlusPlus Okay. Well that's better than nothing!
 
A lot of the people who work abroad are people like university students or faculty, who by virtue of being at a university are smarter than the typical citizen (at least here in the States)
 
give them your CV, and see what their response is (if they already respond), oh and never wait for one recruiter or job. Always keep looking.
 
@sbi Well I have! All the people I know that have lived abroad (abroad as in, not Europe) are much more open minded and, somehow "smart" than the rest.
 
Being university student doesn't mean you're smart.
 
10:23 PM
"smart" isn't the right word, I can't translate properly.
 
It means you managed to get into university.
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, will do
 
@CatPlusPlus But would you agree that you're likely to be smarter than the average person?
 
@Cicada His faithful followers reacted as usual: with denial. They (I'm not making this up) came up with half a dozen (or so) people "prayed intensively" over him for a month or so, and then pronounced him "cured".
 
sbi
@Insilico Shrug. So you leave the bible belters to vote, but then complain about the government not doing what you would want them to? Shakes head. Did I mention we consider your attitude there silly?
 
10:24 PM
@Insilico I'm... not so sure.
Maybe a little.
 
@JerryCoffin I find this sad.
 
@CatPlusPlus Must be my pipe dreaming again.
 
sbi
@Cicada Oh, if you exclude Europe from "abroad", I don't know. I haven't thought that through.
 
But then an average person is likely to be a complete idiot.
 
@CatPlusPlus Which makes my point?
 
10:24 PM
Maybe.
Don't make me think too hard dammit.
 
@sbi The political climate is hopeless here, TBH.
 
It's too hot, and trolls don't work too well in heat.
 
@sbi For an American, I don't see why Europe should not be considered abroad
 
@sbi Well, Europe is overall pretty rich except for the silly Poland. I think living in a developing country (South America, Asia) is much more enriching for personal experience. Just my point of view.
 
sbi
10:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus You barely leave your house! How is that cool?
 
@sbi I'm Internet cool.
 
@Cicada Tell that to the Greeks... and the Spanish... and the Irish
 
sbi
@DeadMG We were talking Europeans.
 
Also I go to work every day. :.
 
@CatPlusPlus That's not saying much.
 
10:26 PM
Except weekends.
 
@DeadMG They're immensely rich compared to South America.
 
@sbi OIC. Must have misinterpreted it.
 
Obviously.
I can't not read "OIC" as "oink".
My brain refuses to.
 
@Cicada That's not true. Brazil is now bigger economy than the UK.
 
sbi
@Insilico Yeah, I especially pointed out that I do not consider a causality conformed, only that I saw a strong correlation.
 
10:27 PM
@DeadMG Please do travel there.
 
not to mention that they are still growing strong
 
Rich country != rich citizen.
Oh noes, I just missed an awesome offer ;_; 60€ for 128GB SSD.
 
@Cicada I never figured out exactly what to find it. The idea that being gay is some sort of disease struck me as idiotic. Believing they could change it seemed utterly delusional.
 
@Cicada :You are not coming across as a pleasant understanding person. I understand that is not your goal, but still.
 
@Cicada Dude, that's fucking sweet.
 
10:29 PM
@DeadMG Yeh bitch.
 
@JerryCoffin Me neither. It's just stupid. -___-
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus That's bullshit. Of course, if you have studied, you have proven a few intellectual abilities. Anyone who studied is much more likely to have an higher IQ then anyone who didn't.
 
Meh, SSDs. Not cost effective.
 
@JerryCoffin Well well. Mentalities evolve. What is today accepted as normal wasn't always like that.
@CaptainGiraffe I don't understand what you mean.
 
@CatPlusPlus I differ in opinion here.
 
10:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus Indeed. But hey! Fastie fastie.
 
@sbi Well, here, it means either that or that you're very good at cheating.
 
@CatPlusPlus So which do you think is more likely: the former or the latter sitatuation?
 
@sbi hurr
 
@CaptainGiraffe In terms of money/space.
I don't really feel the need for PERFORMANCE.
 
It's because you never tried.
 
10:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus In terms of making my t60 feeling like an ivy bridge =)
 
sbi
@Cicada He says that you are very hard to endure, sometimes. And he's got a point. (OTOH, you're — supposedly — female, so what did he expect?)
 
@CatPlusPlus Just put the OS/programs on the SSD and your documents on HDDs, if you're worried about losing your crap.
 
@sbi I'm very sharp yes. Doesn't mean I'm not charming.
 
@Insilico Depends on county and uni, I guess. Here about 50/50, maybe more in the latter.
 
That alone would improve the performance of the machine.
 
10:31 PM
Or maybe I'm just tired.
 
@DeadMG While South America has a couple of large economies, most of the wealth is concentrated among a minuscule number of people.
 
@Insilico I'm not worried about SSD dying, I'm worried about my money going into a sink.
 
@JerryCoffin Exactly.
 
@CatPlusPlus I have a sink in my kitchen. You can put your money there.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Shakes head. The ability to cheat is an expression of intellect. Very few species can do that.
 
10:33 PM
@sbi Maybe.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, that would be a high performing sink.
 
@sbi Some bacteria cheat, too.
 
I know that if I ever be in position of recruiting people, I won't pay much attention to degree nonsense.
 
Ell
@sbi what do you mean "cheat"?
 
@CatPlusPlus QFT.
 
sbi
10:34 PM
@Cicada Not consciously, though. Conscious cheating is, thus far, only know from a few primates, from dolphins, crows (and similar species), and from a few species of octopuses and sepia.
 
@CaptainGiraffe If you find me rude/offensive, it's because we're not reasoning on the same level. I'm not trying to offend anyone here. Just being raw. Frenchness. Can't help it.
 
@DeadMG Is that a smiley or an acronym?
 
@CaptainGiraffe "Quoted For Truth"
 
@CaptainGiraffe What the hell kind of smiley would that be? :P
 
@sbi Define consciously :)
 
sbi
10:35 PM
@Cicada Planning beforehand.
 
@sbi What a bad definition!
 
@DeadMG A person with an ear ring on one ear only, with the right arm and right leg amputated?
 
@DeadMG :I was curious, my imagination was running wild.
 
When SSDs get to 1TB for the price of non-SSD 2TB, I might consider buying that.
 
So my task scheduler is conscious.
 
sbi
10:36 PM
@Ell Consciously and deliberately doing something that will lead another individual to see/believe something that is not true/different.
 
@CatPlusPlus Give it a few years.
 
@Insilico lol
 
@Cicada kk, no worries.
 
sbi
@Cicada Shrug. For giving it offhand while typing two other messages, and in the given context, I find it pretty good.
 
Having two HDDs is pain in the ass.
I hate having more than one partition, let alone HDD.
 
10:37 PM
@CatPlusPlus Having two HDD in the ass is a pain, too.
 
@CatPlusPlus You're doing it wrong then. They're supposed to be in your computer, not your ass.
 
sbi
@Cicada Yawn.
 
Ell
the program 'pgp' is in the package 'pgpgpg' for decrypting .pgp files using the gpg algorithm or something, I'm so confusd :L
 
@sbi sheepish grin
 
@CatPlusPlus Your skin toned mpegs can safely stay on the HDDs.
2
 
sbi
10:37 PM
@Cicada How appropriate.
@CaptainGiraffe ROTFL!
 
What.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Porn.
 
@CatPlusPlus Reference to porn. Obviously. What else, anyway.
 
cockles
 
No, I got that.
 
10:39 PM
nearly left my CV without linking to my repo or listing all my lovely SO reputation
 
Why would I waste disk space on porn, of all things?
 
@CatPlusPlus Because you don't want to download them again?
 
cat porn? meh...
 
60Mbps connection.
 
There we go again.
 
10:39 PM
SSDs will improve your life 20GB and up
 
Porn, take 3. Action!
 
@CatPlusPlus But you could be downloading even more skin-toned MPEGs!
 
sbi
@Cicada It seems this subject is inevitable whenever you are here.
 
Not like you need to watch it twice.
Waste of space.
Waste of bandwidth, too, really.
 
agree
why would anyone keep a porn library? it's not like it's got subtle details you missed the first time around
 
10:41 PM
@sbi Okay well. Time to sleep then!
Nightie.
 
@DeadMG I miss Hemingway
 
@Cicada Nite
 
sbi
yesterday, by Cicada
Afk watching gay porn.
 
should i post link to wikipedia page about lenna again?
 
@JerryCoffin Hello!
 
sbi
10:43 PM
@CheersandhthAlf No. They are talking about real porn, not soft porn. Also, chirpie already left.
 
no
 
Not like we've seen it or anything.
 
oh.
well food porn then?
 
sbi
@CheersandhthAlf Wait a little longer, please. I'm gonna go to bed soon, anyway.
 
I've never seen lobsters mating
 
10:44 PM
I have a conceptual question about iterators
 
hmm
 
@Specksynder We're going to talk about C++ in Lounge<C++>? Holy crap.
 
under what section to file my so awesome?
 
@Insilico wtf no wai
 
quick, somebody call the Meta Police!
 
^ Lobsters mating
 
Thanks Alf =)
 
For vector iterators, where does the iterator() returned by 'end()' point to?
 
Call the Meta Navy.
 
10:45 PM
@Specksynder The "element" after the last element.
 
@Specksynder rtfm
 
The emptiness after the last element.
 
(Obviously it follows that you can't dereference the end() iterator)
 
@Specksynder Hello.
 
@Specksynder An unspeakable void, a loneliness that you have never experienced.
 
sbi
10:46 PM
@CheersandhthAlf Isn't that fish some Colisa species? They are sweet water fish. Are there sweet water lobsters?
 
I was wondering how does one implement checking for end() - say a regular iterator is being incremented continually - at some time, that iterator will end up being equal to the end. How does one do that?
 
| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 |
^                                   ^
begin                             end
 
@sbi I'm not lobster expert. In fact I don't like the taste of them.
 
@JerryCoffin, I hope the fire didn't affect you much!
 
@Specksynder I don't understand that question.
for(std::vector<T>::iterator i = v.begin(); i != v.end(); ++i) { ... }
 
10:47 PM
@Insilico, I am implementing my own version of vector iterators
 
@CheersandhthAlf For me a good lobster can make my year. Ok I'm off to Maine.
 
Checking for end is done in client code.
 
(or using one of the functions in <algorithm>)
 
@CaptainGiraffe maybe i've never had the Real Thing
 
@Insilico please typedef the shit out of that.
 
10:48 PM
Unless you're doing validating iterator, then just keep indices there or something.
 
so, I am wondering about how to implement the iterator returned by 'end()'
 
@CheersandhthAlf Might well be. A bad lobster is really bad.
 
@Specksynder Thanks -- and no, not a whole lot. A bit hard to breathe for a few days, but fortunately I live far enough away that I never had to evacuate (barely far enough away -- people about two miles from me were evacuated).
 
@CaptainGiraffe for(auto i = v.begin(); i != v.end(); ++i) { ... } There.
 
int vector[4];
int end = 4;
 
sbi
10:49 PM
@CheersandhthAlf The fish certainly looks like one of those. ICBWT.
 
@Insilico auto is not typedef, you have angered me.
 
@Jerry, happy to hear that! None of my friends were affected too.
 
@Insilico =)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Sorry for suggesting a superior solution to typedefs. :-P
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Neat. That deserves a star!
 
10:50 PM
@Insilico Usually, you should be thinking more in terms of things like std::accumulate or possibly std::for_each.
 
An even superior solution is to use the range for loop.
 
@Insilico For this once, you are forgiven.
 
@CatPlusPlus, what if the vector changes in size after the iterator has been returned?
 
@Specksynder Then that iterator is invalidated.
 
@Specksynder Resizing a vector invalidates the iterators.
 
10:50 PM
@Specksynder I have a few friends who did have to evacuate, but all of them are back home now (none of them their houses burned).
 
It is the user code's responsibility to use the container classes responsibly.
 
You could do an iterator that's not invalidated with some effort, but that's not what standard vector does.
 
sbi
@Specksynder Why are you even attempting to implement iterators when you know so little about them?
 
Mainly because they want non-debug iterator to be just a pointer into data.
And non-invalidating one would have to operate on indices.
 
@CatPlusPlus, how does one invalidate iterators then? They have already been initialized and returned to clients - should the vector hold references to all the iterators it has ever returned, just so it could invalidate them at some point?
 
10:52 PM
And hold a pointer back to the vector, so it'd also be bigger.
 
@Specksynder You don't. If the client uses an invalid iterator, it's their fault.
 
@Specksynder Using invalidated iterators is undefined behaviour.
You don't code for that condition.
 
@Specksynder This is not Stackoverflow.
 
Some libraries go the extra mile to add debugging code to detect use of invalid iterators.
But it's not required (by the C++ standard)
 
Debug iterators are good.
Most standard library implementations have debug iterators nowadays.
 
10:53 PM
@Specksynder No -- you're just not allowed to use the iterator when it's invalid. Keeping track of its validity is up to you (or you use another container that won't invalidate it).
 
k, confession time:
 
You're actually not a giraffe?
 
@CatPlusPlus Captain Giraffe might not actually be a giraffe? Holy crap.
 
I wrote for a poker hand comparison, a sorted hand for( i 0 to 4) if ( at(i) == (at(i+1) +1) to look for a straight
I have the same number of vertebrae.
 
@JerryCoffin, thanks. The std:: container iterators are all built such that they cannot change while iterators for them are still being used?
 
10:57 PM
No.
 
@Specksynder No.
 
Whether iterators are invalidated on resize/etc depends on a container.
 
@Specksynder As long as the specific iterator you're using remains valid, you can use it. The exact conditions that invalidate an iterator vary by container.
 
@Specksynder We need specifics. And we don't like specifics here.
 
And you can't check if iterator is used, or not.
 
10:58 PM
@sbi good :) I'm sure you'll remember I have the same. I didn't actually watch that whole clip. I skipped through. Some hilarious faces of the little girl, though
 
(Well, you probably could, but that's a lot of work and who'd want to do that anyway.)
 
@CatPlusPlus (Not to mention that it makes the standard containers way more inefficient)
 

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