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8:00 PM
coincidence that I show up at the mention of crack?
hmm
 
Given that it's a stimulant I suspect the curve would look more like ritalin's than alcohol's
 
wim
it was discussed ad nauseam in relative imports for the billionth time
 
Perhaps squashed a lot more to the left.
 
@idjaw maybe you fell through?
 
@AshishNitinPatil are you saying I'm riding a high right now and none of this is real?
 
8:03 PM
@wim oh, that looks like a good read. thanks for linking
 
@idjaw Is imaginary reality real?
 
wim
that's before I was even using python
for some reason I thought that was a newer feature
 
nice mod elections then?
 
cbg everyone!
So I learned today that the company I interviewed with on friday decided to pass on me, which makes me really, profoundly sad.
Because I thought I NAILED it.
Alas.
 
8:21 PM
aww did you ask for feedback on why they decided to pass you up?
 
^ most would respond, if they don't, consider it was not something on your end but theirs
anyway, good luck with others!
 
wim
ah, badge, so easy to get. the participation trophy
 
@JGrindal I understand that pain. Take solace in the FACT that companies rarely make the final selection based on metrics that you value yourself on. That means, that your feeling of "nailed it" is based on how well you represented who you are. They determined that who they "think" you are isn't what they are looking for. The conclusion is that you likely didn't want that job anyway (-:

You know your worth, keep your chin up. Keep at it.
 
wim
don't ask for feedback
You won't get an honest reply, and it's annoying to the company to get asked these questions
 
@MooingRawr Yeah I did, but I got "You have a lot of strengths, but we have som e other candidates that we feel were stronger"
 
8:26 PM
@wim Is this your personal experience? Or do you take interviews?
 
@piRSquared Yeah, I just really expected an offer and this was kind of a gut punch.
 
wim
I take interviews
 
But I have another interview tomorrow.
the wheel keeps on turning......
 
I also take interviews, and very much like it when the candidate asks for a feedback. If it's not that great, I usually tell them in a neutral but actionable kind of way.
Same experience in my past 2 companies as well.
 
@wim really? cuz my friends who give interviews doesn't mind giving feedbacks. I guess it depends on the interviewer.
 
wim
8:30 PM
Yeah, guess it depends
 
But I am limited to very young / fresher folks, so maybe it's a different ball-game.
It'd be very awkward giving feedback to someone with 5 or 10+ years experience
 
When I took interviews in previous companies (for supply chain roles), I always liked when candidates asked for feedback, it showed me that they at least cared about the role.
 
I guess you should judge the interviewer and their behavior. If they seem like they don't have the time, or doesn't like to take their time to answer questions, it's best not to ask for feedback. But if they tell you to ask them any questions you may have after the interview is over (not the "do you have questions for us", but the "well we will contact you when we have news, feel free to contact us if you have questions about the process or anything")
all depends on the situation i guess.
 
yeah, lot of factors
 
wim
8:34 PM
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Q: How can I ask my interviewers for feedback following an interview?

TarikRecently, I had an interview with Amazon. At first, things went smoothly and well. After two interviews, they decided not to move forward with the process. I'm the type of person who wants to consistently improve, so I wanted to get some feedback regarding why they decided not to continue the pro...

 
Oh god, I remember when I was looking for my first job, my friend told me to come in for an interview. I finished my interview which went decently well... just to be told that they didn't have a position and they were just interviewing me cause of my friend... :\
 
wim
bahaha
why did your friend waste your time like that
 
good experience in the end? Else, just sweet consideration I'd say.
 
@MooingRawr "friend" =P
 
Idk. I asked him afterwards and he said, well he "thought there was a position". Which I asked if there's a posting somewhere in writing. That's when I learnt that rumors are just rumors in the office lol
 
8:38 PM
oh
 
Honestly it was my 4th person to person interview so I was like eh w.e. Plus that job is at least a 50 minute drive/bus ride so I'm glad there wasn't a position there.
 
@MooingRawr that was completely unexpected lol
 
So how long should a full timer be moving to another job to improve their own career ?
2-5 years or is that already too long ?
 
I have moved each year :-p
3 in total, but currently engaged above the year mark with my current (but that's a bit different)
 
don't you have that feeling where you are scared to lose what you have ? I get risk vs reward argument but still...
 
8:42 PM
But I'd say, whenever you feel your time isn't worth spending in your current company (learning curve, etc.), then it's time.
 
DSM
I seem to spend about five years everywhere. I spent too long at my last position, but it definitely would have been too short if I'd left after two years.
 
k time to move within a year or two from now then
 
@MooingRawr yeah, it's not that great a feeling. But, if you can nail it, there's (likely) a good reward.
 
Trying to avoid using our public transit at all cost, but that doesn't boast well on variety.
 
In my first job, the commute was ~45 mins to an hour (dependent on traffic, Bangalore!!). It wasn't all bad. It was a good experience, that I shouldn't be doing such a thing in the future :-p But, that was the only time I spent on reading books, which was a good value add.
 
8:46 PM
I used to read on the metro but now there's bus replacement and I can't read :(
 
audio books maybe?
 
I read standing in the bus, hard, but couldn't think of anything better to do.
I switched to solving programming competition questions when it was too hard to read. Thinking time.
 
When I was commuting to university, I use to watch anime on the bus.... looking back that might have been a cringe experience, depending on what I was watching I guess.
 
The title of this question
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Q: Dude, where is my Django installation?

Pierre de LESPINAYI use Django but I need to find the default templates and applications. I don't know where it's installed. How can I find that ?

 
Title of my next question "Grokking Feature X"
 
wim
8:56 PM
>>> input('no new line here: ', flush=True)
TypeError: input() takes no keyword arguments
sadbadger.jpg
print('prompt [y/N]: ', end='', flush=True)
input()
^ lame workaround
 
9:54 PM
I need to take a break from SO... time to look at my own terrible code for a change, instead of a random internet OP's terrible code
 
I've listened to that one before
Nice, chill tune
 
Been listening to it for a few hours on repeat. We'll see how long it takes until I'm sick of it and never listen to it again ;)
 
@Aran-Fey I've been subscribed to MrMoMMusic for, like, forever
great channel
 
I liked Laura Brehm's collabs with Feint
 
I only discovered it today. I'll have to browse their uploads later.
 
Huh, for some reason I never upvoted and favorited that video. I'll fix that now...
 
You should check out Porter Robinson's solo material. The Worlds album was fantastic
 
Pretty amazing how much story they managed to fit into just 6 minutes.
 
@cᴏʟᴅsᴘᴇᴇᴅ stackoverflow.com/questions/49244884/… that isn't why I downvoted. I down voted because of lack of clarity. An MCVE acts to not only show effort but add clarity. This is consistent with my close vote. Also, IMO, many pandas questions are at risk of similar voting but only escape it luckily due to mind reading answerers (myself included) who take the risk of wasting their time and attempt to answer anyway.
 
Ah, I see. You may have downvoted before OP edited their post.
when I read the question, it seemed clear enough (there were comments explaining their expected output by the time I got to it)
 
10:56 PM
@cᴏʟᴅsᴘᴇᴇᴅ Further to your comment, how do we know if they have actually attempted anything?
 
11:07 PM
@Simon I can't say for sure with that particular user, but in my experience, roughly ~60% of users attempt something themselves before asking a pandas question.
 
I suppose a lot of good questions don't even have any code anyway (my top voted question having no code either) -perhaps because the OP is not sure how to go about going around the problem, and the lack of reference makes it acceptable to not have shown code. As long as the post does not say: "How can I do this?" followed by a screenshot
 
wim
11:26 PM
can you guys shortlink music videos instead of one-boxing them?
 
The dynamic is a little different with pandas questions, I believe the data is a lot more important.
ok wim, from next time
 
wim
thx
 
I like seeing pictures between otherwise boring text messages
 
@cᴏʟᴅsᴘᴇᴇᴅ If the rest of the community is happy with that it sounds good to me.
 
wim
I read/participate in the Python SO chat at work, which is acceptable (programming related), but the thumbnails of these music videos make it look like I'm in some kind of an anime chat room. It's not a good look for me or, presumably, others that use SO at work.
 
11:34 PM
That's unfortunate
 
:sadface.jpg:
 
@wim Good point. It's still acceptable to post cute cat/dog pics right? (\O/)
 
wim
Yes.
 
Something about developers and cute animals
 
Is it acceptable if rants/arguments randomly pop up on your screen while you're at work?
 
wim
11:38 PM
yeah
 
11:49 PM
@vaultah Will you be running for moderator this time?
 
Too big... Too obnoxious
 
@cᴏʟᴅsᴘᴇᴇᴅ yeah, I decided to lose again :D
 
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