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2:00 PM
Morning
 
What's the booooooomb?
And wouldn't it be better to be the Bobomb?
I have now read and understood the Bob-omb page on the mario wiki
 
welcome
 
welcome graeme
 
2:15 PM
Anyone used Pusher?
Think carefully, Eric :D
 
i know it, haven't used it
again, i'l real time things agnostic.
 
sigh
 
I don't know it, but have used it
 
locks Eric in Submarine
 
i know these shits exist, but i don't believe in them
 
2:17 PM
It's been 3min since I know it
 
I always thought that being poisonous is same as being venomous.
 
back~~ :D
 
Eric - Please provide english translations for Facebook image posts :P
Rupinder - Poisonous means if you eat it you die. Venomous means if it strings you you die :)
 
@Graeme which one? i already told you to tag them lol
 
Fascismo?
 
2:30 PM
oh
it's part of a poem
"signs your government might be turning into fascism"
 
@Code-Apprentice AMD and Attlassian for now with just under a grand. Didn't want to do anything too big until I know what I'm doing. Haha
 
@codeMagic Why take risks when you can be sure? github.com/maxbbraun/trump2cash
 
haha
The risk is the fun part
 
Eric - It looks interesting... But i can't tell :P
 
2:46 PM
does anyone here have a subscription to the busy coder's guide to android by commonsware?
 
@Graeme just sent you via PM a lionk
link
that you can translate
NSFW header image from golden dawn
 
Okay :) Thanks
 
jsut scroll fast
 
I'll look later - currently trying to see if my bosses push for Databinding is a good idea or not.
Right now finding it extremely opaque...
 
its super opaque
i don't really like data binding as in code in xml
it's the reason many web frameworks suck
gotta keep design separated from code
 
2:52 PM
did facebook change something recently? I woke up to 7 notifications today, all useless crap. Normally I only get notifications if I am tagged or something
 
yeah
i also lost my right to "thisDayOn" feature
never used it and already missing it
my gf has it and keeps posting things from it
 
I am really disliking fb lately
 
I actually disabled that people can tag me
 
He's hoping to introduce it as a companion to MVP
But it's going to end up MPVMV
 
I've an empty account which I use only for OAuth testing :D
 
2:56 PM
@Graeme trendsetter
 
fb dislikes tim lately
 
Another day, another silver badge
 
stop hunting silver people for their badges
they're humans too
 
What I'm finding is, if you're not experienced enough to structure what you're doing as you go, forcing yourself to an architectural design pattern will keep you're code somewhat useful (as long as you follow it correctly)
But it's looking like, if you're not experienced, Databinding will eat you up for breakfast
Since you have to use dynamically generated class as you develop, and I have no idea how some of them have been dynamically generated...
 
some forms of dynGen are fine
like DBFLow's
but yeha data binding is hell for newbies
 
3:00 PM
everything is hell for newbies :)
 
our padawan in app dev is now learning new languages by translating things
so he's got a touch of php, ng2, android, ios
all by the beloved grace of doing i18n in 'em
he thinks ionic2/ng2 translation binding is one of the coolest, just behind android
 
Urgh, just found it, classes are dynamically names based on the filename of your layout resource. bluergh
 
ugh with _'s ?
 
No, Strips them out, which was why it was so hard to find where the names where coming from :P
Call your layout file fragment_x_yellow_include_24 and you'll get FragmentXYellowInclude24Binding
 
uhm
i don't know if that's bad or good
i wouldn't like a class file with snake_case
but
 
3:06 PM
python disagrees with you
 
it looks like a mess on camelCase
 
Ah, you can custom it. Few.
 
today my laptop battery is lasting a hell of a lot
 
> Me: "Are we really that close?"
Adam: "There are places in Indiana that won't serve us a pizza."
2
@McAdam331 Throwback
 
throwback monday?
doesn't rhyme
 
3:07 PM
:P
 
hey triss
 
ThrowTristan?
 
MailMcAdam?
 
(I don't really like my name shortened, not the best time for reasons. Just a small heads up)
 
3:09 PM
Ok TristanWiley no problem
 
You can call me Tristan, just nothing shorter XD
 
XD
 
I mean, Mr. T works. Or T-Rex, or T
 
What about Tristy?
 
but those are all shorter
 
3:11 PM
Threesthaene Wyelee
 
Drustanus Wieleigh, no problem
 
I have never been called Mr. Mehdi
guys from now on, I'm Mr. Mehdi
 
Mr M+
 
Mr. B
MB
 
Grandmaster B, for cool people who get the reference
 
3:12 PM
men in black
 
Moroccan in Black
Although I'm the guy with the all-black wardrobe
 
they sounds good as well
hahaha
 
btw @TristanWiley you can fact check Drustanus Wieleigh, it's correctly your name's origin
 
Raghav - how's the new job so far?
 
Basically my ex called me Tris or Trissy and it's still kinda "too soon".
 
3:13 PM
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😬
 
@Dee_wab I may be a bot, but I can understand pointless actions. Requesting access again in less than 24 hours will result in a ban.
 
@MehdiB. Slow. Just got set up today with W3 and Sametime and all that
Took a week
 
haha! welcome :D yeah the beginning is kind of heavy
ping me there if you need anything
 
3:16 PM
@TristanWiley Been there, done that. It's your name, not hers. Own it. Get a tattoo saying Tristan McNeilly
Will do, thanks!
 
(y)
 
@TristanWiley figured, sorry
 
No worries, it's just too soon and ugh.
Sorry.
 
3:32 PM
no need to say sorry. I can hardly imagine what it must be like
 
<3
So I made a fundraiser for the non-profit my Mom started 10+ years ago. Within seconds my hackathon friend donated $200 - facebook.com/donate/1415374555147564
 
facebook told me you made it halfway already
 
Yeah. My original goal was $200 and as I was finishing making it he donated $200 so I'm like wat.
 
what a douche
no chance for others to donate
 
3:48 PM
home, cya
 
cya~~ :D
 
:P
I just upped the donation goal lol
 
3:59 PM
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
 
!/meow
 
!/meow
 
4:11 PM
O/
 
@Ahmad won't be able to attend hackUPC
 
Where's carlllll I'm hungry
 
o/
I got no invite for hackUPC :(
 
I'm so sad I can't go to bitcamp. :(
 
same here
 
4:20 PM
I mean I /can/ go, I'm supposed to go, but a family event came up.
 
Hello, Android!
 
@codeMagic AMD seems a good choice. Just a little late. Have looked at Atlassian.
 
I was searching more about poison and venom, and I came across Komodo dragon. [NSFW] See this and the related images Never saw a Komodo meme before :D
 
I would have been in under $12 I think but I it took forever to get my damn account set up
 
4:27 PM
@rupinderjeet, not sure we have the same definition of NSFW :D
 
Robinhood
 
If their new chip works out, could be huge. If not, well...
I don't want a mobile only option
 
o\
 
Its nsfw because its blood and gore (?)
 
4:28 PM
Robinhood + bluestacks
NSFW checks out:
 
hahaha
 
WHAT
 
!/meow
 
@RaghavSood That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: meow
 
rupin: it doesn't look gore for me, or maybe too much internet has raised my NSFW bar XD
 
4:43 PM
@WarrenFaith you ordered op3t? 128gb phones are available now.
 
I had to go get lunch without Carl today that's how hungry I was.
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┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) Adam please stop messing the room.
 
┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
sorry
 
Great, now we have too many tables straightened out
 
@RaghavSood (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ┬─┬
Plot twist, the table ended up on the original position
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Barrel roll table
 
5:00 PM
lmfao mauker
 
5:15 PM
Time to go~~
Cya people!!! :D
 
o/
 
Cya womper
o/
 
Already posted it ;)
 
\o
 
LOL
 
5:50 PM
gud afternun
you did go to the moon, boys. @McAdam331
 
I can't watch this rn. Are they saying we didn't?
 
NVIDIA uses maxwell rendering engine to prove you did
 
@McAdam331 you haven't met people who think the moon landing is fake?
 
Oh I have
But is that what this video is about?
hmm
What do you guys think?
I think it'd be a pretty damn elaborate hoax for 1969
 
i think it was true
most europeans do tbh
@McAdam331 they use a new gen realm time engine to simulate the lighting of the photografies
to debunk the "buzz couldn't look like that"
and the "no stars" thing
 
6:03 PM
 
all penguins are "act normal, it's just fred"
 
okay I see this now
debunking the conspiracies
so proving it was possible and likely did happen
 
yeah
mythbusters couldn't prove the lightning, but this one did
so join the mythbusters episode with this
and you got real things :P
the most used fact checking in spain atleast is : if it wasn't true, there'd had been a russian parade through moscow to show it.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:10 PM
Any of you ButterKnife lovers know why a call to ButterKnife.bind(view, binder) would fail to do anything?
As in, View's would remain null, even though they're set to @Bind and the View they're being has the right ID's?
 
Our fucking backend is returning user history in ascending order with a limit of 500 items, so if they have more than 500 items, we're not seeing their most recent ones
What is the solution? For the apps to come up with a paging work around because it's not high priority for them.
IT'S ONE LINE TO CHANGE IN YOUR FUCKING SQL WHAT?!?!
\endrant
 
@Graeme I'm not sure, but maybe it's not bind(view, binder)?
 
welcome to software development, Mac :D
 
I thought it goes like bind(this, view) or something
 
This is just awful.
 
7:14 PM
Adam - yeah... that's kind of standard
Juliette - OMG, you're right, it takes an Object as an argument
Learn some fricking generics ButterKnife :(
Who passes "Object"s anymore
 
our back end's API to return PaymentMethods, instead of returning the payment ID string for American Express returns the description instead. So we have specialized logic to (in some cases) handle Amex cards as ID, sometimes as Description. I've pushed our payment methods PM to get the API to fix this bug, and we're going into month 5 now of it not being fixed.
 
@TristanWiley of course you did :p
 
Adam - You'll probably get more traction if you switch to a Delta approach.
It'll get them excited and hopefully get itself pushed onto the top of your backstack
Backstack? Back... er... What's the work log stack called in agile?
Backlog! It'll get added to the top of your backlog
 
lol right?
It should be at the top of their backlog.
 
I told you - Deltas.
With sort order as a header filter
and sort field
It's like BE developer cocain
 
7:18 PM
Mac, if you flood their API with dozens of pagination calls that will "solve" the problem too
 
lol that's a possibility
I am still fighting this because we should not be wasting our time doing ugly and non-fool proof pagination shit that isn't the problem
 
fool-proof, is that a pun?
 
lol no?
 
oh I just learned something
I always thought it was fullproof
 
7:24 PM
Aand I am loosing this fight
At least I don't have to write the code. I'll just review the PR.
 
Adam, sure it's that easy to fix? Maybe fix it for them? lol
 
This is the first time I've actually witnessed bad practice first hand.
Hmmm
I could ask? Maybe they'll let me into the code and try it out haha
 
seems hard to believe that they would advocate pagination for a small fix
 
Because they have other things of more importance apparently
which I get but I don't view that as an excuse for us to do this hack
because we hack this in, and then they fix it later, and we have to un-hack it
 
not wasting your team's time is also important
 
7:26 PM
exactly!
 
if they have bugs in their code then it's their responsibility to fix
 
exactly
Now my coworker is fighting me because we did another hack a while ago where we did sorting locally
 
my manager would raise hell if that ever happened lol
 
but I don't view them as the same thing.
 
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7:28 PM
1) The sorting locally issue was because we found an issue not in our backend but in another service, and that takes time to get fixed. Plus it was a last second emergency.

2) I just found out we've been getting items in ascending order and reversing them all along. It's just now that we've learned the 500 item limit bites us. Who the fuck didn't stand up and say "we shouldn't have to reverse these items" ?!?!
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I have a solution for you
come work at MeetMe instead
 
Do you need help, Eski? lol
Do you have a reasonable backend? LOL
 
you're a bit late:
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/35640136#35640136
 
we have pagination
 
worth a reshare :D
 
I wouldn't go so far to call our backend reasonable though
 
if we need it shared every 2 hours we can probably just set the bot up to do that though :D
 
Does anyone know if there's a way to log non-fatal exceptions as though they are crashes with fabric?
 
yea, isn't there a built-in way?
we do that all the time
 
7:32 PM
there's logException, which gets tracked as a non-fatal
 
ooooh, you mean grouped with exceptions?
 
I'd like our ANRs to get tracked as crashes basically
 
I guess I'm confused because by default Crashlytics shows All Events which lumps fatal/non-fatal together
 
We do a daily report on the crash-free rate, but it doesn't include ANRs since they get listed in the non-fatal category.
we can't just add fatal+non-fatal since there's other non-fatals we don't want to include
 
ah :/
 
7:46 PM
o/
 

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