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12:40 AM
I wonder how many percent of the internet's revenue is from selling ads
 
1:02 AM
@sehe Don't worry about it, found what I was looking for. Thanks.
 
1:27 AM
@Telkitty Where do you draw the line between "internet's revenue" and other revenue? Does it count as internet revenue if they made an ad for television, but also show it on the internet? If they show it on both, what percentage of its revenue counts as being from the internet?
 
Additionally, if a service can be free (add supported) or paid for, is that revenue ad based or product based? If ads were banned you would see a drop in revenue, but not a 100% drop as companies would be forced to price their services. Users that do not see value in a product will not pay for it, and the company will not recoup costs on advertising for other service (that that person may be more likely pay for). But they can still have revenue through traditional sales.
If I buy something online that I found through an advertisement. But that thing is a physical widget that has nothing to do with the internet. Is that "internet" revenue or not?
 
@JerryCoffin it's radically different to revenue from providing food and shelter - you know, to cover basic human needs
 
What point is there in advertising something for the sake of advertisement, you expect that someone will pay more money to purchase the thing than you spent marketing and making it.
 
But all I am saying is that, google/facebook derive good part of their revenue from advertisements, apple seems to have stepped up it's effort in trying to grab a share.
 
Sure, in the context of individual companies, even very large ones, their revenue can be primarily ad based
But the aggregate total of "revenue", e.g. sales, elsewhere on the internet, must, by definition, be greater than the ad revenue.
 
1:40 AM
yeah, you can increase income tax by paying people to dig a hole then paying people to fill the hole up
 
I'm not sure what you mean by that
 
I am saying by creating a large enough circle, you can make people believe they are always moving forward without knowing they are going around in circles
 
Yo, does anybody know of some nice transforms that map [0,1] to [0, infinity)?
 
@Mikhail rand()
 
Thinking maybe some kind of bilinear transform?
Also rand is bounded on both input and ouput
 
1:45 AM
@Mikhail y=x/(1-x)
 
@Telkitty I go to the store and back, I have done no useful work, I am in the same place I was before, and yet I do not think it was useless
Without other people providing subjective value, its all just going around in circles...
 
depends on your goals, if your aim is to exercise, then obviously it's not useless
 
Goal is just another word for value.
in this context
 
2:15 AM
@Mikhail return sqrt(-42);
 
next time you come to around this timezone and hoping for a predator, lemme know, kz, willing to help fellow loungers, especially the ones that feel like preys
 
@Mysticial That just maps to (0,6.48074).
 
fuck
 
check your calcumulation
 
2:32 AM
@Mikhail My calumnies are completely above reproach worthy of reproach, I assure you.
 
just use my formula - straight, simple & it works
 
2:59 AM
@Mikhail also -log(1-x)
kids, primary school maths ...
 
3:46 AM
LOL, Visual Studio:
Illegal Instruction: vmovdqa32 zmmword ptr [rbp+40h]{k1}{z},zmm0
 
4:34 AM
Very helpful
I was trying to find my indecipherable log message to show, when ran across this snippet on intranet
> Code to cause segfault
  *((int*)1) = 0;
 
not sure why you want to do that
 
Forcing errors
(of a particular type)
 
 
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7:46 AM
taxidermy animals sell as either new or used
 
if I rent goat in the name of autonomous lawn mower, how badly do you think it will end up?
 
 
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9:05 AM
Certain death.
 
like death is not going to occur if I don't do that
 
9:27 AM
Perhaps you will become RoboKitty...you don't know : p
 
9:43 AM
 
10:21 AM
FFS.
I just had a loud exchange with a colleague who is refusing to change a variable to atomic in Java. He is accessing it and updating it from different threads but refuses to acknowledge any need for any synchronization or barrier or such.
It offends my OCD...if I have one.
 
Have a bug tracker item ready after he commits it.
 
@MarkGarcia It was actually found by Sonar scan, so there is already some tracking of this. But the product is riddled with such small infractions.
 
Sonar?
 
 
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1:01 PM
@wilx best policy if you have a legacy codebase riddled with crap is that you agree to use merge reviews, and that the code you are merging in can't introduce more issues
 
@thecoshman work on Mainframes, be happy if your newly introduced if conditions pass the one-week review
 
@Morwenn stop using such a stupid system vOv
 
@thecoshman I'm just mentioning that because a friend of mine was offered such a job in Singapore (but declined the offer) :p
 
1:22 PM
I need to stop watching videos like this
but it warms my heart to watching mother hen taking care of baby ... err ... duck?
 
Yeah, I wouldn't want to work on mainframes
 
@thecoshman who would? people only do that for money I guess v0v
 
I.. wasn't expecting such in depth answer. Will be reviewing them and applying what i learn from this with a another session. I was trying to use ostream before. Kept running into issues. Now I understand why. Thank for that tidbit. — Leruce 3 mins ago
 
1:37 PM
IIRC there was a one-month formation where everything was paid for you (food & housing) + you still had $3k/month during the formation, then you start working for 10k/month
 
muhahahah - I'm a wizard :)
For the win, I added the final step that takes you to print(ObjectE {"string" , {1, 2} , {"str2", "str3"}, {1,3,6}, {{1,2}, {1,4}}}); as your dream code had it :) Live On Colirusehe 2 mins ago
 
Ven
we didnt doubt that
 
I sometimes do
s/sometimes/unspecified regular intervals/
@Ven lol @ comment :)
 
Ven
;-)
 
I suppose I should really add proper io-streaming operators and a parser too
 
1:42 PM
@sehe maybe it was deliberate on your part but you can name constructors with an alias as well, e.g. using Base::Base;
 
@LucDanton I'm aware. I have a strange(?) preference to "say what I mean" - mainly because it doesn't cost anything in terms of typing
 
2:00 PM
@Morwenn I'm sure some people think it's a nice way of wrking
 
nwp
2:49 PM
@EuriPinhollow You broke my quote :(
 
deal with it :D
 
nwp
3:41 PM
> DO NOT USE THIS TAG.
 
4:22 PM
Boost.Asio C++ Network Programming Cookbook wasn't on my list. https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/boostasio-c-network-programming-cookbook My first contact https://stackoverflow.com/q/47691801/85371 seems to suggest it could do with a bit of review. https://twitter.com/sehetw/status/930906598993727491
Becoming the grumpy ol' man of boost
@nwp It works immediately!
 
nwp
Self-fulfilling tags. Someone should create .
 
4:39 PM
@nwp it's already embodied in stone with stars (it verifies that the text was there) so whatever.
 
5:13 PM
@sehe I dunno. If I still had to use VS 2013, I'd probably want to sue somebody too...
 
5:27 PM
> According to Add Health, probability sample young USA adults (14,276), women pursue more committed relationships, fewer sexual partners, and delayed sexual intercourse compared to men...**very attractive men & unattractive women have most sexual partners** -- Tweet
FML, I am neither.
 
6:25 PM
@wilx If you go to the right bar and have a bad enough attitude, I'm sure you'll be able to find somebody willing to make you substantially less attractive, at least until you recover.
 
@JerryCoffin Haha. Won't make me a woman though.
 
@wilx There are doctors who can handle that part as well (and if it's any comfort, I'm sure you'd make a hideously unattractive woman).
 
@JerryCoffin :D
 
@wilx I suppose I should include a disclaimer: perhaps without the beard, you'd look at least a little more feminine. Then again, it's probably just my being narrow-minded that makes me think a full beard isn't particularly feminine.
 
@JerryCoffin Damn right. Dwarven women have beards!
 
6:38 PM
@wilx Probably just as well. I don't think I want to live in a cave anyway.
 
@nwp Literally!
 
my company has zero dedicated testers
and our demo machine has a unique environment
 
@Puppy That sounds less than ideal.
@Puppy What is the nature of your product?
 
currently, buggy.
 
7:42 PM
@Puppy Can you virtualize that environment?
I've strapped most of our "unique" build/test/demo environments into vm's or docker containers
 
certainly should do
we'll find out
 
Nothing wrong with "unique" if its reproducable
 
8:06 PM
@Puppy I don't think you need dedicated testers... but you need 'enough' people thinking about the testing at various levels
 
8:39 PM
@crasic If it's reproducible it's not unique.
 
8:49 PM
@JerryCoffin he'll never loose the y chromosome
 
@Puppy false
something can be reproducible, but if you only have one instance of it, it's unique
 
if it's reproducible, I have as many instances as I want, so it's not unique
the fact that I might happen to only want 1 right now doesn't make it unique, it just means I only want 1 right now
unique things can't be reproduced.. that's what makes them unique.
 
9:03 PM
@Puppy no, if it was reproducible, you could have as many as you want, but until you do, it's still unique
 
no
having only 1 instance of a thing doesn't make it unique.. what makes it unique is there being at most 1 instance of a thing.
 
that makes it special :P
says nothings about it having be unreproducible
 
9:43 PM
lot of prescriptive pedants, unique can have meaning of non-standard, atypical, not out of the box
 
9:54 PM
@Mikhail I dunno--from what I understand, they're pretty small. Drop one under even a tiny bit of dust, and it'd be hard to find again. :-)
@crasic "not out of the box"? So "inside the box". By that definition, "unique thinking" seems to be the most common kind...
 
@JerryCoffin You know what I mean...
 
10:13 PM
What happend in the cpus to make virtualiztion so low cost?
 
AMD-V and Intel VT-x
 
@milleniumbug Yes, but what does the magic entail?
 
@crasic You must be new here. Finding a different way to interpret a given set of words is...kind of a specialty of mine.
@CaptainGiraffe Basically, enough direct support in the hardware that even though it'sin a VM, most code still runs directly on the CPU, so it runs at full speed. Then it just traps to the VM when it does something (e.g., I/O) that really needs to be emulated.
One of the big things (which is what AMD-V and VT-x add) is nested page tables, so when a VM creates page tables, it doesn't have to emulate the paging in software--it can just create them as a nested page table in the hardware. This is the big thing that lets most typical instructions just run directly on the CPU.
 
11:00 PM
What about segfaults? Why don't they crash the VM?
Hm, I should probably look this up myself.
 
@StackedCrooked Aren't they the same thing? The processor can't find a page mapping for it. So it calls the OS's handler. It shouldn't be any different inside or outside the VM.
 
But the OS would be the native OS. Not the OS in the VM, right?
 
Perhaps the only question is where that happens. Within the VM and passed directly into the VM OS's handler? Or does it propagate all the way outside and the host OS handles it and passes it into the VM's handler.
I'm guessing the former.
 
How does the virtual OS gain the privilege of being treated like the outermost real native OS?
So it can handle segfaults etc..
 
I'm guessing the VM supervisor can install a driver in the host OS
 
11:08 PM
"OS driver"
?
 
fixed - also this is me guessing so yeah
 
@milleniumbug I see. So the kernel code can load a driver that allows a virtual OS to take control?
I feel like this is the missing piece of knowledge that would make my life complete.
 
@StackedCrooked So if we tell you, you'll die because it finishes your life? :D
 
it's probably enough if it can determine who accessed a specific page
 
@Mysticial Nah. Still waiting for second season of Re:Zero.
 
11:12 PM
lol
Is there even room for a season 2?
 
Well. The series was kinda unfinished.
 
Unlike... ahem... MIA. Fucking just got started.
 
Re Zero has a lot of source material
> The anime across all 25 episodes covered the first 8 volumes completely and around half of volume 9
> Volumes in Japanese: 14 (In Progress, plus side story volumes)
ok, less than I expected
 
I assume the novel series is not finished? The anime seemed like only an introduction. Like, we've come to know the candidates for the throne, but that's about were the anime ended.
Also, we know next to nothing about Reinhard.
 
Now that you mention it...
I've almost completely forgotten what happened in that show since it's been a while.
 
11:29 PM
@StackedCrooked I'd say that if the host OS can do arbitrary stuff when you access memory (like killing a program that accessed unmapped memory or memory mapped files), it would be possible to install a driver that would plug in to the code which handles that in the host OS that would delegate to the guest
whenever I read about this stuff I'm always amazed that OSes crash so rarely
 
@milleniumbug layers and layers of sandboxing
"rings" and "rings" actually
 
I suppose this is the power of the tens of thousands experts who do this on daily basis for decades and millions of people who become angry when things stop working
 
@Xeo @Mysticial @ScarletAmaranth Are you watching Inuyashiki? (It's pretty good.)
 
Xeo
I read the manga
 
11:38 PM
I'm not. I'm guessing it's something that should go on my to-do list? (which is pretty backed up atm)
 
@Mysticial I suppose it should. However, Net-juu no Susume should get higher priority.
 
@StackedCrooked That's already on my watching list. Though I think I'm a few episodes behind.
 
@JamesLittle Wow. How did that go unnoticed for all these years. I took the opportunity to add c++11, c++14 and c++17 versions that are informative and more elegant, respectively! Cheers — sehe 22 secs ago
Fixing an answer after 6 years. As one does.
 
@StackedCrooked I don't. Netu-juu is slowly becoming boring for me :(.
 
The only show I'm caught up with is Ousama Game. But that show is turning from disturbing/fucked-up to interesting/fucked-up.
 
11:42 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Strange.
@Mysticial Really? Perhaps I should consider it then.
 
Currently I am enthralled by Mahoutskai No Yome.
Beautiful animation and music.
 
I agree.
 
@StackedCrooked The first ~4 episodes is all NTR. All the recent episodes is just blood, gore, human gibbing - but starting to develop some sort of plot.
 
Excellent color palettes chosen for scenes in Mahoutskai.
 
Xeo
fuck NTR
 
11:45 PM
Involving good contrast even in completely dark scenes or in completely bright scenes.
 
@ScarletAmaranth That's also one of my "watching" shows. But I'm very behind on it.
 
Xeo
Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko is good, watch it
 
excellent anime
 
Xeo
It's basically Made in Abyss, but fluffy
 
lol
 
11:45 PM
@Mysticial Worth watching just for the animation quality and music imho.
 
Dunno if any of you are watching Houseki on kuni. It's probably my #2 this season. So I'd definitely recommend it.
@Mysticial NTR?
 
beautiful scenes; not sure I've ever seen an anime so pretty
even fate zero isn't quite as high quality imho (the one from ufotable)
speaking of which, I missed the new fate stay night
and the muuusiiic man; the music is the shit
 
@StackedCrooked lol, google it. I had to google it too when people on the MAL forums started using it to describe this show.
 
@Mysticial Oh. Ugh.
I'd hate that.
 
Ousama Game is fucking awful
 
11:47 PM
Why would I want to read/watch something that makes me feel bad..
 
Some people are into that cuck stuff.
 
@StackedCrooked That's why I never recommended it.
 
But you watched it :P
 
You guys should watch Boku no Hero Academia if you haven't
 
pretty sure we all have
 
11:49 PM
@StackedCrooked Just because I watched it doesn't mean it's good. :)
 
Good
S3 is soon :blobmelt:
 
I think I'm starting to like a bit less fighty anime as of recent tho
for example right now I would not watch Bleach
 
@ScarletAmaranth Then watch Love Love. lol polar opposite
 
Bleach is trash
 
I used to like Bleach for fighting scenes
 
11:50 PM
@Rapptz The sound
 
@StackedCrooked yee
BnhA has a great OST
 
Yeah :D
 
huh
I've been just looking at some Mahoutskai no Yome OST on YT
and I found a year old stuff called
The Ancient's Magus Bride o_O?
And it's like Mahoutskai but... worse drawn o_O?
what sorcery is this
 
lol that's what Mahoutskai no Yome means.
There was an OVA before the anime came out that takes place after the current airing anime.
 
oooooooh, ok ok now that explains a lot
so basically OVA was first and now dis
 
11:54 PM
@Rapptz The "Mahou" part is the only part I know. I don't know what "Yome" is. So not enough context for me to guess at it.
So it means "bride"?
 
maaan the colors in that anime are out of this world...
some of the scenes, for example the forst scene with the sleeping Chise
sooo pretty
 
@Mysticial yome means bride/wife yes
 
yeah "yome" = "bride"
 
@Mysticial I assume you mean "Love Live!"
 
bridge!
 
11:56 PM
@StackedCrooked uh yeah. oops
 
lol that typo
 
The actual title would be "The magician's bride"
But context and what not
 
Initially, I almost read it as "Yume" since I see it more often and I know what it means.
 
A tragic story of a grand magus in a world where he can't make living with magic, struggling to become a civil engineer - The Ancient's Magus Bridge.
 
lol
 
11:57 PM
hahahahahha
 
@ScarletAmaranth actually it seems the OVA is a prequel.
My friends say not to watch it cause of spoilers though.
I don't know who to trust.
 
@Rapptz And that the real story is how to become a civil engineer building bridges. :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth lol
 

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