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11:02 AM
I don't know how DevOps are managing to keep the sanity of their mind sometimes. 2 days I've been battling with docker/postgresql/citusdata. Everytime I manage to make something work, the behavior changes randomly after a random amount of time. I'm going crazy in the coconut.
 
anyone ever heard of clear app data/clearing cache not actually deleting everything?
it's as if my realm database still has all it's data
 
I can probably reproduce your issue, given I'm apparently sitting above an old Indian cemetery.
Sometimes I feel I'm spending more time fighting with other's bug rather than my own
 
RED if its realm then ping to Tim
 
I'm closer and closer to the day I'll just say "FUCK ALL THIS, I'm going to raise goats in the Alps"
9
 
it's cool, something weird that i can't replicate, wondering if anyone has seen it
i've never known clear data to not work
 
11:09 AM
@OcuS that's my dream too.
a little wooden home, 4g wifi, a small goat herd, tomatoes and tatters
 
@WarrenFaith :D tbh I'm guilty of leaving branches open in case I need to go back and make changes but then if I need to make changes I should really be branching off develop
 
GET HIM!
 
Found out the issue causing the crashes, was an API issue but I haven't handled it in the app to prevent the crashes when there is an API issue so I'll have to patch that this morning / afternoon
then I might go back to bed
 
A branch is just useful to make sure a feature/story can be merged at a dedicated time without blocking yourself from making a release
 
I was wondering whether when activity gets leak then onDestroy will call or not.
 
11:14 AM
with good comment messages (with ticket numbers etc) you can easily find the commits if you have trouble later
 
Assume its called but still memory don't gets release
 
that is right
the lifecycle calls are done normally, just the GC can't clean it up
 
I see
 
a leak means holding a reference not "blocking" the lifecycle
 
If I use weakreference for anonymous function then is there any chance I loose object even without onDestroy of activity calls?
tea time, brb
 
11:22 AM
@WarrenFaith you use the ticket number in the commits? I usually just open up a branch with the ticket number e.g. feature/DROID-100
 
well than you lose the information for what the commit was done
also reappearing stuff will get hard to track. Like "Review feedback implemented"
add the ticket number and you are good: "#123 Review feedback implemented"
also I have to say: we use ff merges only, so rebase first
@vasanth welcome to the room. Please read the room rules first: room-15.github.io
@krish same for you: please read the room rules first: room-15.github.io
 
thanks for granting permission :)
 
is the bot on holiday?
Warren, what have you done?
@krish Please read the rules now.
 
both meet the static requirements. Now it is time for them to show the soft requirements
 
reading :/
 
11:29 AM
continue reading and stop writing until you're done reading plus whatever comes after
 
@WarrenFaith so your tickets are just #<number> ? So if I was to do something similar I'd have to use "DROID-100 ... blah blah" DROID-100 is the ticket on Jira
 
Thanks for granting access :-)
 
Honestly feel like pulling out my hair whenever I see new users not reading the rules on here
 
@MurtuzaKhan You need at least 80 rep to talk here. Please see this link for more details.
 
11:46 AM
Why is boat missed interpreting the access request?
 
Check Bot up time :D
 
@krish done with reading the rules?
@vasanth please do as we asked: read the rules!
 
!/info
 
@Dharmendra Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
@Dharmendra I awoke on Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:50:17 GMT (that's about 19 hours ago), got invoked 3 times
 
so, list.toString is a null with NPE
 
12:00 PM
Bot already awaken
 
finally.
 
\o/
language isn't entirely stupid
 
!/stat
 
@Dharmendra That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: stat, stats
@Dharmendra That dude sucks
 
12:04 PM
sassy bot xD
 
@MarkO'Sullivan exactly. "DROID-123 Initial implementation done"
or so
 
Okay I'm going to start doing that from now on. Thanks for the recommendation!
 
sure
 
uhm
i use tags for ticket numbers
message "bugfixes on 0.1.64" tags [#1231231,#21312355,#23123123]
 
i use ticket number as branch name
 
12:18 PM
we do git flow patterns, so "feature/ticketnumber_description" or "bug/ticketnumber_description" etc
tags only to mark releases or release candidates
 
oh we no gitflow
 
Can exception.getMessage() be null?
 
exception can be null
and yes getMessage as well
EVERYTHING CAN BE NULL
 
I have read and understood the rules!
 
12:22 PM
I have more null checks than functioning code :/
 
\o/
 
so,
        if (runtimeException1.getMessage() != null) {
            ref.log("RuntimeException 1: " + runtimeException1.getMessage());
        }
 
just got an email from a recruiter
for a job position: Sr. Software Developer
 
good luck :)
 
I asked what's the job about
They replied: Sr. Software Dev
yeah no shit. What do you want me to be developing... Mobile, backend, front, embedded? XD
 
12:26 PM
Rupi, two things: first: never to a method call twice. Second: why the hell do you care about null there? Even if it returns null, a + concat with a string works with null. No need to check that!
 
Hi guys :)
!!meow
rupinderjeet , mehdi , Dhrmendra
 
\o
 
what is the problem in this code plz let me help
i have a 500 contacts, in setProgress count not updated
 
you can't update UI from background thread
also that is the worst possible way to deal with async operations
I haven't used runOnUiThread in years!
 
@WarrenFaith please don't tell me that's legacy code you're working with?
 
12:33 PM
also "totalCount / 100" with totalCount being int makes it always 0 until totalCount > 100
god no
 
We also use GitFlow (or try to)
 
o/
 
\o
 
user443346
;o/
 
@WarrenFaith yes done
 
user443346
12:35 PM
smh o/
 
@krish than do it again please because I doubt that
 
!/meow
 
Udemy is offering all its courses for 10$ (udemy.com/courses)
How's the quality of the content?
 
1:00 PM
Ok @krish last chance: Read the rules again within the next 10 minutes or your access is revoked.
 
Lunch time!!! :D
 
I did something on AS, and now, arrow keys jump from method to method, does anyone know how to make it simple again?
up-down arrow keys makes the cursor go to next method from current
nvm.
 
1:16 PM
Morning
Mehdi - $15 CAD :P
 
@WarrenFaith i checked each rules thoroughly.
 
What an idiot
 
try hard maybe
write them all on your notebook
 
So close :P
 
Can I simplify this somehow? hastebin.com/jivudixesu.java
 
1:27 PM
@RajSuvariya You need at least 80 rep, and a a:q ratio of 3:4 to talk here. Please see this link for more details.
 
love this bot
 
Rupinder - Create a method to log exceptions?
Would make it a bit easier to read
 
@RajSuvariya Woah now, hold up right there. Spamming the request access button will only get you banned. Come back in 24 hours and request again IF you have fixed the issues outlined in the last message. Requesting access again in less than 24 hours will result in a ban.
 
right, thanks.
 
LUNCH IS COMPLETE
 
1:38 PM
@krish I revoked your access for one of two reasons: Either you lied to me or you are not able to read and understand the content of a simple website
 
LEL
 
@WarrenFaith how you are so much sure that he lied to you?
 
Warren has powers
 
~ just curious
 
Dark and mysterious German powers.
 
1:42 PM
@Graeme fair enough, but can he read minds :xD
 
Not only minds. Also websites :)
 
Is I crack a joke ???
doesn't find funny at all.
 
check if "reason" is null before comparing it
 
@rupinderjeet tag me if you are talking to me.
I don't get irritated at all.
like others
 
it was a joke to warren's power usage above, but okay.
good to know :D
 
1:46 PM
warren alive?
 
he went back to his deutschcave awaiting more noobs to request access
 
lol
 
Room 15 is so elitist :P
 
yeah man. we raise our pinky when drinking beer
 
SO should give us a custom domain :D
 
1:47 PM
burps in elitist
 
in a meeting, but as I said: either he lied or he wasn't able to understand and follow rule #6 @maveň
 
> BURP: A smart fart that took the elevator up.
 
@WarrenFaith you may give him 1 more chance.
> will that work in your case
 
What language do you speak Maven?
 
apparently english
 
1:53 PM
@Graeme martian language
:xD
 
graeme is almost a fully canadian
 
@CptEric mixed with persian + english.
;)
 
next we'll know he won't understand anything brittish or americans say and just nod
 
Persian! Interesting
 
in Persian Chat, Sep 3 '14 at 12:36, by maven
i think in my last birth .. i was persian
 
1:54 PM
persian? cool
 
yo!
 
@krish Woah now, hold up right there. Spamming the request access button will only get you banned. Come back in 24 hours and request again IF you have fixed the issues outlined in the last message. Requesting access again in less than 24 hours will result in a ban.
 
There may definitely be cross cultural issues going on
 
for example? :P
 
Good morning, puny humans
bcc: @PeeHaa
 
1:55 PM
i first read cross as gross
 
And ... wait. Did AndroidBot get a red eye?! @RaghavSood - It's turning!! Get the shotgun!!!
 
lol
good morning CM
been a lot
 
Morning cM
 
@Graeme like?
 
Well, through your use of language, your coming across as bossy / passive agressive - which Warren won't respond well to.
But it could be a cultural thing rather than a personal thing.
Or just the way you're translating
 
2:01 PM
> oh, passive agresiveness, how many times have you saved me from being corroded by anger?
user image
4
 
XD
 
haha
 
If I check if something is null to avoid NPE, is it still okay to throw a NPE within a Crashlytics.logException() call to ensure we can track it on Crashlytics?
 
or just throw a crashlytics event
like.. man.. they're there for that
 
@Graeme Bot doesn't like it when you keep clicking after getting denied, or when Warren revokes access because you didn't do as Warren asked
 
2:05 PM
Yeah but Crashlytics needs an exception for Crashlytics.logException
 
@codeMagic ohai o/
 
then again, i'm the one that replaces fragments or adds them depending on how the replace try-catch block goes, so i'm not a responsible adult to be used as guidance
 
Which is why I was going to do this Crashlytics.logException(new NullPointerException());
... That's what I was planning to do :|
If it catches a NPE exception, I return it back to the Rounds overview screen
 
it's worked since support v4, unlike 90% of so's answers.
 
Mark, I just set a Crash.log and put something like the variable and any other important info
@PeeHaa howdy, Long time no hablo
 
2:06 PM
I thought for Crashlytics.log() you need to logException() first?
 
@codeMagic yeah lo siento
Busy with... stuff :)
 
No problemo. Same here. Haven't been around as much
 
look for teh possible overrides mark
else jsut throw the exception.
 
@jedijs You need at least 80 rep to talk here. Please see this link for more details.
 
nobody (except crashlytics) will care anyway
in the good meaning of caring i say
it's not a "real" NPE to be worried about
just crashlytics lack of features
maybe make a self explaining custom exception
 
2:10 PM
You can set tags to be sent with the next communication. But yes you could throw an exception when it happens
 
like INFORMCRASHLYTICSOFBACKTOROUNDS
 
I do this when the user first uses the app to get the MAC and some other info
 
@jedijs Stop. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200. Repeatedly requesting access will result in a ban. Come back when you have fixed the issues outlined in the last message. Requesting access again in less than 24 hours will result in a ban.
 
@CptEric I have no idea what to override :D You need a throwable of some sort for it to be sent to Crashlytics
 
lol kay
 
2:15 PM
Wow
Firefox was using 3GB of RAM just to run the bot
 
back~~ :D
 
stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
that might be a cause of it.
:P
sup w0mp
 
I've refreshed the page multiple times, it still eats up over time though
Restarting FF fixed it
Ahh, ze Germans ought to love this
HALT
 
2:18 PM
HAMMERZEIT!
7
 
STOY
 
ZABIVAT' VREMYA!
 
Any Russians?
 
Ahoy, Refigh !
 
any other languages?
 
2:20 PM
lol
 
any persian out there :-)
 
There's about 50 million in Iran
Feel free to PR with more languages
 
I am talking abt here :|
 
SISTITE
 
2:24 PM
MALLEUS TEMPUS!
 
sistite it's not quite correct
 
PR it :P
 
stare would maybe be better
or
Desine
desine definately
desine is "stop yourself/stop it"
whereas sistite is "relax"
 
HALT
 
HAMMERZEIT!
 
2:27 PM
It accept command from everyone :)
 
what happens to return statement in a method if method throws a RuntimeException or any other exception? does it go to return statement to return null?
 
runtime -> everything stahps
unhandled exceptions -> everything stahps
handled exceptions -> direct yourself to the nearest catch clause
 
so, umm
everything, really?
my service keeps running
 
service is not part of the application's thread
background things will also keep workimng
 
back :D
 
2:40 PM
does this make sense? hastebin.com/bisidaweza.java
 
is isCalcComplete a member of the class?
 
yes, a local variable in a parent method.
I can try this myself, but my gradle builds take too long, and my laptop freezes most of time
 
so you have 2 methods, 1 of them with this variable and the second method is calc, correct?
 
yes.
 
1- you don't need to initialize it by false, directly assign the calc return to it
2- you don't need to declare throws RuntimeException on the method calc, it's an unchecked exception
 
2:45 PM
Oh right, I thought this makes it readable.
So, if class running these methods is ClassA, does RuntimeException stop execution of ClassA completely?
 
warren, how many FPS was germany airsoft limited to?
 
nein fps
 
yes @rupinderjeet
like any non catched exception
 
what about a class ClassB with a statement like ClassA ob = new ClassA(); boolean isComplete = ob.parentMethod();
is ClassB terminated too?
 
2:54 PM
Although, note that if somewhere else in your stack you are catching the Runtime exception, execution will not necessarily stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
Your entire process stops
 
and that's why you should be careful about exceptions and carefully decide when to put unchecked and checked ones to have a good exception hierarchy (depending on the modules of your app - StorageException - DBException etc...)
Developers are divided in his topic
some ban CheckedExceptions as they pollute the code with try / Catch
 
As a very general rule of thumb, if you're an SDK or API, throw. If you're an app, catch
This is not applicable 100% of the time
 
and some dislike Runtimes
 
2:57 PM
lmfao omg the bot languages
 
But it's a decent base
 
well to anyone interested, i'm selling a 350fps electrical airsoft rifle, model is a G36E, the spanish, german and northern european default rifle
 
oh, too much info
 
because i don't use it
 
Metal or plastic pellets?
 
2:58 PM
plastic
 
halt
 
HAMMERZEIT!
 
:D
 
i though you had already sold it o.o?
 
nope
still trying to sell it
 
2:59 PM
:(
 
i can't imagine how it can be so hard to sell it
i'm selling it at 50% :(
 
350 FPS with plastic won't get me very far I'm afraid
 
that's not the attitude
 
gosh
 
looool a coworker just emailed us saying he was WFH due to a car keys mixup with his fiance. She left for work and has all of the keys so he's stranded lmfao
 
3:00 PM
XD
 
i read altitude and i was really confused for a while xD
 
haha!
 
it comes with a 2-4x scope
so, @RaghavSood , you can annoy people with plastic pellets from a quite long distance
 
I used them to acquire food
My friend and I used airguns with metal pellets though
And much more powerful ones
 
airgun != airsoft
 
3:04 PM
Yeah, I know :P
Which is why we never got any airsoft ones
 
:I
 
Fuck I missed IO applications :'(
Feel shitty now
 
rip
I wasn't gonna go this year anyways
 
o/
 
\o
 
3:18 PM
"Was this person who logged into your Facebook you?"
"Yeah, it was me"
"Okay, now change your password"
IT WAS FUCKING ME, I DON'T NEED TO CHANGE MY PASSWORD.
AGAIN
 
xD
 
3:34 PM
@maveň why should I? I requested that he reads it. He said he did. I said I don't believe it and requested it again. He still failed the simple test and faced the punishment. No need for a third chance
 
i'0m playing with the media query
like a madman
 
School internet
 
holy moly
 
3:49 PM
uhm?
 
I remember that our school had monochrome 11" monitors running 640x480 pixels
 
I remember that our school had monochrome blackboards
4
 
yes, that was around 1999
 
we had 24" screens and 24gbs of ram, but the internet was not even 1mb/s
actually i have yet to see a place in my city with more than 100mps
 
I went to that school too! they called them VAX terminals I think
 
3:56 PM
Heh old people
Although growing up in India meant I still had to deal with dial-up and all for a while
 
That's why you got angry at humanity and built skynet?
I don't blame you.
 
i had dial up until 2004-5
 
We still had it in 2008
Then I took a trip to the US
 
no ADSL on my neighborhood 'til 2007
 
3G mobile networks, broadband, HD TV, it was revolutionary
 
3:58 PM
and i mean 100-170k/s adsl
 
In 2011, I upgraded from a 512MB/Pentium 4 to an 8GB/i7 MBP
 
uo
 
No, Mauker. I started building Skynet when someone told me in an IRC chatroom that I can't program
 
i moved to an i5 on 2009 from a p4 and a i7 on 2014
 
Oh, wow.
 
3:59 PM
I am old... I still remember the turbo button to get twice as much speed.... and also be able to cheat in games!
 
@WarrenFaith I had one of those!
 

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