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12:16 AM
mornings
 
 
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1:40 AM
@FlorianMargaine meh, that looks ugly. I'm aware that sizeof is a language construct, but … meh.
 
2:03 AM
Narrowing occurred during type inference – #75608
 
 
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3:27 AM
hello guys i'm looking for UTM (Unierstal Turing Machine) binary adittion substration and multiplicacion
 
3:59 AM
morning
 
morning @Linus &r11
o/
 
\o
 
4:41 AM
Morning folks
 
Wes
4:51 AM
morn
 
5:14 AM
\o
 
5:40 AM
o/
 
Wes
today first full day of standing desk
my legs are already weakened. imagine in 8 hours lol
 
5:55 AM
Morning people
Is there any real benefit of standing desks over regular?
 
6:10 AM
your boss can always see you from across all the cubicles so you become more productive
if there is a fire you are already on your feet, so you get a head start over your colleagues
you can dance while you work
 
6:28 AM
@Danack aye
Morngins
 
Wes
@crypticツ i am dancing. but it's not pleasant. i am stretching because muscles hurt :B
mornings
 
@Leigh nice, looks like something to do this weekend (= thanks for sharing
and mornings
happy frydais
 
Do we have any regulars in here who live in South America?
 
Wes
yes i think
 
@Wes wat ?
why would you stand up all day, the best thing about being a programmer is all the sitting down ...
 
Wes
6:35 AM
lol
 
and the sleeping bag under the desk for the afternoon nap.
you guys get naptime in Europe right?
 
and the groupies
 
6:57 AM
@Wes hahaha! Did you get punished or something by your boss? or it's your wish?
 
bob
Ok interesting question. (Not about PHP) can you make a file appear smaller than it really is? for example you download a file and it states that it's 2KB, but when you open the file it's over 100MB, if you copy it to a usb it's still 2KB but if you open it on another computer it's 100MB+ ?
 
sunrise over the med is so pretty ...
 
@bob Google zip bombs
@JoeWatkins Where are you at?
 
spain
I don't intend to leave ...
 
Noice
 
7:14 AM
mo in, mo problems
 
hola
 
Moin
 
Mogguh
 
bob
@PeeHaa Thanks
 
7:19 AM
Hi
 
Wes
@Akshay punished?
i wouldn't dance if i were being punished
 
7:39 AM
o/
 
mrnng
 
\o
 
7:52 AM
o/
 
Wes
\o
 
o/
 
\o/
 
\\o//
 
@Danack A lot of what I mentioned was constructive tbf but I understand your point
@Ekin @PeeHaa You guys owe me some Terraria soon :X @PeeHaa said so :P
 
7:57 AM
@Wes :D My Mistake ! So It's your wish !
 
@Fabor I first need to make it through today somehow :P
 
^
It's going to be a long day
Buuut Friday it is
 
\o/
!!friday
 
This is one of those cases where you wonder if you need to punish the one executing the order or the one giving it.. ><
 
8:12 AM
@PeeHaa Tis fine, I have work tonight too. So likely tomorrow or day after is better.
Turns out there's also a minecraft mod called "CouplesCraft" :P
 
bob
@Jeeves Does any one actually like this song?
 
@bob Yeah, the japanese do.
 
Have someone seen "Forrest Gump" movie?
 
8:28 AM
my bet would be everyone did
 
and would it be your recommendation?
@Gordon also as an English note, when you use "would be", then you should use a past participle verb. So the sentence should be:
> my bet would be everyone done
 
@Shafizadeh that sounds wrong
 
Wes
so basically people that rent big machinery from my client are insured, and if they do maintenance regularly they get prizes from my client. so we contacted them, and of about 1000 "you won, come retire your prize" no one went retiring their prize (yet) people these days think everything is a scam
 
@Shafizadeh it's a good movie for sure.
 
@Gordon ok thx
 
Anonymous
8:33 AM
!!wotd
 
cockcrow daybreak; dawn; the time at which a cock characteristically crows.
 
Anonymous
cockcrow everyone
 
Anonymous
what are some good podcasts to listen to while working?
 
Wes
now they are kind of blaming me because i made and sent the email :B but i knew that the email would be insta-trashed
they never listen.
 
Let me guess. They also forced you to include alot of images and texts like "YOU WON!!!"
 
Wes
8:37 AM
:P
 
Been there, done that..
 
Wes
nope, it's like that but not really. i think it's just easily confused with a regular "check out our new offers" email
clearly people don't read. they just look at pics, at the sender and then delete immediately
 
@Patrick Finished. \o/
> my bet would be everyone has
@Shafizadeh
ftr
 
bob
@Wes It's big problem with advertisers, how to engage their audience. and now it seem it's only through either direct or creditable third party sources. it's all fucked.
 
@Fabor are you sure?
 
8:42 AM
Yes
 
ok thx for the heads up :-)
also, is this sentence correct?
> thx for the heads up
 
Have someone seen "Forrest Gump" movie? -> Has anyone seen the movie "Forrest Gump"?
Yeah, that's fine.
 
thx
is English your native?
 
Native and only :P
 
great .. where are you from?
 
8:44 AM
@Fabor \o/ congrats
 
UK, currently staying in Vietnam. And use "Native vernacular" rather than just "native"
@Patrick You wanna go over some small points in private?
 
@Fabor lets do it
 
You grammar nazis, it doesn't really matter as long as you get your point across or unless you are in a professional setting.
 
@mega6382 It matters when @Shafizadeh wants to improve his English :)
 
@Fabor good for you
So you can see movies without sub-title @Fabor ..! unfair :-( I can't
 
8:47 AM
@Shafizadeh I love subtitled movies though. :). If you're watching subtitled movies, read out the subtitles while you watch, helps with pronunciation Just not at the cinema.
 
animes with subs <3
 
what does "read out" mean?
 
@Shafizadeh saying out loud what you read
 
Anonymous
watch it inside, and read it outside the cinema
 
yeah please don't do that in a cinema :D
 
Wes
8:48 AM
legs hurt. and it's still 10am
i just replaced backache with legsache
 
@Patrick I see thx
 
Anonymous
firefox quantum is still not faster than chrome, not even close ..
 
Anonymous
has anyone experienced this?
 
FF works nice for me
I'm currently using FF Developer Edition, v58.something
and, haven't really faced any problem after switching from Chrome
and the nightly version, has some nice support than the normal versions as well
 
Anonymous
It's too slow despite the hype. I used the Dev edition 2 years ago didn't find any difference in performance so I had to ditch it.
 
9:00 AM
tho, tbh I've noticed slight perf increase in some pages
but still, the actual thing FF does a great job about is it's memory consumption
 
Anonymous
FF isn't as fast as chrome and it crushed frequently for me.
 
its using around ~210MB with 2-3 tabs streaming simultaneously
 
Anonymous
I'm amazed at google despite doing so many stuff at the same time, still manages to get far head of mozilla and microsoft in browser performance
 
I haven't had a crash yet on FF since I switched back
 
same, even the nightly didn't crash...
 
9:02 AM
Nor do I see a real performance difference
Although I have to say my chrome got slower and slower lately
 
imo, it's like FireFox = Chrome
btw... can we haz some R11 Overwatch this weekend?
 
Anonymous
@SaitamaSama what is that? a game?
 
Anonymous
do you guys play online or something?
 
Anonymous
if so, count me in
 
!!? Overwatch
 
9:07 AM
Search for "Overwatch -site:w3schools.com" (https://www.google.com/search?q=Overwatch+-site%3Aw3schools.com&lr=lang_en)
• Overwatch - In a time of global crisis, an international task force of heroes banded together to restore peace… (https://playoverwatch.com/)
• Overwatch Gameplay Trailer - YouTube - The world needs heroes: http://www.playoverwatch.com Overwatch is a highly stylized team-based shoo… (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dushZybUYnM)
• Afbeeldingen van Overwatch -site:w3schools.com - No description available (/search?q=Overwatch+-site:w3schools.com&lr=lang_en&dcr=0&tbs=lr:lang_
 
basically 'team-base fps'
and it's quite fun...
 
Wes
@samayo yep :P
 
Anonymous
I have steam account, what else do I need?
 
Anonymous
do I need to buy the game, cause I'll :)
 
yeah, you can buy the game from us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/overwatch
its 39.99 iirc
it was 19.99 during the thanksgiving week
 
Anonymous
9:12 AM
I will buy it, but not sure if my PC can play it though.
 
Anonymous
I don't have ps4 now
 
Anonymous
> Intel® HD Graphics 4400
 
it has really low graphics requirements
as it had a game engine built from scratch just for it
can run upto 4K with awesome level of details
you could watch some gameplays as well :B I personally like Seagull, like he's ~Top 100 NA
 
They build an engine from scratch just for one game?? O.o
 
9:16 AM
yes :B
they wanted to optimize the shit out of it, iirc
 
That effort
 
Anonymous
I have Intel HD Graphics 620 but the spec says 4400 this can't be right... there is something I am missing maybe
 
@samayo start saving up for proper gaming PC
it's around 1000€, if you want current-year, and maybe 700-800€ for last years
 
Anonymous
I could buy 10 of that with my current savings
 
Anonymous
But I've been saving for a car and other equally important stuff
 
9:24 AM
yeah, being grownup sucks
 
Anonymous
yeah
 
@tereško were your childhood days great?
 
good enough
 
did you have a computer in that time ?
 
nope, not really, I think I saw the first computer just before getting to highschool
 
9:27 AM
also, how many children are you?
2
 
Anonymous
yo
 
\o
 
o/
 
9:35 AM
\o
 
Anonymous
o/
 
\o
 
\o
 
o/
 
Wes
9:37 AM
\o
 
If one would be interested in having a look and maybe submit a proposed patch for youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WI-38403, there is no option for it - right? There is no public respository for phpstorm? Or am I just that bad at finding it today?
also o/
 
c-c-c-c-combo breaker
 
thats usually what i do, i'm a party pooper
I don't know why they changed the friggin phpstorm.meta for the worse
lol
 
I really hate PHPStorm, I don't get why people use it.
 
PHPStorm <3
 
9:41 AM
its really the best tool, but this one thing is messed up
like it was working 2 versions ago
 
@mega6382 You mustn't have used it enough, literally every dev I know, in my company at least, loves it. Same with devs I've talked to at conferences. There must be some reason they're making money...
Given that, it's entirely likely you haven't given it a good enough run
 
Anonymous
@mega6382 It's heavy and bloated
 
I have Zend Studio Perpetual license and Devsense for VS perpetual license. So, I dont see the appeal in PHPStrom.
 
but its really the only tool you need
 
i haven't heard of any tool that even comes close to phpstorm
 
9:43 AM
@samayo Do you work on a raspberry pi?
 
what do you use instead?
 
Wes
guys, time to upgrade your pentium 3
 
^
 
threadripper!!1
 
Anonymous
@Jimbo nah, I work on arduino nano :)
 
9:43 AM
zend studio? i used to use it too, its way more clunky
 
@Daniel Also, I love and mostly use netbeans.
 
i used netbeans for 8 years, it's a decent free alternative
 
Wes
ew
 
doenst work so well on linux though
too much lag with open-jdk
indexing is slow
 
9:45 AM
lol :)
 
also, netbeans on linux have the issue with the drivers for keyboard that stops working
you need to restart the service like every 10 minutes
cant remember what it was called...
hang on
related to swing
 
Anonymous
vscode is the best period!
 
@Wes What are you saying "ew" to?
 
Wes
to netbeans
 
9:47 AM
Why is that?
 
@Fabor cuuute
 
Wes
it's not phpstorm :P
 
@SaitamaSama Thank you, you're cute too ;)
 
ibus-daemon
 
9:48 AM
You can also get PHPStorm for free, legitimately
If you use their EAP
 
isn't it like unavailable for a few weeks between versions?
the eap
 
mornin
 
Anonymous
@Fabor looks sentient to me
 
Nor sure, I just bought it and never bothered googling for the license key as a gist that loads of people use for free
 
Does PHPstorm have something like netbean's CTRL + click?
 
9:51 AM
then there is that netbeans php is like constantly over 1-2 years behind the latest php verison
they didnt get php 7 syntax support until after php7.1
and now we're at php 7.2 and i guess they have no support for that either
 
@mega6382 Click to definition?
 
if you are using freeware, you can't really complain about them not having support for something...
 
@mega6382 yes, you can even use netbeans key mapping in phpstorm by default
that's why we moved away from netbeans in the first place, development was too slow
 
@Fabor Like you would click on a variable and it would take you to where it was first decalred.
 
tried zend studio before settlign on phpstorm
 
9:53 AM
@mega6382 Yes then
 
@mega6382 yeah, it does have that
 
yes, ctrl+b is the same as going to declaration
 
OK, and what about devsense? as compared to PHPstorm.
 
probably familiar with the feature but dont know the terminology, what is devsense?
 
It is an IDE. devsense.com
 
9:55 AM
documentation and indication? autocomplete? typehinting?
its a plugin for visual studio?
 
Yes, it is a VS plugin.
 
pstorm has like one of the best intelli-sense
 
i tried visual studio at home on my gaming pc which has windows, out of the box it's literally shit for php development, but with that plugin it might work well, dunno
 
I won a perpetual license for devsense but never used it though.
 
phpstorm also can setup the project in a way no other editor seem to do, like folder structures and namespace's for individual directories, file watchers and out-of-the-box runners for compilation and copying front-end resources to public directories etc.
.... but they screwed up the friggin .phpstorm.meta.php parser.....
which annoys the shit out of me :D
hahaha
 
9:59 AM
Hmm, it seems kind of cool, I always thought it was something like that dreamweaver or whatever it was called.
 
no, its not a wysiwg editor
 

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