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12:01 AM
I hope the editor delvoted all the closed crap.......
 
@AndrasDeak on human? there were only two closed questions
and yes
as well as voting to close approximately 20 of the questions
 
So it seems that a lot of these Godaddys are about email. As we noted earlier, there seems to be a canon here (already closed) and another here (accepted answer links the previous Q). So... do we just close the second as a dupe of the first and retag the first to keep for historical reasons? Del both?
 
@Machavity meh, there's a better canonical here godaddy.com/es/help/…
we don't need to keep anythin'
 
@TylerH that doesn't sound good, considering Tuna's previous "lots of tool rec" remark:/
guess I should hit the cvq for hooman
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [human]"
???
oh, no longer [human]..... :@
wonderful
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
12:16 AM
@AndrasDeak actually, check tyler's profile
 
And here I thought
> burninating a tag is the process of carefully moderating a specific piece of Stack Overflow (please think twice before doing tag-only mass edits, as they can be counter-productive); once the community reaches a consensus, burnination can proceed.
 
opencv seems to capture some
 
is it good for [human] recognition?
I guess captcha or something should map another part
@Braiam are you going over Tyler's edit history?
 
@AndrasDeak only the most obvious
 
that's fine by me:)
keep it up
 
12:20 AM
@Braiam I'll take "Obscure captcha questions" for $500, Alex
 
should've voted "migrate to puzzling.SE"
 
1:11 AM
Funny enough, the internal name for this was "Docu-toots". Perhaps we should've stuck with that... — Shog9 ♦ 6 hours ago
 
user6054931
@queen How do you know he's using the Linux Terminal?
 
2:28 AM
Morning!
 
too much steak
 
3:29 AM
oh lord, made a more careful observation of the godaddy locked question, and I'm scared...
stuff plain bad to potentially potentially dangerous
 
???
Please clarify?
 
3:48 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels this thing meta.stackoverflow.com/q/332208/792066
 
4:08 AM
@AndrasDeak they're all bad so they won't last long in the queue before being closed
@AndrasDeak I almost want to cast the last CV on that docs meta question so that we can reopen it
 
@TylerH
> This is a garbage post. Flag as "Rude or abusive" to destroy it quickly without poorly seeding the spam detector (see this [Meta answer](http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/317611)).
 
@TylerH It's the 'abusive' part, not 'rude'.
Also... fwiw, if Smokey sees it comments on it are pretty much unnecessary. It's going to die either way.
 
I interpret the abusive use to mean abusive language, not misuse of the site. For that, Spam is more appropriate to cover misuse of the site
 
which of course brings up the issue of the incorrectly narrow definition of spam by the site
 
 
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user3956566
^^ feedback guys it's relevant to this room
 
7:05 AM
spammy morning ...
 
@rene see CharCoal. It has so much spam even on a Saturday
 
user3956566
7:34 AM
@JonClements when there is a gap for the featured on meta, would you mind posting this one meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/327636/… again please? I think it's one of the most effective ways to get the word out. And it's pretty innocuous. Cheers. sorry to post this in here, it's the best place to find the pup
 
8:13 AM
Morning Rene
 
9:04 AM
Failed attempt to spam? stackoverflow.com/a/38929264/1364007 (click edit to see what they were trying to do - there's a link to a site in the source).
 
9:28 AM
Why this question has 2 undelete votes? I don't see a point in undeleting it.
 
@Gothdo You can delete it again if it is undeleted :P
 
@Gothdo maybe the LUA tag followers like that kind of questions?
 
@rene Then why did they closed and deleted it in the first place?
 
@Gothdo I'm tempted to cast the last undelete vote to see who undeleted it ...
 
What about this and this? That's just garbage.
 
9:43 AM
I dunno ...
Maybe they think undeleting 10,000 posts gives you a badge?
 
When a question was deleted not by the author, can he cast an undelete vote on it?
 
10:14 AM
Hiya all
 
Hiya
 
Morning Tuna
 
10:36 AM
@rene Or maybe they think they're the question fairy.
@rene *coordinated
Your lack of use of preterite annoys me.
 
@TIPS you annoy me ...
 
\o/
 
Don't delete MSO posts when I'm just warming up to join the drama ...
4
 
PSA.
Pin the message.
 
11:27 AM
@Gothdo yes
 
@dorukayhan Are you sure? @TIPS said "no".
 
@Gothdo even I think it is a no
 
TIPS still says "no".
 
What if the author has 10k rep?
 
@Gothdo yes i'm sure. i did it once on this post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/328042/…
 
11:32 AM
@dorukayhan that's meta. Not main
Though I dunno if the rules are same or different
 
Tunaki says yes.
I've seen it before.
 
Fine, FINE! I'll find a meta.SE post on this.
Oh, that's not how I read it the other day.
 
HAHA
 
I was looking for stuff to link to the "bump" question of mine, and I came across a post that said the OP's can't undelete their own stuff.
Perhaps they left out a lot of info in that other post.
Anyway . . .
 
What I've seen is: post deleted from review, user (whatever their rep) can undelete and a system flag is raised
post deleted by 3 20kers (review or not), user can vote to undelete, but that's 1 out of 3 votes.
 
11:39 AM
Why does it have to be always so complicated?
Sheesh
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
nooo the table!
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 13 hours ago, by Pops
Note to self: when I create my own DBMS, replace the traditional DROP TABLE x; command with FLIP TABLE x;
 
in Language Overflow on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by TIPS
Skeptics seems to be even more entertaining than meta.SO!
Sorry guys, perhaps I won't be reading much of your drama anymore.
 
Q: Is there a C++ tool to mutate C++ code automatically? Comment: Try the Abara Cadabara, it's a commonly used tool by the c++ wizards. link (10k+ only)
 
11:54 AM
@Gothdo screenshot?
 
The ability to see deleted posts is pretty cool :)
 
@Gothdo Don't remind me
Everyday: Struggling to get upvotes, when someone with a dumb question hits 3k rep without trying because one question is widely searched on google
 
12:02 PM
Such is life, Frank.
 
I remember the other day: Some guy asked a relatively stupid question, it was poorly worded, and overall a terrible question for the site. I saw he had like 3k rep, did a double take, and then went to his profile to find out what happened. All the rep was from one question about nodejs.
 
Plop everyone!
@Tyler Around?
 
Plop Kyll!
 
@Kyll Do you ming going through this burnination batch and close voting on at least a few questions?
 
12:17 PM
Sure thing.
 
Thanks! Just ping me whenever you're done
 
Not right now though
 
Sure. You can do it anytime. Just ping me when you're done
 
Sir yes sir! :D
 
12:56 PM
@Gothdo When you put in a reopen request on a question to which you posted an answer without disclosing that fact with your request in the room, you are justifying those who argue that the SOCVR room is a voting ring.
 
@Louis we are actually a voting ring
 
Wait what? Where are my votes? :/
 
@Louis How is the fact that I posted an answer to that question relevant? Anyway, it already had 4 reopen votes at that time, so probably it would be reopened anyway.
 
(that's not meant to be taken seriously btw)
 
@Braiam When people say "voting ring" they understand "you put in votes that directly favor me, I put in votes that directly favor you."
Voting to close some random question favors the site, not a specific user.
@Gothdo You have a vested interest in the question being promoted. As to its chances of being reopened, it had already been bumped out of teview by 3 leave closed votes.
 
1:03 PM
Unless it's deleted he'd still get rep for votes even if it's closed though
 
^ exactly what I wanted to say
 
so not really that vested
 
@ivarni Open questions are priviledged in visibility. More chance of being seen, more chance to get rep.
 
well yeah, but that's a minor difference. Always assume good intent imho
 
@ivarni When people say that this room is really just a glorified voting ring, the intent ship has already sailed. I'm talking about what it looks like.
 
1:10 PM
Well isn't it a (close)voting ring? Besides, who are these people? If they're just people butt-hurt that their question was closed I wouldn't put much weight on it, but I might have missed a discussion somewhere? Is there a meta thread about this room?
 
The room was shut down for a while some time ago. I missed the gory details of it though.
 
Well then since it's back up it's safe to assume the mods are OK with how it works though?
FWIW I never vote on questions linked here (or on meta for that matter), I just CV or ignore them
 
@ivarni It is back up because it is not a "voting ring" in the sense normally used on SO. "I upvote you and in return you upvote me." That's the classic definition of a ring. I've not yet heard of rings organized around "you reopen questions I answered and I reopen yours" but if ithis room starts looking this way, that will lead to complaints.
 
I see your point, I'm just not sure I agree with it being a problem
Now if someone could provide hard numbers showing that out of X reopen requests posted here, Y of them contain an answer from a person who answered it and that percentage is significant I'd tend to agree
Or rather, those numbers should be on requests from specific people to show that they're actively using this room for that purpose, and ideally on enough people to show that it's a trend
Without that it's just hearsay
 
Here's a meta discussion that is related to what is going on in this room.
 
1:21 PM
Thanks, I'll have a look
 
1:33 PM
@Louis Your answer is basically exactly what I was thinking after reading the first paragraph of the question
sorry for multi-ping. I can't type it seems
What I see from that thread is one person who's upset about how this room works and multiple people who are not. No matter what this room does, there's always going to be a vocal minority who dislike it and I don't think it's useful to put a lot of emphasis on how those people feel. But that's just my 2 cents, I'm in no way a regular here so my opinion probably shouldn't carry much weight, if any at all.
 
Would someone close this: stackoverflow.com/q/38933131/3933332 with: stackoverflow.com/q/8163746/3933332 ? I'm not entirely sure, because it does show/say that in OP's case he has to prepare his data a bit for the replacement. But on the other hand all cases of all 4 posted answers right now are covered inside the dupe. Of course it doesn't have OP's exact data and also doesn't include the preparation OP does need to do.
 
@ivarni The room has already made the effort to codify how it operates so that we have a reply to people who have misconceptions. As I recall, the notion that cv-pls means "please still use your judgment when you look at the question" was already a fact of the room before it was put in a FAQ, for instance. And I'm pretty sure rules were added to prevent accusations of impropriety.
 
You're probably more regular in this room than me so I'll back down and I'll leave it to @Gothdo to defend their position.
 
I just found an example of a rule that was added at the April meeting: "Can we ask for someone in the room to edit in a relevant tag on a question so that it can be single-handedly closed with the hammer?" The answer was "No."
 
I'd like to think the answer to that should be "No" even outside of the context of this room
 
1:46 PM
Well
if the question was mis-tagged in the first place
 
if you can't gold hammer a question you've edited then asking someone else to do the edit does circumvent the system, surely?
 
Well, the reply to that might be "Okay, I cannot ask, but you can offer." In other words, you want a question closed quickly and know I have the badge, you edit the tags and then tell me that you did. wink wink. Even this is not proper.
Perfectly fine to edit if the tags are wrong. Then happen what may.
 
@Louis Just to clarify if I got things right. You're arguing that you shouldn't be able to post a reopen-pls on a question to which you have an answer?
 
@ivarni we are sailing close to the wind, hence our huge set of rules. The CM team didn't feel the room needed to be discouraged, so it has its place. Nevertheless, we have great powers. That is why we only allow things to be organized here that can be scrutinized on meta if needed.
 
@Tunaki Initially, I was thinking that the fact that the requester has an answer should be made explicit with the request in the room, but the more I think about it the more I'm moving towards what you are saying: we should not be able to put in a reopen request in the room for our own questions, or for questions we have answered.
 
2:00 PM
@rene Yeah, I get that. It seems this issue is more complicated than I initially assumed
 
@Louis yeah, if you have potential personal benefit (in all kind of ways) from the post being handled by us you probably either should refrain from that or at least ask for advice/opinion first before brought up in the room.
 
@rene A topic for the next meeting?
 
2:15 PM
@Louis if this needs to be discussed I think we have a bigger problem... let me check with the other RO's and if not much objections it will be in the rules in 6 to 8 ...
 
@rene Oh, ok. You won't hear me complain if the room moves towards that without the need for a discussion.
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
I really don't think that would be a problem... I think we all think we have common sense
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Braiam don't assume I think I have common sense ...
 
2:30 PM
@rene right, you are a flower
 
3:06 PM
Tunaki passed a audit!
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 50 minutes and 20 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 15 seconds.
 
Sam
@Tuna is that right? ^
 
yes I believe it's correct. 2 audits and the time fits.
 
Sam
Good good
 
@Kyll sup
 
3:27 PM
@TylerH I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
TylerH passed a audit!
 
Sam
@Clo room stats
 
@Sam 3 members (9% of this room's registered reviewers) have processed 58 review items, which accounts for 6.12% of all CV reviews today.
 
Sam
the magic returns
 
Hey Tiny!
 
@TinyGiant o/
 
user4639281
3:33 PM
Lol, I found that while working, it is so egregious I just had to post a cv-pls lol
 
user4639281
Hai everybody
 
oy
 
we miss you come back bb <3
2
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Why would you miss a grumpy old guy like me?
 
3:34 PM
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[apt] [dpkg] [godaddy]"
 
Tiny o/
Undo o/
 
user4639281
Anyways, gotta run, work to do, have fun guys, thanks for the close votes!
 
@TinyGiant because you're magic
2
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant I only jsut mentioned you!
 
Room Poll: should I update from 16GB to 32GB of RAM first, upgrade my video card from my GTX 950 first, or switch out from my AMD CPU to an Intel CPU (requires a new mobo) first?
 
user4639281
3:37 PM
I can't even get work done cause I'm too busy close voting crap
 
user4639281
@GregP oh yah?
 
user3956566
in GoDaddy burnination, 25 mins ago, by Greg P
@FrankerZ there's different ways to deploy such with different hosting. (don't ask me why I know so much about wordpress.. where's Tinygiant?)
 
user4639281
Ahhhhh lol
 
Sam
@TylerH Which Intel CPU?
 
user3956566
LOLOLOL IKR
 
user4639281
3:38 PM
I was about to say "don't mention wp 'round me foo"
 
user3956566
we've missed you
 
@TylerH Depends on what you need it for :P
 
user4639281
nah, you're just pullin my chain
 
user4639281
y'all hate me and ya know it
 
user3956566
and I've butchered your scripts and created a review for close vote request that the ROs barely tolerated
 
3:38 PM
@TinyGiant yeah, trying to use it to pull you back here.
2
 
user3956566
yeh what undo said, we want you back!
 
user4639281
K, now I know it is off-topic, but does anyone know of a snappysnippet alternative for firefox?
 
user4639281
@undo lulz
 
user3956566
have you go some decent work?
 
user4639281
yeah, not bad, love the job
 
user3956566
3:39 PM
cool
 
user3956566
please com eback more often
 
user3956566
Cimmamon left :(
 
user3956566
and and
 
user3956566
someone c'mon
 
user3956566
tiger
 
user3956566
3:40 PM
somethink somethink left
 
user4639281
cimmanon left? I never thought that would happen
 
user3956566
yep SO
 
user3956566
she left her account open, but left
 
user4639281
Wow, I figured tiger would get fed up
 
user3956566
so we need you to come back the load of grief is too high! ;)
 
user4639281
3:41 PM
lol, this winter I'll be in more
 
user4639281
anyways, gotta run
 
user3956566
\o
 
3:54 PM
@Undo, might I bother you for a moment?
 
@TylerH Plop again. What do you think?
OMG
Tiny's here!
Plop Tiny!
 
@Siguza you might. Whatcha need?
 
I need a waffle, extra crispy.
 
And Siguza o_o
What's this, 2015?
 
3:56 PM
Oh, I guess I can do that
 
user3956566
@undo can you follow the link I gave you in charcoal please?
 
please hold for the next available representitive
 
@undo thanks. that post seems to have gotten absolutely zero attention from mods for some reason...
 
and my waffle!!!!
 
user3956566
@undo hey no way! no voice recordings O>O
 
3:57 PM
@Kyll I really just dropped by hoping to get hold of a mod :P
 
:( I am ignored
 
@Siguza That is just like you. How are you?
 
Huh, that's interesting.
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind please visit and assist here chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/32279913#32279913
 
I could inspect-element it in. Kinda tempted to try it.
 
3:58 PM
@Kyll Kinda tired. First exam went bad, second exam went excellent, third exam went acceptable. 5 more to go.
 
Meh, what could go wrong.
 
Ouch.
 
@undo Haha, please do. :P
But that screenshot is helpful already
 
we have lang-regex?!
since when regex is a programming language
 
@Tunaki We have also lang-html and lang-css.
 
4:00 PM
Since when are XML and LaTex programming languages? :P
 
True.
since when regex needs a special syntax highlight
 
They're languages though...
 
@Siguza Can you see what it says on stackoverflow.com/tags/go/info for the preferred language?
 
it's just a string with unreadable characters in it
@undo there is none
 
@undo Nothing anymore...
 
4:02 PM
hrmph, must mean I borked it
 
but just a sec...
maybe it gets applied correctly in posts...
it does
 
maybe they have lang-go?
 
@Siguza Link to an example?
 
@Undo, you're a boss! :D
oh wait
 
@Sam Well if I do go Intel I would probably go i7 because if I'm going to spend too much money on a CPU I might as well get the good one
 
4:03 PM
I couldn't see it working. Not sure if they've got a whitelist or what
 
@GregP - A little busy now.. Will go there in a few minutes
 
ugh
okay no
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind thanks
 
that was due to another tag
 
@Rizier123 Everything. It is my workstation and my gaming machine. I don't do hashing or protein folding or rendering though
 
Sam
4:04 PM
@TylerH Do you play games at all on this PC?
 
see ^
 
looks like the language name for highlight if actually golang instead of go.
 
@Tunaki the language is Go, the tag is golang
 
@TylerH
 
yeah, was talking about the highlight name
 
4:05 PM
@Siguza the tag is a lie
 
the one used in <!-- language: lang-BLOB -->
 
HL3 confirmed
 
Illuminati everywhere!
 
Are they running the Siguza Terminal? Maybe you can hack them.
 
Alright, thanks for your help @Undo. I'll go bug stack employees about this then.
 
4:10 PM
Posted an answer. Should be a quick fix.
also, changing that question to be just a bug.
 
Okay, thanks
I'll be off then
cya'all
 
o/
 
o/
Night o/!
 
4:30 PM
@PaulRoub Answerer reacted poorly to your comment there, flag-nuked it in SOCVFinder. I also flagged your comment as obsolete since the post has now been edited out of LO-shape (nothing against the comment itself).
 
On this post, should I completely give OP all "teh codez" (as requested in the comments) or leave my post as is? I'm leaning towards leaving it.
 
Classic vampiring. Move on! =D
 
@intboolstring ask him which part he does not exactly understand
 
4:52 PM
n or k?
 
user3956566
the site wasn't down it was spam man
 
meh, I assumed good faith.
 
@SmokeDetector meh, question is ot
 
5:17 PM
@Tunaki Done
 
@Tuna Done 3 times again
afk
 
5:55 PM
1 message moved to Trash can
@dorukayhan that can't be deleted and is not even closed
please post del-pls only if it is actually possible (and with a good reason)
 
Oh, I finally saw a message moved to Crash Tan today.
 
6:35 PM
@Tyler Did you see the gist?
 
@Kyll no what gist
 
@TylerH Dat one
Thought I pinged you with it a while back
 
I wouldn't ask that question Kyll. I would rephrase it to "do we need to lock it?"
 
I'd rather have an answer proposing to lock it, so that people can vote on it specifically
 
Or not even suggest the lock
 
6:41 PM
What about appending it to the question?
 
just ask "is this good content for SO?"
remember, the only reason to lock a question is because isn't available elsewhere
 
Due to the activity on it, closed and reopened multiple times by diamonds, that question will never reach consensus
 
or maybe ask for "how can we fix this question?"
 
Mh
 
Yes, that ^
 
6:46 PM
@Tunaki Mine, or Braiam's?
:32280998 Yeah but if you follow the arrow you land on Braiam's.
And there's a history of arrow ambiguity here
 
arrow ambiguity? never :)
@Kyll Braiam's message
 
@Tunaki do please answer the question ><
Ah. Agreed then.
Updated. Now?
> ugh
Lol @Braiam
Also, JavaScript, not Javascript
 
meh, so long there isn't a whitespace in-between
 
7:06 PM
@Kyll jAVAsCRIPT
 
well look at that
the chemical mutated
 
Looks at that
Yes.
And my name still allows for puns.
 
You're you to me.
 
@DEAD is such structure actually possible?
 
I could've named myself "DEADCAT", but that was too harsh. "DEAD" is better.
 
7:07 PM
@DEAD Is it a good drug at least?
 
@DEAD yeah, and cats would have found it offensive?
 
@Braiam Well, in the sense that those atoms lie in a plane, this structure would be inaccurate, but other than nitpicking about 2D representations, this is certainly plausible.
@πάνταῥεῖ It's not a drug, technically.
 
@DEAD You're disappointing me :(
 
relevant xkcd is relevant xkcd.com/1475
 
@Braiam One-Box is okey for such case I suppose:
 
7:10 PM
meh, I was being nice to those with shitty mobile plans
 
technically, the sentence didn't start with technically
still no one-box though
 
@Tunaki I was talking about the drugs part :/
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Find a drug's name that allows for puns, and you can foretell my next next username.
(My next username is taken)
 
taken? Not a great username.
 
@Tunaki but awesome for a movie :P
 
7:18 PM
:D
 
@Tunaki ಠ_ಠ
 
hmm I went NAA on that one.
 
@Tunaki I also did. Was that the false reaction to feed SD?
 
you flagged NAA but blacklisted the user?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You should reply "NAA-".
The minus sign indicates that Smokey will not bother you with a ping.
 
7:23 PM
ha! I answered a FB question...
 
Also works in accordance with these guys' "not cluttering the transcript" and all.
 
I don't feel as dirty as when I answer PHP or regex questions
 
@DEAD To smokey?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yep
 
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