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12:03 AM
8.8/10
(Fallout 4 cosplay)
 
@rlemon I bought the hosting provided by cheapnames 9.89 wasn't bad. But, for some reason, I can't connect FileZilla to it
 
you sure there is an ftp server running?
do you need to connect via sftp? (connect to ftp in filezilla on port 22)
 
No, I just keep getting ssh_init host does not exists.. I didn't really need to 'start' anything for the FTP to work when I used GoDaddy so I'm not sure if I'm missing anything.
 
not sure, never hosted with them
 
I'm logged into my cpanel too so I can see all my options
 
12:11 AM
I get domains from them
 
Yeah they're all around cheap it looks like
 
Yeah I tried that earlier no different. I wonder what's wrong
 
12:52 AM
ha, this goes with the earlier post. facebook.com/VancityReynolds/posts/757628274381297:0
 
1:45 AM
@Cereal I am now
 
but is loktar
@Loktar
 
I tried messaging you on BNet, lol.
@Loktar 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
 
on the phone
:/
 
Long situation?
 
maybe 20 more mins max
 
1:48 AM
Rog
 
Good, I'm in a dungeon
 
On?
 
gw2
 
Oh
 
real money transaction simulator 2015
 
1:49 AM
I suppose I should play a bot game or two so I might not suck so bad.
!!s/2015/2016/
 
@Trasiva That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
@Trasiva real money transaction simulator 2016 (source)
 
@Loktar Do you have LoTV? Or just up to HoTS?
 
LoTV
 
Loktar TV?
how do I get that?
 
Legacy of the Void
Last SC-II expansion.
 
1:53 AM
I'd prefer Loktar TV
all Loke, all the time
 
Especially once his Rift gets here.
 
@rlemon it would be boooring lol
 
@Loktar They start shipping in March, yea?
 
Yeah
 
worst group ever
 
1:58 AM
heh, Pornstars Read Mean Comments on youtube
some of them are pretty funny
 
2:13 AM
@Cereal @Trasiva ready whenever
My son from MI called generally I'm never on the phone lol
 
Just on the boss now, few mins
pls
 
Are you sure it's JavaScript chat? )))
 
Okay I'm ready
@Loktar @Trasiva
 
Waiting on you to log in
 
2:40 AM
I got rear ended by a mini van :(
 
That's not a nice thing to call kendall's mom
 
Ello everyone.
The general web dev. chat room seems to have been dead for 3 days, so I'll ask my question here.
I'm in need of an intervention, so I don't completely lose my mind.
 
@SterlingArcher ouch.
Hows your ass ?
 
@Abhishrek Firm and perky
 
@monners I meant after the accident.
 
2:47 AM
Anyone knows how to read this cron job timing "25 */1 * * *"?
 
@Abhishrek Wrecked and bloody
 
taking a mini van in there is a big task !
lol
 
In the words of @KendallFrey
I can go goatse
 
So here it goes,

I've been aspiring to become a web developer for the past three years, I'm currently 20 y/o. I've dabbled with numerous different stacks over the course of this time, but as of recent I just feel so lost.

I've been playing with node.js based stacks ( including SailsJS and the Meteor platform ) for the past couple months. I can prototype apps relatively quickly, but I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would use these technologies over a LAMP stack for more static websites ( not in need of realtime functionality ). To be entirely honest, I find node.js based solutio
 
Anyways... shower time.
 
2:49 AM
I'm just not sure WHAT to focus on.
I don't know what stack to focus on improving my skills with.
 
whatever one you like
 
Make something silly that uses technologies you wouldn't otherwise have a need to use
 
Given there is a chance that node.js based solutions may overshadow PHP/Rails in the impending future -- is it worth continuing on with PHP?
 
@neet_jn
I've came from PHP to Node.js lately and I've written some thoughts on this in my Smashing Magazine article: smashingmagazine.com/2015/11/…
 
man we stomped @Cereal so hard
he was too ez
:P not really. Got spanked.
Good games haha
 
3:02 AM
cough
 
ooooh you saved proof
 
Node.js is more hackish, but it allows me to work pretty-fast, especially when you know what you are doing.
 
lol at least you didnt keep the screenshot of our abysmal APMs
 
match history
 
3:02 AM
seriously cool sword tutorial
 
it's saved forever
 
boooo :p
haha oh I know but people here don't ever look at it
 
user2620028
is that starcraft?
 
god dude I got capped even
was so embarrasing
 
user2620028
looks like starcraft colors and icons
 
3:03 AM
yeah @HatterisMad
 
user2620028
i loved starcraft but was so horrible at it haha
 
\o/
 
user2620028
is that good?
 
D=
 
@neet_jn I'm not using Sails anymore btw, I've created my own minimallistic framework on top of Restify and it works amazing for us.
 
user2620028
3:04 AM
i didnt play sc2 long enough to even get ranked iirc
 
user2620028
i bought sc2 and then didnt have time to play :(
 
I think I'm ranked 270th na
or so
 
user2620028
oh wow nice
 
@SlavaFominII Thanks for the input.
 
@neet_jn I will try to dedicate another article on this when I'll have a free time )
 
3:08 AM
Just found a promising sails boilerplate, going to dabble a bit more and work towards developing better development practices.
 
@neet_jn I've disappointed in Sails actually. Waterline is terrible, I don't know why are they shipping it with Sails when there is Sequelize.
@neet_jn And I'm splitting my app into fully-independent backend and frontend so my server is just a REST application. I don't need view, assets pipeline and such. Restify is much better suited for the job actually and it's not that hard to implement anything you need on top of it.
 
On that note -
What are your thoughts on REST vs Sockets
Also, do you have any prior experience using KeystoneJS?
 
@neet_jn never worked with Keystone and never used Sockets actually. However I think the idea of using single bi-directional connection is great, especially when all my apps is SPAs these days.
Actually I don't really like full-fledged frameworks, most of the time they are very opinionated, has a lot of features, that you don't need and it's extremely hard to do something when you need flexibility.
Right now I have full control over my application and I personally selected all the modules for it. It's absolutely flexible and opinionated in the way I like it ;)
 
4:04 AM
@rlemon may I join the JavaScript team?
 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Lemony-Andrew
 
haha sorry
 
why did that code block?
 
What code block?
 
4:06 AM
@Lemony-Andrew here?
watching?
 
@rlemon Sorry, I'm lost. What do you mean?
 
@Lemony-Andrew click this and confirm when you do please
 
Ahh okay. This is the first time I've ever seen anything about "teams". Do I actually belong to the team? I just wanted to join because I love JavaScript, and I do a lot in it.
 
as far as I know, they mean nothing
!!afk bed
 
Haha alright. Glad I could be appart of it though. See ya later!
@SterlingArcher are you sorry? Are you the one who's sorry the server is down on your game?
 
4:14 AM
@Lemony-Andrew that's the plot twist: I'm really not sorry
 
@SterlingArcher Oh man, right in the feels ..
 
lol server is running now
 
got it
@SterlingArcher trying to "play" responds: Cannot GET /join.
 
Doesn't exist yet :P
 
Haha gotcha. Wanna see my game?
 
4:19 AM
Sure man
 
Got a gitter account I can message it to you on?
 
I do not lol
 
Twitter?
 
Recently deleted :P
 
The game's under construction so I'm trying to keep the link less public. Anyway I can send it to you without it being public haha
 
4:21 AM
open sauce brah
 
Ahh too bad haha. It was originally open-source but I ended up making it closed source. I wanted to monetize it in the future
 
5:16 AM
errm, private chat room?
 
Put the link to an unlisted pastebin that expires in 10 min. I think you may be able to delete it as soon as you are done, too.
 
 
2 hours later…
@AwalGarg old news
also microsoft is an industrial level troll
 
@Abhishrek It was opensourced like 10 hours ago
 
Ben Fortune posted that about a few hours ago
 
stupid ben can't even wait for me to post it
 
@MadaraUchiha: So far, there's been an unanimous vote to close that collection question. (Well, +22/-1)
The answer saying it should stay is at -9/+1
 
7:26 AM
@Cerbrus +23/-1
I just got into the office
Interesting to see the similar PHP meta thread though
 
7:45 AM
hello
 
user3119231
Morning
 
Sucks having to parse all that CoffeeScript only to see "Edit: Solved, I had a syntax error"
 
user3119231
THen he should mark his question as solved :D
 
No, OP should delete it
 
user3119231
^
 
7:54 AM
but next best is getting it closed so people don't accidentally look at it
 
user3119231
Its a weird question. At least he should include a tag like '[solved]' in the header
 
user3119231
@Cerbrus it is +26
 
hey anyone knows some good tutorial on how to upload angular js projects on apache web server??
 
@bittu Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user3119231
@bittu you mean like FTP it up in the space?
 
8:04 AM
no i mean like configuring the angular js project for apache rather than node.js
 
user3119231
I ever thought that you have an index.html file in every js framework.
 
ya but i am having problem when refreshing the browser page with html 5 mode enabled on route
so any suggestion for htacess or anything
 
user3119231
 
user3119231
Don't get me wrong - I don't know AngularJS very well. Just trying to help you a bit :)
 
@Maurize That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
STOP
HAMMERTIME!
 
user3119231
8:10 AM
nvm
 
Oh, I just had an answer "edited" (in fact rewritten in full) by Paul Irish. I'll assume it's good then...
 
@Maurize I meant the "get rid of it" answer
 
user3119231
@Cerbrus my mistake, buddy.
 
8:29 AM
@FlorianMargaine The more I keep reading the more I see how much more powerful CL is compared to most languages today. But I can also see why it hadn't caught on.
It's super abstract and kind of all over the place. You're bombarded with capabilities and flexibilities, and it can be overwhelming. Mastering them all though...
(I'm now in conditionals and restarts btw)
 
I am confused....
var which = {},
    max = 10000;

for( var i = 0; i < max; ++i ){

    var square = ( i*i ) & 31;

    if( !which[ square ] )
        which[ square ] = 0;

    ++which[ square ];
} which;

Object {0: 1250, 1: 1250, 4: 2500, 9: 1250, 16: 1250, 17: 1250, 25: 1250}
 
Not quite jsperf....
 
"Infinity" ?
 
is there a way to prove that the 5 least significant bits of any square represent either 0,1,4,9,16,17,25 in decimal?
Also, what's up with that 17??
 
!!>Math.pow(1.2, 2)
 
8:33 AM
@Cerbrus 1.44
 
!!> 31..toString(2)
 
@DenysSéguret "11111"
 
@BenFortune maybe the compiler saw that numberValue was a constant and was able to say that it needs no calculations during runtime because they're even of the same type
so it just precalculated the value at compile-time
 
@towc probably
(I'm not smart enough. And not awaken enough anyway)
 
8:35 AM
var stringValue = "1000";
var numberValue = 1000;
 
user3119231
@towc I remember we had a similiar function in school... Long long ago. They key to solve this function was % 2 :D # I remember -> Binary
 
@BenFortune and strings are arrays pointing to other points in the data, so calculations still need to be done
 
Ran it again, works now for some reason
 
@MadaraUchiha hehe
 
@Maurize -_-
I was trying to understand how this code works: codepad.org/wj405QWn
#include <stdio.h>

int isSquare(unsigned long long n) {
    static char q11[11] = {1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0};
    static char q63[63] = {1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0};
    static char q64[64] = {1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0};
because it does and it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen
other than kendall's mom
 
8:40 AM
 
well, I was trying to solve it using JS
also, that's not the way to use cv-plz :P And we're always off-topic here anyway
I mean, I can re-write that in JS if that makes you happier, but the problem is still the same
 
Just a silly joke. Don't worry, be happeh.
 
user3119231
!!youtube Don't worry be happy
 
in PHP, 21 hours ago, by Wes
@PeeHaa done http://i.imgur.com/XZxNhfr.gif
 
user3119231
8:51 AM
Is someone good in creating logos? I just need one for my project... :>
 
user3119231
And everything I create with photoshop looks like waste of RAM
 
Real designers use paint
 
user3119231
Of course they do, of course.
 
@Cerbrus As in, actualy, physical paint
 
user3119231
Should be a simple logo for a platform where my classmates can meet. Named "Groupster"
 
8:53 AM
Bob Ross is pretty much the ultimate designer
He'll make you a happy little logo, @Maurize.
 
user3119231
 
user3119231
You see da ugly?
 
I see.
A white text area...
Gawd
 
user3119231
hm? No no, buddy. It is the logo :D
 
@Maurize Love that footer :D
 
8:55 AM
I don't think it's that ugly, actually
 
passwort
insert the wart of pass
 
user3119231
yup, is for german class.
 
user3119231
thanks for feedback.
 
user3119231
This project I will (rather "try") dynamic styles...
 
@Cerbrus And real programmers use Notepad.
 
user3119231
9:00 AM
Muhahaha, Rep whoring at it's finest: german.stackexchange.com/a/27636/19897
 
I have cloned a repo a branch for Github rep few days ago...What is command to see the changes made to the branch? Pretty much update the files that are changed
?
 
@AbhimanyuAryan google "how to use git"
 
Hello
 
git fetch origin master
git diff origin/master
 
is it possible to call MODEL function from view in javascript?
 
9:02 AM
@MuneemHabib What do you mean by a model function?
 
Thanks awal. I needed the second one
 
MVC Model
 
lol what is mvc model function
 
@nightingalez Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
like whats that
 
9:03 AM
That doesn't give us much to work with. You can design your own MVC model many ways. The question is as good as "how to call a function from some code".
 
@MuneemHabib Is this a ASP.NET MVC model by chance? Then no. Absolutely not.
 
user3119231
Man, maybe it is useful for some of you: onlinelogomaker.com/applet/logomaker
 
no i am using kohana framework
 
That is better. But sorry, never heard of it, both as a JSer and as a PHPer. You may have better luck trying Google or the main SO site.
 
Not sure about kohana, but it do sounds like naruto. Anyways. Usually you can't access PHP model functions through front-end javascript. The only thing I did so was to assign php variables to javascript variables through html files something like this <script> var hello = "<?php echo "its me"; ?> </script>
 
user3119231
9:11 AM
Man you can do this in normal js.
 
!!tell Sheepy xkcd emacs
 
user3119231
var iDontKnowaShit = "<?php echo("yes, sure"); ?>";
 
@Maurize Lame. Just go to dafont.com/de/theme.php?cat=501&text=Groupster and browse until you find something nice
 
user3119231
9:12 AM
yes
 
user3119231
@OliverSalzburg thanks! :
 
come'on bro, dont use kohana, use full stack javascript.
 
@Cerbrus Damit, emacs >_<
 
is this laggy for anyone? http://codepen.io/towc/pen/dGzqmZ
Also, thoughts? :D
(yup, completely useless, not going to deny it)
 
@towc Not at all
 
9:14 AM
Smooth enough for my Firefox.
 
user3119231
@nightingalez huh? If you want to dynamically access php just use http reques
 
@towc Runs fine
 
perfect for someone who came too fast
 
cool, thanks
 
@Maurize .. ok i get what he means now.
 
user3119231
9:16 AM
no need for frameworks. vanilla js is more powerful than any framework.
 
@Maurize Also, just steal the Ubuntu logo. It fits the purpose ;P
 
false praising to get things done


there is a single word for it in english


anyone ?


sweet talk ?
 
What? Isn't vanilla js a framework? vanilla-js.com It handles all my events and call my event handler, it even has CSS selection engine and database(s)!
 
user3119231
psst sheepy. Nobody needs to know that vanilla is a framework made from jquery.
 
@Mathematics flattery
 
9:19 AM
@Maurize no, vanilla is made of angularjs - get your facts RIGHT
@BenFortune thanks
 
user3119231
@Mathematics excuse me. I will right start learning original js - angularjs
 
@towc Not laggy at all, but I do have an suggestion:
 
Reset the speed of particles that leave the circle, before respawning them
 
user3119231
vanilla-js.com is a bit old, huh? I mean I would use querySelector instead of getElementById... nvm
 
9:20 AM
@Cerbrus it's already happening
oh wait it isn't
 
Can we change the name of this room to "Vanilla"
 
uploaded an older version
 
Ah :P
 
user3119231
Someone change the room's name to Vanilla Javascript, please.
 
@Maurize I think it intended to be compatible with old IE. Besides, when I measured it two years ago, querySelector is a bit slower.
 
9:22 AM
That version, if you put your cursor at the edge of the circle, the particles will just move faster and faster
 
user3119231
@Sheepy might be a bit slower, but much more functional.
 
Teleporting to the mouse and beyond, eventually :P
 
@nightingalez @Maurize people talk a lot about non-vanilla stuff here
 
@Maurize True. I prefer it too :)
 
like node
@Cerbrus yeah, it's kinda fun to play around with ;)
 
user3119231
9:23 AM
@towc this was not seriously meant.
 
Aye
 
I'll leave it like that for the demo
 
@Sheepy But old IE is dead.
 
@towc we are just 'foo'-ling around
 
Personally I am not against frameworks. But don't expect us to know your framework...
 
9:23 AM
@nightingalez I've never seen you around here, can't be sure
 
@towc
oops, new guy here
 
@BenFortune Dead in the sense that they are unsupported. Not dead in the sense that they still kicking around at... let me see... 3% market share. Compare that with current stable Firefox at ... 2.2%.
 
It's fun how the particles have inertia. When they're going that fast, it takes some effort to make them change direction.
 
user3119231
 
user3119231
fine, making some (more or less) progress.
 
9:32 AM
sigh I told my dear that I need a new computer. It only had 4GB ram, video editing is slow. Graphic card fan is failing. Then I digged up some old RAM and was given a can of WD40.
 
i bought 8 gb more the other day
and a gtx 970 :P
 
Got any spare graphic card that you no longer need? I can recycle them for you :D
Whenever I consider that (components for) a new computer will be worth two le creuset casseroles but has much shorter life span, I feel depressed.
 
970 master race
Got mine OC'd to 980 speeds and under water :P
 
I considered water cooling. But I head that it has relatively high maintenance and risk verse cooler. Do you need to regularly replace the coolant?
 
Nope, once a year or so.
My friend has had the same loop and coolant running for 3 years with no problems
The only downside is the price.
 
9:48 AM
Hmm. Good point. Buy a water cooling kit, or buy a faster card that at the same time produce less heat. Not a difficult choice when home space is at a premium.
 
I had a gtx 550
 
Come to think of it, I have never leave the main computer alone for over a year.
 
user3119231
Does html5 offers a <select> for dates?
 
user3119231
I'm too lazy to add all dates
 
Kind of. HTML5 has <input type=date>. Some browsers offer a date picker. Some don't.
 
user3119231
9:58 AM
hm, I will rather do this with php
 
10:10 AM
@Maurize You must be a masochist then.
 
user3119231
Why?
 
@Maurize just use a textbox and force the user to type in YYYY-MM-DD format
 
Well, PHP, surely more needn't be said?
 
user3119231
I could even do this in js. There will be no difference at all.
 
php is serverside code
you shouldn't prefer php at all if you can do it in javascript
 
user3119231
10:24 AM
because javascript is good script, right?
 
no, because you're having to talk to the server for no reason, which doesn't scale well
 
hey guys I have a jsfiddle I dont understand why 3 ajax get requests are made on datepicker change jsfiddle.net/Gotalove/gtqm0f10 .Some help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks
 
Use php to validate the input. Nothing more than that.
 
user3119231
10:54 AM
hmm, I don't know...
 
user3119231
 
user3119231
May be the design be with me.
 
I don't dig the colour
 

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