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3:06 PM
I miss the days without bugs (== PHP)
 
3:21 PM
PHP has no bugs?
I find that difficult to imagine
all code has bugs...we just haven't found them all yet.
 
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Q: 2018 Moderator Election Q&A - Question Collection

Grace NoteStack Overflow is scheduled for its tenth election next week, March 12th. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely vo...

 
Wait, it's Moderator Election time? Is Raghav running again?
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> - I'm always tired no matter how much sleep I get, and I'm losing interest in everything. Starting to get concerned.
- Don't worry, you'll lose interest in being concerned, too.
 
raghav will not be running this time
 
will you?
 
3:27 PM
I didn't know that the renaming of Java EE to Jakarta EE was actually serious
 
no way
It's actually serious?
 
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Q: Rename [java-ee] to [jakarta-ee]

Jasper de VriesJava EE has been renamed to Jakarta EE. It is probably a good idea to rename java-ee to jakarta-ee as well and then have a synonym called java-ee pointing to the new jakarta-ee to allow people that are not aware of the name change to still find the tag.

 
> The need to change the name of Java EE arose because while Oracle has handed over the open source version of Java to the Eclipse Foundation, it says that the names 'Java' and 'javax' aren't part of the handover. The Java EE Guardians and the developer community originally wanted the name Java to be kept somewhere in the brand, but in the end put forward the two alternatives of Jakarta EE and Enterprise Profile.
they didn't really have a choice
 
@MehdiB. no chance lol
 
why? you've been doing a great job on the Android tag
 
3:31 PM
it takes a lot more than that
 
Tim is still a greenfish
 
I don't qualify for the position, nor would I want it, nor would the community want me
 
not sure about the last part, but you'll have way more work on SO for sure
 
how many of you switched to Kotlin? and if not, why not? :)
 
I did
 
3:34 PM
closing and deleting bad questions is just the very tip of the iceberg. There are many gray area scenario's and edge cases you have to be confident in knowing how to handle them without upsetting people
 
> nor would I want it
But we all want you, the Lord of the Realm, to lead us
 
only if he starts handing out bounties again
 
I also switched to kotlin. It is majestic
 
Have you tried realm on kotlin, Tim?
 
in my case, I can't, too expensive for my client
 
3:36 PM
no I haven't used realm for a couple of months now
 
We should nominate Tim to run
lol would be funny if he won despite not wanting to
 
#makeSOGreatAgain
 
yes, would be funny seeing him kicking the ones who nominated him against his will out of this room :D
 
it doesn't work like that noobs
 
hahaha
 
3:38 PM
Are you underestimating the power of the nerds?
 
no, you guys simply don't seem to be aware of how these elections work lol
 
I nominate Timothy, the ol' Realmer. For he is the lord paramount of all of our realms. Defender of data persistence, sword of room15, first of his name. <include src="@r15/timTitles" />
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lol
can you at least include my previous titles
 
Nothing changed from Oracles point of view that I can see. They are still marketing Java EE as their property.
 
Done
 
3:48 PM
doesn't change the fact that I stepped down so that mark could take the lead
 
Okay
 
Mehdi are you still flexing
 
I nominate Mark O' Realmer. For he is the new lord paramount of all of our realms. Defender of data persistence, sword of room15 not a RO, first of his name, <include src="@r15/markTitles" />.
 
Murat - I didn't find any good question since yesterday, I'll allocate 1h tonight
how do you look for good questions? you just browse the Java / Android / JS / TS tags?
 
you can put multiple tags into the search
I have it opened on my second screen I watch it from time to time
 
4:00 PM
Nice, I didn't you could put ORs on tags
I should do the same for the screens, not to get entirely dedicated to searching
 
👍
 
@TimCastelijns you're stepping down?!
Right that's it
 
4:17 PM
it's been a while since I've been really stuck on something, it's a good feeling, but also a shitty one reminding you of the noob days :D
 
damn mod elections again?!
holy shit where did the time go
 
@MarkO'Sullivan And I was here thinking that when you guys promoted Tim to RO it meant Realm Owner... How naive I was.
 
I feel like it was just a few months ago
he is both
he's realm and room 15 in one person
 
30 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
doesn't change the fact that I stepped down so that mark could take the lead
 
a man of great talents
 
4:18 PM
true leadership
 
true timmanship
 
Now he's nothing but a bot. A Tim man.
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he's not yet another bot
if he's a bot then he's those boston dynamics kinda bots
 
A cyborg maybe?
 
the ones you can kick but like they don't care
and just stand up again and kick you back
kick back hard
 
4:22 PM
nice one mauker, he only needs a heart
 
Makes sense
 
lmao
Silicon valley is the new "we got a XKCD for that"
 
can't imagine how it's going to be like without Erlich
 
nah
I never liked erlich
but yeah it's going to be different
 
4:27 PM
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for me it's:
- Gilfoyle
- Erlich
- Dinesh
- Jian Yang
Murat - XD
 
Erlich all the way
 
@Code-Apprentice i need your magic tricks
or well, anybody with good marks at trigonometry
 
@Ahmad You never liked @Eric ?
The poor man
 
lol
@MehdiB. go for js tags
free reps
 
4:36 PM
thanks, gonna take a look
 
i dont know js sadly otherwise would have gone for rep hunting
android and java are mostly shitty tag now
 
not really
 
@CptEric I'm here. Do you want to ask in chat or what?
@ColdFire JavaScript ain't much better
 
I've started answering React questions lately. I still don't know enough to answer very many.
 
4:42 PM
oh the author of that lib is there
 
yeah CA
 
@CptEric Look at your Q. It's got a pretty detailed answer.
 
i looked at it
 
from the author of the lib you are using, no less.
 
but the answer didn't work
:D
see my comments
 
4:44 PM
<noob>
Is it possible to set a subtitle on a collapsing toolbar?
</noob>
 
yup
 
How?
 
i think there is a method for that
 
me is getting this by following the answer
 
4:45 PM
setSubTitle();
 
the marker should be on the tiny red dot
 
I've tried to set it on the supportActionBar, on the toolbar itself, and when I collapse only the title remains
there's no subtitle method on the CollapsingToolbarLayout, only the title
 
strange i remember something like that
or did i do some custom shit for that
 
So do I, but I really can't recall how
 
i got 590 in android tag
410 to go
 
4:48 PM
I have something close to 400
 
so in 2-3 years time i will have a hammer
 
Why wait? Start answering today
 
@Code-Apprentice wanna se my code? can share a gist
 
sigh android tag is too crappy for me
my patience level aint that high for shit
 
Oh yeah, I'm sorry mr. good code
<3
 
4:49 PM
@CptEric sure. I won't have time to look at it right this minute, but I can look at it later tonight or tomorrow.
 
lol
 
But you're right, there A LOT of crappy questions there
 
its not about good code but the quality of questions is really getting lower and lower
 
I know, I was just teasing you
And I agree.
And it seems it's not possible to set a subtitle
I'll think of something else
 
4:55 PM
you delivered your thesis Mauker?
 
okay easier question
Given a latitude and longitude A (origin) and a latitude and longitude B ( destionation )
how can i rotate B N/-N radians around A?
 
@MehdiB. Nope, I'm screwed
More on that later
 
:/
 
(Jk, I can still do it, but I'll have to hurry next couple days)
 
lol
 
4:58 PM
you should :D
 
Well it turns out RN-Maps is broken on Android API 25+, custom markers not working as expected at all
 
Time to go
Cya later!!! :D
 
Cya
 
Cya Wompah
@MarkO'Sullivan Who needs custom Maukers?
 
cya womp
lol that reminds me of Mauker Marker joke i did
 
5:03 PM
@Mauker a lot of apps
 
lmao mark
 
@ColdFire That's exactly why I said that hahahaha
 
Where is the libs directory in projects? seen posts online that it's supposed to be under apps, same level as build and src
 
change structure to "project" instead of "android"
 
May 15 '17 at 21:11, by Cold Fire
mauker stop changing your datatype already
 
5:07 PM
@MarkO'Sullivan was reading through your blog on swiping recyclerview items. its was good..
 
o/
 
@Raghunandan ...but? Come on, don't keep me in suspense :(
 
why would i do that?
 
oh yeah i forget to read marks blog
o/ dave
 
5:10 PM
May 15 '17 at 21:24, by Dave S
We should make a room-15 language, all loops use a mauker variable. All encryption is done with an Adam variable but sometimes your key will get deleted.
lmfao^
 
@Raghunandan Oh :D I thought you were gonna say something bad about it because you ended your message with '..' lol
Thank you :)
 
no. i would not do that :)
 
@TimCastelijns still not there?
 
@ColdFire We left it as "mauker" on the lib
 
@MarkO'Sullivan your post is good , 40 claps and a share on my fb page from me :)
 
5:12 PM
mark its there when you switch to project
lol nice mauker
 
Yeah I'm in project atm, i'll share a screenshot
@Redman thank you!
 
I need some opinions
 
@MarkO'Sullivan sorry bruv was in a call with USA
 
In your view, what are 5-10 good topics to start someone with for Android development.
I have a tutorial, but I'm not sure if a database is too "in-depth"
I have an hour, and I'm not sure what I should go over.
 
fragments, bluetooth, proguard, support library, realm
 
5:17 PM
Ola
Cute icon netpowk
 
@TimCastelijns Yeah, that's all it supports
 
you wanna make a bluetooth tutorial to a android newbie ?
that's how people get to hate languages
 
@TimCastelijns FUCKK
Wait no, this is okay
This will require a rewrite of some code, but ultimately it'll be okay
breathes
@Mauker over my Spring break, wanna get in a call and finish up some ChatSE stuff and talk about the changes we'll need to make due to OpenID being deded
 
@CptEric He can make the Bluetooth section with a single line of information: Don't.
@TristanWiley When's it going to start?
 
103
Q: Support for OpenID ends on July 1, 2018

Joe FriendStack Overflow was an early and strong supporter of OpenID. We built our sign up/log in flow around it. We were idealistic and had high hopes, but these hopes weren't realized. Over the years people have wondered if OpenID is dead. We've had to remove support as OpenID providers pulled support or...

So I'm actually not sure
This might affect us
 
5:21 PM
This will affect us
 
Will it?
 
relying on open id was never a good solution anyway
 
I mean, we had no other options
So they added a way to add a simple email and password to accounts
That might work, I'll need to look at their api
 
I feel like Dave should handle the management of this project
 
lmfao this doesn't affect us
Okkay
So
 
5:24 PM
lmfao
 
I went to the Stackoverflow login stackoverflow.com/users/login
If you use the sign in with email
We basically just need to scrape the page, get the fkey, take their login, and login. Then we use the cookie as normal
 
That's exactly what I told you to do the last time you bitched about open id
 
Proof or gtfo
 
Wtf AS?
 
You said Google login I thought
 
5:26 PM
AS suddenly started to show my cardviews with a black background color
when I run the app they look as white as they should, but the preview went nuts
 
Feb 14 at 22:07, by Dave S
no but you can use the cookie manager to access the local auth tokens of an inapp webview
 
Feb 14 at 22:04, by Dave S
can you show the SO login and intercept the cookies?
I didn't even see this one
We don't really need to use a webview, I mean we can. We were skipping that and just using the API directly.
For that I thought you were talking about Google/Facebook auth
 
if they have an api to login why the fuck were you using open id in the first place
 
I don't think they always did?
Maybe?
idfk
 
5:28 PM
Tristan you lied to me :(
 
I'm gonna pass this blame back all the way to Anubian
 
yeah, blame the hamster
 
lmao
 
If you have a StackOverflow account you by default have an SE one... right?
 
5:33 PM
If you guys worked for me you'd be doing push ups right now to atone for your sins
I believe so
 
Yeah
 
Sweet
 
I thought that cat was butternut
 
lmao dave
 
 
5:34 PM
@Mauker check the theme of the preview
 
Wait
wat
Wait
Wtf
oh
so
wat
So for StackExchange we're still forced to use OpenID. But for StackOverflow we can use the new way?
I expect this fragmentation from Android, but this? This is ridiculous.
 
@ColdFire Changed to almost all of those, still black.
 
oh
my
fuck
Guys
 
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I'm so confused
 
5:38 PM
@DaveS XD
 
Does StackExchange still plan to use OpenID?
For StackOverflow we never used OpenID. We only used it for SE which doesn't have any alternative options.
 
We can't use oauth lol
 
why not?
 
you certainly can, if you use the built-in flow of SO, and copy the client IDs, it will be redirected to SO's endpoints and let their server handle the rest
not sure if that's legal though
 
5:42 PM
It's "legal" just would get our app taken down lmfao
 
ah :D
 
why don't you authorize with the javascript sdk the way they meant for 3rd parties to auth with stack exchange, grab the cookie and then interact with the api?
 
What JS sdk?
 
3
Q: What is client_id in the Stack Overflow OAuth API?

user3772522Where can I get client_id for Stack Overflow OAuth? There is not much information about client_id here.

 
I don't think it needs to be that complicated
 
5:46 PM
I don't see how it's more complicated to register your app as a stack exchange app, show a url, let the user login and use the response to auth
 
Because it doesn't give us what we want?
 
so you don't want to "Get an access token for (and optionally the identity of) a user with a call to SE.authenticate(options)"?
 
then what do you want Tristan?
 
prettiest babies ever
 
5:52 PM
lmao classic tristan
 
Are you saying use oauth and capture the cookies?
 
f used oAuth the SO server will drop the cookies - if you use their webview - then you can retrieve the cookies
 
The user is redirected to redirect_uri, with these parameters in the hash
access_token
expires - optional, only if scope doesn't contain no_expiry
 
Access token doesn't give us anything we need
 
it's not the same as fkey?
 
5:55 PM
Uh, afaik no
Also, either way the fkey isn't all we need
We need the cookies too, for other reasons. Iirc
 
then i would show this url and insert javascript to capture what you need
 
That uses openid
 
maybe just do SO chat then
 
That suggest converting from (lat, long) to (x, y, z), do the rotation, then convert back to lat, long.
 
@TimCastelijns I forgive you
 
6:11 PM
posted on March 07, 2018 by Android Developers

Posted by Dave Burke, VP of Engineering Last week at Mobile World Congress we saw that Android's ecosystem of developers, device makers, and silicon partners continues to bring amazing experiences to users worldwide. Looking ahead, today we're sharing the first developer preview of Android P, the newest version of Android. It's an early baseline build for developers only -- you're ou

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what if you just inserted css to make the desktop chat website responsive
 
my money is on Peppermint
or PecanPie
 
peppermint or popsicle
 
popsicle is too much like lollipop
Parfait
 
I like peppermint. Peanut butter cup is another possibility.
 
HOLY
NN on NDK???
That's huge!
@MehdiB. take a look at that ^
 
I think Popsicle. Or peppermint. But probably Popsicle.
 
@Mauker And Android P has some update to the NN API
 
Amazing CA
My advisor will love that
 
6:24 PM
I need to find some time to check it out...
 
I'm gonna make all my apps use NN to farm crypto coins for me
and google will never find it because it will be layered under like 1000 auto generated if statements #machinelearning
 
P FOR PEENUS
oops caps lock on
 
@Mauker nice!! :D you saw Tensorflow Lite ?
 
I haven't!
That should be a pain to train
But maybe it's possible to run my pretrained DNNs
 
@DaveS that's a good idea...add crypto farming to my baseball card app.
 
6:37 PM
I have no idea how that works on Android, but I've been meaning to learn the regular tensorflow first which should be painful enough, then add the Android hell to the stack :D
 
com.samsung.definitely.not.mining.crypto permission
 
The new Android will be called... Android, plz.
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"Indoor positioning with Wi-Fi RTT" - this is a lie. There arent many APs that support 11mc
 
I might try Tensorflow lite when I'm too happy in my life, and need to darken it a little bit
 
try it in cordova
 
6:39 PM
hahaha
 
On an old phone
 
don't wanna have a nervous breakdown neither :D
 
with a wasted battery
 
@Feeds Tired of your shit Dave Burke, VP of Engineering
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LMAO
 
6:40 PM
and a ldpi and screen full of scratches on Android 2.3
 
@Reno there will be in the near future, I'm sure
 
maybe but they may blotch the implementation. for example WiFi RSSI reporting was so badly implemented among the various vendors - it is one of the main reason they are using RTT now
Supporting the picosecond unit is different from having picosecond accuracy
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7:03 PM
The last two are sooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute
 
I'm going to go full @W0MP3R here.
so cute
 
sooooooooooooooooo cute!~ XD
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Ok Dave, you win
 
it annoys me that Android Studio will auto magically add final to variables I didn't declare final because I tried to use them in a listener once
 
7:14 PM
@TristanWiley Catmera
 
yesss
 
you scare me dave
 
8:14 PM
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It's ok to use single moms like that @AdamMc331 ?
 
Adam McNasty amirite?
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lmao
 
8:29 PM
wow
 
Wait buddy, I got you
Oct 23 '17 at 16:52, by AdamMc331
I feel attacked.
 
censored
 
PFFFFFFFFF
FOR GOD SAKE DAVE
 
Once i thought of that, I needed to share it with someone
 
JavaEE is an ocean, you just can't understand something without understanding 50M other concepts
 
8:35 PM
You mean Jakarta
 
lol yes :D
 
ce*sored
 
look at this:
> service:jmx:rmi:///jndi/rmi://localhost:1099/jmxrmi
 
8:48 PM
this SO question title made me do a double take
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Q: Can motelling be vectorized in pandas?

feetwet"Motelling" is a way to smooth response to a signal. For example: Given a time-varying signal St that takes integer values 1-5, and a response function Ft({S0...t}) that assigns [-1, 0, +1] to each signal, a standard motelling response function would return: -1 if St = 1, or if (St = 2) & (Ft-...

 

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