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1:20 AM
Anyone can tell me why the sort of answers in SO not working?
Ok
 
1:39 AM
I am leaning heavily to NAA here stackoverflow.com/a/26854031/5233410
 
1:58 AM
@Nkosi I would not flag that as NAA. Based on the answer right above it, it does appear to have code intended to actually answer the question. However, the user does tack on their own question, in addition to the answer. I left a comment.
A NAA flag is likely to be declined because that answer is not clearly not an answer to a person without technical knowledge, which is the criteria I see quite a bit when NAA flags are discussed on Meta.
 
2:15 AM
Off to bed, bye o/
 
@BaummitAugen cya!
 
2:33 AM
Well, so much for hope in humanity.... not even 10kers are able to read and follow instructions appropriately
@JAL when I see those questions, I rather close them as too broad...
 
 
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4:37 AM
@QPaysTaxes dupehammers my chat message
2
 
user3956566
4:49 AM
p: Q ᴉH
 
I find it funny that the spammer is asking for help writing their spam script.
@QPaysTaxes Here's a search on metasmoke
 
 
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8:30 AM
If there is a Java dev around, care to chime in here
 
 
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9:50 AM
@Queen k
 
10:07 AM
Hiya o/
 
dur
11:02 AM
Both questions have a (same) answer from the same user.
 
Does this edit looks legit?
 
Looks alright @Enzokie
 
ok thanks :)
 
11:20 AM
Morning. o/
No wonder we get so many dupes for that error message, the google search is terrible. :(
 
> I looked at the code a little better, and it's just full of errors.
:/
 
slowclap
 
11:45 AM
What do you think about this edit? It adds a link to "the RewriteRule docs", but it's not actually an Apache site.
 
12:14 PM
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 28 at 10:03, by Glorfindel
!!/report is broken, please do not use it until further notice
 
@JanDvorak Oh, I forgot about that. Thanks.
 
6 to 8 notices ...
 
Well my report command is not as effective as Smokey's :(
 
Try posting it in Charcoal
 
1:00 PM
 
@JanDvorak Too broad yes
 
1:19 PM
@JanDvorak or unclear, such a wall of text
@JanDvorak not customer support
 
1:36 PM
This answer is not in english stackoverflow.com/a/42596309/5233410
 
VLQ
 
ok cool
 
@FOX9000 Rolled back.
@NisseEngström Replied to the wrong report.
 
2:06 PM
@FOX9000 Edit collision. Repaired.
 
 
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4:20 PM
@QPaysTaxes Jon'd
 
 
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5:23 PM
@NisseEngström "Page Not Found"? How can a review page not be found?
 
SD it seems a legitimate answer from a team member
 
5:38 PM
re
 
@BaummitAugen grand
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Grand hand ouvert!!
 
@BaummitAugen So you know what I'm talking about ;-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Of course. :)
 
@BaummitAugen I've been playing Skat in my youth days. And we managed to have a diner within 1/2 a year.
@Baum There are more games with re, like Backgammon for example.
 
5:47 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I have a weekly Doppelkopf party, but when we are fewer than 4, we play Skat.
I'm not sure if Re is in the official Skat rules tbh.
 
@BaummitAugen You know Twister?
 
It is in Doppelkopf though.
Is it a card game, too?
 
@Baum Doppelkopf is similar to Schafkopf?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I don't know the Schafkopf rules tbh, but Doppelkopf evolved from it afaik.
 
@Baum Schafkopf can get weird if the other players decide to cooperate that you should be the victim in that game, or you simply expose yourself to that fight.
Keep counting the values.
 
5:56 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ That always helps.
 
6:27 PM
O_O
 
6:43 PM
Ah clicked the trigger button again without thinking report is broken
 
!!/alive
 
@JanDvorak Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
10
 
Sorry Smokey I'll make it up to you
 
@QPaysTaxes Of course. And we're proud of it.
We even have Nazi Bots nowadays :-P
 
I should probably disable my SD report userscript for the time being
 
6:48 PM
Cyclon B will be the next phase taking over Stack Overflow.
 
7:08 PM
^ Normally I would hammer, but they didn't use the JS tag. :/
 
@SmokeDetector Why is this starred? O.o
 
@M.A.R. That's not a report.
5
 
Ahh, that's why
 
Makes sense.
 
7:34 PM
Are pthreads on Windows by default?
 
@QPaysTaxes The simple reason is that most system with code written in C done even have an OS, or just a small OS. Like most desktop-developers, you forget that bare-metal MCUs outnumber the heavy-weight platforms by some decades.
And no, **most platforms do not have POSIX threads.
@QPaysTaxes Decades is not restricted to time!
@QPaysTaxes So what would you say if you mean "10**n"?
But magnitude does not necessarlily imply a power of ten.
I did not talk about developers, but platforms. An OS is typically not run on a developer (until now)
 
@Braiam An old friend of yours is back stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/internet
 
@QPaysTaxes Well, A friend of mine, who is a native speaker, also uses "decade" for powers of 10. Maybe there are regional differences about the semantics. Just remember the differences between BE and AE.
 
nooo don't burn it before Braiam said grace meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255169/… :)
 
@QPaysTaxes Read your comment carefully again. Said that: there are hundreds, if not thousand different CPU architectures. And even for the same family there is often not a single code-base possible. x86 and ARM are still a minority in terms of units sold as well as variety. Your assumption is highly disputable from my experience.
@QPaysTaxes A series is typically a set of different MCUs with a similar, but not necessarily identical subset of features. It does clearly not mean "the same device".
@QPaysTaxes That's not what your statment implied (and not relevant for it; C is most importatn for a variety of platforms and you cannot assume they will support threads. If you make threading support mandatory, you instantly would loose the majority of architectures.
So, no, the number of devs is completely irrelevant. The target market (i.e. use-cases) are relevant. C is meant for professional development, not for fun, so it has to match the reuqirements of the target market.
 
7:53 PM
hence no automatic consistency checks and such
 
@QPaysTaxes I'm confident there are a lot of resources about that.
 
C was made for low-performance devices, not for "professional market" in general
 
(btw: I'm not sure it was a good idea to add threading support to C11 at all. Not usre if there is any usabel implementation of them right now (MSVC does not even really support C11's mandatory parts completely).
@JanDvorak The standard targets professional software development. Not only academical purposes or hobbyists. The latter two typically don't case that much whether a language is officially standardised or not. Industry like Automotive, MediTec, Aerospace, etc. prefer a well-defined environment. The attitude might be disputable, but that's how it is.
@QPaysTaxes Strictly speaking, gcc is a freestanding implementation of the standard only. As such it provides the minimal mandatory headers for an freestanding implementation and the language itself, but not the part of the standard library.
@QPaysTaxes A medical insurance company is not MediTec. I talk about the embedded market. That's a completely different business.
 
@Tunaki .... *takes bazooka from wardrobe*
 
@Braiam So that's how you greet good old friends, nice to know :)
 
8:04 PM
> created 15 days ago
we really need to track burned tags
 
I spotted it because I was reminded of the "New tags" moderator tool (10k), and saw it in the list.
 
Have a look at the reauirements to develop medical devices. There is hardly time to write code; most of it is documentation, looking up "quality" standards, documentation standards, etc. Not that I support all of this stuff; there is a lot of hiding behind paragraphs to avoid thinking for oneself or accepting responsibilities.
@QPaysTaxes I indeed meant "medical technology". But What you describe is "management technology". It is not really related to medi-care.
 
@Olaf Well, take a look of a clinical research stack of 1 inch of paper describing how stuff will be done, and the resulting paper is just 5-6 pages long...
I mean, really. Saw one of those things for an interview
The internet. We know you want to do it.
 
@Braiam I don't just refer to the requirements document(s), but the legal requirements not explicitly listed (the documents typically refer to international standards, making them part of the requirements, but are typically not included in the final document stack printout).
@QPaysTaxes What would be "EMT"?
 
Sorry about wrecking the OT train. :-)
 
8:15 PM
and can ignore speed limits
and stop lights
and one way streets signs
 
Don't remove the tag everywhere @Olaf
we can't track them after
A good bunch will be deleted in a week when roomba collects
 
@QPaysTaxes No idea how you come to this; it is something completely different. (not that I disagree about your statement - I just have no idea what they have to document)
 
Olaf is a traitor! Wants to save the internet!
 
@Tunaki Oh, I thought that was the reason about posting them here. I stopped anyway.
@Braiam Yes, shoot first, ask later ... :-P
@QPaysTaxes I calle it "free association". But maybe that's another cultural difference :-)
@Tunaki Should I re-add it then?
 
Meh. Would they roomba?
 
8:22 PM
@Tunaki Yes, It's just 4 questions I edited, one already deleted.
What's the reason not to remove the tag?
 
It's useless in that case because it'll just be deleted anyway. And for the others, it puts the question out of easy review by people looking at question in the tag (so cannot vote to delete anymore, or close)
Hence if you edit, it should be a complete edit leaving the question on-topic afterwards
 
@Tunaki Yes, but those questions were OT anyway. Thanks for the information, I'll keep that in mind.
 
It probably wasn't closed when the edit was proposed. The review queue is horribly slow and nobody seems to be rejecting anything...
 
tsk tsk, exemple
 
8:37 PM
@NisseEngström There are some uncommon edits, but it seems to be well-meant (with one error. I'd say it does not really improve the post.
 
@NisseEngström broken cleanup script
you can notice because the spaces added in the include
 
@Braiam Broken user for not properly inspecting the changes.
 
@PetterFriberg ?
 
the op suggesting edit?, well you would need to check if he done others, I hope he checks why reject and then understand, presuming for now good faith...
but yeah that was really close to get approved
 
8:46 PM
nope, reviewers
 
hmm yeah but again, you need to put the effort we do in reviewing, search internet etc..., if you find other bad reviews by same then yeah. BR has always ask at least two bad reviews.
 
I flag robo a lot reviewing NATO... sometimes it's scary
 
yeah but that's easier to review then this
 
Yep
 
I hate these review's stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/15419114, I really don't like when people switch the code, but then again I can't tell if its really good to change... (I would prefer they post another answers)... need to skip.
This also reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/15418804 correct? the text is copied exactly from the project page linked.
 
9:03 PM
Yeah
 
ok then I clicked the right stuff :D
 
flagging Pettter for robo reviewing
 
If a commonly-asked question has multiple potential duplicate targets, should it be hammered with an appropriate one and left at that, or should all relevant duplicates be added?
 
@TigerhawkT3 Now that we can do it, I'd add the most relevant dupes.
Up to 3. No shaming spamming
 
9:09 PM
@Tunaki :>
 
@TigerhawkT3 "commonly-asked question has multiple potential duplicate targets" yet not a true canon?
 
@Braiam Well, there may or may not be. Some questions just aren't interesting enough to have gotten famous (generally due to being boring RTFM-type stuff).
 
Or are already covered with a couple of questions
 
meh, if I see a commonly asked question, I fabricate a canon one if necessary. All in the interest that people ask that question less
 
They won't ask it less. Each person who asks is new, and doesn't know that there's a duplicate, and had no chance of finding any of them because they didn't search. It does make it easier for you to find the right duplicate without having to dig a lot, though.
 
9:20 PM
... so, nobody tries to search google anymore?
 
I love this new dupe functionality. I can even fix errors by adding a better target and then moving it to the top, instead of having to ask someone to rehammer.
 
you don't need to know there's a duplicate, only with having the top result being the question you were about to ask is a win for us: less questions asked that were already asked
 
Well, not nobody. But every few minutes, someone who didn't Google asks a new question. We just don't see the people who found it themselves.
 
We could infer: questions asked before - questions asked now
 
There's a distinction between "no canonical" and "no duplicate." A question may not have a popular dupe target with hundreds of votes that everyone uses, but a simple Google search may produce several reasonable dupe targets with a handful of votes on each.
 
9:25 PM
That ^
 
Seems that we are talking past each other...
If you found the question you were about to ask, you simply don't ask it unless it left you unsatisfied.
 
That's a big if.
 
nope
 
It's a very big if
 
ok, let me ask a serious question: you have a question, you search in google, you found the answer you wanted, would you still ask the question?
No.
I wouldn't, why would I?
 
9:27 PM
Now, what about people who don't use Google?
 
Those can rot in a bottomless pit, and are not relevant
 
These are the people who post on SO
 
Remember: over 90% of the traffic on SO comes form search engines.
Those are the important ones
 
That's a pretty low number, actually
 
If we get 9k question day with over 90% finding their answer through search, how many questions you think we would have if none of them searches?
I would say at very least 20 times that number
 
9:32 PM
I didn't say nobody searches. But the bulk of our questions comes from those who don't.
 
The ones who planned on searching first would've found the multiple non-canonical questions anyway - or, more likely, read a tutorial or something.
 
@JanDvorak [citation needed]
I've seen in many cases that the bulk of answerable questions comes from people that searched but couldn't have found the answer that solves their issue
 
That differs from what I see, which is a lot of questions that could've been resolved by entering the title into a Google search instead of the new question page's "Title" box.
And now I'm not limited to hammering those questions.
 
@TigerhawkT3 The amount of dupes I found that way. :/
 
I can hammer them, and then hammer them again, and again, and again...
 
9:38 PM
@TigerhawkT3 That could be a serious case of confirmation bias
 
Not clear if OP asks about that particular error or what the original text states.
 
@Braiam Probably.
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 But you can edit the dupe list so all of the questions are linked all fancy like
 
For example, I see more closeable questions than answerable ones
and since duplicates is a subset of answerable....
 
@TinyGiant It is quite great.
 
9:47 PM
It is quite great AWESOME.
 
Oh, hi, @QPaysTaxes. I didn't know someone was here.
 
Plopz
I like don't threading issues
 
I have threading issues, but 99 ain't one
correct
 
user4639281
@Tunaki fun, eh? is Concurrency
 
9:52 PM
Removing code. My favorite.
 
or rather, you can assume the things in square brackets won't run at the same time
@Kyll #onebox
 
Barely a 0.1-box.
 
Try to spawn multiple QPaysTaxes threads.
 
Taxes pay Q
 
Are you saying your other you destroyed Atlantis?!
 
10:00 PM
@JanDvorak Different shows
 
How would flights get to the airports located inside the Bermuda Triangle if they didn't travel through it? — Zach Lipton 14 hours ago
 
Hi all!
 
o/
 
\o
 
o\
 
10:07 PM
////:88:\
 
/o/
SyntaxError: Invalid regex hands
 
user4639281
~[-_0]—
 
;)
 
%}>< o} is a valid string literal in Ruby
 
So... I decided to use python instead D:
 
10:16 PM
Catastrophic failure. Should have used Java instead.
 
Bah! Drop that and use jQuery
 
@Tunaki You mean the NPE factory?
 
Which is the smaller project you have written with java?
 
<:]{%>; is a valid lambda expression in C++.
 
@BaummitAugen aka kid in the party
 
10:17 PM
I tried dropping Java once, but I hurt my foot and I couldn't walk for three days
 
@Braiam The relevant SO question calls it "smiley-with-beard expression". :)
 
@BaummitAugen explanation?
 
@JanDvorak Here.
 
@Braiam One-off one method thingy
 
.... yep, I can totally apply for that...
 
10:21 PM
 
@Tunaki Merry [C++]hristmas!
 
@Tunaki Hahaha =D
 
This late in the year it should be Javastmas.
 
Hm, shady answers (1 2 3) potentially crafted to avoid the repost auto-flag.
Flag worthy? The questions were bad, admittedly.
 
Yes.
Mod flag, linking to all the dupe (but not copy-paste) answers.
 
10:30 PM
Alright, flagging.
Thx.
too broad / POB? Asking for "ideas and inspirations".
 
@BaummitAugen are you out of cv :D
must have been in a rough day
 
@PetterFriberg Yep.
But I believe BR does the NATO ones anyways, so we can preserve votes.
 
and Monday has is yet to come..
 
Don't make me think about Monday! Too traumatizing
 
10:45 PM
@BaummitAugen meeh I got lots, today I have been searching to get a new dog and actually decided to answer something again, instead of flagging and closing all day
@AndrewLi ooh no more relaxing... you get back to work and final can relax again ...
 
^ Same guy, same answer.
 
2 answer, yeah you have already mod flag correct?
 
@PetterFriberg For the first three I noticed earlier.
That one is younger than my flag.
 
Yeah I saw now.. flag it to..
 
> Why did you post the same answer twice?
To test Gutty! :)
 
10:50 PM
more then twice...
 
Wow, even more.
Very generous of him to find all those resource requests for us. :)
 
> I know there have been similar questions asked before on stackoverflow, however frameworks change so rapidly with new revisions, or becoming obselete.
 
11:17 PM
@JanDvorak Title sucks
 
This much is clear :-)
... how do I close a self-answer as unclear?
 
By voting Unclear?
 
@JanDvorak I've seen a quite a few unclear questions that have self-answers. If someone has to be psychic to be able to tell that the self-answer solves the problem, then the question is unclear (usually missing information).
 
well, I did report the question, and nobody seconded my vote
 
@JanDvorak it's a typo
 
11:32 PM
@JanDvorak That could be for any number of reasons.
 
oy?
 
Is not scr but srcBraiam 2 mins ago
I knew the script tag was weird, but couldn't put my finger on it, so I used validator.w3.org/nu
 
@Braiam it found seventeen errors on this room page
 
I wonder if Firefox has a --pedant mode for web development
 
It's called XHTML
 
11:37 PM
But it has no switch :(
 
@Braiam :-). Not that I'm aware of, but looking in the Browser Console (Ctrl-Shift-J, or Cmd-Shift-J on OSX) will show errors/warnings/etc. on most pages (sometimes hundreds), and a significant number from Firefox itself.
 
@Makyen yeah, tried that, it was only httpseverywhere warnings
 
11:52 PM
@Braiam What all are you trying to see? Keep in mind that it is usually better for browsers to be a more forgiving of the HTML they render than to require that the HTML be 100% perfect.
 
@Makyen scr instead of src in a script tag
in my case, most are extension warnings
 

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