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@AndreasPapadopoulos and rightly so. Missing you. How's life (I should be in bed)
nice to see him around
 
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01:51
hey folks
02:03
Got down sleeping bag delivered ... it's light and reasonably priced. It just ... smells like geese shed even after wash
 
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03:44
Hmm looks like /r/WorldNews is censoring the events in Milwaukee
03:57
pretty nice discussion here: reddit.com/r/news/comments/4xqss8/…
04:15
@Mikhail So I spent the last couple hours playing around with the memory settings on my 4770K.
The performance scaling with memory speed is interesting...
1333 MHz - 137.888 seconds
1600 MHz - 126.618 seconds
1866 MHz - 117.909 seconds
2133 MHz - 114.317 seconds
2400 MHz - 114.538 seconds
1 billion digits of Pi. CPU/cache @ 4.0/3.8 GHz
Oh. So memory speed does matter.
And the power consumption goes up as speed^2
@StackedCrooked Not only that, the point of diminishing returns is sharp and sudden.
dat thermal budget
04:17
I haven't tried 2666 MHz since the memory isn't only rated for 2400 and I'm know very little about memory overclocking.
I do know that 2400 MHz isn't entirely stable on that box - probably limited by the CPU's IMC.
The moral is that instead of buy expensive ram you should buy tons of cheaper, slower ram.
Even though I've been overclocking for years, this is the first time I've actually tried to do some sort of memory-scaling benchmark.
Seems like a lot f tests online confirm your experience:
@Mikhail Not really. They aren't getting differences of 20% between 1600/2400.
Here there's 20% between 1333/2133.
I honestly didn't think it would be that drastic.
Well my weekend project to communicate between C++ and Java worked really well with ZeroC's Ice library. I would recommend it for any inter-process communication, because unlike COM is works cross platform, cross language, and looks like C++.
04:27
What interface does it use for the IPC?
network? OS shared memory? OS message passing?
Network, except for A->A communications
If I was doing C++ I would roll my own thing or use 0MQ, but I needed to go between languages.
sad life, mortgage fixed @ 4% - 4.5% now it's at 3.75% and loans are all fixed for 1-2 years
wasting a couple of hundreds of dollars on interests :'(
wait, couple of thousands overall :/
05:01
Physiotherapist = Physio + the + rapist
freaky!
05:19
Now this is interesting:
Police wearing body cameras have 3.64% increase in shooting deaths of civilians bc there is proof to justify force https://t.co/WkSC2dPluV
05:58
me: code in my app doesn't work
'em: defective phone
 
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07:02
@Telkitty Tellkitty the Breaker of phones.
phone breaker 😂
@sehetw @jackschofield @PolitiFact Liberal thinking is Critical: They're on life support!#blisstabithasehe
Wut. The politics of nervous rimshots and "I think this is supposed to be funny but I don't know why, so let's laugh and clap"
07:25
@sehe What does anal sex "technique" have to do with that...?
07:35
Hey guys my goal is it to calculate the new coordinates of a point after rotating it around another point.

According to a thread this can be done using the following formula:
I verified that using pen and paper and it turned out well. Now I was going to implement the according function using the GLM library.

According to the documentation both glm::sin and glm::cos need the angle parameter to be in radians. For that reason I am using glm::radians to convert the angle to radians.
glm::vec2 rotate_point(glm::vec2 point_a, glm::vec2 point_b, GLfloat angle)
{
	GLfloat angle_radians = glm::radians(angle);

	GLfloat costest = glm::cos(angle_radians);

	GLfloat x = point_a.x + (point_b.x - point_a.x) * glm::cos(angle_radians) - (point_b.y - point_a.y) * glm::sin(angle_radians);
	GLfloat y = point_a.y + (point_b.x - point_a.x) * glm::sin(angle_radians) + (point_b.y - point_a.y) * glm::cos(angle_radians);

	return glm::vec2(x, y);
}
So here is where the problem occurs. The values which are returned by my function are not correct and I guess, it is because the cos and sin functions return wrong values (at least in my case).

How could I solve this issue? Are there any other functions in the glm-library which I didn't find or is there another, maybe mathematical approach to solöve this problem?
forget about costest it is just a test variable I was using ^^
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@wilx interesting
If it's true
@Ell It seems plausible.
or do you guys at least think this is worth a new question on SO?
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08:02
@Käsebrot yes but, you should provide expected output and actual output
Not just "I'm not getting the output I want"
(What output do you want? What are you getting?)
You are right. Just fyi
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@Käsebrot actually I don't think its worth an SO question
I think you will be able to figure it out
assuming I am rotating the point (1,0) around origin so (0,0) with 90° CCW. This should return the point (0,1) with:
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Why do you think cos is returning the wrong value?
glm::vec2 point = rotate_point(glm::vec2(0.0f, 0.0f), glm::vec2(1.0f, 0.0f), 90);
but it returns: ( -4.371113,1.0)
x value is wrong because normally cos(90) would have returned 0
but it does not when I pass my angle in radinas
radians
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08:09
Does glm::radians return the expected result?
point_b is being rotated around point_a inmy function btw
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Step through every line with a debugger
glm::radians works fine, it is glm::cos which returns the wrong value. Like I said it should return zero for an angle of 90°. it does not when I pass radians
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You're not telling me what it does return again :P
What does it return? (Besides "not what I want")
GLfloat costest = glm::cos(angle_radians);
returns "-4.37113883e-008"
angle_radians is "1.57079637"
08:31
Sounds about right
1.57079637 is not exactly a right angle, so you get not exactly zero.
@R.MartinhoFernandes which means that I need a more precise angle to radians calculation?
in order to get a precise output. I need this calculation for construction of a koch curve I can't afford unprecise values
I doubt that.
what exactly do you doubt?
That you can't afford imprecise values.
But if that's true you're approaching this in a fundamentally wrong way.
08:38
Because you're using a numeric approach when you need an algebraic approach.
That's the way to avoid imprecise values.
mkay not really sure what you mean. Can you pls point me in the right direction?
You need to represent right angles as π/2, not as 1.57079637...
@Käsebrot You know that 4.37e-008 is 0.0000000437, right?
Though I still believe you can accept some level of error. You need to quantify that and then it's easy.
@fredoverflow yes I know that
^^
08:43
Can you show us a picture of the unprecise Koch result?
Also, Koch kurves always go off in 60 degree angles, right? So why don't you simply store angles as an integer between 0 and 5, where 1 means 60 degrees?
not there yet, I was not sure about my implementation with the rotation so didn't even bother drawing it
yes it is always 60 degree
Well, there you go then. No need to calculate in radians.
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Shiny :D
s/Feminist/Woman's/?
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Also, Koch kurves always go off in 60 degree angles, right? So why don't you simply store angles as an integer between 0 and 5, where 1 means 60 degrees?"
Didn't get this part
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09:03
I wouldn't call it a fantasy because fantasies are of a good world. That is just a neutral world.
@nwp I think fantasies are just of a different world.
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@Käsebrot If all your angles are multiples of 60° you can use 0 for 0°, 1 for 60°, 2 for 120°, ... And whenever you calculate an angle you round to the nearest multiple of 60°. Unless you are off by more than 30° that should get you exact results.
Noun: fantasy ‎(plural fantasies)
  1. That which comes from one's imagination.
  2. Shakespeare
  3. Is not this something more than fantasy ?
  4. Milton
  5. A thousand fantasies begin to throng into my memory.
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Verb: fantasy ‎(third-person singular simple present fantasies, present participle fantasying, simple past and past participle fantasied)
  1. (literary, psychoanalysis) To fantasize (about).
  2. 2013, Mark J. Blechner, Hope and Mortality: Psychodynamic Approaches to AIDS and HIV
  3. Perhaps I would be able to help him recapture the well-being and emotional closeness he fantasied his brother had experienced with his parents prior to his birth.
  4. (obsolete) To have a fancy for; to be pleased with; to like.
  5. (Can we find and add a quotation of Cavendish to this entry?)
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> Milton
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I'm trying to think of a bad fantasy world. Lord of the rings is kinda sorta bad, but it has the "good will win in the end" baked into it, so it doesn't quite qualify. But I guess you are right.
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Good ol' onebox showing quotations as part of the actual list.
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09:08
It is just that my fantasy worlds are a lot more special, but I suppose that is the point of the comic, saying that that experience would be special.
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@nwp Fantasies can be of a bad world too
@nwp Oh, that's meaning #2 in the link above. In the comic it stands for meaning #1; it's something a feminist would imagine.
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but I wouldn't call it fantasy either vOv
@nwp Conan the Barbarian takes place in a crapsack fantasy world.
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yeah, but you got a hero who beats the evil guy in the end IIRC. It is a story of hope, not despair.
09:14
Oh, shit. I didn't mean the movie.
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09:25
I hate when all relevant colleagues are on holiday, it demotivates me and makes me not work much.
Also my spell-checker decided to not know the word demotivate.
There's like one civilization with half-way decent people, and they're destroyed by barbarian hordes. Of the barbarians, there is one half-way decent tribe (Conan's), and everyone else is either a cannibal or a savage pillager.
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They should give me "cheer up" as a spelling suggestion.
10:07
$ gi tstatus
-bash: gi: command not found
$ fuck
git tstatus [enter/↑/↓/ctrl+c]
Really? :<
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fuck fucked up, open an issue
Does it solve git checkoout? I often write this.
$ git checkoout
git: 'checkoout' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

Did you mean this?
        checkout
$ fuck
git checkout [enter/↑/↓/ctrl+c]
@Morwenn nerves?
@R.MartinhoFernandes You obviously chose "↑" (to fuck up). Next time choose fuck down
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10:19
I would have guessed canadian
10:31
$ ccache -s
cache directory                     /Users/martinho.fernandes/.ccache
primary config                      /Users/martinho.fernandes/.ccache/ccache.conf
secondary config      (readonly)    /usr/local/Cellar/ccache/3.2.5_1/etc/ccache.conf
cache hit (direct)                  2984
cache hit (preprocessed)             881
cache miss                          9907
called for link                      859
called for preprocessing            7126
compile failed                       213
preprocessor error                    45
The thought that some of my coworkers have 2GB max cache sizes.
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looks like 75% cache miss, doesn't seem to be very effective
Lots of fresh builds.
Also a lot of the misses are from before I raised the cache size from 2GB to 100GB.
10:47
$ ccache -z
Statistics cleared
$ ccache -s
cache directory                     /Users/martinho.fernandes/.ccache
primary config                      /Users/martinho.fernandes/.ccache/ccache.conf
secondary config      (readonly)    /usr/local/Cellar/ccache/3.2.5_1/etc/ccache.conf
cache hit (direct)                   767
cache hit (preprocessed)               2
cache miss                             0
called for link                       11
called for preprocessing               2
files in cache                     22818
Triggered a full rebuild.
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Lookup + cache hit is reasonably fast? I should look into that.
100GB of ccache, nice
I usually set it to 10GB.
Maybe I should reconsider :P
4 passport photos for $14.95, but 9 much larger photos on an A4 sized photo only costs $2.90
this gets cheapskate thinking ...
A full build on the build server takes about half an hour.
@nwp Full build takes one minute with 100% cache hits.
need photo for visa but photo booth at shopping centre gone :/
I could just copy & paste the picture on visa application - it's in pdf anyways ...
low tech ppl
11:30
Lads and lasses, do you know of any external GPS receivers that can feed more accurate GPS into Android smart phone? (Samsung S5mini)
@wilx Anything with WAAS should do better than phone's built-in.
Or whatever the local one is called.
@R.MartinhoFernandes WAAS? My aim is to make the coordinates more accurate when driving in a car using my smart phone for navigation.
Ah, the European version is called EGNOS.
@wilx Wow, the phone's not good enough for that? That sucks.
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, it is OK for that. I just want even more accurate position. :)
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11:39
On cppcast #65 they said most people use .h for header endings out of tradition and because IDEs default to .h, but actually .hpp is better because it prevents issues when mixing in C-code and it also stops github from guessing C or Objective-C on your .h-files.
not extremely convincing arguments, but I wonder if it makes sense to switch to .hpp
I use .h++.
Has all those benefits, but includes shitty editor detection (i.e. VS doesn't highlight them as C++).
I use .hxx/.cxx.
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@wilx they used .hxx/.cxx for tool-generated files
@R.MartinhoFernandes I still need to prevent build number increments from trashing my cache. Otherwise, our situation is similar. Very similar
@R.MartinhoFernandes I never notice much difference from raising that. But it is likely down to the version number shit (it's being passed in preprocessor defines. If I fix that, it should become better)
12:02
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also NoScript for some reason detects links to such files on GitHub as XSS attacks
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> I'm digging through different sources, but can't find a good description of the anatomy of child reaping.
lack of context can be a frightening thing
That's an interesting view
The poop ratio is enlightening
12:23
Hindi 'cakka' is cognate to English 'wheel'
That's not very obvious. Source & derivation?
Noun: *kʷékʷlos m ‎(non-ablauting)
  1. wheel
  2. circle
12:48
o.O
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12:58
I love how modern C++ and Qt are different things
not sure if that is intended or wishful thinking
13:14
@sehe I once heard that Henry Ford received a number of environmental awards for reducing our dependence on horses. I've never been able to confirm it, but it seems semi-reasonable.
Yup. Irony in retrospect, but still makes a lot of sense
@sehe I think any apparent irony derives from shallow analysis. Yes, cars produce a lot of pollution. However, transporting the same people the same distances in vehicles pulled by horses (or oxen, etc.) would produce substantially more pollution. There is undoubtedly some extra produced simply due to greater convenience, but I'm pretty sure the total is substantially lower in spite of this.
So that's the irony. In reducing dependency on horses, scalability problems have been removed, giving way to more environmental stress
13:33
@sehe Perhaps--but given the amount of industrialization already taking place before Ford got involved, I'm left with considerable doubt about whether his influence led to more pollution.
14:28
@JerryCoffin stop thinking about things so thoroughly (j/k - in fairness you seem to be refuting assumptions I'm not making; I was just appreciating your information on H. Ford)
14:51
Nice, got ccache stats on powerline.
Powerline is cool :)
misaligned icon triggers my OCD
also what is that rounded window border?
@sehe no life, only work
@AndreasPapadopoulos OSX crap.
Oh. I should have guessed.
15:02
I usually run the terminal fullscreen, though, so no borders.
Windowified it for screenie.
> HOW TO MANUFACTURE A PROGRAMMER: 1) have lots of unprotected sex, 2) have a child and get an STD, 3) die of syphilis, leaving the child fatherless, 4) because he has no father he or she will hate themselves and then, naturally, with self-loathing comes programming!
courtesy of @ScottW
Still in quest for a new distribution, but can't find anything nice but the slew of hipster ones
Trying out Fedora atm
I've often worked with Fedora.
On the other hand I almost never know which distribution I'm using and I'm not fluent enough with Linux to actually notice major differences.
I'm too spoiled by Debian to feel comfortable with anything else, I guess. At work we have CentOS and it irks me slightly.
I think we're using Debian at work, but I'm not even sure.
Last job it was Xubuntu. At school it was CentOS and Fedora. I used Fedora too during internships.
I still never had a Linux at home though.
15:13
@AndreasPapadopoulos Whatcha lookin' fer?
Something usable out-of-the-box or close to, and light enough to not drain my laptop battery like crazy.
So likely something that's gonna ship with non-free drivers, but not as "bloated" as ubloatu?
Oh.
I'm currently migrating my boxes to Debian.
Haven't done the laptop yet.
I'm kind of expecting to inevitably fall back to Debian
I tried out Mint (LMDE) it's nice.
What's LMDE?
Oh, Debian-, as opposed to Ubuntu-based.
15:21
But man, systemd :/
copy & paste own working code, still 10+ errors
Yes, but it seems it's creeping everywhere now.
mainly from missing imports
@AndreasPapadopoulos I know. It's getting harder and harder to find a decent distro that didn't migrate or isn't migrating.
Even gentoo has support for systemd now.
Ugh, hidden complexity is creeping everywhere is my apparently simple library :(
15:28
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
I think gentoo was the only distro I could name as "does not use systemd"
Resistance is futile, I guess?
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Hi
Back in paris.
Where were you?
Thanks Shorlek.
@AndreasPapadopoulos OpenRC is still default, though.
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15:33
Vendée & Lozère.
@AndreasPapadopoulos That pretty much sums up systemd's popularity.
@Ven All hail the brioche vendéenne /o/
That's how they work. They make silly opinionated decisions, then go around asking devs to change their code so that it works with systemd's breaking changes.
Or they subsume EVERYTHING AND THEIR DOG and thus tie every fucking program under the sun to systemd via their dependency trees.
slackware too iirc
can someone explain me in layman's term what is wrong with systemd?
systemd took over udev and logging, also does firewall, UEFI bootloader, DNS cache, and it even has a fucking web server to serve journal events over HTTP.
15:39
and why is that wrong ? Why the hate? Not being polemic, just curious
since both Stallman and Torvalds have a very neutral/positive attitude with systemd
@m.rossi It's ridiculous scope creep, and it ties everything under the sun to it.
and torvalds is a systemd User
The developers of systemd are also systemd users, I bet.
They're still dickheads.
They repeatedly break their stability promises, pick stupid defaults and blame the software they broke as a consequence for the breakage.
by the way iirc LMDE is no longer supported
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@Morwenn they did gift some to us
15:43
Yay :D
It also subsumed NTP and uses Google's time servers by default instead of pool.ntp.org, which not only means they depend on infrastructure out of control of the OSS community, but it also means they depend on infrastructure that willingly and knowingly violates expectations was not really meant for public consumption.
I've got to admit, I'm puzzled why this is a warning. stackoverflow.com/questions/25573996/…
Oh, DNS too.
Also defaults to Google's.
And I wish the proposed solutions did not seem so heavyweight
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@caps not using VS2010 may also be heavyweight, but totally worth it
15:49
@nwp I'm getting the error in VS2015
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ouch
In my case, the class has a template parameter that is an enum. Inside the constructor, it checks the value of that template parameter against one of the possible enum values. Since it knows the enum value at compile time the compiler complains that the if is constant.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Whaaat?
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wait a couple of years or decades and make it a constexpr if
I'm just going to wrap it in pragmas for now.
15:50
@AndreasPapadopoulos Google's time servers use Google's special concept of time, where seconds are not really seconds.
Why not use pool.ntp.org in the first place?
@AndreasPapadopoulos Don't exactly remember, but I think it boiled down to "I don't like it".
Sec.
So a key component of every system shipping with systemd defaults to a commercial ntp provider...? Unbelievable
15:52
The reason was because they didn't want to include a DNS resolver.
systemd now does DNS anyway.
They're fucking idiots.
@AndreasPapadopoulos If only it stopped at commercial... Google's NTP is nonstandard.
> > > > You may want to consider getting a vendor zone for systemd at
> > > pool.ntp.org and use it in the default list instead (after making sure
> > > there are no problems with frequent polling, etc.).
> >
> > we are not a vendor, as we don't really do products. Vendors may use
> > systemd to build a product, but in that case they should use
> > --with-ntp-servers= and set their own NTP servers of choice...
>
> Did you ask them? I think they would be ok with systemd having its own
> vendor zone, systemd is not that far to be considered a Linux
Ah, yes, they smear the leap seconds over many milliseconds
"systemd is not a product"
systemd triggers me.
It kind of scares me.
Sometimes, I'm not sure whether it's stupidity or malice.
ياليت يطّلع نظام من الداخلية الشاب من عمر ١٨ الى زواجه ما يسافر الا بموافقة ولي الأمر، لأن في شباب صعب السيطرة عليهم الا بالنظام •
@AndreasPapadopoulos You're not the first one to wonder that: muchweb.me/systemd-nsa-attempt
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sigh
@Khaled.K inshallah brother
@Abyx you can read the Translation on twitter
if (enum_value) does this code assume that the enum is being implicitly interpreted as some integer type which is being implicitly interpreted as a bool (0 or 1) or is there something I don't know about enums?
@Khaled.K oh I see. still it doesn't change my anwser
@m.rossi So, to sum up, the developers are bullies, and they are either idiots or downright evil.
16:01
people in my place are starting to consider making the Guardian over males open till marriage, instead of till 21.. includes not getting married without a consent, not travelling without a consent, ..etc
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@caps implicit conversion to int (unless it's an enum class)
@Khaled.K where is that?
@Abyx my place
move to Russia. while you can
@R.MartinhoFernandes SNRK.
16:10
@ThePhD It's funny, but I think he has a point there, though. systemd is ginormous.
Everything fucking depends on fucking systemd.
Isn't systemd low-level enough to replace with bits and pieces?
That's the before.
Were things ultra terrible before?
Like, why did systemd rise?
I would imagine it would have died if it was hard to deal with.
Either that or it got the super-volunter-feature-creep treatment over its lifetime.
@ThePhD Initially because "init was slow".
Oh boy.
Purrrformance.
16:17
@ThePhD But systemd gradually subsumed those subsystems.
In the case of udev, it got merged into the systemd tree, with the promise of you still being able to build it on its own, and the promise that they would support such builds.
And then it didn't quite shake out that way?
SURPRISE! Now using udev without systemd is not supported anymore.
Buahaha.
They do this shit all the time.
Literally, the feature eater.
16:19
They do these switcharoos and then are like "Attention all distros! You need to change shit to accommodate systemd!".
Who's "They"? The systemd devs?
Who... runs systemd? "Systemd", the various contributors? Linux folk? Torvalds? Redhat?
If it's this huge it must have some kind of oversight to it.
@ThePhD Yeah.
@ThePhD Lennart (original dev) and his cronies.
And BAM, a bunch more packages that cannot do without systemd.
Is Lennart the (more) evil version of Torvalds?
Seriously, fucking wesnoth depends on systemd.
16:22
A... turn based fantasy game depends directly on systemd ?
THE turn based fantasy game
@ThePhD See image above.
Right.
Geez, and I thought Windows dependencies were shit.
@R.MartinhoFernandes wesnoth is amazing
I recall an article that mentioned how a few python libraries have includes that automatically use logged in twitter accounts to like ads... systemd sounds quite a bit more ominous
16:32
@ChemiCalChems Yeah, I dig that game.
@caps i used to play every night with a group of friends
and we abuse the tagging system for territories and wrote funny things and had some laughs
@Khaled.K Are women already under such constraints there?
@ChemiCalChems I remember doing that.
then somebody feel asleep and we'd have to wait for 5 minutes for his turn to finish
@ChemiCalChems I used to play a bunch, but haven't played in a few years.
@caps yes, and our new generation is trying to get rid of such stupid old laws.
16:34
@caps if i had a group of friends that played regularly, i'd play
would you join?
@ChemiCalChems Probably not. I don't play any games regularly right now.
But I might join now and then.
A: "systemd doesn't update the hardware clock on shutdown anymore; that breaks my system because filesystem checks cannot reconcile the filesystem times with the no-longer-correct hardware clock"
B: "That's by design; install NTP to fix it"
Granted, this now no longer a problem because systemd includes NTP.
@R.MartinhoFernandes They don't want to be viewed as a vendor or a distro--that would limit them, and they're clearly out to take over the entire universe...
@caps I have seen more women when I traveled to London for training, in 3 days, more than the women I've seen for 29 years in my place.
16:38
@Khaled.K Wow.
@R.MartinhoFernandes facepalm
I should be sleeping.
@caps I'm not allowed to talk to a female outside my family by the law, so the only women I knew in my place were few relatives, less than 10.
@Khaled.K That's crazy.
@R.MartinhoFernandes The same problem that arises with unrestrained use of object-orientation. Problem: "the interface between these classes is fat and ugly." Cure: "merge them into a single class. Since the interface from that to the rest of the world is now even bigger and uglier, lather, rinse, repeat."
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I started with the wesnoth tutorial
> Good morning, Delfador! Is it time to attack things?
16:48
> The Battle for Wesnoth is a Free, turn-based tactical strategy game with a high fantasy theme, ..
what is a high fantasy?
Lots of magic and stuff.
@Khaled.K The kind that results from excessive drug use. Or maybe it really just means: "Originally written in German instead of Dutch."
It's more epic in scope than low fantasy.
> This should make things a lot simpler for stateless systems, or livecds,
since the RTC is never touched by default.
That... that's the core reasoning?
@JerryCoffin I think the proper term in that context is "potion"
16:50
Aren't most users... I dunno, users with a stateful machine?
@ThePhD There's no reasoning. It's always bullshit.
These people are absolutely off their rockers.
@Khaled.K "High Fantasy" is generally fantasy that is reminiscent of Tolkien.
@caps what is Tolkien?
@R.MartinhoFernandes But you have to realize: it's a complex problem to deal with. Specifically, the problems they fixed are imaginary, and the problems they caused are real.
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@Khaled.K The guy who wrote Lord of the Rings.
so it's a story of an epic journey of a hero to vanquish a great enemy.. or something like that
High fantasy is all about magic, prophesies, dragons, elves, and other races... and defeating the dark one to save the world.
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