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12:00 AM
thank you.
now off to the review queue as roll over has just passed. lol
OCD the gift that just doesn't know how to stop giving.
 
12:15 AM
Ah, so close to ninjaing smokey again. :)
 
1:06 AM
unregistered member for 6years?
ok then
 
Link is dead anyways, NAA flag and done.
 
ok just noticed last active date
 
1:52 AM
ok well that is that and I am off to bed. bye yall. on the morrow
o/
 
 
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3:37 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Code added. Still hasn't explained what the problem is, though.
 
@SmokeDetector sd f
Appears to be reference to Greek city of Lesbos: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbos
 
 
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5:00 AM
 
5:42 AM
I have gone over the open cv-pls requests to try to clear out the list a bit. If you have close votes to spare, please do the same. Use the Search script.
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o/
How many open ones do we have?
 
@Seth just under a single page but lots with just 1 or 2 votes
 
I see
@SamѲnela Please include a reason.
And besides, why would you want to close that.
 
@SamѲnela I believe the PHP community wants this open
 
5:58 AM
@SamѲnela I'm not going to close a community wiki with that many views. Don't be silly.
 
@rene views alone don't mean a question should stay open
 
that is true but all the factors there, CW, reasonable votes, many views, last active a couple of months ago make it for me a no close vote
I was only trying to elaborate on your and @Seth call to question if that shoud be closed.
 
I'd say the most compelling reason to keep it open is that the PHP community wants it so.
also that it's a canonical and we don't want to close canonicals
 
So, no closevote for that. Good :)
 
@JanDvorak that seems to be the best reason. If that is not yet in our FAQ, should we add it?
 
6:09 AM
vOv
 
Ah, that explains things :-)
 
Morning
 
o/
 
did you guys see the possessed cat
 
6:20 AM
@rene okay good call
 
6:49 AM
Morning
\o
 
o/
 
I'M GOING TO BED.
dives into the bed Splat
 
@Compass Why?
 
Why?
It's 3AM?
 
ô,o ...
Good ol' times, when there was no pressure to do anything, and I was able to stay up however long I liked without any negative impact...
 
6:55 AM
@Compass so? Cats nap all day, why is time all of a sudden a thing?
 
@rene imgur.com/tGW7hSb that is all
 
:D
4
 
@Compass Too much caffeine?
 
Just a time-reversed gif. The human may have had too much coffee, though
too broad, or poorly researched? stackoverflow.com/questions/43603910/…
 
7:12 AM
@JanDvorak both, too broad will work for me
 
7:25 AM
hi
 
7:58 AM
@SmokeDetector removed the link. OP claims it is a Chinese article by him about this issue, so I removed it on the premises of ti being a non-English link
 
8:11 AM
Morning all
Urgh, 420k user to new user: "frankly your code style is terrible"
 
8:30 AM
But I always thought that the general SE policy would be to duplicate vote based on answers rather than questions (not that I would personally support such a policy, but it seemed to be accepted, especially on the site this meta question is primarily concerned about). — Christian Rau Jun 9 '15 at 11:07
that's what I've been thinking, too. Is there another meta question with different guidance?
 
That's the beauty of meta. You can find support for any guidance.
 
I'd sort of need to find the opposite guidance
 
he who seeks shall find
 
@tripleee it doesn't really make much sense to do it differently. If the questions are exact duplicates they should be flagged for plagiarism ...
 
> Questions may be duplicates if they have the same (potential) answers. This includes not only word-for-word duplicates, but also the same idea expressed in different words.
 
8:34 AM
ô.ô
Good :)
 
@tripleee please don't give voting advice on meta posts here ...
 
didn't mean that as a recommendation, but fair enough
 
Thanks
 
8:51 AM
Morning all (*´∇`)ノ
 
\o\
 
Morning all
So not in work today...why you may ask? spontaneous pneumothorax...that's my week screwed. :D
 
What happened? Did you sneeze?
 
9:14 AM
@rene that can have an impact yes, but haven't violently sneezed recently to my knowledge. I've had surgery on both sides so usually if I do relapse it's usually bed rest and pain management but will have to monitor it. Thing is just been on annual leave for 4 days was back at work yesterday now I'm off with this, not great timing tbh.
 
@Lankymart that is not good then. Take it easy.
 
@rene thanks, will do.
 
9:48 AM
I believe the question is "What is the best way to handle page specific JavaScript for best performance?"
Then why did you bump it to the front page?
 
I use edits to explain to active users to guide them to writing better posts
 
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Q: Can we release the questions held hostage by the [hijack] tag

JamiecA recent question regarding a jQuery plugin named "hyjack" pointed me to a tag hijack and its pseudo-synonym hijacked. This seems a particularly good candidate for Burnination. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? To me, this appears to b...

 
In that case would you please edit the questions when they post them, not five years after?
 
10:05 AM
@halfer that^ and we already have enough posts to close, so please do not cv-pls extremely old posts, let's at least close the new ones for which also we need more people
 
10:19 AM
Is this NAA?
 
@Seth IMO yes
 
@AshishAhuja Flagged as such, the apple-picture that was posted by shog9 (?) says to flag shields that direct you to apples as NAA
:P
 
Is this question more of a fit for code review? OP has a working loop, but wants the runtime to decrease from 1 hour to a sensible time
 
@Seth :p
 
@Adriaan Nope, as that has a clear question ("Where's the bottleneck?")
 
10:26 AM
@Seth sure, but it has a fully working code, hence CR would be a better fit I think
 
Flagged a similar post a while ago, got rejected saying that specific questions regarding optimization are on-topic for SO, whereas general optimization questions like "How can I improve my code?"/"Take a look please" etc are suited better for CR
 
well, this is more or less a "take a look", since they didn't even profile to check which line should be optimised
 
@Adriaan IMO it should be migrated, but Seth does make a point. I would still flag for migration though
 
This question was what I flagged with "This is asking for a code-review, which we do not do afaik. It'd be better suited for CodeReview. I couldnt flag it for migration since CodeReview is not listed."
 
@Seth does that mean general CR questions are merely too broad, not off-topic?
 
10:27 AM
My flag was rejected with "declined - since the OP is asking to solve a specific problem, that makes it more SO and CR"
@JanDvorak I'd say that depends on the case, it can go either way I think
 
This is not a "specific problem" it's "Here is my code, please speed it up"
 
No.
 
@Adriaan I agree
 
It's "WHERE is the root of my problem"
And that is a clear and specific question.
If you want, go ahead & flag it.
I personally don't want yet another declined flag.
 
@Seth yes, I can read, thanks, but in that case it's still TB and, besides, they can simply run it through the build-in profiler. I flagged it for migration.
 
10:30 AM
how about no-mvce then?
 
@Adriaan You just do you :)
 
@SmokeDetector link to self-blog, no attribution, Otherwise good answer I think
 
@Adriaan No, the link is as an online training ad
It doesn't answer anything
That would be one tough audit
 
Nuked.
Well, tbh, audits are easy to game by just opening the question in another tab.
 
@Seth Heh, the title remarkably resembles a Markov chain
 
10:41 AM
Unsure? Better check.
@M.A.R. brb, googling
 
@Seth That's not gaming
It's called paying attention
And the audits are for those who don't
 
@Seth failed spam, I would guess
 
@M.A.R. thanks. I didn't click on the link and the rest of the post looked alright (from my stance of no Java knowledge)
 
@JanDvorak Ya, could be.
 
@Adriaan At first, I didn't flag as well, but David was smarter
 
10:43 AM
@M.A.R. I could technically just write a little userscript / bot that checks if the question / answer that I am currently reviewing is still available, or if it has been deleted
@M.A.R. David?
@M.A.R. Ew... It's math...
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 6 mins ago, by DavidPostill
@M.A.R. Link doesn't answer the question - it's an ad for training courses in Dehli. Not exactly useful unless you live there.
 
@Seth Evil SU mod ;)
 
@Seth Hey, it's not like I invented it
 
@rene O_O
@M.A.R. But u iz spreading dah diseaz :c
@M.A.R. Ah, makes sense c: Thx
 
I'd rather catch maths than textspeak, thank you
 
10:47 AM
@JanDvorak Mwahaha.
 
@JanDvorak thxuvrymch
 
You luckily cannot exactly catch that.
Except by portraying yourself as ultra-anti-txtspk, which could result in you getting targeted by native txtspk-speakers.
 
Ouch, text speak...
 
text to speak is fine. Text speak is not.
@Seth naa
 
10:49 AM
@JanDvorak Ok, thanks
Btw, is "thx" considered to be txtspk as well? o:
It doesn't exactly sound like thanks :s
 
@Seth Link-only
 
@Seth thx for bringing that up ...
 
@rene =D
yw
 
@Seth I used to say tnx until someone told me that they use thx instead, so I simply switched and never looked back ...
 
TIA
same number of letters, but abbreviates more words
 
10:57 AM
thx fits the definition of txtspk
It's not an abbreviation
 
It is more like TATF
 
I propose: abbreviating one word = textspeak. Abbreviating multiple words into one = acronym. TIA is fine, THX is kickable offense.
 
AACATMCTTSAL
 
wat?
 
@JanDvorak I have to kick myself often then ... :(
 
11:00 AM
@Seth Q has been migrated to CR
 
well, I think my proposal has just been destroyed :-D
 
@FOX9000 spam on our famous magnet
 
@Adriaan Brb, writing meta rant.
>:(
 
Yay
 
11:24 AM
Hello
@FireAlarm Unclear what you are asking
 
@Mistalis Jello
 
Morning
 
What do you think about this answer: http://stackoverflow.com/a/41461005/4927984
It only link to another answer on SO, I'm hesiting to flag it as VLQ...
 
No, it contains enough code to be an answer
Maybe
That's the same amount of code in the other answer
 
IMHO it is down vote/delete vote worthy, not flag worthy.
 
11:36 AM
IMHO if flagged, it's decline worthy
 
Ok, I was hesiting. I won't flag it
 
*hesitating
#Grammar-Nazi-FTW
 
@M.A.R. Thanks. Still interesting to improve my english! :-)
 
*Interested in improving?
 
Good god =|
 
11:44 AM
@Seth This offends my religious feeling. There is no god
 
Great. Now I am offended by your militant atheism.
 
@Olaf Maybe there is, maybe there isn't c: But I like yelling "DEAR LORD!" 'n stuff.
Just for funsies...^^
@JanDvorak Now I'm offended by you two being offended.
 
@JanDvorak Who saays atheism? That offends me
 
ò.ó ..
 
shakes head in disbelief
 
11:47 AM
Yeah, that's the point.
 
@rene :-D
 
@Mistalis *interested. Sorry, my habits of correcting others in ELL's main room has leaked to SOCVR
 
@NathanOliver wayyyyy too late
 
Nothing to see here. Move along citizen
 
@M.A.R. not a problem, we will leak our random cv-pls's to ELL ...
 
11:55 AM
@rene Fine by me
 
@M.A.R. *have
 
@tripleee would be interesting to see if our archiver script picks that up ....
 
@JanDvorak *haz
 
@rene deleted already anyhow
 
''haz'' haz placed itself in English as the appropriate auxiliary to replace both ''have'' and ''has''
 
11:57 AM
@tripleee anyhow, it doesn't :) and I go meh on that one ....
 
Let's unplace it before it does any more damage
 
I'm not sure that last report is spam
It has been on the site for over a year
 
I don't necessarily agree with nuking that.
I really don't.
:<
 
:{
Nuking what?
 
nuking what?
 
12:08 PM
closing isn't nuking
 
closing what?
 
Dunno
 
I mod flagged that last sd report @Seth
 
These couple lines could be in any Monty Python scene :D
 
@Shadow which?
 
12:20 PM
@M.A.R. 4 lines starting from Jan's nuking what to your dunno
 
@NathanOliver Good to know :) Thanks.
 
@Shadow oh, unintentionally funny
 
@M.A.R. I still had a good laugh :)
 
12:40 PM
morning!
 
o/
 
o/
 
o/
 
Sam
o/
 
12:48 PM
o/
 
gunr waves to himself or others?
 
myself. I'm self-centered
 
also, screw you, you broke the train
 
muhahaha
 
12:50 PM
o/
oops seems this train has gone
 
@Machavity I'm working on adding the first cv to posts
 
@gunr2171 Yeah. Lots of seeding work to do still. Queue hasn't topped 100 yet. Been trying to seed deletions too
 
Ah... I missed my train!!! :(
Hey, @NathanOliver @gunr2171 @Sam o/
 
Sam
12:57 PM
Hiya
 
unofficial rule #6 of SOCVR: you are always late for the train
 
@gunr2171 :( Something that you don't know. I am late to the office too! :( And home too! :(
 
@PraveenKumar rene will write you a note if you ask him
 
@Machavity Not needed. He should be happy in his world for so long without me. Let peace prevail. :D
 
1:03 PM
I'd go with POB (library is also fine)
 
POB.. :)
 
Aah, yeah, I was going by the book req. at the end.
 
either way works
I just go by the average close reason for all question sentences.
 
Should this be closed? stackoverflow.com/q/43611590
 
and that's my MSPaint quota for the week
 
1:12 PM
=D
 
@gunr2171: Heh, very nice! :) Next time around I'll be less lazy and dig up the "official" POB text from the SOCVR greasemonkey script...which is apparently just pob, doh!
 
no worries!
vb.net!?!?! Who uses vb.net anymore??!??
inb4 php joke
 
@gunr2171 I still use , but in a .Net environment is my preferred option.
 
: (
 
1:30 PM
@gunr2171 still a lot of clients to support unfortunately...would love to migrate them away, hopefully some day.
 
yuck
 
@PraveenKumar personally I like your response...people like that though, just move on from. Not worth the effort to try and help them in the first place.
 
@Lankymart Thanks bro! Just wanted to make sure that I am not rude and make the OP understand their fault. :(
 
@PraveenKumar offense is something the receiver determines, you can never prove the intent. I'd just put this as sarcastic/snarky. I'd just ignore it, remember: youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU
 
1:33 PM
@EdChum ROFL... That's awesome. I didn't know this... :D
 
@PraveenKumar lolz, those comments
 
@Seth I am still ROFLing...
 
@Lankymart Btw, what did you do to have that pneumo thing happen to you? Did you punch yourself? ô.ô
@PraveenKumar :D
Or does that happen randomly
 
Ha ha.
 
Actual question, our bodies decide to screw us in the most random ways.
 
@kayess insert get-some-repz-img
 
@kayess no lasting value i.stack.imgur.com/BxPcL.png
 
@PraveenKumar Most of these things are usually culture related, every country has their own culture, and some of these cultures are either more direct, or take things more personally than they should compared to out cultures
 
@Ferrybig :)
 
Yeah
That gives rise to some interesting Lost in Translation thingies
 
1:50 PM
@kayess Your twitter account isn't working. :/
 
In Korea, a lot of signs read "We don't want your dog's s**t here"
 
@M.A.R. Ha ha... Same in Britain too! Some are too vulgar.
 
No, I mean it literally says that
 
@PraveenKumar check now!
 
@kayess Eh... You just did some ninja edit. Not acceptable.
throws @kayess out of the window
 
1:54 PM
@Seth just happened back in 2000 was told then it was genetic, happens in young tall slender males. Had surgery on right and left side, but left still occasionally relapses...but not much they can do for me, so bed rest and pain killers.
 
@PraveenKumar Lands on @Kyll
 
@gunr2171 Me when I don't realize I'm looking at vb.net specific documentation on MSDN because their hierarchy sucks
and then it throws an error in Excel because it's not VBA
 
@Lankymart That's not cool. >:
 
@TylerH I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
first one's an audit, nice
 
1:57 PM
TylerH passed a audit!
 
@TylerH I tweeted about this but never got a reply. In Google finding the VBScript documentation is impossible whereas in bing its top of the list.
@Seth I'm used to it.
 
@kayess .... :D
 
We really should make an SOCVR twitter group and get lots of tweets closed
 
>.< ...
I am not using & I will nevuuur use Twitter
 
@gunr2171 Your freehand red circles don't make any sense... oh, wait
 
2:03 PM
I ain't no bird, goddamn :|
 
@kayess Yeah right, like Twitter has any kind of quality control
 
@TylerH You have the "Report tweet" option at worst
 
@kayess It's just a facade: Twitter does not have a department that handles user complaints
@ Room - Please don't flag language you might not like. If someone says a word you disagree with, ask them not to say it. Don't be passive aggressive.
3
 
@TylerH SO Chat Vote Rebukers
 
> Page Not Found
This question was removed from Stack Overflow for reasons of moderation. Please refer to the help center for possible explanations why a question might be removed.
yes, it advertises Stack Overflow
 
2:08 PM
Okay. Thanks!
 
:36798288 Yep. Advertised a service by the OP
 
:36798288 yes, Stocks API
 
@TylerH what kinda flag ?
 
I'll just cry in my "under 10k" corner now...
 
It would be neat if 10k users had access to a "screenshot" link on deleted questions that they could use to show <10k users
or use for meta questions
@kayess someone flagged Seth's last message above
 
2:09 PM
/me invites @gunr2171 to the pre3k corner
 
@kayess I'm not going to stoop that low :)
 
@gunr2171 elitism!
 
@kayess 2171 is not his rep...
 
@Machavity let see 2.1.71 how darn old he is really
 
2171 is the year in which I will be born
 
2:11 PM
Could someone ban him 'till his DOB then ? :D
 
@kayess I used that as a simple example to demonstrate how MSDN results are sparse in Google but detailed in Bing.
 
@Lankymart gotcha
 
I think I missed the joke...
 
He's come back to warn us that we're all secretly building StackNet, which will take over the Internet and enslave us with cat videos
 
@Lankymart funny; I don't have a problem finding vbscript documentation in google
 
2:12 PM
@TylerH Lmao?
 
@kayess seeing someone was suspended for 100 years, I think that could actually happen. I'll start giving Jon scooby snacks now to prevent it.
 
@gunr2171 rofl!
 
I think the trick is to use 'VBA' in your search parameters if you want to find VB.NET or VBScript info
wait, that's your DOB gunr?!
 
I thought you were like... 30 D-:
 
2:13 PM
25
 
@gunr2171 o.O ...
 
@MadaraUchiha NOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
@TylerH Then you find VBA not VBScript...the correct documentation doesn't show in Google Search full stop.
 
@TylerH well no he is actually -154 years old only
 
@MadaraUchiha is my FAVORITE moderator and he would never do anything mean, like, to me, ever....
 
2:13 PM
TylerH passed a audit!
 
@Lankymart no the joke is that when you search VBA you find non VBA results
 
@kayess Hey now, that woke me up
 
@TylerH What flag reason was used if I may ask? :p
 
because MSDN's designed so poorly
 
Plop everyone!
 
2:14 PM
@Seth offensive IIRC
 
plop
 
@Kyll Hiya! \o
 
@TylerH Because I said that I am no bird?
Wut...
 
@Seth may next time you just write dod gamnit
 
@Seth no because you wrote a curse word
 
2:15 PM
@TylerH right, any search on Google for MSDN based docs is foobar tbh
 
just remember, the bird is the word
 
Is "god damn" a curse word?
 
@TylerH say if we rename gunr2171 to god2171 that'd be cursing ?
 
Learning new stuff everyday...
 
@Seth culturally it can be.
 
2:16 PM
@Lankymart to be fair it's much better if you append all your search queries with "MSDN"
 
@FOX9000 meh, fine
 
in that case the result you're looking for will usually be the first result
 
@Lankymart Hm. The german translation is actually used quite often, but not as a curseword, at least not on its own. Funny stuff.
 
@TylerH You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 20 minutes and 46 seconds, averaging to a review every 31 seconds.
 
@TylerH not in my experience, even tried with prefix site:msdn.microsoft.com to no avail, but Bing brings back the right result instantly.
 
2:19 PM
@Seth yes, damn is a curse word and "god damn" is usually offensive to anyone religious. Personally I don't mind it, but someone here cared enough to flag it
*insert shrug stick figure here*
 
@Lankymart what, bing did something right?
 
@gunr2171 they give you lots of travel points for searches too
Apparently
 
@TylerH Oh, I see :)
 
@gunr2171 I know right?? That in itself is fishy!
 
IMO if someone has a problem with it, they should just say they don't like that language and we can be adults about it, because, in a room where site moderation is organized, it's better to be friends and to be able to broach potentially unsavory topics w/o awkwardness or passive aggressiveness
 
2:22 PM
@Lankymart I think that it's nothing extraordinary... since MSDN is as well a M$ product like VB is and so is bing...
 
@kayess if they are massaging their SEO to block Google that's underhanded and annoying.
 
@TylerH Would've been easier for sure. Ah well.
 
Holy molly, their robots.txt!
I really miss the userscripts when using Chrome on my iPad :(
 
can moderators kill docs proposed topics yet?
 
@Lankymart you wonder what went wrong with Disallow: /en-usbrary ...
 
2:29 PM
@TylerH Based on this answer it's probably going to be 6-8 weeks
 
@rene someone screwed up somewhere
 
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