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4:14 AM
\o
!!/tea
 
@SurajRao brews a cup of jasmine tea for @SurajRao
 
 
1 hour later…
5:19 AM
^ reject edit spam
 
5:29 AM
@SmokeDetector still up
@SurajRao yet another (fourth one now I think)
 
user177800
@SmokeDetector this one looks ok
 
@JarrodRoberson indeed, it already has two fp marks in Metasmoke
@FOX9000 could this one also be set up to simply look for edits by users named like that?
 
6:11 AM
2 spam posts trigger community user to protect a question. Am I wrong in my guess? Not able to find a meta post regarding spam and community protect
 
6:24 AM
@SurajRao The threshold is 3 deleted questions by users <10 rep. See Answer to: Automatically protect questions with three or more low-rep-user deleted answers
 
@Makyen I saw that but seems inconsistent in this example.
There are two spam posts by new/unregistered users
 
@SurajRao Yep, that's inconsistent with everything I've found on it (multiple duplicate questions or consolidations of the one I linked.). Sounds like it's time for a meta post.
 
7:15 AM
MOrn \o
 
Ron
7:36 AM
@rene @kayess Discard that please.
 
Ron
7:48 AM
@rene @kayess Actually, don't. After some clarification in the comments it remains valid imho.
 
8:32 AM
^ spamelispam...
 
9:07 AM
@Ron make up your mind .... ;)
and @kayess isn't an RO, unless I missed the memo ...
 
hehe
typical rene
 
typical ... not sure if that is an compliment ;)
 
i would say the same old rene not sure myself if that is a compliment
 
meh how I love german lang
RAIFFEISEN KAPITALANLAGEGESELLSCHAFT MBH
Now, how do you pronounce that capital-something, I'm sure I couldn't even say it with one breath
BTW it's kinda scary to receive a ping from a flower
 
9:32 AM
@kayess are you sure KAPITALANLAGE and GESELLSCHAFT are one word? Because I assume the last bit is meant to indicate GmbH; Geschellschaft mit beschränkter Häftung.
 
Ron
@rene Discard please.
 
@rene Kapitalanlagengesellschaft is one word
Indeed
 
OK, and mbh means what I assumed?
 
But really
You can make any amount of nouns in a row into one word in german
and it's not technically incorrect
Yeah
Basicly the legal form of a LLC (Limited Liability Company)
 
Yeh, holy carp german is complicated
 
9:34 AM
^
 
"mit beschränkter Haftung" literally means "with limited liability"
 
Ah, you can tell I left school a time ago and never had to use that knowledge later on
 
Kapital = Capital, Anlage = Investment, Gesellschaft = Society / Corporation
 
Yeah school-dropouts tend to forget things before time ...
 
The compound word roughly translates to investment company or mutual fund
 
Ron
9:35 AM
German sure is a hard language to learn. Unlike Italian or English.
 
@Magisch yup that one I guess
 
The problem is for every rule there are like 50 exceptions
Also unlike in english things sound right but are wrong quite often
 
I also got the umlaut wrong on Haftung
 
Ahh yeah
Well still not bad
I prefer english tbh
english is easier and less exhausting to talk a lot in
and it sounds less confrontational
 
@Ron what needs discarding? Or were you jokingly referring to my last message?
 
Ron
9:41 AM
@rene I made up my mind. This cv request of mine needs to be discarded.
 
@Magisch I don't get any practice in the German language. So whatever pops up in my mind is from long ago ...
 
Ron
I know how to ask for directions to a main train station in German.
And that's pretty much it.
 
tbh you can get by with english in germany quite well
 
If I can use my hands and feet I can ask for directions to a train station in any language. It might look stupid though ...
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Ron
Haha
 
9:47 AM
@rene How does a flower do that?
 
rene shakes those petals
 
lol
 
Ron
10:01 AM
Academia - programming is all about arithmetics.
 
10:21 AM
@rene Is there video?
@Magisch Germansshouldbeforcedtousecamelorsnakecaseforthecompoundwords.
 
germans_hate_spacebar @MartinJames ?
 
@SurajRao Yes__for_a_long_time_I_thought_german_kb_didn't_have_one :)
ActuallyThereAreSomeKBwhereTheBarIsSplitIntoTwoHalves. OnlyOneHalfActuallyGeneratesAspace, theOtherHalfGeneratedAcarrriageReturn. ItWasAnightmareToUse.
 
@SmokeDetector this is spam
Please help on closing these off-topic questions on . Here is the review link stackoverflow.com/review/close/?filter-tags=manjaro
 
@JohnDvorak 'there's still hope that the company will take a little break from maximizing clicks on job ads on Stack Overflow and do something about the experience of expert users' LOL, like that's gonna happen..
 
@MartinJames yes, but for obvious reasons those are kept private.
 
@rene :( lol
 
11:16 AM
@ThomasWeller 'SOS Berlin job scheduler' lol, I assumed that was about work at the new airport:)
 
11:36 AM
Morning
 
12:26 PM
We are down to 155 open questions for (current on-going burnination)
 
Are we converting SO to a better place by this?
 
1:41 PM
hiya Mr. Vadim Floodorov \o
 
o/
I will stop for now
 
@Magisch I sent you an invite, but I'm not sure if that will work for a private room. I don't exercise chat features often, so let me know if you can't get in.
 
Does SOCVR handle obviously terrible review audits? (as in, downvote & VtC or reopen an audit question, so that it ceases to be an audit?)
 
@BradLarson I haven't got the invite in notifications or anything yet. Can you try pinging me in the room?
Andy did that last time I talked to him in a private room
 
@StephenLeppik I'm not sure, but smells like terriroty for meta to me
 
@Magisch Ah, I think I need to use a superping. Sent one now.
 
2:10 PM
@StephenLeppik We haven't. Generally that is something that is brought to meta.
 
@StephenLeppik not sure why we shouldn't but we don't get many of those requests. I think meta is better for now but I'll put an item on our meeting topics list so we as a room can discuss if we want this and if so, under which criteria
 
@rene meta.stackoverflow.com/a/357905/6388243 should be a good starting point
 
2:26 PM
@SardarUsama Brash homework dump.
 
I added some new items to the queue for the burnination BTW
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@EJoshuaS I'll have a run later on
 
Is it time for Zalgo?
 
a closed question goes in the reopen queue if gets edited, right? what if it is rejected in the reopen queue and then another edit makes it good enough to be reopened, does that question go to the reopen queue again?
 
@SardarUsama only the first edit on an "on hold" post puts it in the reopen queue. Subsequent edits don't do that. I'm unsure whether "closed" questions also get put into the queue, but afaik not
 
2:33 PM
@Adriaan thanks
 
@xenteros Isn't it numericValue = new Double(numericValue.doubleValue() * 100); System.out.println(numericValue); that is causing the problem? The OP isn't printing the BigDecimal.
 
From the question title it looks like he wants to learn about big decimals
 
That might be what he wants but that doesn't look like what he is doing. It looks like he is doing the inverse
 
2:52 PM
Firefox 57 (Quantum) comes! Our great Extensions are going... : (
 
@xenteros FDrom teh first comment, it very well is a dupe. The problem is the argument to the constructor which is a normal float. Internal conversion generates roundign errors. And those are covered by the dupe.
 
Resistance Extensions are futile.
 
@Olaf ok - unfortunatelly I can't retract my reopen
 
@kayess Yep, Smolderfox is due out in a month. About all you can do is go with Firefox 52ESR, but downgrading from FF55+ can result in some problems, due to changes in the format of some files in your profile.
 
@xenteros I never had to retract a reopen vote. Is that normal?
 
2:59 PM
I never cast reopen votes, so I never had to either
 
It'd better be amazing for me to cast a reopen vote. If it's marginal, it's not worth our effort, IMO.
 
@Makyen other option is that I disable updates for the time being
<expect someoneiswrong_ontheinterwebz.png>
that's fp I guess right ?
 
Yeah
 
SmokeDetector is getting too smurt
IMO it should say "Possible" rather than outright statement
FireAlarm says "potentially bad" to indicate as such
 
@kayess That also works, but you then miss out on security updates. You might want to consider disabling auto-updates on extensions too, as Mozilla has changed to a Chrome-like automated review process, instead of 100% human review and it's known that it lets some bad code through (crypto-currency mining, which consumes your CPU to make money for the extension authors).
 
3:05 PM
the internets is a scary place
 
@Makyen or maybe they will steal our valueble cv-plz items to build their empire : (
 
@kayess That's certainly a possibility :-).
 
@Compass SmokeDetector is starting to let on about it sentience. lol
 
3:36 PM
@SmokeDetector I checked for plagiarism but didn't find any.
 
@LW001 SOCVR does not permit requests which are about posts in which you have an interest (i.e. that you have asked or answered). In addition, if you feel a question is a duplicate, then you should not answer it. You should either flag/vote to close as duplicate or answer the question, not both.
 
I feel like we need to protect all these questions @NathanOliver They're all made up of quotes from other answers/questions and blog posts. There's not one original thought in them.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis protection would not have stopped that answer. If you feel it should be open but you want to stop new users from answering it by all means protect it.
 
@LW001 If you realize the question is a duplicate after you answer it, then you can delete your answer. If you feel your answer adds value to the dup-target, please re-create your answer as an answer on the dup-target. It happens. I've ended up doing that a couple/few times. If your answer wouldn't add anything to the dup-target, then just delete and vote/flag to close.
 
Yeah, was a dupe as well.
 
3:43 PM
I'll do that when I have flags again i guess
 
4:11 PM
@SardarUsama so tempted to leave a comment: "Keyword: Google"
 
@LW001 Note that the restriction I mentioned does not prevent you from posting a cv-pls request where you've answered the dup-target. Only the question you are requesting being closed is considered with respect to the restriction.
 
4:24 PM
I have another plagiarism job for the room, should there be people willing.
I found 3 obvious cases so far, and one I'm not sure of, out of 4 I checked.
As always, flag and point to the source, I'll clean it up from there
 
Sure. Ill start working from the end
 
Time to build this feature into Guttenberg..
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@PetterFriberg Make a new one called Plagiarist
 
I stopped at "make hitTest(_:with:) function return UIButton". afk
 
Is a code translation plagiarism? Say from C# to VB.Net? You copy over structure and comments but don't add/change much more.
 
4:44 PM
@rene That's a tough one wrt. plagiarism. It would certainly count as a derivative work, from a copyright/license point of view. Thus, it would require crediting the original author (assuming the source is using CC BY-SA 3.0, i.e. Stack Overflow). My gut would be to treat it as plagiarism, particularly given that they copied comments (indicating copying, not inspiration). However, with code, there's often a preferable logic, which makes "rewording" impractical, for short segments of code.
 
@Makyen OK, that is kind of what I put in the custom flag. I'll let you know how it ends
 
@rene The way I look at it is if it is not cited then yes.
 
@rene I'm going to guess it ends with a period.
 
Shows how much you know. Everyone knows if you flag in all caps with 5 !'s at the end they get processed faster ;)
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@NathanOliver Don't forget the extra '1' at the end, for that little urgency flair
 
4:52 PM
:)
 
@Machavity a handy guide
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@rene That's a difficult one. I think you are talking about the same post I uhmm-ed and ahh-ed over before, translating existing answers to Swift 3.0. We have tons of such posts all over SO.
 
@MartijnPieters yes, you were already invovled when it was cross-posted. I think attribution is required (so maybe worth a comment) but decline it for the plagiarism.
 
@rene actually, the one you flagged is a different one, but another example of the same behaviour.
 
5:07 PM
OK, well. It is your call. prepares meta rant for declined flag
 
@rene I marked it as helpful, so good luck with that one!
 
Prepares rant on mod accepting a flag
 
Posts anyway, needs meta rep
 
Hrm, I asked them to add attribution, but we also have suspended the account (they were up to a bit more than just plagiarism). I guess I'll have to do the work myself.
@rene You know you are top of the meta rankings in my eyes, rene, you don't need to prove yourself to me anymore.
 
@MartijnPieters Speaking of the devil, might want to glance at that last SD report. I don't think it's plagiarism (has a cite) but I'm also not sure how much was a wholesale copy
 
5:17 PM
@Machavity gone, that was just a wholesale copy.
 
Are longer cv-pls reasons desirable? I've been tending towards give a longer explanation along with the cv reason. Should I not do this, or try to distill my longer explanation into a shorter summary?
 
@Justin If a basic reason will suffice, use it. But if it's not obvious (like a typo reason), please explain
 
It's fine by me. I often add more context id it is not immediately obvious.
 
@Justin if your message doesn't fit the 500 char limit you have a problem .... I guess we will tell you when your novel gets out of control ... but if you want a discussion about it, feel free to put it on the agenda for the next room meeting
It never bothered me, if that is worth anything
 
@Machavity: that account has done nothing more than copy stuff from elsewhere, there is nothing left there now.
 
5:23 PM
Nice
 
@rene Just wanted to know if it was a problem before I started really annoying people. Or if there were better ideas.
From the feedback I've gotten, I'll keep explaining if it warrants explanation, but I'll ensure the extra context doesn't get too long
 
@Justin I tend to be a bit too verbose. However, personally, I find that additional factual information which helps reduce the time other people have to spend evaluating the question is often quite helpful, particularly when a question is a wall of code or text where you really only need to see line 3 of the 4th code block to know it's a typo. As I understand it, the problem in the past has been people adding derogatory comments/opinions to cv-pls requests, which is inappropriate.
 
6:03 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis ..and yet some cucumber managed to answer it:(
 
CUCUMBERS ARE FANTASTIC
5/7 PERFECT VEGETABLE
 
Cucumbers are five sevenths of the perfect vegetable?
 
Ron
o/
 
@NathanOliver yes.
 
Ron
Forget diamonds. Cucumbers are forever.
 
6:13 PM
They need to be combined with onions to become 7/7 perfection.
 
Cucumbers and onions??? Like as one thing or mixed together?
 
mixed together
though if you could combine it into a cucumbion that'd be impressive
 
what would it taste like
Cucumbers are refreshingly bland, while onions are sharp and pungent.
I guess it would taste like a refreshing onion.
This has been your Compass has weird food ideas minute.
 
7:03 PM
o/
 
o/
 
Ron
o/
 
@Adriaan Halloween version?
 
@NathanOliver I guess that site no longer does outside linking
 
So broken instead?
 
7:25 PM
@JarrodRoberson watch out answering, you are blocking roomba (even with community answer). I would go one of these ways 1. It can be useful for others--> answer, 2. It's not useful for others --> close no answer (just a comment to help OP and keep'em happy)
 
7:40 PM
If I have flagged comments for being rude, and the post gets deleted, those flags get marked helpful. Do moderators still get notified?
 
Good question. I don't know
 
@MartijnPieters @JonClements Can you comment on the question above?
^^ gonna delete that typo post when it's ready...
 
Ron
7:59 PM
@Makyen Can cv bookmarklet be modified so that the copy-to-clipboard window can be closed using ESC key?
 
@Ron Or you hit F5 and reload the page.
 
@Ron It could. I can see that the ability to do so would be desirable for those who mostly use their browser while keeping both hands on the keyboard. However, I'm unaware of a browser that easily permits you to invoke it without using the mouse to click on the bookmarklet.
brb
 
Ron
@Olaf ;)
 
@Makyen Hotkeys (didn't try, but it might be possible)? TBH, I also tried to close that panel with ESC.
 
@Ron Just use JQuery, It can do it
 
Ron
8:04 PM
@Makyen It's no biggie, would be nice though.
@NathanOliver I am a lazy bunch, I have it bookmarked on FF. Click + Esc would be my lazy workflow.
 
was joke
 
@NathanOliver jQuery compiled my C++ into Python
 
Ron
@NathanOliver Ah damn, sorry. I am getting sleepy.
 
@Olaf Not to initiate the bookmarklet, at least not from within the script. One of the points of a bookmarklet is that there is no code running until you click on the bookmarklet. If the browser permits it, then you could define one. You can invoke a bookmarklet using just the keyboard in Firefox, and perhaps others. However, it's many keys to get there.
 
8:07 PM
 
Ron
@Machavity Haha, nice one.
 
I love the second comment on the middle answer
 
@Olaf @ron OK. Sounds like it's what people that are actually using it expect/desire. Thus, we should add it. I'll work on it.
 
Ron
@Makyen Many thanks.
 
@NathanOliver I like the last question in the Related list
 
8:09 PM
lol. Didn't see that
 
@Makyen As I wrote, I didn't try myself, but I don't see why it would not be possible to run the bookmarklet by typing a hotkey if the browser supports hotkeys for such actions. Or maybe call it a macro-key. Alternatively, some keyboard support macros, so if, as you say, you can invoke the bml by a keysequence, that would definitively be a way.
Nevermind, just my 2 ct.
@Machavity LOL! How could I live without JQuery until now?
 
Ron
@Olaf Click to copy (and paste) without stealing the focus.
 
@Ron What's it supposed to do anyway?
 
@Olaf At least in Firefox, the keys required depend on where the user places the bookmarklet within their bookmarklet folders and the structure the user uses for those folders. Thus, whatever did it would have to be customized to each user. I have used such things. There are a variety of scripting languages which allow you to take control from the windowing system level. But it's not something that can be done from within a bookmarklet, because the code doesn't run until clicked.
 
Ron
@Olaf Edited instead of posting, nvm. Oh and sits on top of all windows and allows for dragging around.
 
8:16 PM
@Makyen Maybe I wasn't clear enough: I did not mean to generate a hotkey/etc from within the script. I just commented on you stating that one has to use the mouse to run the bml anyway.
@Ron Why do you need a program to have a window always in front? Just set that option in the window manager for that window (typically a checkmark in the window's context menu). For the rest there is Klipper. Oh, sorry, I forgot … windows:-P
 
@Olaf You're correct that I was overlooking some possibilities in that comment. I should have edited it prior to sending it, but got called away from my keyboard and just hit enter :-(.
 
@Makyen Yes, that's what I also alyways say ;-)
 
Ron
@Olaf For fast copy-paste of predefined string literals into appropriate containers without stealing the focus. Quick form fill is one of them. Boilerplate comments/strings too.
 
@Olaf :-)
 
Ron
@Olaf And you don't even have to press Ctrl + V. Now isn't that comfort worth $9.99?
Plus VAT if in EU. ;)
 
8:27 PM
@Ron Storing the/a password in that app does not really sound like a good idea.
@Ron I have such tools for free in KDE. Sorry, no need;-)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Those specific flags drop from our queue, but if there are multiple such flags raised, we get an auto-flag on the user.
 
Ron
@Olaf It's some bogus password, it also has a password generator but I keep that as a separate command line tool.
@Makyen But keep the X button if possible.
*can you please keep, that is
@Olaf Have you watched SpaceX first stage rocket landings? Talk about embedded.
 
@Ron The X is useful for those that use the bookmarklet with a hand on the mouse. Thus, I have no plan to remove it. While it would be possible to remove the X button, it would require additional code, as the notification is displayed using a function within the Stack Exchange code, which is running in the page, that automatically includes the X.
 
@Ron What why where when?
 
Ron
@Makyen I see.
@Olaf The first stage rocket takes off, delivers a second stage into orbit and then smoothly comes down to launch pad.
 
8:39 PM
I came across this question on the SE universe askubuntu.com/questions/964877/…
 
@Ron Yes, so? How is that more related to embedded than say - any modern car?
 
How would a local government make the switch from Windows to Ubuntu?
 
@Compass Painfully and with much confusion
 
Ron
@Olaf Oh it just goes to orbit and back, no biggie.
 
@Compass No idea, but you can ask the Munich people how to make the opposite switch: by getting MS headquarter from a village 20km out of town into town. Maybe certain suitcases also played a role :-(
 
Ron
8:41 PM
@Olaf Were you involved with the space industry, or aeronautics?
 
@Ron I held 2 or 3 presentations and designed something. But that's all. Too many unittest and MISRA preachers.
 
Ron
@Olaf I see.
 
8:57 PM
wow
 
Am I insane for wanting to reject an edit that adds indentation to code (the code was formatted correctly (in that it's in a code block), but this is adding proper indentation)
 
@Justin indentation edits are a debated subject
if it adds indentation where there is none then I would approve it, perhaps
if it changes indentation, say from 4 to 2, or uses a different case, etc., I would reject it
 
Ron
@Justin I also approved it. There was none, looks better now.
@TylerH I agree.
@Justin Eeer, I thought you approved it. Nvm, no biggie, is a 50/50 border case.
 
@Ron That's smth I do on SO, is I make a decision and ask about it after. Aka I branch predict.
 
Ron
@Justin Me too.
can't decide between Hyundai Tucson and Hyundai i30...
What do you guys think? Keep in mind that it's Europe roads.
 
9:06 PM
@Ron I just bought a 2017 Hyundai Tucson Sport 1.6L Turbo in June
 
Ron
@TylerH My man.
 
It's definitely going to give you better performance than the hatchback
 
Ron
Tell me more, tell me more. Is there any body roll? MPG?
 
yes, but it's controlled
I am averaging about 22mpg driving in the city aggressively
about 330miles - 350miles per tank
much more on the highway
Only thing I don't like is that because it's a turbo, sometimes there's a noticeable split second delay between when I depress the gas pedal and when it actually responds
this might be normal, but it's my first time owning a turbo, so it's really jarring coming from my previous car, which started accelerating the moment you depressed the gas pedal
 
Ron
I see. Automatic gearboxes are not that popular here.
 
9:11 PM
Oh, the tires on the Tucson are low profile, so they might feel a little splashy when the roads are wet
but you could probably get different tires
I dunno about the i30
 
Ron
Oh, man now you got me thinking. I was 80/20 on i30, now not so sure.
New i30 does look a little blunt.
 
I mean, looks-wise, the Tucson wins hands down but driving is important
I would take each one for a test drive if I were you
that's really the only way to know for sure
 
Ron
Exactly.
I plan to drive a lot so comfort weighs heavy.
 
I love the heated seats in my Tucson
infotainment center is kind of nice
there is a USB port and a 3.5mm jack but the USB port is low power
 
Ron
I see.
 
9:15 PM
so charging is slow. The cigarette lighters are way faster if you have a car charger that plugs into one of those
that's probably going to be the same across models though
Kind of bummed there's no map/wayfinding built into the car
my dad's 2005 Acura TL had it
not sure why it isn't standard on all cars these days
 
Ron
It's not too short, is it?
 
length wise or height?
 
Ron
Length.
 
if you fold down the back seats you can fight a bike in there no problem
if you don't have a roof rack
or a tail rack
 
Ron
I see.
 
9:18 PM
the spare tire is under the mat in the trunk
you can reposition the trunk mat's 'floor level' to one of two or three positions which is nice
if you need an extra inch or two of height
 
Ron
I see... Plenty to consider.
 
One thing I don't like is that the storage pockets on the back of the front seats are just mesh cord
rather than a solid material
kind of hard to one-handedly slip the sun visor back there
Tucson does have a great backup camera and collision detection though
especially for when stuff isn't visible to you
haven't had any false positives either so far
brb
 
Ron
Very nice info, thanks Tyler.
Night all.
 
GN @Ron
 
nn
 
9:27 PM
@Ron I like Ford, the Hundais are too weakly powered (remember I use German Autobahn;-)
Btw: What's the Tucson? One of these "compensation" cars? I mean SUVs?
 
I can never get over the fact that "Tucson" isn't pronounced "tucks-n" but is pronounced "two-sawn"
 
@TylerH: Most cars for US and Europe are pretty differently equipped. This can go as far as to have (different optics, motors and suspension.
 
@Justin I know, I always spell it Tuscon
and have to correct myself
 
@briantist Ehm, not exactly.
 
@Olaf true, but I can give him all the info on how the American version drives
@briantist try [tag:reopen-pls] first of all
 
9:33 PM
I did.. it didn't render, so I tried it the other way
 
it's because you used fixed font
 
Oh, I copied/pasted from the FAQ, I guess that's why
 
and hit shift+enter to do multi-line
that breaks formatting in chat
 
@TylerH Which might help him little, as there are most likely a lot of differences, expecially in details. Not to forget you might have a very different focus on features. I - for instance - weight good suspension, power and brakes a lot. Vital if you drive 200+km/h
 
oops, that was probably it, the shift-enter
 
9:35 PM
@Olaf it helps him a lot more than not having any info
plus I doubt anyone would be driving it that fast except on the autobahn
at which point handling isn't that important because you're going straight
I don't know what country Ron lives in but he did say "european roads" which are often very winding
which also means a speed limit about 100km/h less than your figure
btw a Tucson is a crossover utility vehicle
 
@Olaf so was it just my formatting that's wrong, or should I have not requested the reopen here in the first place? I can repost with correct formatting, but if the request was inappropriate I don't want to do that..
 
I'm not sure what you would think it's compensating for. It's literally an 'in-the-middle' car
that's the whole point of a CUV
and an SUV, too
they're not vans or trucks or cars, they're inbetweens
 
@TylerH He has to find out himself anyway. Even the quality might differ because cars for the US and European market could be build in different factories with different quality. I remember there were problems with Ford Fiesta from Barcelona (IIRC) rusting while the Köln built Fiesta had no problems. However, I don't like these gasoline-burner SUVs anyway.
 
@Olaf yep, I told him a test drive was the best test
 
@briantist IDK powershell (intgersting there are really ppl using it), so can't judge from the contents. Re-open votes are ok here bascially, so formally ok if you get the syntax right. (No worries, we are still human (mostly/most of us), so we can tolerate an error or two;-)
 
9:41 PM
though getting 25mpg in the city is not a gas guzzler :-) you must be thinking trucks that get like 10 to 15mpg
probably closer to 10 in the city
 
@TylerH That will never show all. Until now, no dealer has allowed me to test the airbags. But how do I know I like them without? (on second thought, I might have been lucky they were all men until now)
 
I stop by the gas station like every 2 weeks for my Hyundai Tucson
 
Thanks @Olaf .
 
@TylerH Well, I stop every some months with my Focus.
 
@Olaf that's not something anyone tests when they test drive a car
 
9:44 PM
@TylerH Sure? Hmm, but that was a feature they emphasised a lot when they came out in smaller cars. So why not test them?
 
@Olaf Because first of all the collision required for it would be expensive and the the owner of the vehicle would not want to pay for that every time someone test drove it
and that's the point of certifications guaranteeing they will work
I'm not going to continue responding to such trolling
 
@TylerH But that's what insurance is for. And test cars. I've seen the ADAC etc. doing such tests. So why should we not? I already told them I'll be very carefull crashing the wall.
 
@Olaf yes but you probably don't drive 30 miles a day, plus the focus is a tiny little putz of a car, of course it goes forever, it has no power
 
@TylerH Yes, we use internalional, reasonable units, i.e. km, not miles. Wrt the power: Did you ever drivee a Focus ST, not to mention the RS?? And even for my "small" car (why do you need your living room on the street?), 210km/h is most likely faster than your Tuscon can support. After all, It has definitively more Nm in its 2l Diesel than a 1.6l (gasoline I assume?)
And you don't know how I drive:-)
 
10:22 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis dat edit...
 
@Machavity Is that the right link ^
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis sigh Was a dupe target
Any ROs on? Can you bin that last request please?
 
Hiya! o/
 

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