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2:02 PM
ouch wth
 
user1596138
lmao the boxes are flawless and you can only tell it's broken when you power it on idek
 
user1596138
Amazon sending another
 
whats more disturbing is that you have clicked a tilted pic
@ndugger I want my website to run on most browsers, most users should be able to see it, that is what i am asking you
 
You need to define "most browsers", and you need to learn what a "polyfill" is
 
chrome, firefox, edge, safari atleast
opera
 
2:10 PM
guys, recompose is sweet, don't have to have any logic in components anymore
 
@KingTut Opera is just a reskinned chrome these days. Firefox, Chrome, and Edge are all "evergreen", meaning that they generally update themselves and support the most recent JS. Safari is garbage; good luck with that.
 
@ndugger please tell me is it better to manually learn polyfill or use jquery
 
You don't "learn" polyfill. You drop it in your code and just use the API that it fills.
Don't use jquery
 
@KingTut read this: Polyfill (programming)
 
Ok one last question, on your website link i found jquery examples to be easy mostly. I will not use it but whats the reason against using it? Does it make things slower
 
2:16 PM
@KingTut if you know js very well, then canvas is easy. svg is kinda different but there are situations where using svg is more appropriate than using canvas. It depends of the requirements
 
@ndugger that's an API quick maths
 
and you did not read the whole page that ndugger has linked you as whole
@Jhawins that surely sucks
 
@Jhawins why did you connect it?
 
I do not order often from Amazon, but did not have gotten a broken delivery so far. There was a package which as somewhat damage, but the content was not damaged
 
hello all,
 
2:18 PM
or it's not visible until you turn it on?
 
is there any way I can check if variable is empty or not in javascript?
 
variable === undefined
 
have you tried turning on then off again?
 
@GenericOverweightProgrammer Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. If you have a question, just post it, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help. If you want to report an abusive user or a problem in this room, visit our meta.
 
@KingTut Relative to like 90% of the examples, jQuery is not easier. It's also a lot slower, and it will teach you really bad coding practices.
You will save your future coworkers a lot of headaches if you just learn JS the right way first
 
2:19 PM
^Resig would disagree with you
 
You can try jQuery later
Resig can go suck a fart
 
whats better, C# or VB
 
that sounds hard
 
No then I am thinkin of not learning jquery at all, is that ok
 
whats better, blue or red?
 
2:20 PM
@GenericOverweightProgrammer why asking that? That depends of the goal.
 
what's better, jQuery or vanillajs
 
blue
 
if you need excel macro's, then VB ofc
 
purple
 
2:20 PM
we can argue why blue is worse than red all day and still not get anywhere, same with discussing programming languages, preferences/goals matter, use correct tool for the job
 
JQuery is a must
 
please select one @Neores
 
Someone please kick hellzone
 
Please guys dont troll with me
@hellzone why
 
i dont troll with u
 
2:22 PM
nah mate, Microsoft basic
 
@KingTut It will save your time
 
it doesn't
 
Pascal
 
> trashfire
I wonder what's that
 
It's what happens when you light trash on fire
 
2:23 PM
unexpected
 
@ndugger I am not idiot but thanks for the opinion, ill first try Js and polyfillings
 
I was refering to hellzone
 
smells like hot garbage
 
smells like jQuery spirit
 
depends what hot garbage your burning
 
2:25 PM
@Neoares Neoares, you do not have to participate in this with that ...
 
@KarelG which message are you referring to
 
ndugger, chill a bit :)
@ Neoares, linked to the message
 
oh, it was a good reference :D
 
yeah nirvana :P
 
2:26 PM
Want me to chill? Fine. Everyone use jquery, it's so good and it will save you time and everyone will love to debug your awful code
 
Alice in Chains > Nirvana
 
most music > Nirvana
 
I agree with you that jQuery should not be used in a lot situations. But your tone is ...
 
Feel free to ignore me if you don't like my "tone"
 
I remember when Smells like teen spirit played on MTV every 25 minutes, meeeeeeeeeeemoriiiiiiiiiiies
 
2:27 PM
he was obviously trolling
 
kids these days don't know MTV played music videos
 
you should be aware of that
 
Them Bones playing on MTV
Jerry Was a Racecar Driver
Talk about off topic
 
having a nice flag war?
I love the smell of abrasive comments and easily offended people in the morning
 
you consume 'm as breakfast right
 
2:29 PM
smells like? hot garbage?
 
don't understand how people can take these things seriously
 
don't understand how people can take these things seriously
 
What's cracking my fellow JavaScripters!?
I'm ready to write teh codez lMaO
 
When you're trying to help point a newbie in the right direction, and someone comes in being all "hurr durr, use this bad thing, because I'm funny", it's really depressing. There's so many awful JS devs out there, and I was just trying to prevent another one from existing.
 
2:30 PM
@ndugger I'm offended jQuery is a beautiful language
 
@ndugger might have been worth a few seconds trying to put it in a non-flag-magnet way though... anyway...
 
@Vap0r I'm not in the mood
 
yeh, poke the bear, that'll help
 
@ndugger I'll get you in the mood
 
I code in c# don't even know why I am here
 
2:31 PM
Nope, bye
 
@ndugger it annoys me too yes. But if you keep it civil, you would convince those newbies more than trolls
 
rip nuck digger
 
Please don't leave we can talk about my angular issues which are definitely not amateurish?
@Neoares be very careful which letters you substitute in his name you can end up getting flagged
 
hm...
o..k..?
 
2:32 PM
i have isseus too regarding JS...mostly in terms of AJAX calls and data storage
 
why would anyone flag
 
why can she flag?
 
@cryophoenix feel free to ask it
 
@cryophoenix what are your issues related to JS?
 
inb4 $.ajax
 
2:33 PM
nothing wrong with that if it is from a legacy code :P
 
lol that's too much faith, inb4 $.get $.post
 
Ok so. I have been making ajax calls on click and populating an HTML table... Works great. But there are certain things within that AJAX call that are used to dynamically generate modal window containing more details
 
... and then?
 
here's the problem. I need to somehow store the extra stuff that is going in that modal so that if someone clicks the link twice, i don't have to make a seperate ajax call AGAIN
 
if there was only a way to store data in javascript....
 
2:34 PM
so if it returns {"a":"foo","b":"bar"}
and i put foo in the table
 
@TravisWhite check LocalStorage API
 
I'll have a ton of these btw....an unknown number
how will i know if the user clicks that row again, the information...
it's a table within a table. Within said inner table is where the link lies to append a modal
 
we wantz code
 
Except it's terrible practice code that generates the UI from the data itself.
i wasted 3 hours yesterday on a fiddle for this and it couldn't be done.
 
2:37 PM
I usually generate my jquery stuff from sql-server statements
 
Geez, look away for 5 minutes...
 
you should try asking a question on the site, there'll be someone that will give you an answer but you'll have to show your code first
SHIBA DETECTED
 
What i'm doing is dynamically generating a table...after that, if user clicks on table row, the hidden detail row becomes unhidden. Inside that detail row, there is a link
...i tried asking
but it got closed.
 
guess why
 
@GenericOverweightProgrammer Where?!
 
2:38 PM
There is absolutely ZERO way of making a small working example
 
you can
 
the way this code is written requires that every function be there.
 
!!tell cryophoenix mcve
 
@Neoares Command cryophoenix does not exist. (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
 
should I use name for group of checkboxes??
 
2:39 PM
@cryophoenix If you would like assistance, please create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable Example
 
...that's the problem. It can't be made minimal
 
focus on the "minimal" part
 
minimal doesnt necessarily mean small
 
then you need to divide your problem in subproblems
 
Basically i'm trying to use react without actually using react. Because i had so many issues getting react installed on dev environment i gave up
tried for 4 days
 
2:40 PM
this may sound stupid but have you debugged it to see what's causing your problem. Like debugged it really hard
 
yes. VERY hard.
 
how much hard
 
Mohs 11
 
and have you gone so far?
 
I once debugged so hard I accidentally put carpenter ants on the endangered species list.
 
2:41 PM
because in the end...
 
IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER
 
@MilanUptech you can use a name for multiple checkboxes. If you want to distinguish between them, you can use the value attribute.
 
ok so the problem is, that every time a user clicks on a row that HASNT had its detail row populated, it populates the detail row with a new ajax call. that ajax call has details that need to be in a seperate modal. But the modal has to be appended to the document whken needed and removed when its done'
 
or data-attribute if you handle the form submit yourself
@Loktar you monster
 
The content of this modal will depend on the row clicked. But. Generating the modal at click-time with data and then remembering that data for a specific row....not sure if it can be done.
 
2:43 PM
is this a web form?
 
now I'm guessing your question got closed cause
 
at least, not within my knowledge. Basically everyone says nesting tables in tables is a bad idea. I'm using jquery's append() method to stick all this stuff on the document and remove it when necessary
 
you should go react
 
i can't install react.
i've tried for 4 days
 
npm install --save react
 
2:44 PM
npm keeps saying half that crap is deprecated
all the dependencies anyway
 
Content Security Policy: The page’s settings blocked the loading of a resource at cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.3.1/jquery.min.js (“script-src”). why this?
 
npm update?
 
and then i update dependencies and it says it needs a new version of a different dependency
or that now that i've updated one, the other one doesn't work
it's a ffreaking circle of hell
 
are you on windows or something?
 
windows 10 yes
 
2:45 PM
Can jqueries store session variables?
 
move to linux
 
...that's not an option
this is a work computer.
 
move to apple
lol dont
 
ahh, yeah, I had a ton of issues with windows shell, I think powershell is better but no point in going back at this point
 
i can't do that either
 
2:46 PM
use a VM?
 
we're not even developing our mobile app when we get that project going for apple
we're just ignoring apple altogether
 
Wait this isn't a web form, my bad
 
developing on an apple doesn't mean develop an apple product
 
i know but i've been provided a Dell
and i'm not the boss here.
 
2:46 PM
oh, I have a dell with linux
but it already came with linux
 
Ive a stupid elitedesk HP computer with like 2gb of ram
 
point is, there's no way to do it. I'm the new guy here. I"m not gonna start breaking things.
 
lol xD
 
can barely run visual studio
 
I"m just an underling here.
 
2:47 PM
mine has 32gb of ram, and 8-core Xeon cpu :P
 
I is a minion.
 
@WathsaraWishwanthaDaluwatta do you control the website? If so, adjust the CSP so that you can use that script. A CSP setting is selected so that you cannot run scripts that does not come from your own domain
 
i have a dell xps 8700 with linux/windows/mac, where there's a will, there's a way
 
tell your boss to come here to the chat
@GenericOverweightProgrammer yep
it's an almost $3k laptop xD
 
2:48 PM
I am on workplacement and have 7 days left with this computer and then Ill probably never visit this website again
I thought 16gb was the highest
 
He's telling me now to ignore the idea of frameworks because i'm actually making so much progress...which is true. i'm almost there. i just need this last step
 
you can run ubuntu in a virtual machine and do all of the command line work from there, not trying to knock you for using windows but I personally ran into problem after problem with very basic stuff until I moved away from windows
 
we've both been through hell and back trying NPM
 
yeah and that is the easiest part about setting up for this type of work, tbh
 
user7909000
What are the tech needed to create a game like diep.io ?
 
2:50 PM
@GenericOverweightProgrammer with a 64-bit system you can run 2^64 bits of RAM
!!> (2**64)/8
 
@Neoares 2305843009213694000
 
those are a lot of bytes
!!> 2305843009213694000/1024/1024/1024
 
@Neoares 2147483648
 
in GB
 
I became a programmer by accident, computers don't interest me but 32gb seems like NASA level to me
 
2:51 PM
@RakeshLal quantum computers.
 
Imagine the power
start wars with 32gb ram
 
@GenericOverweightProgrammer 32 is pretty common nowadays.
 
i'd love to have that much ram for League of Legends xD
 
Pubg full settings
 
of course...the whole...graphics card and refresh rate of my screen...
 
2:53 PM
crisis 1
 
ram won't help much with pubg, it is horribly optimized imo
 
i already get 240 fps on some things but my laptop only has a 60 hz screen. makes sense
 
My computer can barely run windows paint
 
user7909000
Do you understand what ram actually is?
 
the human eye can only detect 12fps, btw
 
2:53 PM
@GenericOverweightProgrammer :D
 
I did am exam on it last year and forgot everything
 
really travis? you try playing l
 
@TravisWhite Yea, no.
 
you try playing league at 12 fps
 
2:54 PM
isn't it not 25fps?
 
That's not how the human eye works.
 
@TravisWhite it's 24 you idiot
 
haha I was being sarcastic, thought it was obvious, was waiting for usual comment that always comes in when talking about framerates
 
the other 36 are interpolated by your brain
 
i can notice a huge difference between 30 and 60, despite the fact we supposedly can't se faster....is it because of the least common multiple thing?
 
2:54 PM
You can distinguish (individual) frames at ~24 fps
 
@cryophoenix I play at 144 fps and I can tell you there's a lot of difference wetween 60 and 144
 
I am a console man, kill me
 
yep. i play at 240 but screen is 60 fps i think..sadlife
 
my screen is 144Hz
 
nvidia 1060 stuck in a dell gaming laptop >.>
 
2:56 PM
games don't really smooth/antialias frames as well as movies do, so 24fps movies look okay, but 24fps games don't, humans can most certainly notice differences in framerates going fairly high
 
I tried running F.E.A.R on my laptop and I haven't been able to turn it on since
 
Got a GTX 1050 in my laptop here :D
 
i broke my old laptop playing four man Zerg game on starcraft 2...
 
@TravisWhite you mean motion blur?
 
also, you have input latency, which we can notice down to like 8ms or something
 
2:56 PM
@TravisWhite The point is that there's a motion blur baked into movies
 
yeah motion blur
 
Movie frames aren't as sharp as game frames
 
it was an intel hd 4000U graphics xD
 
I cant stand motion blur
 
and it was like 5 years old
and we were all deadlocked and all of us decided to make full cap speedlings.
and meet in the center of the map
 
2:57 PM
I only know GTA Vice City. :D
 
@GenericOverweightProgrammer What games show you as fake motion blur is shit.
 
I'm a console gamer so most
 
@GenericOverweightProgrammer Oh, I'm so sorry.
(PCMasterRace :D)
 
no its okay, I'm fine
Dark Souls remaster on Friday though
 
I am happy with the prepare to die edition
 
2:59 PM
Meh, never liked that game
 
I just want to experience blight town at 60fps
dark souls is hyped up to be hard but its not really
 

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