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8:00 AM
Seriously. This code made me hit my head on the desk.
 
did you see a doctor for such an injury?
 
nah. my head's empty. I didn't feel a thing.
 
rofful
 
So it's supposed to print
Hello.
.
.
.
(blank line here)
 
why the f*ck couldn't it just have been cout <<"Hello. \n. \n. \n." << endl; ?
 
8:02 AM
@IntermediateHacker: That's what I was thinking
 
I wonder how many other similar offenses have been committed by C++ newbs.
 
Besides using endls all over the place?
 
I bet there's a using namespace std; somewhere
In a header file. shudders
 
yeah. that's scary.
 
8:09 AM
I've seen somebody manage to turn a merge sort algorithm into something with O(n^2) complexity
My goodness that was painful
And it didn't even work. >_<
Okay, seriously why the fuck does ALL my webpages look different in every single fucking browser?
 
because you suck at writing webpages? :p
 
@jalf: That might be the case
 
that reminds me. I should really start learning web-dev.
 
because the state of web standards is somewhat poor
 
@Insilico you're using HTML-5 stuff?
 
8:13 AM
But when I write a C++ program there's a high chance it will work on whatever platform I run it on
 
@DeadMG well, it was poor 5 years ago. It's pretty decent these days
 
(assuming I'm using standard c++)
 
@Insilico and is your webpage standard html? ;)
 
A webpage with any Javascript or fancy HTML/CSS stuff on the other hand...
 
both html and C++ have a lot of undefined behavior you have to navigate around ;)
 
8:13 AM
@jalf: I try to, but the W3C's standards document is nowhere near as clear as the C++ standard
 
@jalf but you don't get a debugger with HTML.
 
Nice sequence of 'trivial' blog posts:
 
and that's saying something
 
@IntermediateHacker Sure you do
 
8:14 AM
> The one thing that makes gives me more of that bone-chilling existential dread than anything else in the world, the thing that makes me question the fundamental physical underpinnings of the universe and fear the answers, is code that stops working as you’re staring at it, at the exact moment you realize that it should never have worked in the first place. Not cool, universe. Not cool at all.
@sbi start with the first ;) I think you'll appreciate it
 
@jalf what? there's a debugger for HTML ? but it's a f*cking markup language.
 
There's firebug, and most browsers have incorporated most of that functionality into the core browser
 
@IntermediateHacker As of right now, not really
 
sbi
@sehe What?
 
@IntermediateHacker yeah, but it's a f*cking markup language that a lot of people spend a lot of time doing a lot of work with. So having a debugger will benefit a lot of people ;)
 
8:15 AM
woah, firebug looks awesome.
 
@IntermediateHacker It it's markup, but it's dynamic (DOM + script) and has the most convoluted scheme of inheritance that requires specialized debugging tools, yes
 
they're pretty clever too. Mouseover an element on the screen to highlight it + the corresponding html source, and vice versa
dynamically modify properties and see the result updated on the fly
 
@IntermediateHacker: Opera has DragonFly, IE has develop toolbar, Chrome has Developer Tools, and Firefox has the 'first mover': Firebug
 
firebug even shows a nice diagram of exactly how the page is composed (this much margin on top, then this much padding, then ....)
 
It's not an incident that all browsers have 'html debuggers'
 
8:17 AM
2
A: Unmovable files in VS2010 project

DeadMGApparently, this is something special. The problem only occurs if the root folder is named "UI". All other folder names work as expected. Re-creating the folder and files has no effect, but if the root folder is not named "UI", then everything correct. Going to chalk this one up to a Visual Studi...

two months later, I finally work around Visual Silliness
 
@sbi Oh, scroll up, I just posted two links I enjoyed
 
sbi
@sehe TBH, I have no idea what that guy is talking about.
 
you guys are at work, right?
 
@DeadMG: I'm not. It's 1:19 AM here
 
@DeadMG I'm not, this time. Wednesday is my parttime day - usually
@sbi My take: The first is about the existential doubt that creeps in when you realize you thought you knew how to teach a computer tricks (but it turns out all you did is hide undefined behaviour)
 
sbi
8:21 AM
@DeadMG I am.
 
@sbi The second is about the existential fear that balances the joy of having kids (you worry; in this picture, you worry about boys with your daughter)
 
sbi
@sehe Well, the first one is the one that made me consider before writing "no idea". I have certainly seen code/computers do things I don't understand, though never in the way he describes it.
 
I thought it was rather funny. I do hope in practice he doesn't sweat it nearly that much.
On both accounts
@sbi You know how it is with blogs and poetic license
 
sbi
@sehe OMG. That guy must be a Merkin, that he fears for his daughter when she walks hand in hand with a boy at the age of, what is it?, 6?
Also, now that my daughter and I have discussed contraception for her and decided to do the right thing, I am more worried about her brother, whom I cannot equip this way.
:-/
 
:)
You can equip him with condoms!
Man, I cannot imagine doing that myself though.
 
sbi
8:25 AM
@wilx I did that with my daughter, too.
 
Yeah! Notice the skirt. Notice my comment :)
I still appreciate the gist of that sequence. I thought it made showed some real recognizable stuff - by exaggeration
 
Fortunately, I am still years away from that need.
 
sbi
@sehe Which one's yours?
@wilx You wish!
OMG, now that I had another look, the girl is maybe 4 years old! What a hysterical parent! My oldest daughter and her brother still liked to share one bed on weekends once in a while when they were around 14/11.
 
@sbi Ah, my real name's Seth
Jan 12 at 15:24, by sehe
@SethCarnegie And welcome, name-twin
 
sbi
Oh really, there is a room called toilet. Sometimes I can't help but have to doubt humanity. Sigh.
 
8:28 AM
@sbi I even have two of those. At my house
 
@sbi oh man, your children are DOOOOOMED
 
Strike that. One is actually called 'bathroom'
 
sbi
@sehe So your comment reads "Zing!". Frankly, I dunno what to make of it.
@sehe You don't go there to chat, though?
@jalf If that's the case, I wish all children were doomed. Would make this world a better place, I suppose.
 
@sbi "Rob" snarkily remarks "[Wut?! ] Because her skirt doesn't reach her ankles?" - Zing!
I thought that aptly addressed my initial response: the parent is either overreacting or overly prude (hence the dress-reference). Or both
@sbi Not usually. I often go there to doubt humanity
 
sbi
@sehe Contrary to popular believe, I can read more advanced material than "Zing!", so I have read the full conversation between that Rob and you. I still don't know what to make of it, though. But never you mind. Maybe I'm just too old.
@sehe "Doubting humanity" seems a rather poetic description for "taking a shit". However, being a bloody furriner, I'm never sure about poetry in English.
 
8:36 AM
@sbi Some things don't work over the internets. I bet there is a bit of cultural difference involved, as well as a mood-impedance-mismatch. No problem - you don't have to like it on my behalf
@sbi I strangely enjoy throwing this punny nonsense on the wire.
I guess I should get started on the cleaning the house - now's the time (with an empty house for another 1.5 hours)
 
> hi, I am from Mars. and i love this anthem, i wish we could have one the same like this. ~ Youtube Comment.
^ I wonder if this is sarcasm or the guy is nuts.
 
@IntermediateHacker or if he is from Mars
 
or martians use youtube...
weird...
 
@jalf Most likely, he is from Mars and he is being sarcastic
 
sbi
@sehe and nuts.
 
8:46 AM
lol. martian && sarcastic && nuts.
 
@sbi it's "Contrary to popular belief", not "believe"
sorry, couldn't resist
 
sbi
@ScottW So are you close to the equator, where Neptune rotates once in about 18hrs, xor to the poles, where this only takes 12hrs?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Oh well.
@ScottW Take that, robot!
 
sbi
8:58 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Anyone who answers a "A or B?" question with "yes" must be a robot.
@ScottW Is there a difference?
Zing!
 
@sbi Oh, I thought you were talking to me.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I meant to ask you why I should rule Ridley Scott?
 
@ScottW prolog usually answers 'no' in my experience
 
sbi
@ScottW "Oh no!?", shirley?
 
what's with the Zing! here?
Why not Zoidberg?
 
9:02 AM
@sbi What?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes You retweeted a tweet that said I should rule Ridley Scott.
 
@sbi Oh come on, I didn't write that!
Stop acting like a robot yourself.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, but you seemed to like it.
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm a C++ programmer.
 
@ScottW Gimme some slack, I just woke up.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Robots never sleep.
 
9:04 AM
Robots don't nap they NOP
3
 
@sbi I'm a big fan of Alien, and I'm very interested in Prometheus.
 
@ScottW Predates my chat presence by quite a while
Jan 12 '11 at 22:54, by James McNellis
@sbi Zing!
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes You seemed to like the statement.
 
@TonyTheLion That is also an oldie
 
@sbi Arrgh, Y U TROLL ME? Yes, I like the statement because I sympathize with the feeling, assuming it has the proper commas.
 
9:06 AM
Jan 13 at 22:07, by Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes And robots don't nap, they nop.
Earlier references do exist (Jan 2)
 
That would be Tantalus
 
sbi
@sehe You didn't think @Tony came up with this himself?
 
@sbi Quite possible he did
 
sbi
@ScottW To call this "interesting" is interesting in its own way.
 
9:09 AM
@sehe Nope, Tantalus is the one with the fruit he can't reach.
 
sbi
Haha, I like this art project.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You're right
 
@sehe it's prometheus iirc
 
sbi
Of course this is Prometheus! How did you think I found this picture on the web? By googling for "Tantalus"?
 
@sbi I wonder why is it always only women who get painted on...
 
9:15 AM
@sbi: Perhaps you made a really good drawing of it in paint and used Google Image search by Image function?
 
:D
 
sbi
@wilx Maybe I should hide this a bit better.
 
@ScottW: Now, you can't get arrested for sexual assault for walking around naked
Indecent exposure, perhaps
 
Depends on the country/state/county
 
9:16 AM
@sbi Yay!
Ok, but that guy is just a guy.
 
Oneboxing strikes again
 
There are certainly better looking men.
 
Or at least those that more more fit.
 
@sehe I know, I stole it :P
 
So I just found out TortoiseHg can compare Word documents
THAT IS COOL
 
sbi
9:18 AM
@wilx Oh well.
@Insilico There's also scripts coming with SVN to do that, I think.
 
@sbi are you implying I lack originality? :P
 
@sbi: Your link doesn't work, apparently
 
someone flagged a "hi" as offensive, so silly these flaggers
 
sbi
@Insilico Mhmm. Works for me.
 
9:19 AM
@TonyTheLion ASijfhakfha-uwg People suck.
 
@sbi: That's weird, it works in Firefox
Wait, hold on
 
@RMartinhoFernandes it's just plain stupid, imo
 
Okay, now it works
No it works now I think I pressed a key or something and messed up a URL
 
Guys, it is just an extremely spammy site. Browser redirects, popup, popunder galore
 
9:22 AM
> actually your question don't seems to be clear. It would be better you ask it on StackOverflow itself
 
@ScottW mods only
 
How the hell is that spam and/or offensive?
 
@Insilico marked it invalid
 
sbi
@sehe And, IIRC, even they only as long as a message is actually flagged.
 
@Insilico Someone is not liking it. Flagging is free for all...
@sbi True
 
sbi
9:23 AM
@Insilico Context.
 
Flagging system is broken.
 
@sbi: Not sure how "it might be better if you ask it on Stack Overflow" is spam or offensive in any context
 
Anyone know how to enable the --debug (or --verbose) option with GNU sort? I'm pretty sure I used it before. Trying to find why sort -bk2.2n doesn't do what I expect
 
@Insilico "Whenever I say the word 'better', I mean 'you're all a bunch of retarded assholes'".
There's your context.
 
sbi
@Insilico Shrug. Suppose the poster had been told half a dozen times already that this is wrong for whatever he's replying to, and still insists. Or he's posted that 25 times in a row.
 
9:28 AM
mornin’
 
@KonradRudolph: Morning
 
What's wrong with that?
 
@ScottW: What's stopping you?
 
Are you pregnant?
 
aaaaargh
visual studio, y u return to the start of the line when I enter a semicolon?
 
9:39 AM
That one is easy.
Because it sucks.
 
Because you accidentally pressed the Home key for some reason?
 
my keyboard is in a language I don't speak
it's pretty safe to bet that I didn't push any keys beyond the obvious
 
Or the home key is playing you
Autoformat?
Although that's a bizzare autoformat rule if that what's happening
 
I'm coding in C++
how many semicolons do you think I need?
:P
 
Speaking about pregnancies... I totally want to see this movie: youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIp5COqqGM
 
9:41 AM
Not many.
 
@DeadMG: Depends on how readable you want your code to be
 
Just comma your way through.
 
comma?
 
I know what a comma is :P
just unsure as to how it would prevent my need for
 
9:44 AM
So what did you ask then?
 
ohhhh
I wrote semicolon but I meant colon
 
semicolon wouldn't be that big of a deal :P
man, I probably should not be polling the Sim class for data about the state of the renderer
that's probably a Dumb Idea™
new idea: my scene architecture is dumb and needs changing
oh well
 
Ok, today I'm going to get back to my roguelike. First step: nuking most of the code.
 
destroying code is always hard, but usually right
 
sbi
9:56 AM
TIL that some Violet Jessop survived the collision of the RMS Olympic in 1911, the sinking of its sister ships RMS Titanic in 1912, and HMHS Britannic in 1916. The 3rd time she remembered to grab her toothbrush, but very nearly died. She nevertheless continued to work as an ocean liner steward and nurse until 1950.
Miss Unsinkable.
 
@sbi She's from the future doing catastrophe tourism.
 
miss "I've got huge balls"
anyone else would have quit
 
sbi
Interestingly, on the Olympic and Titanic she served under the same captain. IIRC, he died in the latter disaster.
 
She killed him!
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes She didn't kill the captain of the Britannic, though.
 
10:40 AM
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Q: Can a dynamic language like Ruby/Python reach C/C++ like performance?

IchiroCan you build compilers for dynamic languages like Ruby to have similar and comparable performance to C/C++? From what I understand about compilers, take Ruby for instance, compiling Ruby code can't ever be efficient because the way Ruby handles reflection, features such as automatic type convers...

Interesting discussion …
Suitably illustrated :D
@sbi Someone has been reading SPON ;)
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph :)
 
What's SPON?
Oh, Spiegel Online?
 
oh hey, second time in 6 hours that the server hosting our dns, email, cvs and a few other minor things crashes. That's good news, right?
 
.lol
 
@jalf Does that mean you have an excuse for slacking?
 
10:48 AM
man, I have to refactor my code again
 
sbi
@DeadMG If you are serious about programming, you will be refactoring code for most of the rest of your life.
 
I know :P
it probably will only take me half an hour
just a bad day today
 
11:16 AM
> from an artistic perspective, the audience are the only legitimate owner of a piece of art.
 
I love it when people try to imply that their point of view is the only correct one. :)
 
@jalf Yeah, that's stupid. Everyone knows my point of view is the only correct one.
@jalf SCNR posting a TVTropes link in your latest answer.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes hmm?
 
11:51 AM
huh
just realized I had a class that multiply inherited and I never noticed
 

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