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12:00 AM
@cimmanon What do you mean?
 
TIL that if you dynamically add a stylesheet (even a blank one) in the same frame that you dynamically trigger a transition it cancels the transition. (I think this is how it works, I haven't created a reduced test yet)
@Ryan can you remove parts of your code and still reproduce the problem?
also try using the dev tools in IE to inspect the css on that element, should help you figure it out
also check it is not a caching issue
 
 
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3:35 AM
It's weird to look at a picture from around the world and think, "I've been there. At that very place"
 
 
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Wes
5:50 AM
@Loktar ahahah epic
 
6:11 AM
posted on March 10, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
 
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8:14 AM
@joshhunt Thanks, I'll have a look. :)
 
@MadaraUchiha HAHAHA, aahh man. Hes trying his hardest not to laugh at the end
 
 
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9:39 AM
Hello devs
 
@MadaraUchiha I'm wondering if a question like "What is the difference between 'clearfix' and the clear property?" would be useful. Seems like a lot of people get the two mixed up, no thanks to float layouts being such a pain. But it's already 2016 and people are just getting started moving to flexbox, so... I don't know if it would be useful
 
any one had problems with <a href="path/yo.jpeg" download>get</a> ?
In FF in opens image in window.. not downloads
 
9:56 AM
@BoltClock Could be, I'm assuming you pinged me because of my clearfix answer
 
@MadaraUchiha yyyep
 
Maybe create the question and link as a duplicate to mine, and edit mine to generalize and include the difference
Another canonical is also a valid option
 
I think the community will raise hell if I create a question just to mark it as dupe
 
 
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Wes
11:32 AM
@MadaraUchiha around?
 
11:58 AM
asquare?
 
Mornings
This room becomes really inactive now a days :/
@PeeHaa hola
 
@BoltClock no, there is a meta question asking exactly that. the consensus was "thats perfectly fine"
 
@cimmanon I must have misremembered, then
 
Sorry to interrupt, who cares about meta añymore?
 
@NullPoiиteя Sadly, it has
 
12:11 PM
It's me or everybody but I find people loosing interest in SO ecology...
@StephanMuller true I was been here in Golden days of this room and php... But since then everything is been changed
Though I am contemporary to wes and criptc also mike
 
@NullPoiиteя o/
 
@NullPoiиteя I wonder why fewer people stick around
we still get a lot of new people, but we don't seem to gain any new regulars lately
 
@PeeHaa hey how you doing?
 
Good. How are you?
 
12:20 PM
I am chasing a wild goose :)
 
Sounds... fun :)
 
A wild goose chase ---- efforts in vain ) I have been in this room since 2012 and none of you native English speakers use idioms, May I ask why?(just a question)
 
Because there are a lot of non native speakers. And whenever I am on a wild goose chase I prefer to use swearwords instead :P
 
Lol true ... No one teaches to call by names :D
Cya I am going for it again :) 🐓🐓🐓🐓👟👟👟
 
Good luck
:-)
 
12:33 PM
Thanks bye
 
@NullPoiиteя You're going to step on chickens with your 3 legs?
 
12:50 PM
 
@StephanMuller Yeah known wtf
 
hello to all
I am facing an error in firebug [no element found]
 
hey Hey HEY!
 
any guess to fix it?
 
I'm rather new to this web stuff, but a long time c# dev.
 
12:57 PM
I am developing asp.net applcation and its run fine in IE or chrome but showing above error in firebug
 
So I have this question about html elements. As I understand it I can add a "custom" property to any element <input type="test" myProperty="3" />
If I inspect the element the property is there. But I don't know how to reach the property from .js
 
@Markus "custom" properties must be prefixed with data- in order to be valid (eg. <input data-myProperty="3" />).
 
ok, and how do I reach it by .js?
.myProperty ?
 
did you try googling your question first?
because i have a hard time believing "javascript get attribute value" turned up nothing
 
@cimmanon kindly see my above question
 
1:06 PM
@AhmerAliAhsan dont ping random users. also, we dont debug via vague "i am doing a thing but it doesnt work"
 
my apology
 
Found it. Thanks for the data-
 
what do u think about this design ?
 
1:26 PM
@FastSnail not much of a design. contrast is a bit low on the navigation
 
Hmm, didn't really work as expected... according to the manual it should be possible to add data with $('#myElem').data('myProp', 3) and then retrieve it with $('#myElem').data('myProp'). Now I don't have the $('#myElem') instead I have a elemCollection.each(function(index, obj){test = obj.data('myProp');...}
 
@cimmanon i develop some front page and i asked how is this few times .so chat users said it's not good .then i edit a existing page by inspector .and still people say it's not good.so actually this is a test .@cimmanon do you have a portfolio ?
 
and I get a obj.data is not a function
 
@FastSnail yes.
 
maybe the obj != $('#myElem')
 
1:34 PM
@Markus there is a javascript chat room .
 
oh, sorry
 
@cimmanon can i see it
 
@FastSnail cimmanon.org
 
@cimmanon 502 error
 
sec, server went down last night
ok, its up now
my server admin is lazy and hasnt set it up to automatically restart ><
 
1:39 PM
@cimmanon Does the name of the server admin rhyme with cinnamon by any chance? :-)
 
no
my husband manages the server
 
Close enough
 
when we first got together, the plan was for him to do all the programming and serverside stuff, and i was going to do all of the frontend stuff. his half of the work shrunk a lot over the years ;-)
 
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Q: CSS nth-child priority

MarcelI got a question about :nth-child() in css. When I got an html structure like this: <div class="parent"> <div class="child">child</div> <div class="child">child</div> <div class="child">child</div> <div class="child">child</div> <div class="child">child</div> <div class="child">child<...

 
ahh now it's available
 
1:44 PM
'how does cascading work'
 
@cimmanon very nice design
 
@FastSnail thank you
 
@cimmanon :-)
 
1:58 PM
preoccupiedterritory.com/… :-D Funny that a rabbi named Yahoo is considering ordaining the search engine Google
 
2:15 PM
hello which programe use to make this kind of graphics
 
!!google how to make a gif or webm
 
i'm actually asking about this kind of images not gif ...those images are different from normal images ?
not the animation
 
@FastSnail looks like an after effects animation to me
 
i took this from dribbble
almost every image looks so awesome .i hope those images are not created from photoshop?
 
2:23 PM
there are a lot of ways to create images like that
I'd guess Illustrator
 
like this
 
graphicdesign.stackexchange.com can likely help you, but you have to include what you've tried when posting
 
ok thanks
 
@FastSnail You need to improve that question :P
 
heh, i still have a letter from Subway. my husband wrote to them complaining about how none of the stores do a V-cut in the bread anymore. they responded saying that 97% of customers preferred the newer, non V-cut style
 
2:41 PM
Do they say that because only 3% had complained and the other 97% hadnt yet? :P
the 3% grows steadily every day
 
maybe
you a V-cut guy, too?
 
I have no idea what a v-cut is, I am sorry
oh I see... But dont you waste a lot of bread that way?
 
@ZachSaucier duuude
this is unbelievable too -> github.com/jcjohnson/neural-style
@FastSnail Illustrator + After Effects most likely, yeah
to keep it general, [ Vector based graphic editor] + [ composition and animation software ]
 
@MethodMan what? no. its the same amount of bread. you cut the wedge out and then put it on top after you put in the ingredients. for certain types of sandwiches, particularly meatball, it is the only way to cut the bread without having your toppings spill out. see here: thefreshloaf.com/node/12602/… (they didnt put the wedge back on afterwards)
 
@cimmanon V cut?
 
2:57 PM
@TylerH it has different names, its the way they originally cut their bread
 
When was the last time they cut their bread that way
I've only ever seen them cut it into top and bottom halves my entire life
 
i started eating subway in 1993 (when i got my first job, in the same plaza as subway)
they started phasing it out right around 2000, i think that letter was dated 2002
 
I've only got something at Subway once in my life
and I was absolutely plastered when I did, so I have no ida if it's actually any good
 
i think it was $2 or $3 for a 6" meatball sub :D
 
I think you definitely would lose some bread with that cut
 
3:00 PM
nope, no bread lost
 
based on the simple physics, at least, it's not really possible
 
they cut the wedge out in a single piece and put it on top afterwards. bread smushes
 
Because bread tears almost immediately when you stretch it
oh, well if you put that cut out on top, yeah
none of the pictures I was looking at had that
 
yeah, they put the wedge back on after. i think some pictures leave it off because it looks prettier
 
I like the basic cut down the middle way more, though. It's more sensible for a sandwich and allows for a more even distribution of bread - stuff - bread
 
3:02 PM
if you ask for a v-cut now, they just give you a dumb look :-(
 
Yeah most of the people who work there are probably too young to have ever known abou tit
People on forums seem to complain about the "new" cut being messier but I don't have that problem because I never get toppings on my subway subs
 
what? noway. the places ive been to dont cut the bread all the way through. since there is a hinge, the toppings dont go all the way to the edge
meatball, chicken pizziola, and a couple of other types are messy without any toppings/condiments. they are best served with the old cut
 
I mean I could see it for people who get tons of toppings
like lettuce tomatoes black olives and all that shit
 
the meatballs just squeeze out the sides of the newer style cut. i dont even get it anymore because of it :-(
 
but I only ever get ham and cheese
and no toppings or dressing
 
3:06 PM
Does anyone know if google has like a crawl limit on each page (how much it crawls before it stops) or does it always crawl the whole page. My links that are in my footer don't seem to have been crawled
 
it should crawl the whole page
is your footer dynamically loaded?
 
Nope not on this particular website. Weird maybe i just need to wait a few days :)
I just thought I remembered reading somewhere that some crawlers stop crawling after x many lines or w/e
 
maybe, I can't help but think that amount is probably way higher than your site, though
 
Yeah let's hope so ;)
 
3:23 PM
1 message moved to Trash can
 
dont spam chat with brand new questions, give the QA time
 
Sorry @cimmanon - won't happen again
 
@ZachSaucier I don't even have 125 rep on GD :-D
 
@TylerH You can upvote mine :P
or at least my comments on his answer
 
3:37 PM
 
I voted to close the question as opinion based
GD is much more accepting than me
 
upvoting your answer for the Sara Soueidan info alone
 
@TylerH @ZachSaucier I don't even have an account
Adobe Animate CC is far from the only SVG animating software — Zach Saucier 1 hour ago
I'm a Flash/Animate apologist but lol
 
@BoltClock lol at me or at him?
 
@ZachSaucier at him
 
3:44 PM
Good :P
 
@TylerH I don't think Inkscape supports SVG animations...?
 
@BoltClock it provides resources of tutorials of how to pair Inkscape with animators inkscape.org/en/learn/animation (linked in my answer)
 
neat
Not out of the box though. And I guess the OP gets really picky about that
 
i dont think it really supports css, either? like, if you tried to use a style element to contain your styles, it gets stripped away :-(
 
OP just wanted to repwhore
 
3:49 PM
sometimes i wonder if allowing lowreps the ability to self-answer right away is a good idea.
 
If the users of GD knew what they were talking about in terms of animation the answer he provided would have been downvoted to oblivion
 
@cimmanon Using the "answer my own question" box? I've yet to encounter a single case of someone using it to post NAA. The 8-hour timeout from the past ended up with too many new users with legitimate answers having to edit the answer into their question instead
All the NAAs that new users post after the fact can be scrubbed easily
 
@BoltClock its not NAAs that are a problem, its the low quality trash
 
oh wow, I didn't even realize that was a self-answer @ZachSaucier
 
copy pasted from a reddit post
 
3:58 PM
@ZachSaucier Wait seriously? OK I'm pretty sure you can flag that as plagiarism
 
the mods know it and don't seem to care
I suppose that's because it's linked in the answer under "References"
 
~> is sometimes called a "spermy operator". — Andrew Grimm Nov 28 '10 at 22:45
 
Content that is copied and pasted verbatim must be quoted
 
@BoltClock well if its his own reddit post it's not plagiarism
or is it
 
(the mods on GD don't seem to like me very much for some reason even though I'm one of the primary contributors, lol)
 
3:59 PM
A "reference" section does not suggest in any way that the content isn't actually yours
We get a lot of people who use "reference" sections to excuse copying of content and I delete their answers anyway
 
I suppose it is still plagiarism
it's just not "unauthorized use"
 
1 min ago, by BoltClock
Content that is copied and pasted verbatim must be quoted
 
@cimmanon lol
 
@TylerH sucks!
:D
/me runs away
 
-_-
@Sippy yur mum
 
4:01 PM
@TylerH Yeah, it's hard to tell if the content is really his
But if he's using his own reddit post as a reference, then that just undermines the answer even more
"I have no one else to support my claims besides myself"
"It's true because I said so"
 
i dont think that guy was lowrep when he posted that selfie ^
 
@MartinJames You should prove him wrong by giving me a really elegant solution that depends on your correctness in this matter. — jphollowed 18 mins ago
OP should be a politician
 
@cimmanon That looks like an issue with the question more than the answer
We get users who do that all the time
Writing answers is easy. Writing the questions to justify them is hard. It's why Weird Al lost on Jeopardy
 
4:19 PM
@ZachSaucier he seems to care a great deal about SVG. stackoverflow.com/questions/24869051/…
 
SVG tooling, yes
I'd like to see what he actually makes with the tools
 
@BoltClock What did I do there
I don't see it
 
nvm
 
Unless you mean "tried to be politically correct"
 
I was thinking "cisgender = !transgender" but I forgot about everyone in between
 
4:30 PM
I mean I didn't want to just list every possible group, then it might seem like I was being overly PC
I dunno what Pi-avra Pie means though
 
Pi-avra Pie...?
 
That guy
πάντα ῥεῖ
whatever the fuck his name sounds like
 
Heraclitus of Ephesus (/ˌhɛrəˈklaɪtəs/; Greek: Ἡράκλειτος ὁ Ἐφέσιος, Hērákleitos ho Ephésios; c. 535 – c. 475 BCE) was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher, a native of the Greek city Ephesus, Ionia, on the coast of Asia Minor. He was of distinguished parentage. Little is known about his early life and education, but he regarded himself as self-taught and a pioneer of wisdom. From the lonely life he led, and still more from the apparently riddled and allegedly paradoxical nature of his philosophy and his stress upon the needless unconsciousness of humankind, he was called "The Obscure" and the "Weeping...
 
"Everything flows" in Greek
 
4:39 PM
@BoltClock damnit. guess that will teach me to take a shower ;p
 
@cimmanon how dare you leave your post!
 
hey guys. I am new to web development. can any of you please provide me a link where I can find all the lists of HTML5 elements and CSS3 elements?
 
@Chris33 why would you want that?
 
I do have to correct some papers
 
explain more
 
4:47 PM
why do you want to know why I want that? That is not important.
If you can not help then dont bother
 
Explain more meaning we don't understand what you mean
 
It is important because I want to help you solve your actual issue
 
and of course I already told I am new to it. so its good to know more about it
 
css3? elements? ...
 
4:52 PM
CSS doesn't have elements. It has properties which can have one or multiple different values.
btw
 
Aaaaaand it's gone
 
perfect..thanks. I think it will work
 
@TylerH looks like a 404
 
@cimmanon works for me
 
Not for me
It worked, but after refresh twas gone
 
5:00 PM
same
weird
 
@ZachSaucier I got hung up on the GDSE answer but ehhhhh it's a bit uncool to call for downvotes like that. No one likes brigade voting and we already have enough of a problem with the meta effect :|
Link it and let the voters decide for themselves ;)
It's a good thing I don't have an account then...
 
Hmm
Seems like they took it down?
I have it up still so it's workign for me in that tab
 
@BoltClock Fix the god damn survey
 
but going to it again won't work in a new tab
 
(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻
 
Goddamn Ruby developers ruining it again
 
Here's a rough version of the survey I saved from a downloaded .html file
jsfiddle.net/9Lvgxc3p/embedded (click the result tab)
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A: Why does the losing tech graph require scrolling? (2016 Survey)

bluefeetErr, we made a mistake and this was released before it was ready. It's been pulled and we're hoping to have it available next week for actual perusal. Sorry about that!

Booo
 
those are the most fun :-D
already caught that one in the SOCVR room
 
:P
haven't been there in a while
 
or here :'-(
goats got you feelin down?
 
@Kitler One of the posts that you flagged as spam earlier, ho boy what a doozy that one
 
haha yup
he got nuked to oblivion
@TylerH nein senior, I v just been sticking to slack
 
5:33 PM
 
3 slack teams + so chat is too much
 
JS killing it on the backend
 
I identified it as spam 1) irrelevant, spammy link shoehorned at the end of the post 2) text is copied from here (yes a question) with some of the words artificially changed
 
@Kitler 3! that is a lot
 
bots, bots everywhere
how's stuff at your ends?
 
5:34 PM
Good I suppose
went full time at work so I'm making loads more
 
woo
 
but also have to work Fridays now :-P
and come in an hour earlier
 
8-5 or 9-6?
 
8:30 to 5
also I'm not doing web dev anymore :-( I'm an 'applications engineer'
basically I feel like a glorified analyst that does some VBA coding
 
if the money's good can't complain :P
 
5:36 PM
so I'm not really happy with what I'm doing but I need the money and résumé builder so I will stay here probably for two years or so
 
dayum
that's a long time
 
Well, I may leave before two years
 
opportunity to do something you like within the company?
 
none
they're moving away from custom web stuff to off-the-shelf solutions for everything
makes sense b/c they're a hospital so they don't want a bunch of ragtag solutions they have to support
 
5:37 PM
but I'm also oldschool in the sense that I am not the kind of person to move around every 2-5 years
yeah I have that bookmarked from like a year ago :-D
 
hahahah
 
to me 5 years is not really a long time to work for a company
 
why would anyone think this was possible? stackoverflow.com/questions/35923318/…
 
Anyway I went from like 17,000 a year to 48,000 so I'm very happy with that pay increase
 
hey guiz, can i use php functions in ruby?
 
5:39 PM
wow, grats on that
 
it's an entry/junior position so I was expecting like high 30s considering this is georgia
 
thats a nice pay raise
 
@cimmanon I AM SO TEMPTED TO REPWHORE THIS
YOU HAVE NO IDEA
 
my manager opened with "so how do you feel about 36,000" and I was like "well this is my first full-time position so I don't really have good numbers to base that upon but that sounds like it would be around what I was hoping for" and he goes "well, we can't offer you 36,000..." and my heart sank, until he said "but we can offer you 48"
I was like damn you man
 
@BoltClock you repwhore everything :p
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5:41 PM
@TylerH hah. sounds like a cool guy actually
 
he is pretty cool, older though... late 50s I think
pretty high expectations so hopefully that will keep me sharp on what little programming I do get to dive into
 
@TylerH not bad at all
 
i spent 2 years at my first IT job before i got a raise. it was increased by 5k... i left 6 months later for better pay and a boss that wasnt a dickhead. the boss at the first place called me a cunt after i left
 
yikes
though a 5k increase is pretty decent
definitely over 3%
 
for my workload? not really. also, its funny canadian loonies
 
5:45 PM
@cimmanon should have tweeted about it :P
 
I mean, you should be paid a salary commensurate to the work you're doing
 
@Kitler that would require having a twitter account
 
if it's tons of work but easy, that'd probably be less salary than a bit lighter workload but more demanding/experience
 
I take it you aren't watching house of cards
 
and if it was your first IT job I take it you weren't making a ton of money
a 5k raise would be a 10.4% increase for me... 3x the annual CoL increase adjustment
It's kind of sad, really... I'm making 48,000 and I have time to putz around on SO a decent amount and teachers have way more stressful environments but get like 10k a year less
really teachers should be paid twice as much
 
5:48 PM
really depends on the teacher though
 
It does but with higher pay you can attract higher quality teachers and expect more from them
 
how can they live off 10k O.o
 
because there would be a larger applicant pool
@Kitler 10k less
 
ah
 
My sister's been teaching highschool English and Language Arts for 5 years now and she makes in the 30s
just got her Masters degree so that'll go up a fair amount though
 
5:49 PM
who needs english
 
but they get there at like 7:30 in the morning, leave at 5PM, don't get a lunch break, parents who blame them when their kid sucks at something, standards from the state that change at least as often as web standards do, no funds for class supplies, etc. etc.
 
you don't even want to know what kind of people some of the future teachers I know are
 
@GNi33 Oh I know some terrible ones, for sure
 
when a friend of mine came to me and needed to tell me "great news", I was already suspecting it and my head just went "god, please no"
 
in canada, teachers go on strike constantly
 
5:52 PM
sure enough she was telling me she's going into university to become a teacher. I can't have kids, at least not in this country
 
in this state it's illegal for teachers to unionize
@GNi33 My sister gets especially mad at me when I correct her grammar :-P
I'm like "aren't you an English teacher"
 
hehe
I know some great ongoing teachers too, of course
But a lot of people seem to go into the field because they think they'll get a lot of freetime
they don't give a shit about teaching
And that scares me as much as I can't understand this sentiment
 
i had some really good teachers, but i also had a few lousy teachers (american). whenever teachers come up in conversation, my husband has nothing good to say about the vast majority of teachers he had (canadian)
 
yeah some are like "I get two months off every year! And I'll be done at like 3:30 each day!"
I'm all "but you have to deal with 14 year olds and no money"
Or they want to teach because they like little kids "most girls I know who are education majors"
 
how are those two sentences related now?
oooh, now I get it, sorry :D
 
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