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JAL
3:02 PM
^handled, can be moved to the graveyard
 
3:12 PM
@JAL you win..
 
JAL
the post was deleted
 
@JAL I know, just want to say them.
 
@KevinGuan It got JALsniped
 
JAL
oh ha
lol
you can have the next one
 
@JAL Hmm...we need add a new feature, about who is the most times said deleted to Smoke.
 
JAL
3:15 PM
@KevinGuan You could open an issue as a request for an enhancement: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector
 
@JAL :D
 
3:28 PM
Why aren't there actually "vote audits" and just do it like "review audits", place some VLQ posts on the page and if you upvote them: "STOP! Listen..." ?
 
So that people stop upvoting crap.
 
Okay I'll go to bed, night!
 
Later
 
JAL
night
 
3:29 PM
@rene How many messages do you scan to get that many move?
 
JAL
@rene that's impressive
 
@Rizier123 That would be interesting. What would be the consequences?
 
inb4 TylerH says hi
 
@NathanOliver For sure a BIG RED BOX :) Saying why you shouldn't do that and what happens if you still do it. (And maybe if you fail like 10-20 audits you can't vote for a day or so). Idk was just a random idea in my head.
 
Really wish we had a moderator who was specifically in charge of checking/reversing serial downvoting
 
JAL
lol
 
@NathanOliver 100 at a time but I adapted the script to load 200 pages of the transcript.
 
@gunr2171 I just wanted to post that :D
 
JAL
@TylerH Are you getting targeted? I had a similar issue and it was handled rather quickly. @JonClements may also be able to help.
and the user was suspended for 4 months
 
3:33 PM
@rene ah. That would explain it.
 
@gunr2171 But I heard that the user isn't very chatty.
 
JAL
> Community♦ Keeping a low profile.
 
@JAL yes I'm pretty sure
@gunr2171 I mean a real person
 
:P
 
@gunr2171 So do anyone notice that his user id is -1?
 
3:35 PM
@JAL The question I asked on Monday and answered by BoltClock was downvoted today
 
@TylerH it's not really needed... the system will auto-reverse... if you have genuine concerns about it - flag your own post with other and ask it to be looked in to... note though that mods aren't privy to individual votes
 
@JonClements this isn't enough to be caught by the filters
 
@KevinGuan that's intentional. "Feeds" is -2
 
@NathanOliver when the scripts run I can't open the close vote dialog though.... you are only allowed to load the box every 3 seconds
 
and I have flagged for moderator attention already btw
and I'm aware mods aren't privy, that requires a db check, hence my "I wish there were a moderator specifically for this" dream
 
JAL
3:36 PM
Hmm, I can't see who handled my issue. Can other mods see who suspended a user? stackoverflow.com/users/573032/roman-c
 
Ahh okay - I see it - that was just 5 mins ago - so be patient I guess
 
@rene That is the same for the unmodified version I am running. Would you mind sharing yours?
 
@JonClements well the main flag I raised about 1.5 weeks ago
 
@gunr2171 But -2 is 404.
 
@JAL yes - but that information isn't public
 
initial flag was raised on this answer stackoverflow.com/questions/33578003/…
 
Feeds is only a chat user
 
JAL
@JonClements Got it, thanks
 
@JAL exact details of why, for how long, and steps leading up to it aren't disclosed unless someone wants to blog about it or otherwise bring it up
 
How how much red text to you see Jon reminding you "don't talk about this"?
 
3:38 PM
@gunr2171 Wow, we also have -3, -4, -5 and -6...but only chat user.
 
JAL
@JonClements So I know why that user was suspended, they were revenge downvoting me. I was hoping that if that mod does a lot of revenge downvoting investigation, they could help Tyler. That's all
 
@JAL Thanks for the sentiments, though I'm fairly certain mods don't specialize in any type of flag handling
there are too many (flags) for them to have that luxury
 
@NathanOliver I copied it here
 
@TylerH If I was a mod, I would specialize in green flags.
 
@TylerH that's about right - although we can organise/filter the queue, generally the queue is ordered by priority first, and we just keep chipping away as it were
 
JAL
3:41 PM
makes sense
 
@gunr2171 oh you
 
@rene Thanks.
 
@TylerH or Vexillology
 
@NathanOliver it can use a code-review ...
 
@gunr2171 there's a lot of warnings - I've almost made the mistake of screen shotting something and posting it, then thankfully caught it last minute, as the user profile view mods have is quite different than the non-mod view etc...
 
3:42 PM
Hmm...
@Closey stats
 
9,324 need review
1,571 reviews today
2,932,293 reviews all-time
 
@rene That would require me to learn JS ;) I am working on that though so I can contribute more.
 
@JonClements ah, just curious, thanks.
afk again
 
9,324 need review. When we can clear the CVQ?
 
@KevinGuan soon™
2
 
3:43 PM
lol
 
@gunr2171 :P
 
JAL
> When will then be now? Soon.
 
My concern isn't so much about loss of rep, -2 or -4 here or there isn't the most difficult thing to beat, it's just that my questions are all being downvoted (& some answers) over a spread out period which shows someone with patience and malicious intent who is probably going to keep going until an SO staff member checks IPs/accounts. If it weren't for the generosity of strangers just now I'd be practically on the edge of a question ban just because someone's pissed off at me for some reason
 
Is this a good place to ask whether a question is close-worthy? I don't see a general moderation chat room anywhere.
 
@TylerH question bans don't work like that - so your fear is unwarranted
 
3:45 PM
@ColonelThirtyTwo sure
 
@ColonelThirtyTwo this is a great place for that, though we can only give you our opinions
@JonClements 100% of your questions having negative score doesn't give you a ban?
 
Ok. I found this question a day ago. It seems on-topic (but poor), but people seem to have closed it with a weak custom reason. stackoverflow.com/questions/33786799/…
 
well, 75%
one of my questions has a score of 7
 
@ColonelThirtyTwo I say it is close worthy as the answers to that question are already around on the internet. It shows a lack of research and effort.
 
@Nathan From my understanding, those are downvote reasons though, not close reasons
 
3:50 PM
@SmokeDetector Spam or edit out the link?
 
@NathanOliver I think it's spam...
 
JAL
i'm voting unclear
 
The user does have an actual upvoted answer so that is why I ask
 
@NathanOliver Or very very bad question...actually not a question.
 
@ColonelThirtyTwo there is no real question being asked here, though. "does X work?" isnt a very productive question when X does in fact work.
 
JAL
3:51 PM
i don't think it's spam, that user has another valid question
 
@TylerH nope - it's a complicated algorithm... you're basically worrying unnecessarily like I said :)
 
@JonClements well alright then; I still hate to see my questions and answers being targeted though :-P
 
JAL
aaaannd someone upvoted
 
@JAL Ah...that point...@JonClements any ideas?
 
@KevinGuan aren't you normally sleeping at this time? :p
 
3:54 PM
@TimCastelijns Well, I said I'll go to bed...no problem, still not sleepy :P
But 23:52 now
 
Nice find @TylerH
 
JAL
I wish I was in bed, but I't only 10:54 AM...
 
@NathanOliver Just one-upped myself
 
@TylerH I've cleared your flag and put a message in it - please take a look.
 
@JAL I know that feeling
 
3:54 PM
@JonClements OK, will do
 
@JAL this is my life 24/7
(Yes, I'm stuck in a time warp)
 
@TylerH I thought I saw you in here: youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60
 
Okay, really go to sleep now.
 
4:21 PM
stackoverflow.com/q/33808844/3933332 lol he just copy&paste the own title into google and copied the code from the first result.
 
JAL
^ that question has been closed
 
OK so I was removed 10 of rep because of "User was removed". That's fine, but I can't win them back
=(
 
@Tunaki Not trusted anymore?
 
JAL
I've had that happen to me
 
@Kyll still trusted :)
 
4:32 PM
@Tunaki Hold on, deleting more sock puppets
=p
 
but it seems the maximum is now 190 of rep
and not 200
 
@Am_I_Helpful Why did you vote it as a duplicate if it is a typo?
 
I like the e dots => 2.71 dots joke
 
@TylerH I seriously do no see what you see about serial downvoting against your account. I did look into it briefly from my blind angle a day or two ago. those are like 4 to 5 votes and maybe one of your answers was bad, a guy got ticked off, did it again another day. that is not a bad pattern at this moment
 
5:09 PM
 
@NathanOliver Earlier I voted as duplicate, now it is both duplicate and can't reproduce, since OP's answer was resolved through the past duplicate question's answer. You should still consider it a duplicate.
hello everybody.
 
Anyone have a keyboard shortcut script for the CV queue?
If not, I'm going to build myself one.
 
This is a responsible Am_I_Helpful here...
@Undo That's why you deserve to be a moderator!
 
@Undo It is not a keyboard shortcut but there is a checkbox in the close vote screen to send a cv request when you vote to close. github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/…
 
@Undo yes there is one out there
I don't use it though so I'm not sure where it is
@gunr2171 probably knows
@NathanOliver I think he means while in the CV review queue
 
5:12 PM
yes, there is one
hold a moment
 
I just built one for LQP, hoping not to have to do it for CV
 
But it's kinda fun so meh
 
Oh. Oops. Ignore me.
 
@Undo why don't you just go work at SO
 
5:13 PM
@gunr2171 Wonderful, the little vibrator thing in my trackpad thanks you
 
bring us all the tools we want \o/
 
...your welcome?
 
@Undo TMI
 
@TylerH Because they won't hire 16 year olds :(
 
details details
if Captain America can fudge his age then so can you
 
5:14 PM
@gunr2171 Heh. I have one of those fancy new external Apple trackpads that doesn't actually move
It's actually a little creepy
 
Speaking of Apple, take a look at this brilliance of design:
 
@TylerH That's an oversight, but the new keyboard and trackpad are top notch :P
 
Sometimes I miss Steve Jobs.
 
I see a cable. How is that a good design
 
@gunr2171 Is this documented anywhere?
 
5:18 PM
hahhahahahahah
that's funny
but what do you mean by documented? Where it exists or how to use it?
 
@gunr2171 How to use it :P
 
writen down, no
but if you go into the CV queue it should be obvious
hopefully
 
Oops, forgot to give it access
(Using Safari, so user scripting is a little different)
 
@user3100115 as for re-open can you refute the close reason in comments under question? Nice Answer btw
 
There I got it working
 
JAL
5:23 PM
Yet another POB question with a bounty... stackoverflow.com/q/32542846/2415822
 
that avatar....
 
JAL
Isn't that Martijn Peters' avatar?
 
yep
 
even still seems like a dang good POB answer
 
though you can't prove who used it first
 
5:26 PM
@JAL That's why I don't really bother going after bounty questions; Every time I do, I come across too many that are off-topic, and then I remember why I stopped last time. -.-
 
JAL
@Siguza yep, it's a pain to see those sometimes
there was a really bad one recently about "where do i report google bugs" with a 500 point bounty
 
This keyboard shortcut thing is awesome
 
@JAL there are some differences
 
Now all I need is a diamond so I can sit down and do a couple hundred at a time
 
Martin's is brown and furry and has monster teeth
 
5:30 PM
This is not what I wanted to see when checking the weather:
> ... WINTER STORM WATCH NOW IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY AFTERNOON...
 
@Undo "oversight" sure :-P
 
@TylerH I mean I doubt they wanted to put it there
 
Well depends on who "they" is
design team definitely did want to put it there
engineering definitely didnt
don't know why they don't just put a wireless charging pad inside the magic mouse pad or whatever
 
@TylerH That would be cool. a mouse pad that is a wireless mouse charger.
 
passed javascript audit
@Closey starting
 
5:36 PM
@Undo May the Vote be with you!
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 6 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@Undo Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@Undo Your last completed review session ended 6 seconds ago and lasted 1 minute and 32 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 2 seconds.
 
hah
I only did around five
 
5:39 PM
Dat robo-reviewing
 
JAL
@Kyll need your "please don't answer bad questions" text here: stackoverflow.com/q/33810525/2415822
Undo is a pro
 
@JAL Actually, I kinda cheat
 
JAL
shhhh!!!
don't reveal your secret
 
I filter by off-topic, then skip through looking for tool req ones.
 
JAL
smart
 
5:40 PM
If SEDE is fresh, I'll get review links from there.
 
JAL
love it, thanks @Kyll
 
@JAL I love saying "Thank you for contributing to Stack Overflow" to guys who have 10 times my rep hahaha
 
@JAL Closed.
 
JAL
ty
 
@Drew Yes but I just realised the second option I gave in my answer is what the asker is looking for .
 
5:48 PM
Voted
 
@Undo We are no longer responding to cv request unless we are talking about them. They will get removed once they are closed and one of the RO's runs the move script.
 
Sounds like a good plan, thanks
 
No problem. Are you getting excited for the election?
 
@Undo And in the end it's just weird to have "voted" in the middle of all conversations =p
 
@NathanOliver I'm always excited for elections ;)
But this is the first one where I have half a chance at winning
It's a little surreal, actually
 
5:52 PM
If you get voted in you will have to change your avatar to some sort of ninja.
 
If you win, we'd be forced to be so honest with you..
2
 
lol
 
the word is when
 
@NathanOliver Currently accepting avatar proposals.
 
JAL
@Kyll the secret that this room is just a front for TF2-related discussion is already out
 
5:54 PM
lol
 
This is my old dog, which is the only picture of one of my dogs that actually looks like a dog at 32px
 
@JAL Yes, but they're not onto our hat dealing mafia
 
JAL
shhh!!!!!
 
The current dog is a fluffy black cloud
 
Which is just a cover for our bot factories
 
JAL
5:55 PM
shhhhhh!
dammit Kyll
 
@Undo I bet gunr could make it a ninja face. to bad he is actually working today
 
@Undo We've got enough of one canine moderator already anyway
 
@Kyll That's true. Maybe I need to acquire a cat.
 
@JAL That's but the tip of the iceberg!
 
JAL
Are "does an API exist for this" off-topic (off-site resource)? stackoverflow.com/q/30124046/2415822
 
6:05 PM
@JAL I would think so
Ummm
 
Built-in on mobile apps have always been borderline
 
JAL
that's spam
 
They're pretty much always on-topic, except answers turn quickly to tool recs
 
JAL
hmm
 
Any java bros with dupe hammer here?
bros/sistas so as not to offend anyone
 
6:12 PM
Can't we just do a normal dupe instead of requesting a mjolnir?
 
JAL
@Tunaki I think has a gold badge in Java
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Don't think so, but probably enough people to close it anyway
 
JAL
What's the question in question?
(lol)
 
Hi - anything exciting today?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis bros/sistas/squirrels/ninja dogs
 
6:13 PM
I voted to close as a dupe of an NPE. They updated. Now it's a duplicate of something else.
I don't want to reopen directly. I want reopen/reclose.
 
@gunr2171 And bots.
 
JAL
nope nothing at all, nothing strange going on here @Mogsdad
no underground hat trading at all
 
out for lunch
 
That would be strange.
 
Are you sure it shouldn't be rolled back then?
 
6:14 PM
@gunr2171 Careful - "hipster" was discussed as "offensive" on meta today. "bro" seems worse.
 
@Mogsdad not really.
 
This was the question. This is current duplicate if you guys know about Java/Gson.
guys/gals
 
Well, then... I guess I'll run the cv queue!
 
I've voted to dupe it, need 4 more.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis guys is the correct term to use when addressing a group. It is both masculine and feminine.
 
6:17 PM
@NathanOliver I prefer humanoids.
@SotiriosDelimanolis dupe done
 
@DavidG That does not include ninja puppies though ;)
 
Thanks, group!
 
nice java #'s @SotiriosDelimanolis
 
Is last sd fp?
 
6:23 PM
No, looks like spam to me
 
Nope. Spam
 
it is spam
 
@JAL yes what for?
I so bad want to dupehammer something :)
 
JAL
@SotiriosDelimanolis was asking for a dupehammer on some java question
 
6:32 PM
Oh, by the way @SotiriosDelimanolis, if you're around, what do you think of this one
 
@PaulRoub did not know about that, thanks for the heads up
 
@gunr2171 I was being 99% sarcastic.
 
I closed it as dupe, it was reopened. I still think it is a dupe.
 
oh
 
@Closey starting
 
6:34 PM
@Mogsdad Good luck!
 
JAL
haha beat you all :P
 
Yeah but I give a link
 
JAL
question was removed
 
@Kyll in an edit
 
@Tunaki Prove it :-° My edit was for a typo! =p
 
6:45 PM
:)
 
passed php audit
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[google-apps-script] [google-spreadsheet]"
 
Ugh. That comment from the 29k user. Wtf.
 
I think he had time on his hands this afternoon. Wanted to get involved
 
@Tunaki I probably would've left it closed. Maybe found another duplicate for variable shadowing.
(I have no votes now.)
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[google-docs] [google-drive-sdk]"
 
6:50 PM
Or maybe I'm not looking at it right.
I don't know why AbstractListModel would pass null downstream.
OR whatever event queue, no good with swing.
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[google-api] [google-apps]"
You have no more close votes today; come back in 5 hours.
 
@Mogsdad The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
 
@closey last session edit count 38
 
Review item count has been changed:
User: Mogsdad (1677912)
Start Time: 2015-11-19 18:34:59 UTC
End Time: 2015-11-19 18:55:40 UTC
Items Reviewed: [Not Set] -> 38
Use the command 'last session stats' to see more details.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis That's the thing, I don't think it has anything to do with Swing at all
 
7:09 PM
BTW the flag from yesterday about the spam the the mod deleted while I was flagging did get marked as helpful.
 
7:21 PM
@Am_I_Helpful I am not sure about that
 
afk for a bit, I invited a user to chat in case he comes by.
 
Sam
7:49 PM
@gunr You'll be pleased to know my new mic should be arriving tomorrow. :p
 
:D
my ears will thank you
 
time for harassment in TF2!
 
and we can finish portal 2
 
JAL
rip headphone users
 
Sam
xD
 
7:50 PM
@TylerH you haven't joined us in tf2 yet!
 
@gunr2171 I haven't played TF2 in years
 
sounds like you need to get back into it, after you download the 15gb updates
because Source Engine game
 
Does anybody have a question where they switched the accepted answer?
 
our own question?
 
JAL
aaaand I hit the daily rep limit
Yes I do @rene
 
@TylerH The outcome of my query here is wrong but I need evidence to find the root cause
 
Nope. I do have a question that I don't know if I should delete, wait for a answer or self answer now.
 
JAL
oh Tyler beat me
 
I did't ask for one-boxes...
 
7:57 PM
@JAL report domestic abuse
 
tnx all
 
JAL
lol
hey un un-boxed my one-box ok @rene?
i get one a day
 
I mean, you asked for post links. That one-boxes by default.
 
one-box all the things!
^ just for you, Rene :)
hahaha
 
@gunr2171 yeah, what he said!
 
JAL
7:59 PM
the crowd screams
ONE-BOX! ONE-BOX!
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@JAL nah that's just pix
 
Oh....all of you...
 
JAL
or youtube vids
 

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