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2:00 PM
you youngin
 
I was the first astronomer
 
dang
you salty
 
Everyone came up to me and was like Kieran, Your astronomy is so good, you have the best astronomy
 
user7480455
lol space is fascinating...
 
lmao
 
2:01 PM
And then the austronaut nation attacked @Kieran
 
@007 And deadly. Very deadly.
 
@KamilSolecki lmao
 
user7480455
my area of study when I was at university was about main sequence stars
 
@KendallFrey
 
user7480455
space is deadly
 
2:01 PM
could he be telling the truth? or full of shit?
 
@KendallFrey is always full of shit. That's why he poops as often as he does.
2
 
idk what a main sequence star is
i figured you were smart
apparently, i was wrong
 
@Steve'saD that's a real thing
 
The sun is a main sequence star
 
2:03 PM
 
also known as a dwarf star
 
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you too can become a master of astronomy like me
just follow this simple tutorial
In astronomy, the main sequence is a continuous and distinctive band of stars that appears on plots of stellar color versus brightness. These color-magnitude plots are known as Hertzsprung–Russell diagrams after their co-developers, Ejnar Hertzsprung and Henry Norris Russell. Stars on this band are known as main-sequence stars or "dwarf" stars. These are the most numerous true stars in the universe, and include the Earth's Sun. After a star has formed, it generates thermal energy in the dense core region through nuclear fusion of hydrogen atoms into helium. During this stage of the star's lifetime...
 
interesting
 
user7480455
ahh Kieran you do know space
 
2:04 PM
Space is interesting as fuck
I could read about space alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll day
 
kendall and I are reading an interesting book
on space and the cosmos
 
I could talk about space all day too
 
we're doing a book club
 
orly
 
yep
 
2:04 PM
@Steve'saD Not anymore we're not :'(
 
@KendallFrey yeah we are, im a little behind because im super stressed
but give me a few weeks and i'll be down to finish
 
oh ok
 
user7480455
it is... but after the accident in 69' my dominate eye issues and visual degeneration I had to leave the sciences
 
if others would like to join the book club, i'm not against it, if kendall isn't
 
user7480455
same here... we know so little about what actually is...
 
2:06 PM
kendall, link the book
 
also "finish", we've done 3 chapters of almost 60
 
@KendallFrey you set the pace
i said we should go quicker
 
^ we're only on chapter 4
@KendallFrey i know, but don't act like i haven't waited a week for you ;)
 
Oh yeah March break
that was a loooong time ago ;)
 
2:07 PM
lol i know
 
user7480455
just to look up at the night sky and see all that is... is mind bending
 
@Kieran. @007.@Steve'saD. Long time ago, the three astronomers lived together in harmony. Then, everything Changed when the astronaut nation attacked. Only @JABFreeware , master of all three galaxies, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he went to Mexico. Two days passed, and I discovered a new astronomer, a code-bender named @KendallFrey. And although his code-bending skills are great, he has to learn before he can save anyone. But I believe @KendallFrey can save the world!
 
sorry!
JAB is on his way to mexico
 
@KamilSolecki I don't bend code, I fucking break the shit out of it
 
@Steve'saD fixed.
 
2:08 PM
:)
 
@KendallFrey think we might be code-related.
 
Kendall and I are doing a book club on This space book. We're only on chapter 4. If you are interested hit one of us up for more information
3
 
It's not an astronomy book, it's more of a philosophy book
 
so dumb steve
you are so dumb
 
parentheses go the other way, I do the same everytime
 
user7480455
2:10 PM
so here is a question for those that space// it is not c# related...
 
user7480455
but do you think we are in a spiral galaxy?
 
I think that's the consensus, but I don't know why.
 
user7480455
why do you say yes?
 
Because Star Trek Voyager showed me how the universe works.
 
2:11 PM
lol
 
Because we can view distinct separate "arms"
 
user7480455
we can kramb?
 
@Kramb It's not actually that easy
 
user7480455
that not really fact
 
2:12 PM
> A 12-year study published in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society has confirmed that our Milky Way Galaxy has four spiral arms, following years of debate that it has only two arms.Dec 29, 2013
 
007 has us all ignored
it's bugging me, im going to kick him in a few
 
monologue mode: on
 
I'm gonna warn him if he derails the conversation
 
> Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilization, to boldly go where no one has gone before…
 
Well we can also assume as much because our galaxy bulges at the center and looks like a disk when looking toward the galactic center.
 
2:13 PM
TUMDUMDUMDUM.. DUNDUNDUNN!!! TUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN, DUNDUNDUUUUNN
 
user7480455
there is a cluster at the center...
 
I might do yall a frighten, but I have only seen maybe 3-5 episodes of star trek
 
@Kramb Just looking at the galaxy doesn't tell us much other than that it's flat
 
@007 Right, hence the bulge
 
2:14 PM
@KamilSolecki What's wrong with you?
 
@KamilSolecki get out
 
@RoelvanUden I just... never did. Ive seen the cartoon version though XD
 
user7480455
there are other types that have been observed Kramb
 
@KendallFrey Which, when compared to observable galaxies, is the attribute of a spiral galaxy
 
user7480455
with a cluster... the fact is that we don;t know
 
2:15 PM
Isn't that an attribute of all mature galaxies?
 
^ you didn't know in 1967
 
The cluster is present because of the black hole.
 
@Kramb I don't think that's true
 
100% true
 
2:15 PM
@KendallFrey IDK about that one
 
user7480455
not so kramb
 
soooo true!
 
The black holes in galaxies don't have much to do with the shape of the galaxy, afaik
 
> What is the nature of the universe?
- The universe is a spheroid region, 705m in diameter.
Star trek has spoken.
 
it's more of a common-cause thing
 
user7480455
2:16 PM
a gravity well is all a so called black hole is based on theory
 
@RoelvanUden :)
 
our big bang was also a local small big bang, with small local big bangs happening every second somewhere in the cosmos
AINT THAT RIGHT KENDALL
 
@Steve'saD [...]1967 colt 45, holding back the vampires, keeping me alive, there's an envelope with some cash in it out by the front door, this is what they make you take the medication for. - Aesop Rock - Coffee
 
How can a big bang be "local" when it happens at every point in the whole universe?
 
I'm trying to find the gif of our galactic core's stars. Saw it the other day and though it looked cool.
 
2:17 PM
@KendallFrey thats my point - it doesn't
we have 0 proof of that
bloooop bloooop mother fucker
 
@Steve'saD isnt that just a perfect reference? :D
 
At the instant of the big bang, there is only one point in the universe.
 
@Steve'saD Homogeneity is a pretty good reason to think so, IMO
 
i disagreeeeeeee
 
2:18 PM
We're all simulations. If we start chanting random numbers, we'll all shout the same numbers. That's because computers are bad with random numbers.
 
user7480455
lol
 
6
 
2:19 PM
345
 
oh fuck
 
788
 
user7480455
the fact is most of space since is theory
 
@Hypersapien saved the day
 
2:19 PM
3.14159265359
 
Do you disagree that homogeneity is evident, or that homogeneity implies a universe that is smooth at all times and places?
 
we don't know half as much as we think we do about space
 
The most of everything is theory, and it seems to hold as true until a better theory comes along. Such is the nature of life.
 
We know more about space than we do our own ocean
let that sink in
 
@Kieran I don't believe you picked that randomly
 
2:20 PM
heh
 
i mean we just went to Jupiter and most of our assumptions and calculations were off significantly.
 
user7480455
in my study they claim the sun is this many years old and that it will burn for this many years is how do you say... bullocks
 
@Hypersapien i don't know what your talking about
 
I fear nobody got my simulation reference. Are you all terrible people who don't watch Doctor Who?
 
Here it is
 
2:20 PM
but yeah, i'll believe you all when you say we know x, outside the visible universe
 
 
user7480455
the sun could blink off tomorrow and turn back on Friday...
 
@RoelvanUden , system.web.http.dispatcher was found in 4.5 but can't find it in 4.0
do you have any idea
 
user7480455
then what theory out the window
 
@RoelvanUden I haven't seen the last season or so.
 
2:21 PM
@007 I'll bet you ALL the money that it doesn't.
 
@Bassem Reference to System.Web.Http fucked?
@Hypersapien :-(
 
@Steve'saD Do you deny that extrapolation/induction is a good way to investigate the unknown?
 
Im not a fan of Dr. Who
 
I seriously want to get this and play with it
 
@KendallFrey does that mean we can't be wrong?
 
user7480455
2:21 PM
gosh I wish I could see your picture krumb
 
No, it means we can have a pretty good idea
 
system.web.http OK
but system.web.http.dispatcher Not OK
 
we have intelligent guesses
 
user7480455
but I guess it may be the study that was conducted back in the 90s
 
that doesn't equate to a pretty good idea
 
2:22 PM
@RoelvanUden I am a terrible person that havent seen yet another show
 
look at jupiter
 
@RoelvanUden i just need to use IAssembliesResolver clas
 
it's right in our back yard and we were wrong about so much
 
IAssembliesResolver exist in dispatcher
 
@Steve'saD In my book it does
 
2:23 PM
@Steve'saD I was floored when I learned that Jupiter actually had a ground to land on.
 
@KamilSolecki I fear I must revoke your RO status. Reason: Not enough sci-fi bruh.
 
did they say that @Kramb?
i thought they were still trying to figure that out
 
How far up do I have to scroll to see what we 'have a good idea of' and/or 'are ignorant fools'?
 
@RoelvanUden although I am much into quantum theories --- will it count?
 
@Kramb what? source? it has a rocky core, but that would be down deep in a very very dense atmosphere, i thought.
 
2:24 PM
@KamilSolecki No, science fact != science fiction.
 
@Steve'saD I thought the Russians crashed a satellite into it. Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
 
user7480455
lol at Roel!
 
@RoelvanUden I watched a shitton of flat earth vids, that makes me up in science fiction by a notch
 
@Kramb Did it manage to survive until it found a non-gaseous surface, and transmit the data about it back to Earth?
That seems a tough job
 
@KendallFrey Yea, there is a video I'm thinking of.
 
2:26 PM
@KamilSolecki ... Yeah. That's like the Bollywood of science fiction though. And worse, it has a cult.
 
The video shows a bunch of clouds, then ground, then nothing.
Because bang
 
@RoelvanUden There's a flat earth cult?
 
We can barely survive on the surface of Venus for much time. Jupiter is a problem.
 
@KendallFrey Everyone that believes in it.
 
2:27 PM
or else how would you call people who blindly follow theories
^ bait ^
 
I wouldn't call believing in something false a cult
 
@KendallFrey yet all cults do
 
Sure
 
A necessary, but not sufficient, condition
 
Precisely
 
user7480455
2:27 PM
theories are just the that The Stories... we tell to try to understand
 
Oops. My bad everyone. It was Titan, not Jupiter. How the hell did I get it THAT confused.
 
That makes more sense.
 
that changes everything @Kramb
 
It does. I am ashamed.
 
The difference between a cult and a religion is that at the top of every cult, there is one person who knows that the whole thing is a load of bullshit. With a religion, that person is long dead.
 
2:28 PM
I literally started scouting web thinking how did I not hear that Jupiter has a rocky bottom
 
user7480455
oh wow hyper
 
@Kramb I thought that didn't sound like Jupiter
 
Though Jupiter does likely have a rocky core down there, somewhere, it'll be below some metallic hydrogen. and probably be a molten soup.
 
user7480455
Jupiter may have an liquid metal core
 
Fun fact, Jupiter gives off more heat than it gets from the sun.
 
2:30 PM
Metallic hydrogen?
 
@Hypersapien I would define a cult as a group doing brainwashing or some kind of psychological manipulation in an attempt to prevent members from being able to leave. Not all religions do this.
 
Hydrogen, when compressed to extreme amounts, acts metallic (electron flow easier, etc)
 
user7480455
but they don;t think she has crust or mantle
 
user7480455
she is just pie... no shell as they say
 
2:30 PM
It's a theory as to where Jupiter gets its strong-ass magnetic field.
 
user7480455
gods can be female
 
good guy jupiter
 
Thought we were talkin about Jupiter the planet, not Jupiter the mythical god (who was a MAN)
 
user7480455
who says Kamil?
 
I'm talking about the planet, but maybe the god also has a tough nuget center.
 
2:32 PM
@Luggage I think that's largely a guess at this point, afaik there haven't been extensive experiments on that
 
user7480455
the Greeks I guess
 
user7480455
or was that Roman?
 
Jupiter was a Roman god
The planet names were taken from the Roman pantheon
 
I thought someone made metallic hydrogen in a lab once, but yea. I'm not sure how sure "we" are.
 
@007 Jupiter was from Roman mythology
 
2:33 PM
Planets are Roman gods and moons are Greek gods? Something like that
 
user7480455
some think Jupiter is a star that did not ignite
 
It's many times too small to start fusion, but it's very similar to what a star is made of (we think).
 
user7480455
and that our system was a binary star system
 
There is a nice continuum of gas giant -> brown dwarf -> star.
 
@Luggage Yes, although there are some ideas of how the experiment could have failed, and I never heard about a replicating experiment.
 
2:34 PM
I think Jupiter would need to be three times more massive to ignite into a star
 
user7480455
but if that was the case their would be no Saturn (That is where I'm From) and the other Gas Giants
 
user7480455
that is true hyper
 
A star isn't like a match, where it either lights or it doesn't
 
user7480455
some say the extra gas is in the other gas giants
 
@KendallFrey except in nassault videos
 
2:35 PM
lol
 
I love that one, even though it's ludicrous.
 
user7480455
not sure I buy that... but once a star does ignite its mass jumps up
 
Where does the extra mass come from?
 
@007 That sounds like a huge pile of bullshit
 
Sounds really improbable
 
user7480455
2:36 PM
look at the mass of Aldebaran
 
user7480455
and they is just one that we have seen
 
@Luggage it just depends on how the gasses that the solar system forms out of group together.
@Luggage Oh, never mind. I didn't see what you were responding to
 
@007 Please link a source to what you're talking about.
 
user7480455
stars are fascinating...
 
@007 Are you familiar with the Law of Conservation of Energy/Mass?
 
2:37 PM
@007 that would mean that there would have to be some insane quantum phenomena happening, with flux fields spawning a shitton of virtual particles
 
user7480455
I am
 
user7480455
that is a man made concept hyper
 
man, if lighting hydrogen on fire made it heavier, I can make a perpetual motion machine. And since perpetual motions machines are banned by the thermodynamics treaty of 1.0e-123, we know that's not possible.
 
user7480455
stars are not man made
 
user7480455
space is not man made
 
2:39 PM
It is an observation of how the universe works
 
well we either keep to theories or base our speculation on some evidence @007
 
user7480455
by man
 
Who do you think you are? Deepak Chokra? :)
 
@007 If you're going to participate in a conversation on this chat, please do not ignore the other people in the conversation. If you continue to ignore people who are trying to talk to you, you will be kicked, and asked to take your conversation to another room.
 
@Luggage lol
 
2:40 PM
Deepak Chokra is either an idiot or a charlatan
 
user7480455
as I have stated before... physics is reverse engineering of what we see and can conceptualize.. it is not right nor wrong
 
user7480455
ok pwny... thanks I will stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
^ I agree and I do not agree
 
@007 Where do YOU get the idea that stars increase their mass when they ignite?
 
2:41 PM
Yeah that seems insane
 
user7480455
hyper I have been asked to stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
user7480455
thanks good convo
 
@007 I will expect to have my main account un-ignored by you.
 
lmfao
 
user7480455
2:42 PM
I don;t know wow u are and I will just follow your orders to stop my convo
 
@007 You were asked to either stop or not ignore people.
 
I don't think anyone is against you providing a source for your claims and conversing..
 
@007 you were asked to unignore people
When shit gets real, the charlatans dissapear
 
user7480455
guys I am not chatting any more please continue
 
lemme guess, your proof that stars gain mass when ignited is under audit by the IRS so you can't release it.
 
2:43 PM
@007 Alright, keep that in mind the next time you want to talk here. People might want to talk to you, too.
 
user7480455
understood thanks
 
@Luggage you dare to undermine an ex-astronomer?
 
I dare.
I double ping dare.
 
@007 truth or dare then?
 
user7480455
but just like I told the other mod... I only have a few people ignored and they know they are ignored.. so if they are talking to me that is on them... but I don;t want to disrupt so I will bow out... and listen to what is said
 
2:44 PM
YOU DARE DARE A DARER?
 
@KamilSolecki One that baselessly claims we've observed a star "ignite" and increase in mass by itself?
 
@KendallFrey its been said, must be true.
Try to believe
Follow the path of light
JK, is bullshit
(not John Kennedy)
 
What is JK?
 
just kidding
 
JK = Just Kidding
 
2:47 PM
oh
 
now, fixed
 
I missed it in that context
 
comas save lives
grammar does too
 
And spelling
 
Ye I meant spelling :D (sinks into his chair, seeing as his pun was a failed attempt)
 
2:48 PM
@KamilSolecki Let me guess. You once helped your uncle jack off a horse?
Or perhaps cooked your family and your pets?
 
Ah right
Correct.
Although the horse had a suprisingly big shlong. @KendallFrey
 
i managed to get the app running at least
 
In other news, I've surveyed a good place for my next Mun base
 
@KendallFrey ksp?
 
aye
I may make an outpost at the arch, too, which isn't too far away
 
2:52 PM
Yesterday's convo in JS room made me wanna play some rimworld today
Guess time will fly
 
More cowboy hats made from the "special" leather
 
I wanna do some farmin this time
Make a colony that doesn't need to hunt at all
Agriculture is where it's at
 
I usually do both
 
Me too, but I always keep my farmin to minimum
 
You can't make anything above simple meals without meat.
 
2:55 PM
Time for a change
I'll make my colonists full vege
Brb drivin
 
user7480455
you like meats hyper
 
@KamilSolecki "one of us, one of us, one of us!"
 
3:17 PM
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@rlemon With time, I shall become a JS person
 
Good morning all. I'm having an issue with SystemEvents.SessionSwitch. For the most part, this event is raised whenever someone logs on or off, locks or unlocks, remotes in or disconnects. However, it seems like it doesn't get raised if a user locks their comp, then remotes in from another location. Has anyone worked with this event before or know of a good work-around?
 
@KamilSolecki we're the best people
 
Hmm systemevents.sessionlock SHOULD work @BrandenBoucher
 
@KamilSolecki I made that assumption as well. Then my program stopped working.
 
3:21 PM
Did you try it in a new project?
 
I narrowed it down to that scenario
Ya, my actual project and then a little sandbox app <--- this was supposed to be a sanity check. It had the opposite effect.
 
> Firestarters of the world, ignite! - graffiti
 
@BrandenBoucher huh, weird. I'm afraid I won't be of any help then :/
 
user7480455
A play on the Benetton Phrase
 
user7480455
anyone here wear Benetton by the way?
 
3:25 PM
all good
what's Benetton?
 
@rlemon Right now its finally time to build my actual view as I've worked out react .net
@BrandenBoucher clothes company
I think women only not sure tho
 
user7480455
it is a fashion house from the 80s
 
kill it with fire
 
user7480455
no they are unisex
 
3:27 PM
Yep youse right just checked
 
user7480455
nice kit for sure
 
@KamilSolecki that's the most fun part /s
 
@rlemon I'll make it pretty, I promise!
 
user7480455
I was a big fan of theirs and an their ad campaigns
 
user7480455
It was Colours Of The World Unite!
 
user7480455
3:29 PM
good stuffs!
 
3:51 PM
@rlemon just how cool is my clickety-clackety button?
var React = require('react');

class Front extends React.Component
{
    constructor() {
        super();
        this.onLike = this.onLike.bind(this);

        this.state = {
            like: 0
        }
    }

    onLike() {
        this.setState({
            like: this.state.like + 1
        });
    }

    render() {
        return <button onClick={this.onLike}>{this.state.like}</button>;
    }
}

module.exports = Front;
100% coolness
 
import React from 'react';

export default class Front extends React.Component {
    constructor(props) {
        super(props);
        this.state = {
            count: 0
        }
    }
    handleLike() {
        const {count} = this.state;
        count += 1;
        this.setState({count});
    }
    render() {
        return <button onClick={_=>this.handleLike()}>{this.state.count}</button>;
    }
}
alternative writing for that
 
Neat thanks
Also, as I cannot find an answer
@html.react fequires me to pass props. What do I pass, when there are no props? (Props Parm is generic and cannot inherit type from null)
I do realize it's a react.net thing, just figured you may have an idea
 

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