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12:29 AM
For the record, Bait and switch posts are never fun.
"Hey I have this problem"
me: Ok this is how you solve it
"Ok I did what you said and that works. I have this different problem and have edited my question to the point that your answer no longer applies"
me: G@$ damit.
flips table
right...back to our irregularly unscheduled close votes.
 
@Nkosi The consensus of how to handle that is clear: Just rollback the edit which changed the question to invalidate an answer. The consensus is that any user with edit privileges should rollback such edits whenever they see it happen. There's a small caveat: If there are multiple answers which interpret the question significantly differently (or, if in your opinion, the question was obviously unclear), then the answers should have waited to answer until the question was clarified.
In that case, once the question is clarified, a comment should be left on the answer(s) that the question has changed and that the user may want to adjust their answer. However, again, the primary way to handle it is to just rollback the change to the question.
 
 
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5:28 AM
Hmm. looks like I have a poblem with the key between the 'e' and 't'.
 
 
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Best question of the day by a Member for 2 years, 6 months Secure way to exchange sensible data
 
8:16 AM
@VincentMiaEdieVerheyen This isn't the best room to ask that. I suggest looking at the list of rooms and finding one that fits what you're interested in (usually by programming language). This room concentrates on moderation by users of posts on Stack Overflow. So, if you know of a Stack Overflow Question that's off-topic and should be closed or deleted (I doubt you're wanting that to happen to your question), or if you have a question about review queues, etc., then this is a good room to discuss it.
 
9:01 AM
@Makyen I suspect we wouldn't even let them ask us to close it? Because, rules' law.
Though they can still ask us if it should be closed, and one of us can post the request in response to that.
 
9:24 AM
@Makyen Thank you, I have added more info now.
 
10:00 AM
Can some of the C/C++ (sorry) people here have a look at the UDT and advice if that UDT library thing they mention is something worth keeping?
@MartinJames @Olaf your thoughts on embedded-code.
 
@rene I agreed with Lundin's suggestions. It's a confusing, unnecessary tag and should go.
 
Tim
10:59 AM
How much reputation one need to review tag edits? Or is this a moderator only privilege?
 
@rene Thanks, I support the process.
 
Tim
@rene thanks
 
yw
 
@MartinJames There is still which seems to serve a similar purpose.
 
 
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1:33 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Killer - nomen est omen.
 
1:45 PM
@Olaf: my Latin is a little rusty
Ah, "the name speaks for itself"
 
2:05 PM
Hmm. would you call this a programming algorithm Q, or just geometry? stackoverflow.com/q/51001814/758133
@HovercraftFullOfEels lol, what would OP consider a complex app?
 
2:20 PM
@MartinJames That looks like a programming question to me. From the tags and the exchange in the comments, it looks like they actually wanted to use OpenCV but couldn't figure out how to get it working. They just wrote the question in a way that makes it way more broad than "how do I do this using OpenCV".
OpenCV was in the original question title too.
 
@Radiodef I'm not sure what to do with it, so I guess I'll 'skip':)
 
@MartinJames I know. Just a simple program that emulates Google Maps in real time.
 
3:06 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yepp. Sorry, such phrases are strongly anchored in my mind. I use them automatically. But, hey, google to the rescue ;-)
@MartinJames Clearly a math problem, but also "unclear", as there is no infomation given how the endpoint of that line should be calculated (which might be OPs problem). If he has no more information (homework?), he should ask his tutor/boss/whoever.
@Radiodef I disagree. That's an underdetermined math problem ^. But feel free to CV as "unclear".
In addition it's tagged with 3 different programming languages, which makes it also too broad.
 
3:34 PM
@Olaf I don't agree with that analysis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… but I'm not against closing the question as e.g. "too broad".
 
@Radiodef It's been vandalized once. Don't see any point in persevering with it once that has happened once, (may happen again). May as well just get rid of it.
Owait - it has an answer:(
 
How was it vandalized? I don't see anything in the revision history.
Also, I wonder why the answer has a downvote.
 
@Radiodef Revision 5:(
 
I only see up to revision 4. I wonder if it's hidden from me for some reason.
 
@Radiodef Are we discussing the same Q or got crossed over somehow? I'm looking at :stackoverflow.com/q/50510029/758133
 
3:49 PM
I was talking about stackoverflow.com/questions/51001814/how-to-estimate-pose-in-2d since Olaf pinged me about it.
 
@Radiodef Orite, maybe I followed the links back wrong:)
 
4:00 PM
@Radiodef Unfortunately, Wikipedia alone often is not a good reference for such discussions. See the answer, it's clearly a (more or less) simple math/geometrfy problem as @MartinJames proposed. The fact they showthe algorithm is pseudocode is a non-sequitur, as every algorith uses some kind of "code" of course; that's the basis of mathematics and has been true since centuries for obvious reasons. Opposite: programs are implementations of algorithms and OP is not even clear about the language.
@Radiodef: Sidenote: when replyingto a post in chat please use the reply-function, not just ping the user. It's getting problematic to follow the trace otherwise.
@MartinJames Yeah, and that's pure math.
 
@Olaf Like this?
I don't use chat very often so I don't know the features well.
 
@Radiodef Yes.
 
@Olaf Thanks.
 
@Radiodef That would have avoidedf the missunderstanding by @MartinJames ;-)
@MartinJames: The vampires are on the loose again.
 
That's true.
@Olaf Just curious, would you make a similar argument that this question stackoverflow.com/questions/50970319/… is off-topic as well, i.e. that since it asks for pseudocode of GCD it's essentially a math-only question?
 
 
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5:29 PM
test
 
5:52 PM
@Radiodef "how to solve manually the extended euclidean algorithm of gcd(14,100)" - unless you consider every execution of an algorithm as programming related, yes. Of course one could see the brain as a CPU emulator and the question asking to trace the execution. But imo this is pretty far-fetched. We did similar things at school (although we mostly "developed" the algorithms together with our teacher, then verified it by single-stepping).
Btw. the question does not ask for pseudocode as I read it, but provide the trace (i.e. "explain this algorithm").
 
@Olaf Alright. I guess I don't see a problem with that sort of reasoning, but I've never seen anyone make that argument before. (And I think the attached image is what asks for pseudocode. That question had other problems.)
 
6:09 PM
@Olaf, @Radiodef, Asking to solve a problem only for a specific set of data (instead of a general case) is off-topic because the use case won't be useful for anyone else in the future. So the question would have been boiled down to "How to implement the extended euclidean algorithm for GCD?"
 
@Cœur What would you close it as? "Too localized" doesn't exist anymore.
 
I mean I would edit the question to make it more general. Without editing it, then I would close it as "This question was caused by a problem that can no longer be reproduced [...] this one was resolved in a manner unlikely to help future readers."
 
@Radiodef Question have toe be self-contained. Text shall be in the question itself, not in an image or external links. hence I don't follow links. So, yeah, if you don't go with me about that argumentation, I'm ok with "unclear" or TB, too. Closed is closed. Point is, I close for the most overal reason; painting a turd is just lost time.
@Cœur @Radiodef: Please see the image again. It's part of a larger test which apparently provided the algorithm in pseudocode. 1) Pseudocode is not realted to programming per-se, it's just a formalism to describe an algorithm in maths. 2) it's not about implement the code, but "run" it manually, which is also normal math and common in tests.
@Cœur That#s a homework or post-exam question without any effort. Even if it was in any way related to programming, it was off-topic here. Making it even broader is also the wrong direction. If aynthing, it should have been made specific. But for this question, it's polishing a turd; you just cannot make this any way on-topic while keeping the question itself.
 
 
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8:47 PM
@techraf accepted but self-answered. Doesn't that roomba?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre No.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yes.
 
@techraf I like how that person is complaining about downvotes on their question about their car's mp3 player.
 
8:53 PM
@Radiodef that certainly helps ... getting more downvotes
 
They've been on the site for 4 years and wrote answers, so they aren't lost or anything.
 
 

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